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[Report] PCB probing inaction by team managers over Shaheen Shah Afridi's misconduct

Rana said:
100%

He’s a human being. Not a robot. He was humiliated for no reason!
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Rohit was pulled out as captain from Mumbai Indians and he didn't underperform in last IPL and he played his part which is normal, and similarly Pandya was asked to play under Rohit immediately after IPL for the recent WC T20. In fact, Pandya was one of the heroes in the last WC. He didn't sabotage the game. You cannot show your humiliation in the game, you can rather show it on your management and selectors, but not on sabotaging the chances of the nation winning the matches. If Shaheen has done it deliberately and if it is proved, he should be punished.
 
Guys these are not movie characters don't paint them in such a negative light.
 
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FearlessRoar said:
You can't blame Shaheen for it, it's insulting to sack him as captain after just one series
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who came first? egg or chicken? Shaheen backstabbed Babar and accepted captaincy when babar was forced to resign by Zaka Ashraf. that was also insulting. Shaheen used to tweet that babar is their red line lol
 
What a circus!

Neither Shaheen or Babar should ever be made captain or vice captain ever again.

Safest bet is to give it to Rizwan.
 
gazza619 said:
What a circus!

Neither Shaheen or Babar should ever be made captain or vice captain ever again.

Safest bet is to give it to Rizwan.
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its very funny you know . these guys come from very humble background. specially Shaheen who lived in poverty in KPK region. and when these guys get fame and money , they are not mentally equipped to handle it. 90% of these players are mental midgets.
 
cricketmania22 said:
Throughout the T20 World Cup he kept bowling full-tosses. According to some reports, the coach asked him to bowl back of length deliveries on those pitches but SSA gave him a shut up call. And now we are hearing about his behavioral issues as well. I think he didn’t try his best, in other words, it was deliberate. He should be held accountable.
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So, should we believe a report and disregard records that are right before us? It appears that there is a diversionary tactic being used to defend Babar and generate sympathy for him. Oh, look at how our King has been betrayed!
 
Adiram said:
Rohit was pulled out as captain from Mumbai Indians and he didn't underperform in last IPL and he played his part which is normal, and similarly Pandya was asked to play under Rohit immediately after IPL for the recent WC T20. In fact, Pandya was one of the heroes in the last WC. He didn't sabotage the game. You cannot show your humiliation in the game, you can rather show it on your management and selectors, but not on sabotaging the chances of the nation winning the matches. If Shaheen has done it deliberately and if it is proved, he should be punished.
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Where's the proof that Shaheen deliberately underperformed? Records say that he recirved 4 player of the match awards in the 6 matches win by Pak since Babar's reappointment as the captain. This is just a diversionary tactic being used to defend Babar and generate sympathy for him.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
its very funny you know . these guys come from very humble background. specially Shaheen who lived in poverty in KPK region. and when these guys get fame and money , they are not mentally equipped to handle it. 90% of these players are mental midgets.
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To be perfectly honest I don’t think that the current situation has got anything to do with the player’s background. You back stab a highly intellectual rich individual from an educated background, they may also act erratically. Many people can stand injustice.
 
gazza619 said:
To be perfectly honest I don’t think that the current situation has got anything to do with the player’s background. You back stab a highly intellectual rich individual from an educated background, they may also act erratically. Many people can stand injustice.
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point is not backstabbing. point is these guys cant handle the fame and money when their fortunes turn around. lot of it has to do with mental strength and upbringing. look at Pandya.. he also came from humble background but when fortune turned around for him , he was mentally equipped to deal with it despite facing similar problems of backstabbing and all
 
Rana said:
100%

He’s a human being. Not a robot. He was humiliated for no reason!
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Agree. However, I have to say that Shaheen should be professional and give his 100% in the match and deal with the politics off the field. After all these players all the time claim they can do anything for Pakistan all the time, not just when convenient for them.

This is not to say he was deliberately underperforming as I have no proof or anything. I am just saying in general.
 
aukhan said:
There is no doubt that Shaheen was wronged by Babar and PCB but he should have given his best for the team.

Babar is a manipulative, toxic guy who surely has the backing of sponsors and the corrupt Javed Afridi. Its high time to kick both Babar and Shaheen out of the side to set an example. Let Rizwan lead until the CT, or the second choice is to have Shan Masood lead the side. Its very clear now that Babar is as toxic, manipulative, and shady as his cousins.
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What is Javed Afridis role here?
 
Josh said:
Any clear example of Shaheen's underperformance from the recently concluded events? It is just an eyewash to make Babar feel secure for his captaincy instead of holding him accountable. How come such a confidential report was leaked to media. Shaheen may have been sour due to his removal as a captain but this had to be resolved through internal discussion and resolving Babar's and Afridi's differences. This is more like throwing him under the bus.
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There is a reason this thread was created. There are reports claiming he misbehaved with the support staff. Why would Gary Kristen lie to save babar ?
 
Maliq_Mudasir said:
There is a reason this thread was created. There are reports claiming he misbehaved with the support staff. Why would Gary Kristen lie to save babar ?
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SSA always pretends to be the softie against opposition players and turns into over-energised rude guy towards his own team mates during matches, the art he has learned from his father in law.
 
Feel sorry for Kirsten and Gillespie... They must be thinking if they've joined some circus with unprofessional clowns all around. 🤦‍♂️
 
sam_ahm said:
Feel sorry for Kirsten and Gillespie... They must be thinking if they've joined some circus with unprofessional clowns all around. 🤦‍♂️
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Yeah they are not kids.

The played Pakistan during the 90s. They know what Pakistan cricket is all about. South Africa have had plenty of administration issues themselves throughout the decades. They haven’t suddenly turned up to something they didn’t know is part and parcel of Pakistan.
 
Rana said:
Kindly explain how giving it to Rizwan is the safest bet?
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-Level headed
-Awesome keeper
-Guaranteed spot in playing XI
-Decent performance as captain in domestic cricket
-Friends with both Babar & Shaheen, therefore can make things work

Ticks all the boxes as far as I am concerned.
 
PCB is trying to make SSA a scapegoat. However, we all know that PCB, Babar, and SSA are equally responsible for this debacle. PCB should not have made Babar the captain and should have let SSA lead the team in the WC. But they took it from SSA and gave it to Babar (who also should not have accepted it; in doing so, he backstabbed SSA). During the WC, SSA backstabbed Babar by conspiring against him and forming factions.
 
gazza619 said:
-Level headed
-Awesome keeper
-Guaranteed spot in playing XI
-Decent performance as captain in domestic cricket
-Friends with both Babar & Shaheen, therefore can make things work

Ticks all the boxes as far as I am concerned.
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Level headed? If you say so.

Awesome Keeper? He’s a good keeper.

Gaurenteed spot in the XI? Which XIs? If he plays in T20 for example, where does he bat according to you and where does he bat according to himself?

-Friends with Babar and Shaheen? Lol how does that matter considering Pakistan is stalling as a nation with these 2-3 players as it’s main players?
 
sam_ahm said:
Feel sorry for Kirsten and Gillespie... They must be thinking if they've joined some circus with unprofessional clowns all around. 🤦‍♂️
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They came in knowing well the mess that was in. But they still came despite their reputation. The package must be very intriguing that they (specially Kirsten) willingly put his reputation up.
 
Warne & gilchrist couldn’t stand each other but when they were on the field you couldn’t tell that.

Gilly never deliberately under performed.. can’t say that about warne as he was a convicted match fixer.
 
By no other board will you find your rare premium fast bowler being insulted and ridiculed like this.

SSA deserves better. Son in law of The Sahid Afridi deserves better than this.
:inti
 
SSA to join the infamous class of MoYo Malik YK R Naved Kamran who have been banned for discipline issues by PCB in the past
 
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cricketjoshila said:
What is Javed Afridis role here?
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The PZ franchise owner wanted his franchise captain to lead the Pakistan team for business purposes. He lobbied and met PCB officials during the PSL for Babar's return as captain. Wahab Riaz, the former PZ captain who was associated with PZ before he got the government gig, was the chief selector. Only 2 out of 7 votes from the selectors resulted in Babar being crowned again.

Babar also wanted PCB to announce Shan Masood's sacking immediately. However, due to no upcoming test series, PCB decided to wait for the right time before the next series to announce that decision. Shan was about to receive the same treatment Shaheen did, he led brilliantly against Australia but faced a whitewash, like all the teams and captains before him.
 
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aukhan said:
The PZ franchise owner wanted his franchise captain to lead the Pakistan team for business purposes. He lobbied and met PCB officials during the PSL for Babar's return as captain. Wahab Riaz, the former PZ captain who was associated with PZ before he got the government gig, was the chief selector. Only 2 out of 7 votes from the selectors resulted in Babar being crowned again.

Babar also wanted PCB to announce Shan Masood's sacking immediately. However, due to no upcoming test series, PCB decided to wait for the right time before the next series to announce that decision. Shan was about to receive the same treatment Shaheen did, he led brilliantly against Australia but faced a whitewash, like all the teams and captains before him.
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Don’t forget Mohammad Yousuf. He was PZ’s batting consultant
 
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Rana said:
Don’t forget Mohammad Yousuf. He was PZ’s batting consultant
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Yep, forgot about yousuf. Only the Akmal brothers and the "Genius" Salman Butt are left.
 
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Josh said:
It was due to Shaheen's underperformance that Babar was 7(24) against the USA, Rizwan was trying to sweep Bumrah and Shadab continued to play as a specialist batter.
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No, but it was due to SSA’s bowling that we didn’t beat SA in the WC in India, due to his bowling that USA chased the target, due to his fielding that USA got till the super over, and the fact that he became a full toss specialist in the WC.

Your 3rd best pacer after Naseem and Amir.
 
Shahid Afridi didn't helped SSA with ill timed and and political statements
 
As per reports, Afridi's misconduct was especially noticeable during a practice session at Headingley on the recent England tour.

Batting coach Mohammad Yousuf pointed out that Afridi was bowling too many no-balls, to which the left-arm pacer curtly responded, "Let me practice for now and don’t talk in the middle." This exchange led to a heated confrontation between the two.

Following the incident, Afridi was reprimanded by the team management and subsequently apologized to Yousuf in front of the entire team. The matter was dismissed after the apology.

Shaheen Shah Afridi may not be considered for the upcoming home Test series against Bangladesh next month. Furthermore, two to three senior cricketers might also be rested.
 
FearlessRoar said:
As per reports, Afridi's misconduct was especially noticeable during a practice session at Headingley on the recent England tour.

Batting coach Mohammad Yousuf pointed out that Afridi was bowling too many no-balls, to which the left-arm pacer curtly responded, "Let me practice for now and don’t talk in the middle." This exchange led to a heated confrontation between the two.

Following the incident, Afridi was reprimanded by the team management and subsequently apologized to Yousuf in front of the entire team. The matter was dismissed after the apology.

Shaheen Shah Afridi may not be considered for the upcoming home Test series against Bangladesh next month. Furthermore, two to three senior cricketers might also be rested.
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Well done Shaheen. Yousuf Backstabber needs to be told to mind his own business.
 
I don’t blame Afridi for this . clearly he supported his heart out for Babar during 4 years and when it was time for Babar to show support he back stabbed him . afridi is a human after all not a robot .
 
Asif321 said:
I don’t blame Afridi for this . clearly he supported his heart out for Babar during 4 years and when it was time for Babar to show support he back stabbed him . afridi is a human after all not a robot .
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How exactly did babar stabbed him in the back?
 
Master Blaster said:
By no other board will you find your rare premium fast bowler being insulted and ridiculed like this.

SSA deserves better. Son in law of The Sahid Afridi deserves better than this.
:inti
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I'm just thinking. The way India handled Bumrah. If they had Shaheen. How well they would've handed Shaheen's injury and comeback
 
@Savak you were saying Shaheen dropped Saya?
 

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RyanRyan10 said:
So, should we believe a report and disregard records that are right before us? It appears that there is a diversionary tactic being used to defend Babar and generate sympathy for him. Oh, look at how our King has been betrayed!
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In my initial post I said Babar Azam should be sacked, so let’s lay that out in the open.
We witnessed Shaheen Shah Afridi bowling full-tosses after full tosses and half volleys on the pitches where a bowler should be bowling the back of length deliveries. There are so many reports coming out against him which can’t be ignored. There is no smoke without fire.
There are 11 players in the team, all of them are playing for Pakistan, and if someone deliberately underperformed because he didn't like the captain, then that person should face the consequences.
 
I’ve had enough with all this nonsense.

I don’t give a damn about shaheen

I don’t give a damn about babar

I don’t give a damn about Rizwan

All 3 have had prominent cricketing roles in the last 3 years over multiple tournaments.

Our cricket has been pathetic in that time. All 3 have failed.

As usual a lot of Pakistani men on social media showing their effeminate side looking for the dramabaazi of conspiracy, saazish, saas bahoo nonsense.

There may well be some of it, but let’s not pretend that is some reason for loss. We are an abysmal team led by an abysmal captain and strategy encompassed by his BFF “senior” partner. Our “leading bowler” has been outshone by everyone including scatter gun Rauf and past his best Amir.

All three should be removed NOW on cricketing terms alone.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
who came first? egg or chicken? Shaheen backstabbed Babar and accepted captaincy when babar was forced to resign by Zaka Ashraf. that was also insulting. Shaheen used to tweet that babar is their red line lol
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How can you say Shaheen backstabbed Babar? Babar is one of the worst captain accross format and he was rightly removed, he is getting free ride since years without any accountability. Babar should have been stripped from captaincy years ago but his lobby is extremely strong that's why he is not leaving captaincy despite pathetic record as captain
 
Asif321 said:
By accepting the captaincy . He could have easily said No and supported Shaheen . Rather he was being selfish
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PCB decided that shaheen was not yet upto mark and so close to wc they would rathar have an experienced captain. They asked babar to accept the captaincy again and he did. The captaincy could have gone to rizwan if babar had not accepted.

These players should focus on their performance instead of captaincy.
 
Pakistani players' mentality needs to change , on the ground they are extremely timid against the opposition and the animosity is amongst the team mates.
 
The guy won like 4 MOMs in 6 matches after being dumped like a hot potato from captainship? And you dare accuse him of deliberate under performance?

I refuse to accept that SSA is compromised.
:sa
 
JibranAnsari said:
PCB decided that shaheen was not yet upto mark and so close to wc they would rathar have an experienced captain. They asked babar to accept the captaincy again and he did. The captaincy could have gone to rizwan if babar had not accepted.

These players should focus on their performance instead of captaincy.
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How can PCB conclude after one series that Shaheen's captaincy wasn't up to the mark ? He should've been given the T20 World Cup and then his position could've been reviewed.

Instead they reinstated Babar whose captaincy was awful for 5 years, and created unnecessary turmoil right before a major tournament.

Shaheen was prematurely rushed back from injury for the 2022 T20 WC where he helped us reach the Final (only to reinjure himself) - all for sake of saving Babar's skin. And what loyalty did Babar show in return to his teammate ?
 
Rana said:
-Friends with Babar and Shaheen? Lol how does that matter considering Pakistan is stalling as a nation with these 2-3 players as it’s main players?
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Just like Salim Malik turned out to be a decent captain in the mid 90s as he had good working relationships with both Waqar and Wasim.
 
LongHorn said:
Just like Salim Malik turned out to be a decent captain in the mid 90s as he had good working relationships with both Waqar and Wasim.
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Salim Malik, Waqar Younis, Wasim Akram


Compare that to the caliber of Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen as cricketers. What world are you living in?
 
Rana said:
Salim Malik, Waqar Younis, Wasim Akram


Compare that to the caliber of Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen as cricketers. What world are you living in?
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Perfectly said - whenever there’s infighting we get the examples of wasim, Waqar, salim malik. Sometimes we get the examples of Shoaib Akhtar, Inzamam, sometimes we get Miandad groupings.

Compare those names to Shaheen, Rizwan, Babar and even before that sometimes it was Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Akmals.

I mean do the idiots in the second paragraph deserve any concessions - they’re not legends like the ones in the first paragraph where you may want to tolerate it cos of their ability. Everyone in the second paragraph. If there’s any hint of infighting with their mediocre ability and performances, if I was in charge, I’d chuck them all out! They’re not good enough to start threatening their non compliance, withdrawal from the team etc
 
Rana said:
Well done Shaheen. Yousuf Backstabber needs to be told to mind his own business.
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Yousaf has more class in his foreskin than Shaheen or his father in law have in their whole family. It was Afridi that did oathgate he is the actual backstabber
 
People on here are saying Shaheen is unprofessional and classless, and I'd agree with them if Shaheen wasn't dealing with the PCB. Professional Cricketing Boards wouldn't treat one of their best players over the last 4 years like the PCB has. If the PCB is going to treat him unprofessionally, it's only understandable that he feels disrespected and his dignity questioned.
 
SSA does not merit a spot in the team on the basis of his last 12 month's performance, needs to be sent back to domestic cricket to work on his basics. We are only fooling ourselves if we believe that he is captaincy material at the moment.

SSA, Babar Azam, Rizwan, Shadab, Iftikhar, Haris Rauf, Azam Khan all need to be dropped from the team, in all formats. We need to get rid of the toxicity for a while..
 
Markhor said:
How can PCB conclude after one series that Shaheen's captaincy wasn't up to the mark ? He should've been given the T20 World Cup and then his position could've been reviewed.

Instead they reinstated Babar whose captaincy was awful for 5 years, and created unnecessary turmoil right before a major tournament.

Shaheen was prematurely rushed back from injury for the 2022 T20 WC where he helped us reach the Final (only to reinjure himself) - all for sake of saving Babar's skin. And what loyalty did Babar show in return to his teammate ?
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I already said in a post above that PCB created a poisonous environment but should Babar be blamed for that , can we say that conclusively that babar had a role to play in shaheen shahs removal as the captain. PCB has been known to do stupid things and thats what they did. Najam sethi wasn't there to take care of things.

But the players play for their country , and instead of keeping grudge over captaincy they should be looking to win as a team.
 
The cycle of entertainment for us Indian fans continues.

First juicy stories of Wasim Waqar in 2000s.

Then shenanigans of Shoaib Asif Afridi Malik Yousuf in 2010s. These guys come on live TV And air there dirty laundry.

Now current generation of Azam Shaheen Shadab will retire or kicked out in next 4-5 years..then they will come on YouTube channels etc to spill the beans.

Absolute Cinema
 
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Markhor said:
How can PCB conclude after one series that Shaheen's captaincy wasn't up to the mark ? He should've been given the T20 World Cup and then his position could've been reviewed.

Instead they reinstated Babar whose captaincy was awful for 5 years, and created unnecessary turmoil right before a major tournament.

Shaheen was prematurely rushed back from injury for the 2022 T20 WC where he helped us reach the Final (only to reinjure himself) - all for sake of saving Babar's skin. And what loyalty did Babar show in return to his teammate ?
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Babar Azam is a backstabber and true politician. Doing everything to keep hold of the power of Captaincy.
 
Salman Butt speaking during an interview:

“I've heard all these reports on TV too, but no discussion like that happened there in the meeting. The coach, manager or captain are so weak that they're complaining afterwards. They should have made the decision at that time.”

“When Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif had a fight in the 2007 World Cup, Shoaib Akhtar was sent back home. It wasn't even a big fight, just a small argument that resulted in some minor incident, but they sent him back. There is not even half the bowler compared to Shoaib Akhtar in the Pakistan team, but the management takes such decisions. The current management is strange, making complaints afterwards. They have people lined up to make complaints. You are the decision-maker, you are the manager, you are the coach or the captain - you should have taken the decision.”​
 
Why PCB is meeting convicted fixer like Salman Butt for revamp in Pakistan cricket? Why 80 plus gentlemen like Intikhab Alam & Shafqat Rana are involved now? There are many other nobodies involved in this meeting, they should not be treated seriously.

PCB must maintain high working standards with strong code of conduct & ethics
 
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If this is true, Then SSA is a rattlesnake , he must be dealt with strictly
 
Shaheen Afridi, the prominent pacer for Pakistan, and his wife Ansha Afridi are expecting their first child. If Shaheen wishes to remain with his wife until the birth of their child, they can provide him with rest, according to the team’s red-ball coach Jason Gillispie.
 
It looks like a cold war has been going on between Babar's PR agents and Shaheen's PR agents for the last two years, and now it has reached its peak, with Shaheen being made a scapegoat for all the World Cup and previous series performances while Babar enjoys the fruits of remaining the white-ball format captain for Pakistan. This reminds me of the same cold war that existed between Nawaz Sharif and the establishment when Imran Khan was the PM of Pakistan.
 
We will never become one nation or one team. Always keep on pulling legs of others to come in power rather than putting real efforts where it is required. Its same in all departments of our country.
You cannot become one nation by just singing dil dil pakistan or pakistaaan zindaaabaad in a stadium.
 
cricketmania22 said:
Throughout the T20 World Cup he kept bowling full-tosses. According to some reports, the coach asked him to bowl back of length deliveries on those pitches but SSA gave him a shut up call. And now we are hearing about his behavioral issues as well. I think he didn’t try his best, in other words, it was deliberate. He should be held accountable.
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Or the other side can also be true, SSA is just an over hyped average bowler.
 
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