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The ball-tampering crisis that has brought Australian cricket to its knees turned nuclear on Tuesday night with players turning on David Warner amid claims that the deposed vice-captain may never play for his country again.
Hours before Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland was due to announce the findings of an internal investigation into the scandal and hand down severe penalties, the Australian team flew to Johannesburg with some players furious at Warner in the belief he had attempted to throw them under the bus.

The deposed vice-captain removed himself from the team's WhatsApp group in the midst of the unprecedented drama. Warner and Steve Smith, who were both facing losing their leadership roles as well as having bans imposed for their part in the cheating plot, walked through Cape Town airport surrounded by hordes of television cameras and reporters.
Fairfax Media reported exclusively on Monday night that Warner had emerged as the central character in the affair, with suggestions he was the primary figure behind the ill-fated decision for Cameron Bancroft to use a piece of yellow tape to try and alter the condition of the ball during the third Test.

Sources close to Warner had denied that he was the instigator, saying the whole team were aware of the plans, including Australia's fast bowlers. Their belief was that if one or two players were to go down over the controversy, then all should.

Warner's version of events has prompted an angry reaction from others in the team who were enraged with the opening batsman.

Senior fast bowlers Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood, as well as the team's most capped player, Nathan Lyon, had distanced themselves from knowledge of the ploy soon after Smith's claim after the day's play on Saturday that the decision had been made by the "leadership group".
In interviews with the CA head of integrity, Iain Roy, in Cape Town on Monday the players offered their versions of events. According to sources close to the dressing room the most prominent narrative was that the plan was devised during a discussion between Warner and Bancroft, and that Smith foolishly agreed to it.

The major disharmony between Warner and others in the team has led to suggestions from prominent figures within the game that he may never play for the country. Sources say that players do not want to set foot on the field with him again.

The Australian cricket team's ball tampering controversy is causing their leadership to be called into question.

Warner had previously been the team's appointed ball manager in the field, but after gaining attention for wearing a bandage over his hand and fingers in Port Elizabeth in the previous match, the task was then left to junior team member Bancroft, who was deemed less likely to go under the microscope of the operators of the local television broadcaster's 30 cameras.
Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland flew to South Africa to deal with the scandal.

The discussion in the dressing room has changed careers and lives, shattered reputations and left Australia's treasured national sport in crisis.
There were further developments on Tuesday in South Africa ahead of an anticipated announcement in the evening that was poised to confirm which players were involved in the plot and what action would be taken.
Roy and and fellow CA executive Pat Howard flew from Cape Town to Johannesburg in the morning here to meet with Sutherland in the city's Sandton district and relay the findings from their day-long interviews with players, team management and staff. A telephone hook-up between Sutherland and the CA board was then scheduled for 1pm (10pm AEDT).
The Australian team were on a mid-morning flight and when they touched down in the early afternoon those deemed to be culpable were to be fronted by Sutherland and be told their fate.

At the same time Queensland opening batsman Matthew Renshaw was on his way from Brisbane to Johannesburg to join the squad for the fourth and final Test of the series, which starts at the Wanderers ground on Friday.


It had been Renshaw, 21, who had made way for Bancroft in the Australian home summer when the in-form West Australian made his Test debut. The batsman was flying out from a country still in meltdown about the affair.
Former Test captain Steve Waugh was the latest high-profile identity to weigh in. Waugh had played a key role in drafting the so-called "Spirit of Australian Cricket" pledge for his Test team 15 years ago.

“Like many, I’m deeply troubled by the events in Cape Town this last week, and acknowledge the thousands of messages I have received, mostly from heartbroken cricket followers worldwide,” Waugh said. “The Australian cricket team has always believed it could win in any situation against any opposition, by playing combative, skilful and fair cricket, driven by our pride in the fabled baggy green.

“I have no doubt the current Australian team continues to believe in this mantra, however some have now failed our culture, making a serious error of judgement in the Cape Town Test match."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cri...-crisis-tears-team-apart-20180327-p4z6ks.html
 
At worst some 10 Test match suspension or ban for a few months.

But a complete ban on playing for Aus again is ridiculous.
 
At worst some 10 Test match suspension or ban for a few months.

But a complete ban on playing for Aus again is ridiculous.

He’s been employing different tactics over the years to gain an advantage. Of course that has contributed towards a number of Ozzie wins that look hollow today. Why should he be banned for only few months?
 
CA seem to have gotten their fall guy. I for a second don't believe that Warner somehow convinced both smith and Bancroft while the coaching staff and more importantly bowlers were oblivious of this.

He has always been the black sheep and his earlier shenanigans make him a good scape goat but he sure as hell can't be the only guy at fault here.
 
Warner is finished. CA hasn't forgotten his antics with the pay dispute. He will do well to be a T20 league mercenary.

I dislike Warner as a person but loved his batting. Will miss hom playing for Australia.
 
"Sources close to Warner had denied that he was the instigator, saying the whole team were aware of the plans, including Australia's fast bowlers. Their belief was that if one or two players were to go down over the controversy, then all should."

Indeed, the whole team would have been aware of what was going to go down. But the captain, vice captain and coach would probably be the most responsible since it was likely their plan. Sharing the blame, perhaps better for the individual, but for Australian cricket it looks bad that so many people were involved in some manner.

But again, other teams probably tamper the ball in their own way, planned or unplanned, but it can cut pretty deep when you get caught on camera for blatant tampering.
 
At worst some 10 Test match suspension or ban for a few months.

But a complete ban on playing for Aus again is ridiculous.

This is not a one off issue, this has been going on for a long time, and they have been cheating in drs reviews as well, there is a proper cheating culture in this aussie team. People are being naive if they simply look at this as an isolated ball tampering issue
 
Warner is finished. CA hasn't forgotten his antics with the pay dispute. He will do well to be a T20 league mercenary.

I dislike Warner as a person but loved his batting. Will miss hom playing for Australia.

I doubt leagues will select a banned player
 
Heard that CA will terminate his contract and will remove him from the team.Just like KP was removed from the England setup.
 
I doubt leagues will select a banned player

They were happy with Pietersen and Gayle however. These guys were given the silent handshake by their respective boards.
 
It wrong to compare him to KP, he wasn't a cheat nor did he get drunk and attack people.
KP's issue was greyer and I still feel he was made a scapegoat.

Warner is a repeat offender.
 
They were happy with Pietersen and Gayle however. These guys were given the silent handshake by their respective boards.

KP wasn't a cheat though. He was a disagreeable guy who was hard ot deal with. Smith has shamed the entire country
 
It's making me chuckle the Aussies are making an official complaint about the personal abuse they are receiving ... #please !!!! #SAvAUS
— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) March 24, 2018



I'm glad it's making you laugh.
— Candice Warner (@CandyFalzon) March 24, 2018

Wow so you would approve of the same treatment to your wife and 3 kids??
— Candice Warner (@CandyFalzon) March 24, 2018
This is why i Support warner.If he goes down the whole team should.All those who were aware of the plan.He is being thrown under the bus to save Smith's career.
I know Warner has been bully in the past but he had changed in last 3 years or so.
 
It wrong to compare him to KP, he wasn't a cheat nor did he get drunk and attack people.
KP's issue was greyer and I still feel he was made a scapegoat.

Warner is a repeat offender.

Yes.KP was definitely a lesser issue.Warner has been a rogue for too long.His misdemeanours are of a far greater nature.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION],what do you make of this?What sort of punishment do you think the 'leadership group' and Bancroft deserve?
 
It's making me chuckle the Aussies are making an official complaint about the personal abuse they are receiving ... #please !!!! #SAvAUS
— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) March 24, 2018



I'm glad it's making you laugh.
— Candice Warner (@CandyFalzon) March 24, 2018

Wow so you would approve of the same treatment to your wife and 3 kids??
— Candice Warner (@CandyFalzon) March 24, 2018
This is why i Support warner.If he goes down the whole team should.All those who were aware of the plan.He is being thrown under the bus to save Smith's career.
I know Warner has been bully in the past but he had changed in last 3 years or so.

Abuse wasn't the issue the issue was a bully with a big mouth and even bigger rap sheet telling everybody how to behave and a coach who was convicted of racial abuse and asked Aussie fans to send an opponent home crying complaining about people abusing his team.
 
CA seem to have gotten their fall guy. I for a second don't believe that Warner somehow convinced both smith and Bancroft while the coaching staff and more importantly bowlers were oblivious of this.

He has always been the black sheep and his earlier shenanigans make him a good scape goat but he sure as hell can't be the only guy at fault here.

No one involved is getting away with this. Warner won't keep quite if he gets a life ban and is the only player to be punished like that.
 
No one involved is getting away with this. Warner won't keep quite if he gets a life ban and is the only player to be punished like that.

We will have to see whether he keeps quite or not. His Australian career seems to be done for and I don't see that happening to anyone else. I don't think CA will even punish anyone other than Warner Smith and Bancroft with Lehmann most likely handing in his resignation.
 
If Warner gets harsh punishment the rest will be exposed as well. Better punish all to a low extent than punish one.

Australia team is going to get rekt
 
a life ban is never merited for this but CA could well make an example & I have a feeling that Warner will be the scapegoat .. he is my favourite foreign player after Sanga retirement, he has a bit of a reputation as a badboy & probably the main Sledger in the team which obviously didn’t make him many friends. My gut feeling is that Lehman & Warner are the main culprits & it has definitely been going on for a while especially the ashes I watched them reverse it very well while the English pacer struggled to do it....
 
One thing ive learnt about the Aussies in this whole scenario...

They all act tough, macho and follow a bro code until things turn extremely sour! The moment Bancroft is caught on camera, he cr*ps his pants and does a stupid thing on camera again. The Moment Smith knows that the world will know that he put Bancroft upto this, he also panics and just admits to his mistake, also throwing the leadership group under the bus. The moment the leadership group (embodied in the form of David Warner) know their days are numbered, Warner goes all out and snitches on his team-mates and bowlers! Clearly these guys were never homies, brothers!

Some may call Hansie a criminal for withholding names of team mates to the police and the media. However one thing is for sure, the guy was not a snitch, he didnt scr*w the lives of guys who got away with it!

Are we to Respect Hansie more than Warner and Smith? Maybe not in a gentleman's world, however too much respect for Hansie in the streets of COMPTON!
 
One thing ive learnt about the Aussies in this whole scenario...

They all act tough, macho and follow a bro code until things turn extremely sour! The moment Bancroft is caught on camera, he cr*ps his pants and does a stupid thing on camera again. The Moment Smith knows that the world will know that he put Bancroft upto this, he also panics and just admits to his mistake, also throwing the leadership group under the bus. The moment the leadership group (embodied in the form of David Warner) know their days are numbered, Warner goes all out and snitches on his team-mates and bowlers! Clearly these guys were never homies, brothers!

Some may call Hansie a criminal for withholding names of team mates to the police and the media. However one thing is for sure, the guy was not a snitch, he didnt scr*w the lives of guys who got away with it!

Are we to Respect Hansie more than Warner and Smith? Maybe not in a gentleman's world, however too much respect for Hansie in the streets of COMPTON!

They are basically the mafia from Goodfellas who fell apart once the going got tough.
 
Easiest person to throw under the bus.

The snake that hasn't been targeted at all is Lehmann who's slowly weaving his way out. He's the damn coach and would have more say in this debacle than anybody.
 
Easiest person to throw under the bus.

The snake that hasn't been targeted at all is Lehmann who's slowly weaving his way out. He's the damn coach and would have more say in this debacle than anybody.

No point targeting Lehmann, he'll be sacked ( if doesn't resign himself) for sure and he'll never coach any australian team ever.
 
Cricket Australia CEO James Sutherland will address media in Johannesburg at 7pm (4am AEDT).10:30IST
10 pm Pakistan time.
cricket.com.au
The comments aee now flooded with "Dont be harsh on them.No life bans"
 
David Warner has done many other things that would warrant him being suspended/Banned, He is a complete bully that needs to know he aint bigger than the team but he doesnt get that, Also he sounds as if he is toxic for his own team members, Thats probably the biggest issue for me than the ball tampering. If he is creating a toxic culture and he has for along time he should be banquished, This will give them the excuse.
 
No point targeting Lehmann, he'll be sacked ( if doesn't resign himself) for sure and he'll never coach any australian team ever.

There is. If he's going to be sacked then he should've taken majority of the blame because none of this happens without his approval and he was actually caught on camera orchestrating the whole show.

Instead, he hasn't taken any responsibility and has been dead silent. He's left his team for the vultures to feed on.
 
I feel for him. Whenever I see him in the IPL, he bats, captains and fields his heart out and give everything for his team(SRH). One of the biggest superstars in the IPL along with Kohli, Dhoni, AB, Gayle. Very fiery character. It will be cricket's loss if he gets a life ban.
 
I feel for him. Whenever I see him in the IPL, he bats, captains and fields his heart out and give everything for his team(SRH). One of the biggest superstars in the IPL along with Kohli, Dhoni, AB, Gayle. Very fiery character. It will be cricket's loss if he gets a life ban.

Same here.
 
I think they will let him go. Bigger punishment would be to not issue a NOC by the way of a ban. IPL requires an NOC

Warner probably wouldn't be too stressed about it if he gets the NOC. I remember him talking about being tempted to join a rebel league by Lalit Modi a few years ago if ever that materialized.
 
Warner is finished. CA hasn't forgotten his antics with the pay dispute. He will do well to be a T20 league mercenary.

I dislike Warner as a person but loved his batting. Will miss hom playing for Australia.

30th April 2018 is contract renewal date. I reckon CA will not renew Warner's contract, and he will become a mercenary for sure, but CA will make him pay, but keeping him on a temp contract until next year and not grant Warner an NOC to play in the IPL.

Smith is already set to lose out on about $5 Million in the next 12 months! OUCH!
 
One thing ive learnt about the Aussies in this whole scenario...

They all act tough, macho and follow a bro code until things turn extremely sour! The moment Bancroft is caught on camera, he cr*ps his pants and does a stupid thing on camera again. The Moment Smith knows that the world will know that he put Bancroft upto this, he also panics and just admits to his mistake, also throwing the leadership group under the bus. The moment the leadership group (embodied in the form of David Warner) know their days are numbered, Warner goes all out and snitches on his team-mates and bowlers! Clearly these guys were never homies, brothers!

Some may call Hansie a criminal for withholding names of team mates to the police and the media. However one thing is for sure, the guy was not a snitch, he didnt scr*w the lives of guys who got away with it!

Are we to Respect Hansie more than Warner and Smith? Maybe not in a gentleman's world, however too much respect for Hansie in the streets of COMPTON!

You have to be kidding if you believed that the Aussie team mates were brothers. The great Aussie team of the 90's and early 2000's secretly despised each other and could not stand each other but these problems were never out in the open given how glamorous that side was and how often they won.
 
Warner also wants to go into politics after cricket lol. Must have changed his mind now.

I feel like Australian media are blowing this up in order to try and instil a bit of excitement into cricket again, especially test cricket. The last few ashes series while not failures, haven't generated the same amount of hype.

There's panic amongst the players, players trying to avoid the worst case scenario, life ban. This issue has gone much crazier than players would have expected even if they got caught.

If anything Warner's account seems accurate. That was probably the plan, if you're going to tamper with the ball on purpose, you'll probably give the fast bowlers the heads up so they are aware to take advantage. And to shine the ball themselves in order to take away focus. In fact it makes sense that all the team probably knew.

And I'm sure the initial plan was to throw one or two players under the bus if caught. That's usually how it goes, you don't want the whole team or the main central players going down. Which is why Bancroft was chosen.

The guy to blame mostly for this affair is the captain. He made the decision. Even let's say hypothetically Warner suggested the idea, Smith could always turn around and say no. Even with the coach, it's difficult for the coach to go against the captain, Coach is replaceable often if CA had to choose between coach and captain, they're usually going to go with the captain.

Smith should get a year ban and remove captaincy, Bancroft a few matches. Not even sure Warner should get a ban, he isn't directly linked and there's no real proof he's more directly linked than say the fast bowlers. If he does, again a few matches.

Lehmann should probably let go, which is harsh as he's getting the only termination, but is the best way to rid the tampering scandal and disharmony in the team. Unfortunately that's often how teams work, coach takes the fall when a team loses/mucks up. It was also partly his responsibility for not picking it up if he wasn't involved. And if he was involved, you can't have a man who does this in charge of tactics.
 
Just as i thought, warner the scapegoat who will never play for Australia again while punishments for smith and bancroft while everyone else is spared.
 
The elephant in the room which is going to be the most influential on the outcome of the matter is sponsorship. CA sponsors want to disassociate from CA, and I imagine the punishments may be severe to appease them.

IPL may have been happy to take mercenaries but I don't see how they would want cheaters to taint their league. With their own history of corruption.
 
This would be too harsh if it happens.

Australia people seem to want a head and Warner's head is something CA have wanted since he lead the charge in the pay dispute, this is a win win for them. Though what surprises me is how Lehmann is allowed to keep his job.

Sutherland talks about reviewing on the whole how the team behaves and then shields the 1 guy who is most responsible for this behavior.
 
I don't care about the ball-tampering saga but I'm sure hoping that this guy is permanently banned. I hate him.
 
Would we say this scandal is any less severe than the spot fixing scandal? If not surely 5 years should be the minimum
 
There's a fine line here.

You can't give a ridiculous punishment (i.e. life ban) because it'll turn into a mess. Do you think Warner will take that lying down?

He'll rush to the media and throw everyone under the bus.

CA has to manage the situation as best as possible so it dies down.
 
So now rifts in Aussie dressing room, look like its every man for themselves now :)))
 
CA don’t even have to ban anyone, in Warner’s case for example he has already been removed as vice-captain - so they can just stop picking him. When Pietersen’s England career was brought to an end he was not banned and he did not retire, they were so sick of his dramas that one day they just told him that they would never pick him again and sent him on his way.
 
Warner will not take a life-ban without taking CA to court and exposing the rest of the team, which definitely did know what was going on. How can you even try to hide ball-tampering from the bowlers? They're the ones bowling with it and I'm sure Starc is not an idiot and can tell the difference between a naturally deteriorated cherry and one that has been tampered with.

A life ban is not even appropriate. The guy did not match-fix or do anything else seriously corrupt. At most, a 6 month ban and don't allow him to play the IPL or any other T20 leagues. Ditto for S. Smith.
 
CA don’t even have to ban anyone, in Warner’s case for example he has already been removed as vice-captain - so they can just stop picking him. When Pietersen’s England career was brought to an end he was not banned and he did not retire, they were so sick of his dramas that one day they just told him that they would never pick him again and sent him on his way.
Warner is a loose cannon and will go on a rampage. Doesn't matter if you ban him or you refuse to pick him. His reputation is in tatters right now and the fall-out he has had with the team is enough to make him spill the beans of what exactly went on in the dressing room.

Steve Smith messed up royally by mentioninf the 'leadership group'. He has opened a can of worms that might lead to a very ugly turn of events here.
 
There's a fine line here.

You can't give a ridiculous punishment (i.e. life ban) because it'll turn into a mess. Do you think Warner will take that lying down?

He'll rush to the media and throw everyone under the bus.

CA has to manage the situation as best as possible so it dies down.

Doesn't matter, the players will probably never wear a baggy green cap again ban or no ban and will have to live with this stigma for the rest of their lives especially Smith.
 
Warner will not take a life-ban without taking CA to court and exposing the rest of the team, which definitely did know what was going on. How can you even try to hide ball-tampering from the bowlers? They're the ones bowling with it and I'm sure Starc is not an idiot and can tell the difference between a naturally deteriorated cherry and one that has been tampered with.

A life ban is not even appropriate. The guy did not match-fix or do anything else seriously corrupt. At most, a 6 month ban and don't allow him to play the IPL or any other T20 leagues. Ditto for S. Smith.

I hope there is a thorough investigation and all the players are taken to task. The Aussies are caught between a rock and a hard place. Ban everyone and you have no team, ban the top 3 guys and you will be accessed of covering things up.
 
one thing is clear, it's not a private case between Smith, Bancroft and Warner. They were all in on it.

Watch as days go by. Soon you will see confessions made by Lehman, Starc and Hazlewood. They will all crack eventually and Warner will not go down alone I bet you any money
 
Warner is a loose cannon and will go on a rampage. Doesn't matter if you ban him or you refuse to pick him. His reputation is in tatters right now and the fall-out he has had with the team is enough to make him spill the beans of what exactly went on in the dressing room.

Steve Smith messed up royally by mentioninf the 'leadership group'. He has opened a can of worms that might lead to a very ugly turn of events here.

Steven Smith is a snitch! This is what happens to people who snitch on those who they could have defended! But tbf, what if smith took it all upon him saying that it was only his idea, he would look like the worst guy in the history of cricket for using a youngster to do dirty work
 
Warner might play again but Smith is done

its a huge thing to play for the baggy green in Aus, and if the captain is caught cheating its game over
 
I smell a deal here. Board will issue NOC for Warner's silence. They will cancel his contract and will cut ties with him. He will be a free lancer playing T20 leagues raking millions.

They clearly have decided to make one person a scape goat. On SMH, I saw an article where Henriques speculated that Smith probably wasn't even aware of it and was just trying to take responsibility as a leader of men. Sutherland has shielded Lehmann of all people and now there is not even a chatter about the others in the leadership group - Starc, Hazelwood and Lyon.

They will project Smith as a gullible idiot instead of a cheat and will bring him back into the fold as a player before India series.
 
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I smell a deal here. Board will issue NOC for Warner's silence. They will cancel his contract and will cut ties with him. He will be a free lancer playing T20 leagues raking millions.

They clearly have decided to make one person a scape goat. On SMH, I saw an article where Henriques speculated that Smith probably wasn't even aware of it and was just trying to take responsibility as a leader of men. Sutherland has shielded Lehmann of all people and now there is not even a chatter about the others in the leadership group - Starc, Hazelwood and Lyon.

They will project Smith as a gullible idiot instead of a cheat and will bring him back into the fold as a player before India series.

You could be on to something here. But Warner isn't going to be happy to be made a scapegoat. Even his wife is very vocal these days, they will play the victim card forever. Plus they have Lovely kids who need to grow up and lead happy lives, no way are they going to let Warner look like the villain on his own
 
I smell a deal here. Board will issue NOC for Warner's silence. They will cancel his contract and will cut ties with him. He will be a free lancer playing T20 leagues raking millions.

They clearly have decided to make one person a scape goat. On SMH, I saw an article where Henriques speculated that Smith probably wasn't even aware of it and was just trying to take responsibility as a leader of men. Sutherland has shielded Lehmann of all people and now there is not even a chatter about the others in the leadership group - Starc, Hazelwood and Lyon.

They will project Smith as a gullible idiot instead of a cheat and will bring him back into the fold as a player before India series.

The problem is that we will never know what actually happened. We just have to wait and watch as to what transpires. It is not completely clear as to whether Lehmann had something to do with this whole mess. It is hard to imagine 3 players got together and decided to cheat while the rest of the members were completely unaware of what is happening. Hard to believe that narrative.
 
You could be on to something here. But Warner isn't going to be happy to be made a scapegoat. Even his wife is very vocal these days, they will play the victim card forever. Plus they have Lovely kids who need to grow up and lead happy lives, no way are they going to let Warner look like the villain on his own

More the reason for him to accept the deal for financial security. Warner has been a nuisance during the contract negotiations, during SA series. It's his voice vs the rest of the team and he has no credibility. There hasn't been much sympathy for him in the entire De Kock episode.

With television rights negotiations ongoing, there is no way in heck the broadcasters are going to pay hefty sums without the second coming of Bradman and Akram. I believe Lehmann is being saved just to exonerate Smith. This way they can just project that it was one rogue element in the team and the captain and coach weren't aware of it.
 
The problem is that we will never know what actually happened. We just have to wait and watch as to what transpires. It is not completely clear as to whether Lehmann had something to do with this whole mess. It is hard to imagine 3 players got together and decided to cheat while the rest of the members were completely unaware of what is happening. Hard to believe that narrative.

Look at how the narrative changed in the matter of days. First it was the leadership team. Then it's 3 players and now Warner is apparently not in speaking teams with the rest of the team and Smith is inconsolable. They need their superstars in the team and they have an easy target.
 
More the reason for him to accept the deal for financial security. Warner has been a nuisance during the contract negotiations, during SA series. It's his voice vs the rest of the team and he has no credibility. There hasn't been much sympathy for him in the entire De Kock episode.

With television rights negotiations ongoing, there is no way in heck the broadcasters are going to pay hefty sums without the second coming of Bradman and Akram. I believe Lehmann is being saved just to exonerate Smith. This way they can just project that it was one rogue element in the team and the captain and coach weren't aware of it.

That is really hard to believe. People will easily understand anything said to that effect is a clear cover up. CA will lose more credibility if they say something to that effect. A Vice Captain, using a rookie to cheat without the captain and coach knowing it? That is never going to fly.
 
That is really hard to believe. People will easily understand anything said to that effect is a clear cover up. CA will lose more credibility if they say something to that effect. A Vice Captain, using a rookie to cheat without the captain and coach knowing it? That is never going to fly.

Well. Lehmann is still the coach. Sutherland says they are looking to change the team culture but retained their biggest bully.

They want Smith and Starc. They want their bowling attack. Renshaw is coming up and will replace Warner. His public persona is already tainted and he will be the fall guy.
 
It is clear they have been doctoring the ball for quite a while and this is not the first time. I refuse to believe that others were not in on it.
 
Sutherland and bogan Lehmann need to go.

OS sick of the filthy boganism of Lehmann
 
It's his voice vs the rest of the team and he has no credibility.

Not when he starts pointing out specific moments in previous matches. They'll go back through the footage and get everyone.

There's a lot of trouble coming CA's way if they mess with Warner of all people.
 
The problem is that we will never know what actually happened. We just have to wait and watch as to what transpires. It is not completely clear as to whether Lehmann had something to do with this whole mess. It is hard to imagine 3 players got together and decided to cheat while the rest of the members were completely unaware of what is happening. Hard to believe that narrative.

Out of 3 involved ... includes Capatin & vice-captain :ashwin

Whom CA fooling? Jokers... Cover-up of highest order :trump
 
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