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[Report] Playing XI for Pakistan team now in hands of five-member Selection Committee!

Do you support the PCB's decision to give a five-member committee the authority to select playing XI

  • Yes, it will streamline the selection process

    Votes: 12 44.4%

  • No, it excludes important voices like the captain and head coach.

    Votes: 15 55.6%
  • Total voters
    27
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As per reports:

The committee previously comprised 11 members in total, including four selectors, a data analyst, the national team's captain and head coach, as well as four ex-officio members (who did not have voting power).

In a recent decision, the PCB has opted to remove the captain, head coach, and the ex-officio members from the committee. This change leaves the committee with five members who now hold decisive power: former cricketers Aaqib Javed, Azhar Ali, and Asad Shafique, former umpire Aleem Dar, and data analyst Hasan Cheema.

The committee has been granted the authority to not only select squads but also determine the Pakistan playing XIs, according to a PCB spokesperson who spoke to Dawn on Thursday.
 
Well this won’t last long. Not the usual practice. How can captain not have a say in selection.
Give the authority to toss and set field placements also to this committee.
 
Josh said:
This is wrong and selectors have made their point already. Your captain and coach should be able to select the XI.
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Think this is similar to what was happening when Misbah was Head Coach/CS
 
Shameful that they havr made Jason Gillespie dummy.. and what will happen in Australia and SA? Will whole selection commitee travel with team?
 
excellent decision. 👏

This comes after Shan Masood and Jason Gillespie pushed for Babar to play on a spin-heavy pitch in the last test.

While the captain and coach should have input on team selection, if they're insisting on Babar playing on a spinning track where he can’t handle even 5 minutes of spin, their selection authority should be questioned.
 
Interesting dynamic

Rizwan’s success as captain comes with insisting on weird selections+ strategies to suit himself first.

Let’s see how this pans out.
 
for all those complaining the that this is a bad move. Harsh measures for harsh times.

The team management have shown they can’t be trusted to make the right calls. This hand has been forced. I hope they learn their lesson.

If the the management had their way, babar would have played this test instead of Kamran. And believe you me, he would have cried like a baby about a turning pitch. He may have not even allowed it to happen due to his political connections. And even if it did happen, he would have been a walking wicket. There is no way he would have even made the 26 Kamran made in the second innings never mind the century in the first innings.
 
People crying about this being a wrong decision,

Well this is what happens when the nation has lost trust in the way captains are misusing their powers.

Myself and others have repeatedly brought attention to this key issue time and time again.

You’ve seen it in the national team. You see it in PSL. You see it in the domestic circuit too.

Enough is enough. Pakistan cricketers cannot be trusted with power. They are far too selfish, or are far too concerned about their image perception, or to please their agents and agencies, or to give benefits to the players in their agencies.

You deserve this. It would not have been the case had these captains/players been sincere to the country.
 
People need to stop complaining, Pakistan captains have shown that they are not trust worthy.

If you have Rizwan as captain that means you'll be going with a squad of

1) Abdullah Shafique
2) Shan Masood
3) Babar Azam
4) Muhammad Rizwan
5) Iftikhar Ahmed(Who'd get promoted)
6) Shadab Khan
7) Muhammad Nawaz
8) Hasan Ali
9) Shaheen Shah Afridi
10) Naseem Shah
11) Abrar

^^ Do you lot really want this clown to make such a selection?

Abrar, Chacha, Babar, Abdullah and Shan would be guaranteed picks under him.
 
“Rizwan isn’t a yes man”

Well, everyone is a yes man when the law is emphatically laid down!
 
Hopefully Abdullah is s getting the boot the next game I trust Aqib bhai
 
Now you realise how much Babar Azam, his agents and stakeholders have destroyed Pakistan cricket.

All the hate he receives by thorough patriots and lovers of Pakistan cricket is 100% justified.
 
Rana said:
Now you realise how much Babar Azam, his agents and stakeholders have destroyed Pakistan cricket.

All the hate he receives by thorough patriots and lovers of Pakistan cricket is 100% justified.
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Babar’s agents and paid social media warriors are so cringe. They are still posting footage of 2019! Yea that really changed my mind
 
So basically Munirla being implemented in cricket. One fluke win and PCB acting like a Silicon Valley Co.
 
Rana said:
Why are you so hurt?
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Not hurt stating the fact, you trust a player to captain the side but not trust him to have say in team selection, definitely strings she pulled from somewhere else
 
Kianig89 said:
Not hurt stating the fact, you trust a player to captain the side but not trust him to have say in team selection, definitely strings she pulled from somewhere else
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Yeah that trust is gone.

Who’s fault is that?
 
Rana said:
Yeah that trust is gone.

Who’s fault is that?
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It's failure of system , the meddling in cricket affairs and decisions not being made on merit.
Having Shan Masood as captain is wrong foundation on which PCB is trying to make the team stand
 
I would love to see below players in pak team
Tayyab tahir
Haider Ali
Jahandad khan
Zafar gouhar
 
ODI squad for pak in batting order should be
1) Shaan masood
2) Babar
3) Kamran ghulam
4) Tayyab Tahir
5) M. Rizwan
6) Agha salman
7) Imad wasim
8) Jahandad khan
9) osama
10) M. Amir
11) Naseem shah
 
I can still understand captain not having a say in selection of X1, as he can favor his friends… but not even involving coach??? Why make them head coach then..? Does PCB want a dummy coach? As per reports, Aqub..has even relaxed fitness standards…then what is Gillespie..there for?
 
Rana said:
What is normality?
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Picking a normal team based on conditions with input from the captain and coach that is logical. No one has outright power and via consensus teams are picked. That is how it is in the rest of the world. Why is it that in Pakistan there has to be one or a few individuals who have absolute power and the rest are just followers.
When Babar had too much power it didn't work, when Misbah had too much power is didn't work, now selectors have too much power it most definitely won't work as captain and coach might lobby to get the selectors out etc.
 
@Saj Can we have an idea..how Gillespie is feeling about all of this..being totally blocked out from selection of even playing 11?
 
This is dumb. I agree with removing power from captain. But this totally undermines the coach. The coach has to make plans to win yet doesn’t get the players he wants. Doesn’t make sense.

The five man selection committee should pick the squad. And then the coach should solely pick the team. The captain then leads that team on the day.

The coach is extremely important in modern day sports. Cricket is following suit. In cricket the coach is becoming more important, look at how Mccullum is changing englands entire style in tests. And yet Pakistan is going backwards and taking power away from coach.
 
ads101 said:
This is dumb. I agree with removing power from captain. But this totally undermines the coach. The coach has to make plans to win yet doesn’t get the players he wants. Doesn’t make sense.

The five man selection committee should pick the squad. And then the coach should solely pick the team. The captain then leads that team on the day.

The coach is extremely important in modern day sports. Cricket is following suit. In cricket the coach is becoming more important, look at how Mccullum is changing englands entire style in tests. And yet Pakistan is going backwards and taking power away from coach.
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The captain should have a say over the starting XI otherwise they're a captain in name only. You cannot expect captains to take the field with players he doesn't back.

It was clear Shan had no trust in Zahid Mehmood whatsoever even on a turning pitch.
 
Markhor said:
The captain should have a say over the starting XI otherwise they're a captain in name only. You cannot expect captains to take the field with players he doesn't back.

It was clear Shan had no trust in Zahid Mehmood whatsoever even on a turning pitch.
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Shan and Gillespie both didn’t want to drop Babar.

The committee and nation have lost the trust of this coach and captain.
 
BouncerGuy said:
As per reports:


The committee has been granted the authority to not only select squads but also determine the Pakistan playing XIs, according to a PCB spokesperson who spoke to Dawn on Thursday.
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Seems strange.
 
Rana said:
Yeah and bring in who? Keep on chopping and changing?
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No, put whoever has trust to do the job.

If captain and coach have no trust from PCT then not sure why they are doing those roles.
 
3 crucial balls

Score very much in Pakistan’s grasp
 
This is not how you play cricket!! The captain must have the final say in selecting the playing 11. Suggestions from team management are always welcome, but the captain cannot be forced to go with a lineup they don't agree with. Any cricketer who understands the game should reject such an approach. Aaqib, Asad and Azhar should firmly oppose this idea and make it clear to Naqvi how these decisions should be made, emphasizing the captain's crucial role in team selection.
 
Although i do understand the rationale behind this, but this is not sustainable in the long term. Captain needs to be empowered but for that we first need a non selfish, courageous captain which you cannot find in Shan Masood. The fact that this guy was still backing Babar shows he has no character. Well thats what happens when you select someone who knows he himself is not on merit and wants to not make the politically strong players unhappy.

I hope this is an interim solution and Aqib comes up with a long term solution for this.
 
If the selectors have the final say in the playing XI then I expect them to appear after every match to explain their selections. They’ll also have to travel abroad with the team to assess the conditions of the pitch to select the right XI.

Imagine being the captain of the team and being asked questions about your team selection after a heavy loss. What do you say, “oh the selectors will have to answer that, thank you goodbye”.
 
PCB is ahead of times, reality is after the record breaking defeat Mr. Yourine was let loose so in order to divert attention he axed the so called top players and created a parallel selection team.

Thankfully he is saved with the gamble of used pitch, normality will resume in RWP
 
If the concern was nepotism by captains, why was a foreign coach—Jason Gillespie—removed from voting rights? Gillespie had no involvement in nepotism. This reflects a clear lack of a systematic approach to solving issues.

This is all about control and lack of vision. It’s one of the most absurd developments in recent times and shows why sports, which is a science, cannot be effectively run by journalists, politicians, and others without relevant expertise.

How can selectors choose a playing XI remotely from Pakistan? They lack on-the-ground knowledge of what’s needed. Forcing selections without buy-in from the captain or coach will only create new problems.

If the goal was to give selectors more control, the captain and coach should also have a say in the final selection. They are the ones preparing the team and are ultimately held accountable for the results.
 
We are not far from Jason Gillespie resignation latter along with Gary.

No wonder shane Watson and few more were refused the coach offer.

In future pakistan will not attract any big names as an coaching roles if things are going to be same.

What's the role of coach and captain when they can't even select the playing eleven.

Who is gonna take the blame if pakistan will lose the matches .

If they don't have trust on coach amd captain then removed them from their respective positions.
 
Naqvi is ruthless. He is taking tough decisions. Though, not many like the tough decisions when they are taken.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
If the selectors have the final say in the playing XI then I expect them to appear after every match to explain their selections. They’ll also have to travel abroad with the team to assess the conditions of the pitch to select the right XI.

Imagine being the captain of the team and being asked questions about your team selection after a heavy loss. What do you say, “oh the selectors will have to answer that, thank you goodbye”.
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Lol, it will be fun to watch if it happens.
 
Who knew ai, the 5 horsemen of the apocalypse are Pakistani
 
Farabi said:
If the concern was nepotism by captains, why was a foreign coach—Jason Gillespie—removed from voting rights? Gillespie had no involvement in nepotism. This reflects a clear lack of a systematic approach to solving issues.

This is all about control and lack of vision. It’s one of the most absurd developments in recent times and shows why sports, which is a science, cannot be effectively run by journalists, politicians, and others without relevant expertise.

How can selectors choose a playing XI remotely from Pakistan? They lack on-the-ground knowledge of what’s needed. Forcing selections without buy-in from the captain or coach will only create new problems.

If the goal was to give selectors more control, the captain and coach should also have a say in the final selection. They are the ones preparing the team and are ultimately held accountable for the results.
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It’s not about control – everyone knows Babar struggles against spin, so why are the captain and coach supporting his inclusion in the second test when they’re aware it’s going to be a spin-friendly pitch? Babar isn’t bigger than Pakistan. If Babar and Shaheen had played, we would’ve lost that game; that pitch wasn’t suited for them.
 
If a playing 11 is selected hours before the game, and a player picks up an injury during the warm up, or if conditions change overnight due to rain, would the captain really have to leave the field to call the selectors for approval? There are many situations where a captain needs to make quick decisions, but this process would hinder that ability because he isn’t allowed to proceed without consulting the selectors. This approach is impractical and would likely be reversed soon.
 
Like it or not, a captain has to have the biggest shaft in the team, otherwise it won’t work.
 
On the one hand you fans criticise this Dosti Yari culture where a captain picks his mates. On the other hand you criticise when the decision making is taken out of the captains hand. Of course it’s strange to have selectors choose the 11 but not unusual to give 15 players to the coach and captain to choose an 11 from. Let’s wait for official confirmation. Doesn’t seem right that Gillespie is sidelined in this way.
 
Next...PCB?
What have you got on the menu tomorrow?
Weekend special?
 
Not fan a of Azhar ali! He will bring Misbah’s son into the international side.. because when Azhar ali was no body . Misbah made him captain of our Odi team lol pathetic decision
 
emranabbas said:
It’s not about control – everyone knows Babar struggles against spin, so why are the captain and coach supporting his inclusion in the second test when they’re aware it’s going to be a spin-friendly pitch? Babar isn’t bigger than Pakistan. If Babar and Shaheen had played, we would’ve lost that game; that pitch wasn’t suited for them.
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You missed the core point. If the selectors believe that Babar and Shaheen need to be dropped from the XI, the solution isn’t to remove the captain and coach's right to select the final lineup. That just creates another problem while trying to solve an existing one.

Since the coach and captain have been appointed, they should be given the decision-making authority that comes with their roles and the accountability to deliver results. If they fail to perform after their term, then it makes sense to change the captain and coach—this is standard practice worldwide. If you appointed them, then give them the time and trust them. It’s these brain farts and impatience that has landed Pakistani cricket to absolute bottom.

The selectors' role is to select a squad, not to choose the playing XI, which is not how it works anywhere else in the world. There is a reason for it to be that way.
 
That is a pretty weird thing to be happening if it is true but it is also something that is new for this setup.

It could work if selectors are 100% sincere for which we cannot be given a guarantee. I hope if is true then it works in Pakistan's favor.

Jason will not be happy about this though.
 
Farabi said:
You missed the core point. If the selectors believe that Babar and Shaheen need to be dropped from the XI, the solution isn’t to remove the captain and coach's right to select the final lineup. That just creates another problem while trying to solve an existing one.

Since the coach and captain have been appointed, they should be given the decision-making authority that comes with their roles and the accountability to deliver results. If they fail to perform after their term, then it makes sense to change the captain and coach—this is standard practice worldwide. If you appointed them, then give them the time and trust them. It’s these brain farts and impatience that has landed Pakistani cricket to absolute bottom.

The selectors' role is to select a squad, not to choose the playing XI, which is not how it works anywhere else in the world. There is a reason for it to be that way.
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Not at all, I think you're jumping the gun.

First of all, it's based on reports. Nothing has been confirmed by the PCB; this could just be speculative news.

Secondly, consider the boardroom situation:

Five new selectors come in and decide that Babar, Naseem, and Shaheen won't be in the next game. The coach and captain disagree and want them in the game.

What are the selectors supposed to do—sack the captain in the middle of a series? Instead, they revoke the coach and captain from having the final say on the playing XI.

Had mohsin naqvi sacked the coach and captain in the middle of a series you would be the first one complaining
 
If it is true, it May conflict with the PCB's selection policy.

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As per reports:

To take on the captaincy, Mohammad Rizwan has set strict conditions, demanding authority over team selection and requesting specific players.

He wants complete authority during the Australia tour before taking on the heavy responsibility of captaincy.
 
BouncerGuy said:
If it is true, it May conflict with the PCB's selection policy.

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As per reports:

To take on the captaincy, Mohammad Rizwan has set strict conditions, demanding authority over team selection and requesting specific players.

He wants complete authority during the Australia tour before taking on the heavy responsibility of captaincy.
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Who does he want?

Khushdil and Iftikhar at all costs?
 
BouncerGuy said:
If it is true, it May conflict with the PCB's selection policy.

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As per reports:

To take on the captaincy, Mohammad Rizwan has set strict conditions, demanding authority over team selection and requesting specific players.

He wants complete authority during the Australia tour before taking on the heavy responsibility of captaincy.
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He probably wants Khushdil, Iftikhar and Abbas Afridi
 
Rumours that Fakhar would be dropped for Australia series as a punishment for tweeting against PCB 🤣.

Also reports suggest Mr. Rizwan is gonna be next captain. With him captain Pak should play some tournament related to comedy/circus too 😂
 
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