[Reports] PCB bans Afghanistan players from upcoming PSL Season

[Rana]

They reached the semi finals. Thats a fact.

Yeah I suppose Kenya’s 2003 World Cup team was better than Pakistan, New Zealand, England and West Indies too at the time?

 

[Rana]

So you want to fix politics with sports, admit it than.

Than next time dont bash india for mixing politics with sports when you are justifying it this time.

Like i said, this effects your leagues and how business is to be conducted in future. Psl franchisee should had the freedom to choose the players they want, and not the PCB deciding who would play and who wont

Damn right I do.

And no, I won’t bash india for mixing politics with sport anymore. I will just defile them anyways like I have been doing since May.

 

[Major]

Yeah I suppose Kenya’s 2003 World Cup team was better than Pakistan, New Zealand, England and West Indies too at the time?

I think you dont understand the argument here and as usual have gone off the rails.

 

[Rana]

I think you dont understand the argument here and as usual have gone off the rails.

Na I’m pretty sure I’ve knocked you off the rails here.

 

[Devadwal]

Yeah I suppose Kenya’s 2003 World Cup team was better than Pakistan, New Zealand, England and West Indies too at the time?

Afghanistan finish above Pakistan, Bangladesh, Lanka in 2023 world cup. They defeated Pakistan in that tournament in a One side contest.

Afghanistan finished above Pakistan, Bangladesh in 2025 champion trophy.

Afghanistan reached semifinal of 2024 World T20.

Three consecutive ICC tournament where they played better cricket than Pakistan, Bangladesh and Lanka.

 

[Devadwal]

Damn right I do.

And no, I won’t bash india for mixing politics with sport anymore. I will just defile them anyways like I have been doing since May.

By posting fake propaganda

 

[zaidihusain]

It would have been a far better strategy to see them surrender in PSL.

It could have defused their venom very quickly and easily.

But we did the usual Pakistan thing and jumped the gun, making rash decisions without thinking it.

So far I haven't seen a single statement from PCB or PSL Management regarding ban on Afghanistan cricketers. All statements & provocations to pull out from PSL came from Afghanistan. It's not PCB's responsibility to diffuse hatred that exist on Afghanistan side.

Honestly Sri Lanka & Bangladesh Cricket board are much more cordial with PCB.

PCB also has quite friendly relationship with SENA boards

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

No ‘chest-thumping nationalism here’ but I hope you are applying this twisted and misguided logic in your daily life.

No nationalist chest-thumping here, says the guy who just wrote a five line nationalist rant.

Don't worry about my daily life because that's none of your business. Focus on building some self-awareness since you clearly don't know what that even means

 

[zaidihusain]

What a person does on his social media bio is his personal decision.

Any person crying that that xyz removed pz from his insta bio is just being petty and acting like a teenage girl.

Lol, if i remove my religion from insta bio that means im not part of the religion?

PSL is a different thing. Its not upto the PCB to decide who should play and who should not. Its upto the franchisees to decide, who they want draft and who they dont want to.

If pcb starts to bar players from playing on the basis of nationality, that is discrimination and plus that hurts the franchisee aswell.

One of the reasons why foreign business owners will never invest in pakistan related companies is this reason.

Rashid deliberaty removed PZ from his X bio. He doesn't have courage to remove names of his IPL & BBL teams.

Self interest of Javed Afridi can never be above Pakistan cricket board or Pakistan. He can buy a team in Afghanistan League if he has special love for their players

 

[Ball Blazer]

What a person does on his social media bio is his personal decision.

Any person crying that that xyz removed pz from his insta bio is just being petty and acting like a teenage girl.

Lol, if i remove my religion from insta bio that means im not part of the religion?

PSL is a different thing. Its not upto the PCB to decide who should play and who should not. Its upto the franchisees to decide, who they want draft and who they dont want to.

If pcb starts to bar players from playing on the basis of nationality, that is discrimination and plus that hurts the franchisee aswell.

One of the reasons why foreign business owners will never invest in pakistan related companies is this reason.

Yes it was their personal decision not to play.

Why humiliate ourselves?

Plus, the religion stuff u mentioned does not align with removing team name from bios. At least sound sensible before commenting.

What does removing LQ from bio amid Pak-Afg tensions mean? And leaving rest of the teams as they are...

 

[Major]

Rashid deliberaty removed PZ from his X bio. He doesn't have courage to remove names of his IPL & BBL teams.

Self interest of Javed Afridi can never be above Pakistan cricket board or Pakistan. He can buy a team in Afghanistan League if he has special love for their players

So removing a team from the bio is a crime?

Its abit disturbing watching grown men going crazy over these things

 

[Major]

Yes it was their personal decision not to play.

Why humiliate ourselves?

Plus, the religion stuff u mentioned does not align with removing team name from bios. At least sound sensible before commenting.

What does removing LQ from bio amid Pak-Afg tensions mean? And leaving rest of the teams as they are...

Since when has removing info from a bio has become a serious issue?

These kind of issues are raised by teenage girls.....

Anyone can add or remove anything he wants from his insta bio, it means nothing.

 

[Major]

So far I haven't seen a single statement from PCB or PSL Management regarding ban on Afghanistan cricketers. All statements & provocations to pull out from PSL came from Afghanistan. It's not PCB's responsibility to diffuse hatred that exist on Afghanistan side.

Honestly Sri Lanka & Bangladesh Cricket board are much more cordial with PCB.

PCB also has quite friendly relationship with SENA boards

Pcb has had issues with BCB and sri lanka board aswell.

This is basically an example of politicians letting foreign policy spill over in sports. Till the time hasina wajida was in the govt, pakistan had issues with bcb.

South asian cricket boards are really crazy a bloc

 

[zaidihusain]

So removing a team from the bio is a crime?

Its abit disturbing watching grown men going crazy over these things

Let's suppose you are working for 3 clients and you have mentioned their names on your social media bio. But all of a sudden you remove name of one client for no reason. Don't you think you are insulting that client on public forum?

Its clear you want to disassociate yourself with that client, it's as simple as that.

 

[Major]

I wonder if a pakistani national was to remove his nationality from his insta profile, would that be consider as treason?

Racism really brings out the worst in our people

 

[Rana]

These kind of issues are raised by teenage girls.....

Yeah well we’ve taken notice and we have moved on!

Keep crying! Nahi chahiye Afghani snakes!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Let's suppose you are working for 3 clients and you have mentioned their names on your social media bio. But all of a sudden you remove name of one client for no reason. Don't you think you are insulting that client on public forum?

Its clear you want to disassociate yourself with that client, it's as simple as that.

Does that mean the client then refuses to hire people from the same country as the person who they believe criticised them?

 

[Major]

Let's suppose you are working for 3 clients and you have mentioned their names on your social media bio. But all of a sudden you remove name of one client for no reason. Don't you think you are insulting that client on public forum?

Its clear you want to disassociate yourself with that client, it's as simple as that.

The company i work for doesnt really care if i have mentioned them on my social media or even linkedin. Thats not their concern. Their concern is their own company doing well.

Infact, i work with investors and look through their social medias to add them in targeting reports. Alot of investors dont keep social media profiles or update them, and these are people working for companies like RBC, Desjardens, Mòrgan Stanley etc.

In the real world, companies dont operate like this. If an employer starts worrying whether his employee has not mentioned their association with that employee or client on social media, than that company has alot of issues and it wont be able to survive in the market.

This exactly shows how messed up PCB and its fans are if we go by this logic. Psl will never survive.

 

[zaidihusain]

Pcb has had issues with BCB and sri lanka board aswell.

This is basically an example of politicians letting foreign policy spill over in sports. Till the time hasina wajida was in the govt, pakistan had issues with bcb.

South asian cricket boards are really crazy a bloc

Still Sri Lankan players and their board have always carried themselves gracefully even after that horrific incident. Bangladesh players have always respected Pakistan cricket. The Afghans are totally classless, graceless & thankless. PERIOD

 

[Major]

Does that mean the client then refuses to hire people from the same country as the person who they believe criticised them?

I am imagining how some of our teenage adults posters here would behave if they worked in HR.

You have been fired from our company since you did not show on your facebook profile that you work at our organization. Since you are embarrassed in naming us as your employer we will be firing you, and would further be placing a ban on hiring anyone from your country...

The thinking around here really represents our country

 

[Ball Blazer]

I wonder if a pakistani national was to remove his nationality from his insta profile, would that be consider as treason?

Racism really brings out the worst in our people

You cannot compare a random national with a well-known cricket player....

 

[Ball Blazer]

Does that mean the client then refuses to hire people from the same country as the person who they believe criticised them?

state-level affairs do not work like that.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I am imagining how some of our teenage adults posters here would behave if they worked in HR.

You have been fired from our company since you did not show on your facebook profile that you work at our organization. Since you are embarrassed in naming us as your employer we will be firing you, and would further be placing a ban on hiring anyone from your country...

The thinking around here really represents our country

Actually it is quite sad.

We have said for a long time don't mix politics with sport in cricket.

But basically what many of our wants, is don't mix politics with sports for Pakistanis, but we would like to mix it when it suits us.

 

[Ball Blazer]

You cannot compare a random national with a well-known cricket player....

Whatever they do is noted and observed. Okay so as you are saying, married to Shoaib Malik should still be in Sania Mirza's bio because removing him from her bio does not indicate that he divorced her?? at least compare sensible things bro.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

state-level affairs do not work like that.

So you are happy that BJP government prefers non engagement with Pakistan, not to visit Pakistan, no Pakistani players in Indian leagues because it is a state level affair?

 

[Major]

Still Sri Lankan players and their board have always carried themselves gracefully even after that horrific incident. Bangladesh players have always respected Pakistan cricket. The Afghans are totally classless, graceless & thankless. PERIOD

No one has carried themselves with grace.

Its just our assumption.

Bangladesh board went crazy when they saw a bangladeshi cricketer speaking in urdu with our players/media. During their leagues they have often placed Pakistani players on bench.

Srilankan cricketers just recently ran away from Pakistan the first opportunity they got.

An australian cricketer broke a light and ran away mid psl. Yet we never placed a blanket ban on Australian cricketers.

Issue is, we like to look down on countries/board who we think are beneath us.

Politics will continue to exists, but that doesnt mean businesses should indulge in that politics. When foreign relations are better, would that start meaning those people love Pakistan now suddenly?

Its just politics that people react to

 

[CricVet]

Afghanistan finish above Pakistan, Bangladesh, Lanka in 2023 world cup. They defeated Pakistan in that tournament in a One side contest.

Afghanistan finished above Pakistan, Bangladesh in 2025 champion trophy.

Afghanistan reached semifinal of 2024 World T20.

Three consecutive ICC tournament where they played better cricket than Pakistan, Bangladesh and Lanka.

 

[Major]

You cannot compare a random national with a well-known cricket player....

Im applying the logic here


Thing is, in the real world, you dont make decisions on the basis of instagram bio. Reason? Because if in the real world we do such things, matters are taken to court and than penalties are applied if a company behaves in such way.

 

[Markhor]

Interesting to see people split on this.

Personally I support a temporary suspension not because Afghan players removed PSL from their bios (people nowadays seemingly treat social media activity like the white smoke from the Sistine Chapel), but on security grounds.

There's been several ugly incidents on and off the field in Pakistan-Afghanistan matches. Any altercation involving a Pakistani and Afghan player in the PSL will be viewed through the lens of the recent conflict, and could escalate into something that may derail the whole tournament.

Look at the farcical Asia Cup. It was unbelievably naive and complacent from the authorities to think Pakistan and India would play cordially only months after the worst armed conflict in decades. Politics overshadowed the cricket.

Once bilateral relations improve and the ceasefire holds, then Afghan players can be invited back.

 

[zaidihusain]

The company i work for doesnt really care if i have mentioned them on my social media or even linkedin. Thats not their concern. Their concern is their own company doing well.

Infact, i work with investors and look through their social medias to add them in targeting reports. Alot of investors dont keep social media profiles or update them, and these are people working for companies like RBC, Desjardens, Mòrgan Stanley etc.

In the real world, companies dont operate like this. If an employer starts worrying whether his employee has not mentioned their association with that employee or client on social media, than that company has alot of issues and it wont be able to survive in the market.

This exactly shows how messed up PCB and its fans are if we go by this logic. Psl will never survive.

Does that mean the client then refuses to hire people from the same country as the person who they believe criticised

Maybe I didn’t explain my example properly. If any individual openly ridicules a client and the client’s country of origin, he should not be considered at all. PCB cannot and should not roll out the red carpet for Afghanistan players.

If PCB follows this appeasement approach, then they might as well go all the way and organise a five-match Test series against Afghanistan just to keep them happy.

 

[topspin]

Stop using the “reached this final and that final” argument.

Pakistan’s 2022 team reached the final of the T20 World Cup.

That was one of the $hittest T20 team to play cricket in general. Absolute crap T20 players besides maybe Shaheen the bowler.

I don’t want to hear “they reached the semi final” nonsense anymore!

Facts!

It made a mockery of the tournament.

 

[topspin]

I wonder why @gazza619 is keeping quiet?

 

[zaidihusain]

No one has carried themselves with grace.

Its just our assumption.

Bangladesh board went crazy when they saw a bangladeshi cricketer speaking in urdu with our players/media. During their leagues they have often placed Pakistani players on bench.

Srilankan cricketers just recently ran away from Pakistan the first opportunity they got.

An australian cricketer broke a light and ran away mid psl. Yet we never placed a blanket ban on Australian cricketers.

Issue is, we like to look down on countries/board who we think are beneath us.

Politics will continue to exists, but that doesnt mean businesses should indulge in that politics. When foreign relations are better, would that start meaning those people love Pakistan now suddenly?

Its just politics that people react to

When did SLC & BCB cricketers posted anything against Pakistan? Yes there are issues every where but they carry themselves far better than Afghans

 

[RidiculousMan]

Afghanistan was the first one that pulled out of the Tri Series. Pakistan have the choice to retaliate in a way and I think they're just doing that.

 

[gazza619]

I wonder why @gazza619 is keeping quiet?

While I do enjoy a bit of light-hearted banter, I want to make it absolutely clear that I do not support any form of racism. Some comments have recently been made, specifically those about naan selling and other similar remarks, and I find them to be completely unacceptable and quite frankly, disgusting.

 

[zaidihusain]

Stop using the “reached this final and that final” argument.

Pakistan’s 2022 team reached the final of the T20 World Cup.

That was one of the $hittest T20 team to play cricket in general. Absolute crap T20 players besides maybe Shaheen the bowler.

I don’t want to hear “they reached the semi final” nonsense anymore!

Yes, who can forget that worst T20 team which reached final just by luck not because of performance. Pakistan miserably lost to India & Zimbabwe initially and just managed to qualify because SA lost to Netherlands in final league game. Even Shaheen performed badly, he got 17 runs in his 18th over against India and then Haris & Nawaz lost the game. Shaheen didn't even finish his quota of 4 overs in WC final, just bowled 2.1 overs.

The first over in a game against India was maiden played by Rizwan, then Iftikhar played legendary knock of 0(6) in WC final. That team was full of horrible T20 players

 

[topspin]

While I do enjoy a bit of light-hearted banter, I want to make it absolutely clear that I do not support any form of racism. Some comments have recently been made, specifically those about naan selling and other similar remarks, and I find them to be completely unacceptable and quite frankly, disgusting.

But what do you think about PCB's decision to ban Afghan players? This is what the thread is about.

I guess it's a delicate subject for you because some of those banned players may have formed part of your elusive 33.

 

[Snowflake]

The hilarious manner in which you are lashing out/foaming at the mouth just reinforces your desperation and the fact that your argument has no logical basis whatsoever. As far as I am concerned, you can keep resorting to personal attacks all you want, that won't change the fact that there is an obvious contradiction between someone criticizing India for politicizing cricket by associating Pakistan's cricket with the policies of the Pakistani state, and someone welcoming the idea of Pakistan banning Afghan players because of the policies/actions of the Afghan government.

If you want to play semantics by talking about how Afghan players pulled out of the tri-series, then I'll remind you that back in 2009, it was Pakistani players who actually pulled out of the IPL first. India chose to exclude Pakistani players from the IPL as a matter of policy much later. If India wanted they could have looked past that whole incident and let Pakistani players play in future IPL seasons, yet they still chose to politicize the issue. But this is not what this is about. Nobody is putting a gun to the head of any franchise to pick Afghan players. If you feel so strongly about them, don't pick them. If an Afghan player feels so strongly about Pakistan then they are welcome to not put their name in the draft. But if you, as a board decide to issue a statement banning their players from participating in the PSL then that is very obviously a political statement consistent with the policies/views of the Pakistani state and anyone with even a few functioning brain-cells can see that.

Also, I don’t really give a damn whether you think I’m trying to be wise or impartial. Unlike a lot of people here, I’m actually consistent with my opinions. And I value the sport of cricket far more than I value defending convenient double standards.

I don’t think I made any personal remark - all what I said was regarding the at hand.

You again just repeated the same thing even after I very clearly explained that the comparison of this action by the PCB is incomparable to what BCCI is doing.

Regarding 2009 IPL - Neither the Pakistan cricket board nor its players had any hand in pulling out from the IPL. It was government that barred the players from going to India due to the hostility and the unsafe environment created in India (even Pak artists were given deadlines to leave India).

As I said earlier, ACB has directly called out Pakistan as a sponsor of terrorism. Something PCB never did. Their players have made political remarks ON THE FIELD OF CRICKET against Pakistan. Something our players never did with India. And the most recent act of removing their connection with PSL on social media. Now, I do not know how clearer I can make it out for you, but hopefully this now shows you that it’s an apples to oranges comparison and there is no double standards - only a board that is defending its self respect.

 

[Snowflake]

Pipe down on the chest-thumping nationalism, because I really don't care. I watch cricket because I enjoy the sport of cricket. I don't watch cricket to see everything I have already seen in the news again. If you have trouble understanding that very basic and simple fact then you're not a real cricket fan to begin with

How can you tell someone that if they don’t understand why YOU watch cricket, they are not a real cricket fan?

 

[msb314]

Afghanistan finish above Pakistan, Bangladesh, Lanka in 2023 world cup. They defeated Pakistan in that tournament in a One side contest.

Afghanistan finished above Pakistan, Bangladesh in 2025 champion trophy.

Afghanistan reached semifinal of 2024 World T20.

Three consecutive ICC tournament where they played better cricket than Pakistan, Bangladesh and Lanka.

Fake news

Pakistan finished above Afghanistan in 2023 WC

 

[sweep_shot]

Fake news

Pakistan finished above Afghanistan in 2023 WC

Correct.

 

[Devadwal]

Afghanistan Thrashed Pakistan in 2023 World Cup .lol Afghanistan performance>>> Pakistan.

Pakistan finished above Afghanistan in 2023 WC

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Regarding 2009 IPL - Neither the Pakistan cricket board nor its players had any hand in pulling out from the IPL. It was government that barred the players from going to India due to the hostility and the unsafe environment created in India (even Pak artists were given deadlines to leave India).

As I said earlier, ACB has directly called out Pakistan as a sponsor of terrorism. Something PCB never did. Their players have made political remarks ON THE FIELD OF CRICKET against Pakistan. Something our players never did with India. And the most recent act of removing their connection with PSL on social media. Now, I do not know how clearer I can make it out for you, but hopefully this now shows you that it’s an apples to oranges comparison and there is no double standards - only a board that is defending its self respect.

Yes, you're right, our players never did anything political when playing against India ON THE FIELD OF CRICKET



It's only individuals like yourself who pay attention to something so insignificant as a player removing PSL's name from their Twitter bio. The fact that this is a serious point that you are bringing up just sums up how stupid this whole issue is. Who cares? Are you 15? This is the kind of stuff that would be a topic of discussion among my friends if I was in high-school.

Anyway, there's no point going around in circles, since it's quite obvious that you are incapable of seeing the even more obvious contradiction in your argument. As far as I am concerned, y'all can keep acting like a bunch of nationalist clowns, just don't cry next time India politicizes the game of cricket, because I will call all of you out on it.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

How can you tell someone that if they don’t understand why YOU watch cricket, they are not a real cricket fan?

I had to read that three times and I still can’t figure out what you were trying to say. Might be worth running it through ChatGPT next time, since punctuation is clearly not your strong suit.

 

[GOSH11]

Besides Rashid Khan and Noor Ahmed, which Afghan player are PCB franchises dying to buy?

They are ok players with moments of good performances. Stop over glorifying them! Misbah started this trend in Pakistan by over promoting them as a strong unit and it has sat psychologically in most of the players, although they are just decent cricketers and Pakistan produces far better Seamers and batters than them. Pakistan have started to give their spinners more importance too and now even Pakistan spinners are producing the goods.

We are a far, far superior cricket nation than Afghanistan will ever be. We will keep them below us and far below us now going forward! That’s where they belong!

SPot on again @Rana

I do not get this overinflation of the Aghan players- they are minnows, really that simple and before anyone pipes uo, every dog has its day and there are upsets but they are minnows.

 

[GOSH11]

Yeah I suppose Kenya’s 2003 World Cup team was better than Pakistan, New Zealand, England and West Indies too at the time?

Now, that is a checkmate and a smackdown layeth in onw post...

 

[Suleiman]

Interesting to see people split on this.

Personally I support a temporary suspension not because Afghan players removed PSL from their bios (people nowadays seemingly treat social media activity like the white smoke from the Sistine Chapel), but on security grounds.

There's been several ugly incidents on and off the field in Pakistan-Afghanistan matches. Any altercation involving a Pakistani and Afghan player in the PSL will be viewed through the lens of the recent conflict, and could escalate into something that may derail the whole tournament.

Look at the farcical Asia Cup. It was unbelievably naive and complacent from the authorities to think Pakistan and India would play cordially only months after the worst armed conflict in decades. Politics overshadowed the cricket.

Once bilateral relations improve and the ceasefire holds, then Afghan players can be invited back.

Only post I wholly agree with in the entire thread.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

What cricket is happening during IPL and PSL?

The main Afghan players will play IPL.

The ones not picked will spend time with family and relax.

There are T20 leagues all around the year. They make plenty of money playing useless T20.

Afghanistan pulled out of Tri Series. They were not coming anyway. Too much political tension between the countries.

 

[GOSH11]

The main Afghan players will play IPL.

The ones not picked will spend time with family and relax.

There are T20 leagues all around the year. They make plenty of money playing useless T20.

Afghanistan pulled out of Tri Series. They were not coming anyway. Too much political tension between the countries.

No loss to PSL.

Playing leagues all across the world is excellent and certainly helps when playing Ireland, Nepal or Mongolia and then showing such prowess and immense pride at BRAVELY defeating such cricketing titans.

 

[Snowflake]

Yes, you're right, our players never did anything political when playing against India ON THE FIELD OF CRICKET

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It's only individuals like yourself who pay attention to something so insignificant as a player removing PSL's name from their Twitter bio. The fact that this is a serious point that you are bringing up just sums up how stupid this whole issue is. Who cares? Are you 15? This is the kind of stuff that would be a topic of discussion among my friends if I was in high-school.

Anyway, there's no point going around in circles, since it's quite obvious that you are incapable of seeing the even more obvious contradiction in your argument. As far as I am concerned, y'all can keep acting like a bunch of nationalist clowns, just don't cry next time India politicizes the game of cricket, because I will call all of you out on it.

The picture you have posted is AFTER the handshake l and no picture fiasco instigated by the Indians. Again, only reactionary.

So, you keep repeating the same logic again and again while I keep debunking it and I am the one incapable of seeing contradictions? You’ve got your head in the sand and are incapable of accepting that Pakistan never brought in politics in the first place and has always reacted to when others have done so.

No need to be so dheet - accepting the truth when someone else puts it in front of you doesn’t make you weak or small.

You can call me whatever you want - doesn’t make a difference. But I surely am not someone who will compromise on self respect just to project myself morally superior

 

[Snowflake]

I had to read that three times and I still can’t figure out what you were trying to say. Might be worth running it through ChatGPT next time, since punctuation is clearly not your strong suit.

ChatGPT or punctuation won’t help you - reading your own senseless post might though.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Who cares if they play or not... PCB cares??? No...

Lq played without Rashid so I don't think they will die for him... Who else??

No one is that important.

 

[Snowflake]

Yes, you're right, our players never did anything political when playing against India ON THE FIELD OF CRICKET

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It's only individuals like yourself who pay attention to something so insignificant as a player removing PSL's name from their Twitter bio. The fact that this is a serious point that you are bringing up just sums up how stupid this whole issue is. Who cares? Are you 15? This is the kind of stuff that would be a topic of discussion among my friends if I was in high-school.

Anyway, there's no point going around in circles, since it's quite obvious that you are incapable of seeing the even more obvious contradiction in your argument. As far as I am concerned, y'all can keep acting like a bunch of nationalist clowns, just don't cry next time India politicizes the game of cricket, because I will call all of you out on it.

Also, social media bio was only one example of the ACB/Afghan players involving politics in the sports. Well done side stepping all the other examples Or did you need more punctuation to understand what they meant?

 

[Snowflake]

I had to read that three times and I still can’t figure out what you were trying to say. Might be worth running it through ChatGPT next time, since punctuation is clearly not your strong suit.

Okay, so I really did not want to do this but just because you asked, here's me running my response through ChatGPT.

Oh, and I did you a solid with number 3... now you don't have to press your brain for the 4th time to understand what I meant:

Input to ChatGPT:

Below is a conversation between 3 people. Person A, Person B and Person C.

Person B says to Person A: “Pipe down on the chest-thumping nationalism, because I really don't care. I watch cricket because I enjoy the sport of cricket. I don't watch cricket to see everything I have already seen in the news again. If you have trouble understanding that very basic and simple fact then you're not a real cricket fan to begin with”

Person C responds to Person B: “How can you tell someone that if they don’t understand why YOU watch cricket, they are not a real cricket fan?”

My question regarding the above conversation js 3 parts, so please answer one by one:

1) Do you see anything wrong with the writing mechanics of Person C’s response to Person B?

2) Is person C’s response difficult to understand?

3) How would you explain Person C’s response to Person B?

ChatGPT Output:

Here are the answers to your three questions, one by one:

⸻

1) Do you see anything wrong with the writing mechanics of Person C’s response to Person B?

Person C’s sentence is mechanically fine.
• The grammar is correct.
• The punctuation works.
• The meaning is clear.

If anything, the sentence could be slightly smoother by removing “that” or rearranging the wording, but this is a matter of style, not correctness. Mechanically, there is nothing wrong with it.

⸻

2) Is Person C’s response difficult to understand?

No.
The response is clear and straightforward. Person C is questioning the logic of Person B’s statement: specifically, the part where Person B claims someone “isn’t a real cricket fan” simply because they don’t share Person B’s personal reason for watching cricket.

⸻

3) How would you explain Person C’s response to Person B?

Person C is pointing out an inconsistency or unfair assumption in Person B’s comment.
Here’s the idea in plain terms:

Person B said that if someone doesn’t understand why they personally watch cricket, then that person “isn’t a real fan.”
Person C is challenging this by asking:

“How can you decide someone’s status as a fan based on whether they understand your personal preference for watching cricket?”

In other words, Person C is saying it doesn’t make sense for Person B to judge someone’s authenticity as a cricket fan using their own personal motives as the standard.

It’s basically calling out a flawed or self-centered argument.

If you want, I can also help rewrite Person C’s response in different tones (polite, firm, sarcastic, etc.).

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I genuinely feel bad taking you down like this in front of everyone, but next time, don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

 

[NishanKonar]

With so many leagues around - dont think Afghan players really care whether they are banned from PSL

PSL will just have smaller pool to choose - but key guys wud anyways be playing in IPL

Bit of much ado about nothing

 

[Major]

Who cares if they play or not... PCB cares??? No...

Lq played without Rashid so I don't think they will die for him... Who else??

No one is that important.

Business men investing money in the PSL cares. Stakeholders involved in this business they care.

By banning players, basically you are telling PSL teams that PCB decides who gets to play and who doesnt. The PSL player market needs to be free from any intervention, where the PSL teams get to decide who they want to pick and who they dont want to pick.

LQ used a draft pick and kept Rashid on a retainer even when they didnt play him. That is LQ's investment being wasted when PCB decides that lets ban an Afghan player. If LQ had known this they would had not wasted a draft pick or its own money on a player that would get banned by the PCB on the basis of foreign relations.

Plus, this is happening during a time when PCB is trying to attract foreign investors for the sale of 3 PSL teams. The fact that PCB is conducting road shows in UK, it shows that PCB is looking for some serious capital. However, foreign business investors avoid businesses and events where the rulings and laws are fragile.

Plus, this is also discrimination, and allowing discrimination to exists in PSL is going to be problematic.

 

[Rana]

With so many leagues around - dont think Afghan players really care whether they are banned from PSL

Good. We don’t care either.

Thanks.

 

[Kianig89]

Who cares PCB have David Wiese for eternity!

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

ChatGPT or punctuation won’t help you - reading your own senseless post might though.

Okay, so I really did not want to do this but just because you asked, here's me running my response through ChatGPT.

Oh, and I did you a solid with number 3... now you don't have to press your brain for the 4th time to understand what I meant:

Input to ChatGPT:

Below is a conversation between 3 people. Person A, Person B and Person C.

Person B says to Person A: “Pipe down on the chest-thumping nationalism, because I really don't care. I watch cricket because I enjoy the sport of cricket. I don't watch cricket to see everything I have already seen in the news again. If you have trouble understanding that very basic and simple fact then you're not a real cricket fan to begin with”

Person C responds to Person B: “How can you tell someone that if they don’t understand why YOU watch cricket, they are not a real cricket fan?”

My question regarding the above conversation js 3 parts, so please answer one by one:

1) Do you see anything wrong with the writing mechanics of Person C’s response to Person B?

2) Is person C’s response difficult to understand?

3) How would you explain Person C’s response to Person B?

ChatGPT Output:

Here are the answers to your three questions, one by one:

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1) Do you see anything wrong with the writing mechanics of Person C’s response to Person B?

Person C’s sentence is mechanically fine.
• The grammar is correct.
• The punctuation works.
• The meaning is clear.

If anything, the sentence could be slightly smoother by removing “that” or rearranging the wording, but this is a matter of style, not correctness. Mechanically, there is nothing wrong with it.

⸻

2) Is Person C’s response difficult to understand?

No.
The response is clear and straightforward. Person C is questioning the logic of Person B’s statement: specifically, the part where Person B claims someone “isn’t a real cricket fan” simply because they don’t share Person B’s personal reason for watching cricket.

⸻

3) How would you explain Person C’s response to Person B?

Person C is pointing out an inconsistency or unfair assumption in Person B’s comment.
Here’s the idea in plain terms:

Person B said that if someone doesn’t understand why they personally watch cricket, then that person “isn’t a real fan.”
Person C is challenging this by asking:

“How can you decide someone’s status as a fan based on whether they understand your personal preference for watching cricket?”

In other words, Person C is saying it doesn’t make sense for Person B to judge someone’s authenticity as a cricket fan using their own personal motives as the standard.

It’s basically calling out a flawed or self-centered argument.

If you want, I can also help rewrite Person C’s response in different tones (polite, firm, sarcastic, etc.).

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I genuinely feel bad taking you down like this in front of everyone, but next time, don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The picture you have posted is AFTER the handshake l and no picture fiasco instigated by the Indians. Again, only reactionary.

So, you keep repeating the same logic again and again while I keep debunking it and I am the one incapable of seeing contradictions? You’ve got your head in the sand and are incapable of accepting that Pakistan never brought in politics in the first place and has always reacted to when others have done so.

No need to be so dheet - accepting the truth when someone else puts it in front of you doesn’t make you weak or small.

You can call me whatever you want - doesn’t make a difference. But I surely am not someone who will compromise on self respect just to project myself morally superior

Okay, then why do you insist flogging a dead horse when I have exposed your argument and made it clear that it has zero logical basis whatsoever? For every argument of yours that I debunk you reply but some weird semantic quip, "BUT that happened after the whole handshake incident", who cares? Pakistan still hand a hand in politicizing the game. You can turn this issue into an issue of self-respect (LOL) or whatever, but really this is just about being consistent, and how certain individuals are okay calling hypocrisy when the other side is involved, but start playing mental gymnastics when their own side is involved.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Our region will only see stupidity, hatred and persobality worship prosper.

 

[Varun]

Agree.

Cricket was lovely when England was controlling it.

It became unstable after ICC became BCCICC.

In both versions, Bangladesh are ForeverMinnows (TM).

 

[Snowflake]

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I mean, you can compare our inputs and see who is one losing it lol

Also, what kind of third rate AI is that? I literally did what you asked me to do and it gave me the output you saw.

If you are still going on about it… it’s pretty desperate

 

[Snowflake]

Okay, then why do you insist flogging a dead horse when I have exposed your argument and made it clear that it has zero logical basis whatsoever? For every argument of yours that I debunk you reply but some weird semantic quip, "BUT that happened after the whole handshake incident", who cares? Pakistan still hand a hand in politicizing the game. You can turn this issue into an issue of self-respect (LOL) or whatever, but really this is just about being consistent, and how certain individuals are okay calling hypocrisy when the other side is involved, but start playing mental gymnastics when their own side is involved.

Are you high or something? Or are you just on a repeat everything back to me spree?

Give me one argument that YOU have debunked. Since the first post, I have maintained that Pak has always REACTED to both Afghanistan and India politicizing the game - I responded to every single occasion where you claimed Pak was the one politicizing. How in the world are you the one debunking anything?

You have just been covering your eyes and ears and yelling the same thing again and again because you know you have got nothing.

How did Pakistan have a hand in making Asia Cup political when BCCI gave instructions to players not to shake hands and not to take photos together? Even if Pak hadn’t reacted, Asia cup would still be political!

Same logic for what ACB has done in the past. How can a board call your country terrorist, players remove links to the tournament you’ve hosted them for… and when you react you are the one politicizing it? That’s just some thick headedness!

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I mean, you can compare our inputs and see who is one losing it lol

Also, what kind of third rate AI is that? I literally did what you asked me to do and it gave me the output you saw.

If you are still going on about it… it’s pretty desperate

"what kind of third rate AI is that? I literally did what you asked me to do and it gave me the output you saw."

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Give me one argument that YOU have debunked. Since the first post, I have maintained that Pak has always REACTED to both Afghanistan and India politicizing the game - I responded to every single occasion where you claimed Pak was the one politicizing. How in the world are you the one debunking anything?

So you finally admitted that Pakistan was reactionary after incessantly questioning me about how Pakistan was reactionary. There you go, now was that so difficult to admit?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Are you high or something? Or are you just on a repeat everything back to me spree?

Give me one argument that YOU have debunked. Since the first post, I have maintained that Pak has always REACTED to both Afghanistan and India politicizing the game - I responded to every single occasion where you claimed Pak was the one politicizing. How in the world are you the one debunking anything?

You have just been covering your eyes and ears and yelling the same thing again and again because you know you have got nothing.

How did Pakistan have a hand in making Asia Cup political when BCCI gave instructions to players not to shake hands and not to take photos together? Even if Pak hadn’t reacted, Asia cup would still be political!

Same logic for what ACB has done in the past. How can a board call your country terrorist, players remove links to the tournament you’ve hosted them for… and when you react you are the one politicizing it? That’s just some thick headedness!

It's genuinely hilarious how quickly you resort to personal attacks the moment I put you in your place, and then you act like you are innocent and never said anything like that. You seem to suffer from a serious case of cognitive dissonance, and the more you open your mouth, the more evident it becomes.

I am going to keep repeating everything back to you until you get it through your thick head that no matter how much you blabber and how many long paragraphs you write, you won't change my opinion on this. Because unlike you, my opinion on this has been consistent and principled throughout. I haven't needed to do mental gymnastics to justify every little thing. The smart thing for you to do would be to buzz off and leave well enough alone.

Last thing I'll say, because I feel this entire debate is a massive waste of my time, and also because I don't respect you as an individual or your opinions:

Once India chose to politicize the game, Pakistan could have let the ICC take its actions, sanctioned Suryakumar Yadav, and then responded with an official statement about how it is a travesty that India decided to politicize the game, but that Pakistan is above such behavior and won't do the same. If they don't want to shake hands. that's fine; they can go to hell. They are ones who lack sportsmanship, not us.

Had Pakistan done that, they would have had the moral high ground. Above all, India would have been singled out as the entity politicizing the game. But Pakistan didn't do that. They doubled down on everything and, as a result, became a laughing stock of the cricketing world by stuff like making the match referee the scapegoat and asking him to be removed, only for that request to be turned down. Not to mention Haris Rauf gesturing to the Indian fans, only to get smashed by Tilak Varma in the final… I don't think I need to go on. Oh yeah, there was also the instance of Naqvi making political tweets while being the President of the ACC.

 

[Snowflake]

"what kind of third rate AI is that? I literally did what you asked me to do and it gave me the output you saw."

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that’s a strong retort

If you literally have to call me names and spell out for ChatGPT what you want to hear… you’ve already lost the battle

Check out my input where I just wrote down everything word by word without trying to elicit a specific response. But I get it, that response from ChatGPT was a total takedown and it’s unfair to expect you not to be rattled after

 

[Snowflake]

So you finally admitted that Pakistan was reactionary after incessantly questioning me about how Pakistan was reactionary. There you go, now was that so difficult to admit?

Okay now this is at a point where it’s a little concerning - you are either THAT thick headed or just acting stupid.

In my very first post I clearly mentioned that PCB has never instigated bringing politics into the game - a fact I still stand by. So, what’s new here? Yes, we have reacted but it’s still not comparable.

Comparison to BCCI and ACB is flawed because neither our board nor our players have made any statements against either India or Afghanistan without provocation. ACB literally called your country a sponsor of terror and you think us banning them from our local tournament is an apples to apples response

 

[Snowflake]

It's genuinely hilarious how quickly you resort to personal attacks the moment I put you in your place, and then you act like you are innocent and never said anything like that. You seem to suffer from a serious case of cognitive dissonance, and the more you open your mouth, the more evident it becomes.

I am going to keep repeating everything back to you until you get it through your thick head that no matter how much you blabber and how many long paragraphs you write, you won't change my opinion on this. Because unlike you, my opinion on this has been consistent and principled throughout. I haven't needed to do mental gymnastics to justify every little thing. The smart thing for you to do would be to buzz off and leave well enough alone.

Last thing I'll say, because I feel this entire debate is a massive waste of my time, and also because I don't respect you as an individual or your opinions:

Once India chose to politicize the game, Pakistan could have let the ICC take its actions, sanctioned Suryakumar Yadav, and then responded with an official statement about how it is a travesty that India decided to politicize the game, but that Pakistan is above such behavior and won't do the same. If they don't want to shake hands. that's fine; they can go to hell. They are ones who lack sportsmanship, not us.

Had Pakistan done that, they would have had the moral high ground. Above all, India would have been singled out as the entity politicizing the game. But Pakistan didn't do that. They doubled down on everything and, as a result, became a laughing stock of the cricketing world by stuff like making the match referee the scapegoat and asking him to be removed, only for that request to be turned down. Not to mention Haris Rauf gesturing to the Indian fans, only to get smashed by Tilak Varma in the final… I don't think I need to go on. Oh yeah, there was also the instance of Naqvi making political tweets while being the President of the ACC.

We’ve got the entire back and forth on record and anyone with basic comprehension skills can see who has been making more personal remarks.

I’m not here for your respect, so you can stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. I don’t post with your permission, so I don’t need you to tell me what to do. The kind of epic take down that ChatGPT served you was clearly enough to get those wires crossed in your head lol! Next time come up with a suggestion that doesn’t make you fall on your face Mr “I read it three times and still couldn’t understand”.

I even had you calling me names while chatting to AI - that’s how rattled you were

Now, regarding what you what Pak should’ve done in Asia Cup is your opinion and what you say would’ve happened is purely conjecture. No point in debating something that you just pulled out of your backside.

I have no interest in debating you but it was fun knocking a few screws loose in your head. Now go to the AI bot and call me some more names - you need that therapy.

 

[Kianig89]

So as per reports , AFG players Unsold in BBL and IPL, wonder whats the update on SAt20, they shoot themselves at their foot by disowning their PSL affiliations

 

[Devadwal]

The PSL is left with only low-quality players to choose from after the IPL auction, so the absence of Afghanistan players will hurt the PSL.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The PSL is left with only low-quality players to choose from after the IPL auction, so the absence of Afghanistan players will hurt the PSL.

There's a reason Afghan players weren't picked in the IPL and that's because alot of them are not really good picks. Nabi is over-the-hill and too old, Gurbaz has been terrible with the bat this year, Mujeeb is finished, Omarzai was already retained by Punjab, and Rashid and Noor have been retained too. Keeping the political reasons aside (which I don't agree with), PSL is not missing out on anything.

 

[RidiculousMan]

So as per reports , AFG players Unsold in BBL and IPL, wonder whats the update on SAt20, they shoot themselves at their foot by disowning their PSL affiliations

Pakistan would actually benefit from Afghan players. The overseas pool for PSL 11 thus far is not looking too promising. 2 new teams are coming as well.

 

[Devadwal]

There's a reason Afghan players weren't picked in the IPL and that's because alot of them are not really good picks. Nabi is over-the-hill and too old, Gurbaz has been terrible with the bat this year, Mujeeb is finished, Omarzai was already retained by Punjab, and Rashid and Noor have been retained too. Keeping the political reasons aside (which I don't agree with), PSL is not missing out on anything.

But the PSL can only pick players who have been rejected by the IPL franchises and surely these Afghan players will be better than domestic players from the SENA country's.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

But the PSL can only pick players who have been rejected by the IPL franchises and surely these Afghan players will be better than domestic players from the SENA country's.

There are alot of good players who don't get picked in the IPL - doesn't mean they are "rejected"

Also yes, most T20 franchises would happily take lesser known domestic players from SENA countries who are in form, as opposed to well-known Afghan players who are out of form

 

[hassan918]

But the PSL can only pick players who have been rejected by the IPL franchises and surely these Afghan players will be better than domestic players from the SENA country's.

It generally happens but not 100%. You can take Faf as an example.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

There are alot of good players who don't get picked in the IPL - doesn't mean they are "rejected"

Also yes, most T20 franchises would happily take lesser known domestic players from SENA countries who are in form, as opposed to well-known Afghan players who are out of form

Agreed. A lot of good players are overlooked by IPL franchises in the auction, and they spend aggressively on average players.

 

[Katwalindian]

Agreed. A lot of good players are overlooked by IPL franchises in the auction, and they spend aggressively on average players.

Which average players?

 

[Devadwal]

It generally happens but not 100%. You can take Faf as an example.

Faf IPL career is over. He was sold at his base price last time, and only one franchise bid for him. He took a lesson from Warner and retired from the IPL rather than remain unsold.