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Respect to Iran! We are proud of you and in awe of your resolve!

oatmeal said:
dont think Iran came out on top here. A lot of scientists and IRGC top brass were assassinated and many of their TELs were taken out by Israel. Fordow damage is unclear but it sets the facility back by at least an year even if the damage didnt destroy everything.

Only thing they showed was Israel's iron dome isnt really that effective against ballistic missiles and intercepting against barrages of drones and missiles in a convential war cant be kept up for too long. If Iran had kept their launchers and air defense safe they could have done a lot of damage to Israel in those 10 days

Foreign policy wise, neither Russia nor china really came to their aid except for statements. They helped Russia directly in their war in ukraine but Russia didnt return the favour
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It's a fair clue that Iran wouldn't come out on top of a war when it's the other side which is trying to instigate it. Usually the warmongers are the ones who think they will win it. If Iran wanted war they would have struck israel first directly. For Iran it is a war of defence and survival, they will want to get their defences to a level where they can't be hit at whim by any country which wants complete dominance over the region. For israel they are the ones who need complete dominance, hence they have spent half a century getting their neighbours bombed into submission.
 
Israel were clearly running out of defensive measures to stop missiles. Anyone telling you different is an obviously a fool.

A tiny country cannot withstand such targeted attacks, Isreal cannot fight a long war against an enemy that is armed.

Trump saved them but how long can this entity with hostile neighbours really last in the Middle East?
 
Boyka said:
Israel were clearly running out of defensive measures to stop missiles. Anyone telling you different is an obviously a fool.

A tiny country cannot withstand such targeted attacks, Isreal cannot fight a long war against an enemy that is armed.

Trump saved them but how long can this entity with hostile neighbours really last in the Middle East?
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Even the US has depleted its reserves whilst taking down Iranian Missiles.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
It's a fair clue that Iran wouldn't come out on top of a war when it's the other side which is trying to instigate it. Usually the warmongers are the ones who think they will win it. If Iran wanted war they would have struck israel first directly. For Iran it is a war of defence and survival, they will want to get their defences to a level where they can't be hit at whim by any country which wants complete dominance over the region. For israel they are the ones who need complete dominance, hence they have spent half a century getting their neighbours bombed into submission.
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Iran will learn from this but they need to solve the problem of internal sabateours. Mossad has a lot of agents on the ground in Iran supplying them intelligence and carrying out ops.

Also they will need to buy a lot of missile launchers as Israel destroyed 60% of their launchers in the first few days of the war. You can have huge missile stockpiles but they are useless without having launchers.

And they need to rethink their air defense. Iranian missile penetration rate was 7-8%, Israelis were getting 40-50% easily and not a single Israeli jet was shot down. Russian air defense is seriously bad, they would be better off buying hardware from the Chinese instead
 
Rana said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1937553819803480283

@straighttalk

“But but saar! Iranian military heads killed saar!”
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Ya you have to get the narrative ready for the next strike..push them back years at a time ...degrade the capacity..

Get the terrorists Hamas and Hezbollah
Depose off assad
Kill the Iranian generals and scientist
Bomb the nuke sites

Then hit again..
Step by step ...one at a time without a massive hit that is decapitating and avoid civilian losses...

You tell me other than avoiding total regime change..what did Iran achieve..just one thing ...they can't even protect their jehadi guests of honor
 
straighttalk said:
Ya you have to get the narrative ready for the next strike..push them back years at a time ...degrade the capacity..

Get the terrorists Hamas and Hezbollah
Depose off assad
Kill the Iranian generals and scientist
Bomb the nuke sites

Then hit again..
Step by step ...one at a time without a massive hit that is decapitating and avoid civilian losses...

You tell me other than avoiding total regime change..what did Iran achieve..just one thing ...they can't even protect their jehadi guests of honor
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Well, the narrative was that “Iran is weeks away from building a nuclear bomb”

By next year, it’s clearly too late isn’t it?

Iran will have its bomb and nothing can be done about it.

So then try and make sense of it again.
 
Rana said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1937803443160109482

@straighttalk what’s this?

Your motherland Israel getting banged, whilst Iranian foreign minister in talks with Putin…
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First of all Israel ain't my motherland...they are just another country fighting a country that is quite friendly to India..whole world saw some.iranian missiles hitting Israel...the world is not blind..what are the total casualties in Israel...how many military leaders and scientists died..did Bibi go into hiding like supreme leader...did tehran achieve air dominance over tal Aviv..did they bomb their nuke sites.......just hitting and. Killing civilians isn't strategic ..it's lashing out when you can't hit anything or value....
 
Rana said:
Well, the narrative was that “Iran is weeks away from building a nuclear bomb”

By next year, it’s clearly too late isn’t it?

Iran will have its bomb and nothing can be done about it.

So then try and make sense of it again.
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I have heard Iran is making. A bomb since Obama tiem.....they ain't making. **** unless the second Islamic bomb is also gifted by China..at least iran HAD nuclear scientist of repute and an engineering culture that they can operate and maintain the devices and won't need Chinese engineers but Israel has been reducing that number too
 
Rana said:
Well, the narrative was that “Iran is weeks away from building a nuclear bomb”

By next year, it’s clearly too late isn’t it?

Iran will have its bomb and nothing can be done about it.

So then try and make sense of it again.
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Deal if Iran. has a bomb before December 2026... I take back my word and accept Israel failed in their objective...can't say Iran won as they got hit badly but accept that they fooled Israel and met their strategic goal and the future calculus is different.
 
straighttalk said:
First of all Israel ain't my motherland...they are just another country fighting a country that is quite friendly to India..whole world saw some.iranian missiles hitting Israel...the world is not blind..what are the total casualties in Israel...how many military leaders and scientists died..did Bibi go into hiding like supreme leader...did tehran achieve air dominance over tal Aviv..did they bomb their nuke sites.......just hitting and. Killing civilians isn't strategic ..it's lashing out when you can't hit anything or value....
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“Israel achieving air dominance over Iran….”

Even Somalia would achieve air dominance over Iran if Somalia are not sanctioned and have 5th gen fighters. That’s not a strong argument. That’s like 2 grown men (Isreal and USA) fighting against an old man with one of his hands tied.

You only followed the war from the lens that suited you.

-Iran did strike Isreali military sites
-Iran did hit strategic sites such as Parliamentary buildings, economic hubs, Mossad HQ
-Iran also hit nuclear sites of Israel

Then again, you will deny all of this because it’s not from the lens you wish to view it from.

Khumeni went into hiding? So he was a genuine target? You wanted Israel to kill the spiritual leader of millions of Shias across the world? Why?? Because he doesn’t allow women to publicize them like West world.

Israeli Pm and their military leaders were out roaming in public and not in bunkers????

What bloody world are you living in???
 
straighttalk said:
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What are the silly emojis for?
It was reported in the US Media yesterday.
The General admitted to depleting stocks due to the defence of Isreal in his meeting at the Pentagon.
Doesn't mean that they don't have enough to defend themselves, and he even admitted that. BUT two things stand out..
1. The Isreali's needed the states to shoot down Iranian missiles; 2. this is another cost that the USA just doesn't need at the moment.
 
straighttalk said:
Deal if Iran. has a bomb before December 2026... I take back my word and accept Israel failed in their objective...can't say Iran won as they got hit badly but accept that they fooled Israel and met their strategic goal and the future calculus is different.
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Your flip flopping.

What’s the narrative which the US/Israel used to bomb Iran?

Were they weeks away from a nuclear bomb or not?
 
According to @straighttalk

Isreali PM Netanyahu and his military leaders were roaming out in public and not hiding in bunkers or in undisclosed locations…

And the Iranian military chose not to do revenge strikes against them…

Sound like bollox?
 
deltexas said:
Why ? Ask the Islamic mullahs and Khomenei that. They repeatedly made those statements and now when s*** hits the ceiling, they want a ceasefire LOL .. What happened to their river to the sea type of conquest where they will eliminate the satan US off the map.. As Nasser Hussain says, talk is cheap. And regarding british raj - dude thats ancient history. The current gen has nothing to do with it. History should be a guide for making a better future thats all.
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That’s very subjective…of course.

Depends on the subject and individual ..
 
Rana said:
According to @straighttalk

Isreali PM Netanyahu and his military leaders were roaming out in public and not hiding in bunkers or in undisclosed locations…

And the Iranian military chose not to do revenge strikes against them…

Sound like bollox?
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Yes .he was giving speeches

.was directing the response...where was ayotollah..he was incommunicado when Iran fm was trying. To get a deal going with trump
 
Rana said:
Your flip flopping.

What’s the narrative which the US/Israel used to bomb Iran?

Were they weeks away from a nuclear bomb or not?
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Am I or you dont have the guts to strike the deal or take the bet. You clearly said one year is not too late and you are confident Iran will have the bomb. I am increasing the time to 1.5 years and asking you let's see if Iran makes a bomb. They will obviously try and will be bombed to oblivion or they will sign a treaty and that's it. Better idea is to sign a treaty and do it clandestine way. Will see. If they cannot make the bomb in 2 years..that means they are delayed and th bombing was effective. When they get close against..Israel will have to take steps.
 
Rana said:
Your flip flopping.

What’s the narrative which the US/Israel used to bomb Iran?

Were they weeks away from a nuclear bomb or not?
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Yup weeks away and now not weeks away. And due to the effective bombing acc to me they can't get it in 1 year as your are claiming. Where is the flip flop..take the challenge and we can revisit in 2 years..let's say June 2027. Happy..make it easier for you to win.
 
Rana said:
“Israel achieving air dominance over Iran….”

Even Somalia would achieve air dominance over Iran if Somalia are not sanctioned and have 5th gen fighters. That’s not a strong argument. That’s like 2 grown men (Isreal and USA) fighting against an old man with one of his hands tied.

You only followed the war from the lens that suited you.

-Iran did strike Isreali military sites
-Iran did hit strategic sites such as Parliamentary buildings, economic hubs, Mossad HQ
-Iran also hit nuclear sites of Israel

Then again, you will deny all of this because it’s not from the lens you wish to view it from.

Khumeni went into hiding? So he was a genuine target? You wanted Israel to kill the spiritual leader of millions of Shias across the world? Why?? Because he doesn’t allow women to publicize them like West world.

Israeli Pm and their military leaders were out roaming in public and not in bunkers????

What bloody world are you living in???
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Israel achieved air dominance is a fact...you are giving a reason. I am not saying Israelinpeope. Are superior. No one is stopping Iran from getting arms from China or Russia..just like Pakistan is.

Of course Iran hit back and fired a lot of missiles...please tell me one startegic goal achieved by Iran. Is Israel militarily incapable ..did they give up on Palestine..are they stopping the war against Hamas and Hezbollah .did any Israeli military leader or scientist die. The only deterrence and it's not proven is that by inflicting urban area damage and small casualties they did make civilian life risky and inflicted a cost. That cost is a given in any war. There will be an impact on life.

It has been categorically stated by Israel and us than Khomeni was a target. He is a ruthless leader and a despot. For considerations you mentioned and to give the regime a self preservation off ramp...he was not targeted but if the top general is a target so is a dictator..just because he is a religious head..doesn't make him any different from Saddam or Gaddafi. I would liken him more as the vhp or rss leader proclaiming himself as the leader of Hindu..just because he claims so..we dont need to accept his dogmatic views or consider him our spiritual leader.
 
IMMY69 said:
What are the silly emojis for?
It was reported in the US Media yesterday.
The General admitted to depleting stocks due to the defence of Isreal in his meeting at the Pentagon.
Doesn't mean that they don't have enough to defend themselves, and he even admitted that. BUT two things stand out..
1. The Isreali's needed the states to shoot down Iranian missiles; 2. this is another cost that the USA just doesn't need at the moment.
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You start with 1000 missiles...fighting happens for 5 days..you use missiles.. stocks will go down..that's normal ..depletion happens when you use stuff... If Iran. Is overwhelming favorite and won the war..then after having its allies designated or overthrown...it's too leaders and scientists killed and it's nuclear sites bombed...why would Iran accept a ceasefire..now is the time to finally hit Israel after taking non stop hits form them for last two years....for Israel it makes sense...they are winning so ..stopping the war helps them as they minimize civilian casualties.
 
oatmeal said:
Iran will learn from this but they need to solve the problem of internal sabateours. Mossad has a lot of agents on the ground in Iran supplying them intelligence and carrying out ops.

Also they will need to buy a lot of missile launchers as Israel destroyed 60% of their launchers in the first few days of the war. You can have huge missile stockpiles but they are useless without having launchers.

And they need to rethink their air defense. Iranian missile penetration rate was 7-8%, Israelis were getting 40-50% easily and not a single Israeli jet was shot down. Russian air defense is seriously bad, they would be better off buying hardware from the Chinese instead
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May I suggest the Chinese made hq9..the stellar performance of the Pak air defense in operation Sindoor compared to the crap Russian made s400 is something that the Iranians can use to protect their jehadi hqs and airbases
 
Boyka said:
Israel were clearly running out of defensive measures to stop missiles. Anyone telling you different is an obviously a fool.

A tiny country cannot withstand such targeted attacks, Isreal cannot fight a long war against an enemy that is armed.

Trump saved them but how long can this entity with hostile neighbours really last in the Middle East?
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May I suggest you look at Israel history and countless wars with multiple Arab countries and how they handled such a victory...highly trained and technology savvy disciplined less corrupt troops with big superpowers backing it .. as long as they control the money..they will keep on winning
 
Iran has sanctions. Israel does not.

Israeli pilots operate F35s, better plains India or Pakistan will bring to a dogfight…

Iran has planes waiting to be shot down in any fight with countries who have no sanctions and afford modern enhanced jets.

Give Iran a level playing field and then talk to me about aerial dominance!
 
Rana said:
I don’t bet or make deals.

I’m telling you Iran will have a nuclear bomb very soon. They may already have one.
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Sure if you say so..waiting since Obama era for the mythical bomb...if they already have one ..this wouldn't happen. As I said you are claiming something and if you are correct then this attack was ineffective. If not Israel achieved a major startegic victory.
 
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Rana said:
Iran has sanctions. Israel does not.

Israeli pilots operate F35s, better plains India or Pakistan will bring to a dogfight…

Iran has planes waiting to be shot down in any fight with countries who have no sanctions and afford modern enhanced jets.

Give Iran a level playing field and then talk to me about aerial dominance!
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Again..you are arguing that Iranian air force is equally capable if they have the same technology. I am not debating that..perhaps yes..perhaps no. We don't know.

What matters is that due to technology money or people..Israel can do whatever it wants over tehran skies with low risk. That means Israel has a major advantage in this war. So asides from the cause ..it's a clear victory. That is mainly because of the reasons you outlined.

But in reality ifs and buts dont matter
 
oatmeal said:
Iran will learn from this but they need to solve the problem of internal sabateours. Mossad has a lot of agents on the ground in Iran supplying them intelligence and carrying out ops.

Also they will need to buy a lot of missile launchers as Israel destroyed 60% of their launchers in the first few days of the war. You can have huge missile stockpiles but they are useless without having launchers.

And they need to rethink their air defense. Iranian missile penetration rate was 7-8%, Israelis were getting 40-50% easily and not a single Israeli jet was shot down. Russian air defense is seriously bad, they would be better off buying hardware from the Chinese instead
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It was 7-8% during first few days of the war when they were mostly sending decoys to tire out the Iron Dome, Sling, Arrow, etc. Penetration went up to 25-30% during the last few days of the war.

Russian S-400 is one of the best air defense currently. F-35 is extremely advanced stealth fighter jets. We do not really know the extent of successful air attacks. We only get to hear about the successful attacks making it seems like it was 100% success rate.
 
straighttalk said:
First of all Israel ain't my motherland...they are just another country fighting a country that is quite friendly to India..whole world saw some.iranian missiles hitting Israel...the world is not blind..what are the total casualties in Israel...how many military leaders and scientists died..did Bibi go into hiding like supreme leader...did tehran achieve air dominance over tal Aviv..did they bomb their nuke sites.......just hitting and. Killing civilians isn't strategic ..it's lashing out when you can't hit anything or value....
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You got no idea what you are talking about. They will never ever publish actual casualty from the missile attack. Even penetrating 30% of their missiles in the last few days got them to a ceasefire deal.
 
straighttalk said:
Israel achieved air dominance is a fact...you are giving a reason. I am not saying Israelinpeope. Are superior. No one is stopping Iran from getting arms from China or Russia..just like Pakistan is.

Of course Iran hit back and fired a lot of missiles...please tell me one startegic goal achieved by Iran. Is Israel militarily incapable ..did they give up on Palestine..are they stopping the war against Hamas and Hezbollah .did any Israeli military leader or scientist die. The only deterrence and it's not proven is that by inflicting urban area damage and small casualties they did make civilian life risky and inflicted a cost. That cost is a given in any war. There will be an impact on life.

It has been categorically stated by Israel and us than Khomeni was a target. He is a ruthless leader and a despot. For considerations you mentioned and to give the regime a self preservation off ramp...he was not targeted but if the top general is a target so is a dictator..just because he is a religious head..doesn't make him any different from Saddam or Gaddafi. I would liken him more as the vhp or rss leader proclaiming himself as the leader of Hindu..just because he claims so..we dont need to accept his dogmatic views or consider him our spiritual leader.
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Israel and many other countries will enjoy air dominance over Iran. The thing is, fighters jets are too expensive and are going to be more or less outdated. If you have really really good missiles and drone technology like Iran posses, you can easily negate the air dominance. If you take the population and nukes away, they can even taken on India even without 5th generation fighter jets. In fact, they once ruled you guys.

Strategic Goals achieved by Iran?
-Demonstrated they can hit anywhere within their missile range. They dont need expensive jets to achieve this. Although, having something like F-35 is a huge bonus.
-Demonstrated that they have the stamina for a longer war compared to Israel.
-Regime still intact.
-US cannot have them target their established bases in the middle east.
 
straighttalk said:
Again..you are arguing that Iranian air force is equally capable if they have the same technology. I am not debating that..perhaps yes..perhaps no. We don't know.

What matters is that due to technology money or people..Israel can do whatever it wants over tehran skies with low risk. That means Israel has a major advantage in this war. So asides from the cause ..it's a clear victory. That is mainly because of the reasons you outlined.

But in reality ifs and buts dont matter
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Again, you still got no idea what you are talking about. Israel cannot do whatever it wants even with air dominance. You dont need 5th generation fighter jets(although having few is a bonus) if you have really good missile programs like Iran do. You cant win war by simply going on air attacks, while your home country is getting under seized with missile barrage.

Why do you think the West is afraid to attack North Korea? Do they have 5th generation stealth fighter jets?
 
BDfanforever said:
Israel and many other countries will enjoy air dominance over Iran. The thing is, fighters jets are too expensive and are going to be more or less outdated. If you have really really good missiles and drone technology like Iran posses, you can easily negate the air dominance. If you take the population and nukes away, they can even taken on India even without 5th generation fighter jets. In fact, they once ruled you guys.

Strategic Goals achieved by Iran?
-Demonstrated they can hit anywhere within their missile range. They dont need expensive jets to achieve this. Although, having something like F-35 is a huge bonus.
-Demonstrated that they have the stamina for a longer war compared to Israel.
-Regime still intact.
-US cannot have them target their established bases in the middle east.
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So you want to say USA and Israel s missiles are duds and can't hit anything. Fact is Israel and USA has better air defense and can't intercept a lot of these missiles. For one hit that Israel takes..it can easily dish out 10 more. They are killing top generals and highly protected areas for fun...just decided to let the supreme leader be alive..this is not even a comparison.

I see Israel fighting for two years..killing Hamas and Hezbollah deposing assad killing top generals and nuclear scientists and sites...and they can't fight long but Iran can and after getting blasted out...they accepted the ceasefire just when Israel is running out of stamina. The surviving generals should die of stupidity of that's the case. Kabhi to think before you write something that makes sense.

Ya regime still intact because no one seriously wanted to overthrow the regime and have a more dangerous mullah in power. Stopping nukes is the purpose..not actually regime change.

Forget Iran..there is no power in the world that can compete with USA if the metric of victory is destruction and not nations building or regime change. It's laughable to even say that is can't take on Iran....
 
BDfanforever said:
Again, you still got no idea what you are talking about. Israel cannot do whatever it wants even with air dominance. You dont need 5th generation fighter jets(although having few is a bonus) if you have really good missile programs like Iran do. You cant win war by simply going on air attacks, while your home country is getting under seized with missile barrage.

Why do you think the West is afraid to attack North Korea? Do they have 5th generation stealth fighter jets?
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Good lord..north Korea has nukes..next argument please

You are talking as it Israel and USA does not have missiles. Yes Iran is firing missiles..most get intercepted ..few gets through and hits civilian areas...did they hit Israeli armed forces..airbases..damaged airplanes... What did they achieve...do you think tehran is untouched...they can't even protect their nuclear sites...and you are comparing Israel with Iran.
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BDfanforever said:
You got no idea what you are talking about. They will never ever publish actual casualty from the missile attack. Even penetrating 30% of their missiles in the last few days got them to a ceasefire deal.
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Okk ...point taken .why did Iran sign the ceasefire of they are winning after losing Hamas hezbollah assad general scientist and nuclear reactor... 🤣
 
IronShield said:
After reading this, Iran deserves every Chithrol it got from Israel. Such a deluded bunch of muppets. That fact that Indians were at the forefront of online propaganda for the Israelis just went unnoticed by these fools. No wonder Mosad took them out from the inside.
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You don't get it..do you..most Indians have friendly relationship with both Iran and Israel but unlike you guys we are not in it for religious reasons...so while you selectively moan deaths and destruction..we call out your hypocrisy and just state the facts of what is happening ...we really do not care if Israel loses or Iran loses but the funny part is you care if Iran loses and have a lot going on if in the remote chance Israel loses.
 
BDfanforever said:
The thing is, fighters jets are too expensive and are going to be more or less outdated
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Iran doesn’t have money issues

They are not allowed to buy Stealth jets. The US will go to war against them even if they try to buy from China or Russia
 
IronShield said:
After reading this, Iran deserves every Chithrol it got from Israel. Such a deluded bunch of muppets. That fact that Indians were at the forefront of online propaganda for the Israelis just went unnoticed by these fools. No wonder Mosad took them out from the inside.
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I feel like whole world is naive with India.

India play all sorts of dirty games (spreading misinformation, unethical practices etc.) but they get a lot of free passes. :inti
 
straighttalk said:
So you want to say USA and Israel s missiles are duds and can't hit anything. Fact is Israel and USA has better air defense and can't intercept a lot of these missiles. For one hit that Israel takes..it can easily dish out 10 more. They are killing top generals and highly protected areas for fun...just decided to let the supreme leader be alive..this is not even a comparison.

I see Israel fighting for two years..killing Hamas and Hezbollah deposing assad killing top generals and nuclear scientists and sites...and they can't fight long but Iran can and after getting blasted out...they accepted the ceasefire just when Israel is running out of stamina. The surviving generals should die of stupidity of that's the case. Kabhi to think before you write something that makes sense.

Ya regime still intact because no one seriously wanted to overthrow the regime and have a more dangerous mullah in power. Stopping nukes is the purpose..not actually regime change.

Forget Iran..there is no power in the world that can compete with USA if the metric of victory is destruction and not nations building or regime change. It's laughable to even say that is can't take on Iran....
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No one says US and Israel missiles are duds. Israel can fight long wars against pseudo military like Hamas and Hezbollah, however, not against semi decent military power. Do you have any idea the the extent of damage and money just 12 days of war cost them? Ceasefire was beneficial for both countries, Iran wasnt looking to be the aggressor in this war.

Of course no one can compete against US or Russia for that matter as they are super powers for a reason. However, did you forget Vietnam war? Vietnam is far more weak militarily compared to Iran.
 
straighttalk said:
You don't get it..do you..most Indians have friendly relationship with both Iran and Israel but unlike you guys we are not in it for religious reasons...so while you selectively moan deaths and destruction..we call out your hypocrisy and just state the facts of what is happening ...we really do not care if Israel loses or Iran loses but the funny part is you care if Iran loses and have a lot going on if in the remote chance Israel loses.
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Again not all Muslims are alike. Majority of the Muslims nations in the middle east has a peace treaty with Israel.
 
sweep_shot said:
I feel like whole world is naive with India.

India play all sorts of dirty games (spreading misinformation, unethical practices etc.) but they get a lot of free passes. :inti
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True, only Pakistan and Bangladesh are 2 awakened souls. The rest of the world is ignorant.

No wonder both those countries are in the condition they are in.​
 
straighttalk said:
You don't get it..do you..most Indians have friendly relationship with both Iran and Israel but unlike you guys we are not in it for religious reasons...so while you selectively moan deaths and destruction..we call out your hypocrisy and just state the facts of what is happening ...we really do not care if Israel loses or Iran loses but the funny part is you care if Iran loses and have a lot going on if in the remote chance Israel loses.
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You do care and we see it every time there is a conflict involving muslims. The Indian bots come out in full force.

Iranian bombastic attitude towards their own capabilities has got them to this point, weak and vulnerable and worse still unable to understand the course correction they desperately need. They still hope to use their version of religion to widen their influence in neighbouring countries which previously has led to deaths of hundreds of thousands. Whilst busy helping foment trouble in Pakistan, it was I suppose poetic justice that Mossad infiltrated them right under their noses and their military leadership dying like flies, not comprehending what was going on.
 
Congratulations to our brave Shia muslim brothers in Iran on a resounding victory. Now we must join hands to figure out roadmap for the peaceful merging of Pakistan with Iran, Balochistan, Afghanistan and al Hindiyyah. This could transofmr the region.

Let's be honest Pakistanis are ancient Sanatanis and are the crown jewel of Al Hindiyyah
 
IronShield said:
You do care and we see it every time there is a conflict involving muslims. The Indian bots come out in full force.

Iranian bombastic attitude towards their own capabilities has got them to this point, weak and vulnerable and worse still unable to understand the course correction they desperately need. They still hope to use their version of religion to widen their influence in neighbouring countries which previously has led to deaths of hundreds of thousands. Whilst busy helping foment trouble in Pakistan, it was I suppose poetic justice that Mossad infiltrated them right under their noses and their military leadership dying like flies, not comprehending what was going on.
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See there is a subtle difference...you fight for religion..we fight against terrorism.
 
straighttalk said:
See there is a subtle difference...you fight for religion..we fight against terrorism
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No actually you do both, the fact that you have a butcher of Gujrat as your PM is a testament to that.

No one indulges your narrative anymore. The G7 bezti of getting invite at last minute and then only invited to come when everyone was preparing to depart and now at SCO....
 
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Defiant Khamenei says Iran will ‘never surrender’ to the US​


Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has said Iran will “never surrender” to the United States, striking a defiant tone in his first remarks since a ceasefire with Israel took hold.

“The American president indicated in one of his statements that Iran must surrender. Surrender! It is no longer a question of enrichment, nor of the nuclear industry, but of the surrender of Iran,” said Khamenei in a statement and televised speech carried by state media on Thursday. “Such an event (surrender) will never happen. It will never happen.”

Khamenei’s remarks come two days after a ceasefire halted a 12-day war between Iran and Israel – the foes’ deadliest and most destructive confrontation – and mark his first public appearance since June 19.

The speech also comes amid conflicting accounts in the US over the extent of the damage inflicted by US strikes on key Iranian nuclear sites at Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan during the conflict. US President Donald Trump said the strikes “obliterated” the nuclear facilities.

But Khamenei said Trump had “exaggerated” the impact of the attacks and said the US “gained nothing from this war,” claiming the US strikes “did nothing significant” to Iran’s nuclear facilities.

“The Islamic republic won, and in retaliation dealt a severe slap to the face of America,” he said, a reference to Iran’s missile launch targeting a US base in Qatar, the largest in the Middle East, which caused no casualties.

Al Jazeera’s Resul Serdar, reporting from Tehran, said Khamenei also focused on the country’s armed forces, to offer them congratulations and counter the claims around the world and in Iran that the army “has received huge blows from the Israeli attacks”.

While Iranians who fled Tehran during the war have been gradually returning to the city, “there is a common anxiety among the Iranian people here as well because they believe this was only the first wave of the war,” said Serdar.

“Many are questioning the efficiency of Iran’s air defence systems” and feel that Iran could be more vulnerable to a potential future attack from the US and Israel, added Serdar.

Khamenei said that the Iranian army successfully targeted military and non-military positions, and caused extensive damage in Israel and added that “if Israel attacks us again, they will see a further destruction”, added Serdar.

Khamenei did not threaten the Israelis or Americans with military action in his speech, but did say that the country’s nuclear programme remains largely in place – contrary to US statements, said Serdar.

“He said that most of the sites are still in place and that Iran is going to continue its nuclear programme.”

Both Iran and Israel have claimed victory in the 12-day war, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hailing on Tuesday a “historic victory” for Israel.

Meanwhile, Iran has said it is willing to return to nuclear negotiations with Washington.

The Israeli strikes on Iran killed at least 627 civilians, Tehran’s health ministry said, while official figures indicate Iran’s attacks on Israel killed 28 people.

A state funeral will be held on Saturday in Tehran for top commanders and nuclear scientists killed in the war.

Source: Al Jazeera and news agencies

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It does seem like Iran did really well, all the intel reports are purposely being made to confuse.

Kudos to Iran and yes MAGA as well.
 
IronShield said:
No actually you do both, the fact that you have a butcher of Gujrat as your PM is a testament to that.

No one indulges your narrative anymore. The G7 bezti of getting invite at last minute and then only invited to come when everyone was preparing to depart and now at SCO....
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I know the g7 invite hurt you badly..so much for diplomatic isolation story..maybe request you get an invite next time after they get one themselves
 

Iran opens airspace for international transits after ceasefire with Israel; domestic flights remain partly suspended​


Iran has expanded access to its airspace for international overflights following a ceasefire with Israel, though flight restrictions remain in place across much of the country, an official said on Saturday.

"In addition to the eastern half of the country's airspace being available for domestic, international and overflight operations, the airspace over the central and western parts of the country has now also been opened only for international overflights," Majid Akhavan, spokesman for the Ministry of Roads and Urban Development, said in a statement carried by the IRNA state news agency, according to an AFP report.

Domestic flights remain suspended

Flights to and from airports in the north, south and west of the country, including Tehran's Mehrabad and Imam Khomeini international airports, remained suspended, according to Akhavan.

The move comes after Iran reopened its eastern airspace on Wednesday, following a ceasefire that ended 12 days of fighting with Israel.

Iran had closed its skies entirely on June 13 after Israel launched a wave of airstrikes, prompting Iranian missile retaliation.

Airports now operating include Mashhad in eastern Iran – which Israel claimed to have targeted during the conflict – as well as Chabahar in the southeast. Flights in other regions remain suspended until further notice, the AFP report added.

Over 4,400 Indians evacuated from Iran, Israel
India has so far evacuated more than 4,400 Indian nationals from Iran and Israel in 19 special flights under Operation Sindhu launched on June 18 to bring home its citizens amid an ongoing conflict between the two countries, according to the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA).

The evacuated Indian nationals included "more than 1,500 women and 500 children", the MEA said in a statement on Friday.

"The government of India is deeply committed to the safety and well-being of its citizens abroad. Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi's guidance, Operation Sindhu is another demonstration of this commitment," it said.

"We thank the governments of Iran, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Armenia and Turkmenistan for their support during Operation Sindhu. Indian Missions will stay engaged with host governments and the Indian community in Iran, Israel and the wider West Asia region," the MEA added.

A batch of 173 Indians evacuated from Iran reached Delhi late on Thursday night in a flight from Armenian capital Yerevan, the MEA had said in a post on X.

Responding to queries on Operation Sindhu at his weekly media briefing a day before, MEA spokesperson Randhir Jaiswal said New Delhi was assessing the situation on the ground and a decision on the future course of action would be taken based on it.

More than 3,400 Indian nationals have so far been evacuated in 14 flights from Iran since the start of Operation Sindhu, according to data shared by Jaiswal during the briefing.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
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