Rumours - Babar Azam, Shadab Khan and Shaheen Shah Afridi involved in an argument in the dressing room

[Usman Chadda]

Many media outlets reporting Babar and Shadab had an altercation in the dressing room.

Quite surprised as Shadab has no leg to stand on and should keep his mouth shut to focus on his performances. His bowling has been instrumental in us losing games from winning positions, while this lad continues to bowl full tosses and half trackers to be dispatched for sixes.

Fakhar also bore the brunt of Babar’s criticism, but he apparently chose to stay quiet and not give silly excuses like Shadab.

It took one game to destroy whatever this team was building towards, and with our pacers injured, this is heading towards a disastrous World Cup campaign.

 

[Mamoon]

If this is what it would take to boot Shadab out of the team, so be it.

 

[Rana]

All that ‘team is gelled’ rubbish

 

[NeVerMind]

Will only know if this is true if Sahdab is replaced tomorrow for say, Usama Mir...until it's just rumours

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Will only know if this is true if Sahdab is replaced tomorrow for say, Usama Mir...until it's just rumours

Shadab is already in the Playing 11 so it seems like a rumour.

 

[NeVerMind]

Shadab is already in the Playing 11 so it seems like a rumour.

Pretty sure they can change it until the toss when they hand in the team sheets so will wait until then
...
As much as I want Sahdab to be dropped from the playing 11, I hope this so not true...I remember the dark days of in-fighting among the players and trying to undermine the captain by underperforming deliberately and seriously do not want to go back to that!

 

[Asad T]

Pretty sure they can change it until the toss when they hand in the team sheets so will wait until then
...
As much as I want Sahdab to be dropped from the playing 11, I hope this so not true...I remember the dark days of in-fighting among the players and trying to undermine the captain by underperforming deliberately and seriously do not want to go back to that!

Can you imagine, potentially 6 changes

 

[riddu]

replace shadab with abrar ..

 

[Savak]

I am pretty sure Babar must have vented his frustrations to Shadab about his performances and Shadab must have reacted personally rather than man up to the criticism.

 

[TeamPak95]

Assuming this is true, this ain't a good thing at all regardless of whether or not you like Shadab or Babar. This calls back to past Pakistani sides where talent was evident but unity wasn't and constant chopping and changing of players/captains was the norm.

Now if this supposed situation is a one time occurrence only I hope this doesn't carry on, at most, no further than the Asia Cup. The last thing we want is to head to the WC in toxicity.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

replace shadab with abrar ..

we need a proper all rounder at this position, unfortunately abrar cant get into the team only on his bowling abilities we need someone who can bat as well.

 

[Rana]

Shadab is already in the Playing 11 so it seems like a rumour.

He’s probably cried and blackmailed himself into the XI

It makes absolutely no sense why he gets another go but Fakhar is dropped!

 

[riddu]

we need a proper all rounder at this position, unfortunately abrar cant get into the team only on his bowling abilities we need someone who can bat as well.

shadab is dummy all rounder... a good bowler will easily get him off for a duck in every match

 

[shokz1408]

I hope he’s had a go at them as he rightfully should. Fakhar hasn’t performed for a long period. And, shadab can do all facets batting, bowling and fielding - only problem is that fielding is the only good one. Doesn’t look like he could win the game with the bat or ball these days. Very much a bits and pieces player, which is our trademark for all rounders these days.

 

[rickroll]

Is one defeat against India all that it takes for the Pakistan team to unravel like this across all fronts? Suddenly Pakistan went from favorites to win WC to a team barely staying afloat? I cannot believe the players, public, media etc are all so fragile and sensitive when it comes to games or defeats against India in a smaller tournament league game. We never saw India unraveling like this even after a big defeat in the final in a bigger tournament (CT17). They picked themselves up and just moved on. Man this is depressing.

 

[kron]

Need wholesale changes.

Where are new talents. We are not giving any opportunities. Unnecessarily dropped m wasim.

Abrar should come in. Up top batting needs a serious overhaul. After so many years, we still lack the power game. Can't just rely on padded stats vs low ranked teams.

 

[Bewal Express]

So what. It shows that they care and are prepared to call out each other out. These are professional sportsman and there are many fights in dressing rooms and it's only a surprise to people that have no idea how sports and sportsman work.

 

[Nado_]

By altercation do they mean physical or verbal.

If it’s verbal I’m sure it happens in every team now and then , especially the high intensity level they play at.

However it’s disturbing that it involves the captain , you have to respect the captain , who is Shadab to fight with the captain especially as he’s a major underperformer

 

[hitthestump]

Need wholesale changes.

Where are new talents. We are not giving any opportunities. Unnecessarily dropped m wasim.

Abrar should come in. Up top batting needs a serious overhaul. After so many years, we still lack the power game. Can't just rely on padded stats vs low ranked teams.

Ahhh the circle is complete.

We're back to asking for Khushdil Shah and Asif Ali

 

[hitthestump]

By altercation do they mean physical or verbal.

If it’s verbal I’m sure it happens in every team now and then , especially the high intensity level they play at.

However it’s disturbing that it involves the captain , you have to respect the captain , who is Shadab to fight with the captain especially as he’s a major underperformer

Emotions would have been running high after such a sore defeat and when your confidence is low, you naturally become defensive. Shadab is a human being and he knows as well as anyone that he has been horrid lately.

There is nothing wrong with a heated altercation in the dressing room. It should stay in the dressing room, any issues should be resolved and all energies diverted into performing on the field.

I don't think we're going to see Shadab storm off and try to start his new faction. Hopefully we'll see them both perform well against Sri Lanka tomorrow and then toss this incident under the bridge.

 

[gazza619]

If this is what it would take to boot Shadab out of the team, so be it.

He is the playing XI again. Shameful for the sonay pe sohaga guy

 

[hitthestump]

Will only know if this is true if Sahdab is replaced tomorrow for say, Usama Mir...until it's just rumours

This isn't the case at all. Even if Babar and Shadab are at each others throats the team has to come first.

Mohammad Nawaz isn't going to be batting number 7 in such a crunch match. Nor is Usama Mir.

Shadab's position is always secure with such a dearth of players who can bowl 10 overs and also bat in the lower middle order.

 

[Bewal Express]

The stories that you hear from ex players would make the people on here lose their mind. Players are not friends, they are temporary colleagues thrown together by fate. What you don't want is hatred like with Wasim-Waqar, Lillee-Hughes etc.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Ahhh the circle is complete.

We're back to asking for Khushdil Shah and Asif Ali

if we take a look on fakhar zaman's form so trust me they both seems way better options.

 

[Rana]

So what. It shows that they care and are prepared to call out each other out. These are professional sportsman and there are many fights in dressing rooms and it's only a surprise to people that have no idea how sports and sportsman work.

Wah jee Wah! If Babar’s team does it it’s= professional sportsman prepared to call each other out

But if everyone before him did it= toxic, disunited backstabbing, self serving snakes

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Shadab has not improved since the CT win. Bowling full tosses and smiling when coming on to bat in a big match where his team was losing is a poor attitude.

Problem is Pakistan have no replacements. New TTFs emerging without any backups. Starting to feel like 2013.

 

[Bewal Express]

Wah jee Wah! If Babar’s team does it it’s= professional sportsman prepared to call each other out

But if everyone before him did it= toxic, disunited backstabbing, self serving snakes

For a start you have no idea if it's true, and if its true, what they were arguing over. The Wasim Waqar is in the open and it destroyed a team.

 

[Rana]

For a start you have no idea if it's true, and if its true, what they were arguing over. The Wasim Waqar is in the open and it destroyed a team. So before you comment calm down because we know what happens when you get too

What happens when I get too what? Maybe I have the same aggressive spirit as Imran Khan when it comes to calling out nonsense? Will I end up like him as well?

 

[mominsaigol]

Everyone keeps saying one match against India and all of you are panicking. Stop with these excuses and wake up for God sakes.

Fakhar hasn't been performing since his LPL form, Shadab hasn't been performing with the ball since Never, EVEN THOUGH HES OUR FRONTLINE spinner.

We have fakhar, Imam, Babar and rizwan at the top order, with agha, Chacha and shadab as our front line middle order.

4 accumulators with one who can't play anything away or towards him, the other who can't play lofted strokes for the life of him, one who can't play quality spin and has no backfoot movement and the last who's completly clueless to anything that's quality bowling and runs between the wickets like a suicidal mission impossible Tom cruise.

And chacha a man who cannot play quality 1st string sides, Agha who looks like a tailender while batting and shadab who is not a no 7 bat in the first place. Followed either by faheem or nawaz and then our iconic bowling trio( the trio that's the only good part about our lineup as our 3 trio are all world class irrespective of their failures against India, these 3 are world class bowlers, with naseem on the path to become an ATG)

^^ Do you all seriously not see any problem? How blind can you all be?

We are completly dependant on the bowling trio, if they have a bad day, then allah hafiz. As for our batting, We are entirely relying on imam and Babar to win it for us, 2 accumulators and we expect them to win us games as if their kholi and ab de devillers batting at the crease.

 

[mominsaigol]

Is one defeat against India all that it takes for the Pakistan team to unravel like this across all fronts? Suddenly Pakistan went from favorites to win WC to a team barely staying afloat? I cannot believe the players, public, media etc are all so fragile and sensitive when it comes to games or defeats against India in a smaller tournament league game. We never saw India unraveling like this even after a big defeat in the final in a bigger tournament (CT17). They picked themselves up and just moved on. Man this is depressing.

You're missing the point, India didn't have a bad team just because they lost the final. They had rohit, dhawan, yuvaraj, Dhoni, Kholi, raina, bumrah etc etc.

We do. Everyone thinks we have a good team because we've been murking 2nd string sides. Truth is imam and Babar are just world class accumulators, their good players but they aren't match winners, they can only contribute towards that goal but pakistan is dependant on them as if their kholi and ab de debillers. Theirs a reason Babar and imam always go missing on big matches.

Fakhar is technically incompetent, Rizwan is a medicore bat but his no 2 t20 rank has fooled everyone.

Agha, Chacha, Shadab and Faheem/Nawaz make up for an extremely extremely hilarious middle order, none of these guys are batting or bowling well against 1st string sides.

Only shining light is our bowling trio especially naseem. Our bowling trio is world class but if our bowling trio fails then we fail, and even if our bowling trio performs expect our incompetent shadab to help the opposition recover and undo all the hard work out bowling trio did which happened with India.

Ct 2017 champions trophy India didn't panick cause they had a complete team which just had an off day.

The truth with our team is that it's just 5 players, the rest are Tail enders. Those 5 players being naseem , shaheen, Rauf, Babar and imam.

 

[rickroll]

You're missing the point, India didn't have a bad team just because they lost the final. They had rohit, dhawan, yuvaraj, Dhoni, Kholi, raina, bumrah etc etc.

We do. Everyone thinks we have a good team because we've been murking 2nd string sides. Truth is imam and Babar are just world class accumulators, their good players but they aren't match winners, they can only contribute towards that goal but pakistan is dependant on them as if their kholi and ab de debillers. Theirs a reason Babar and imam always go missing on big matches.

Fakhar is technically incompetent, Rizwan is a medicore bat but his no 2 t20 rank has fooled everyone.

Agha, Chacha, Shadab and Faheem/Nawaz make up for an extremely extremely hilarious middle order, none of these guys are batting or bowling well against 1st string sides.

Only shining light is our bowling trio especially naseem. Our bowling trio is world class but if our bowling trio fails then we fail, and even if our bowling trio performs expect our incompetent shadab to help the opposition recover and undo all the hard work out bowling trio did which happened with India.

Ct 2017 champions trophy India didn't panick cause they had a complete team which just had an off day.

The truth with our team is that it's just 5 players, the rest are Tail enders. Those 5 players being naseem , shaheen, Rauf, Babar and imam.

My heart wants to disagree with you but my brain is stopping me from doing so since what you say does seem logical.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Would be weird not to have any dressing room fights or frustration after a loss like that. It's pretty normal for it to happen unless it got personal. If it didn't, no big deal and might be good for players to have a honest conversation and be open about it.

Guessing but I'd imagine Shadab may be upset that we won the toss and chose to not field for some very stupid reason. They even have a coach who literally coached SL for years recently and should be well aware of the conditions and how difficult it is to chase in SL and yet, they still didn't chose to bat first. Seems crazy to me that the squad is full of players who haven't faced India's bowling in ODI since WC and there's possibility it could be a rained out match and instead of using the opportunity to bat first and get used to their bowling attack, they still fielded despite also missing out on batting against India's bowlers last match. Inexcusable poor tactics and Mickey, frankly deserves a lot of blame in my eyes.

Pitch was unplayable in the 2nd innings but it doesn't excuse the poor bowling in the first inning.

 

[mominsaigol]

My heart wants to disagree with you but my brain is stopping me from doing so since what you say does seem logical.

Mate I'm the only one here who thinks analytically. While I may be biased in some of my claims in the same way everyone else is, I don't think it's possible to be 100% unbiased, I analyse literally everything before making a claim. Everyone else just speaks from their hearts or gets excited or dissapointed if something doesn't go their way.

I've advocated time and time again, our bowling trio aren't the problem, everything else is.

The middle order is a joke, every bowler (Faheem,Nawaz,Shadab,Chacha,Agha) aside from our world class trio is a joke.

Rizwan is a medicore accumulator, fakhar is a tail ender at this point. Imam and Babar are world class I agree, but their word class accumulators not world class match winners. They alone won't be chasing down 300+ against 1st string sides unless they have some solid solid batting backing, which they don't have, these 2 are bearing the burden of playing with Tail enders.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Mate I'm the only one here who thinks analytically. While I may be biased in some of my claims in the same way everyone else is, I don't think it's possible to be 100% unbiased, I analyse literally everything before making a claim. Everyone else just speaks from their hearts or gets excited or dissapointed if something doesn't go their way.

I've advocated time and time again, our bowling trio aren't the problem, everything else is.

The middle order is a joke, every bowler (Faheem,Nawaz,Shadab,Chacha,Agha) aside from our world class trio is a joke.

Rizwan is a medicore accumulator, fakhar is a tail ender at this point. Imam and Babar are world class I agree, but their word class accumulators not world class match winners. They alone won't be chasing down 300+ against 1st string sides unless they have some solid solid batting backing, which they don't have, these 2 are bearing the burden of playing with Tail enders.

and most annoying thing is that our tails get started from Shadab, so if we are five wickets down, it doesn't take long for the entire team to crumble.
That is what we often see!

 

[mominsaigol]

and most annoying this is that our tails get started from Shadab, so if we are five wickets down, it doesn't take long for the entire team to crumble.
That is what we often see!

Our tail gets started from the opening with fakhar and ends as soon as one of Babar or imam get dismissed.

Rizwan, Fakhar, Agha, Chacha, Shadab, nawaz, Faheem,

^^ These boys are getting chewed up and spitted out by the likes of Hazelwood, Stark, Bumrah, Kuldeep etc etc.

Only babar and imam can play these guys, but unlike ish sodhi or other terrible 2nd string bowlers, Babar won't be dominating. You'll see the same 2019 NZ performance from.babar where he'll be accumulating and hanging in their, which obviously won't work for 300 totals, which will always happen if our bowling trio fails.

And our bowling trio is world class but it's impossible to perform in every match.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Spreading rumors is always bad especially they are false.

The meek capitulation against India deserves harsh words for everyone in the dressing room (captain and coaches as well).

Shadab needs to start taking responsibility, he isn't an inexperienced youngster anymore (the cushion we are always giving to the players for their failure). He needs to up the ante in all 3 disciplines. His bowling is looking like he's dozy. He was bowling very well earlier this year against NZ. Bowled especially well in the 2 wt20is. If he's injured, he should be replaced, otherwise he should man up and improve.

Babar made plenty of errors himself and needs to correct himself too. His tactics are very predictable. Mickey and Bradburn should step in.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Well the major concern is the babar's captaincy itself, he was pathetic in his field placements, other than shadab's 5 initial overs he bowled quite well to compensate.

 

[shokz1408]

The bar for all rounders is set quite low, we have the likes of shadab who can supposedly hang around a bit with no real damage to the opposition. Then you have genuine all rounders, match winners like Ben stokes, Hardik pandya. We are missing the calibre of such batsmen. Even our middle order batsmen don’t inspire confidence, not to mention the toothless spin bowling by shadab and Nawaz. So we are failing in multiple facets here, words need to be had, changes need to be made.

 

[mominsaigol]

The bar for all rounders is set quite low, we have the likes of shadab who can supposedly hang around a bit with no real damage to the opposition. Then you have genuine all rounders, match winners like Ben stokes, Hardik pandya. We are missing the calibre of such batsmen. Even our middle order batsmen don’t inspire confidence, not to mention the toothless spin bowling by shadab and Nawaz. So we are failing in multiple facets here, words need to be had, changes need to be made.

Another key issue is the mindset. Ben Stokes and pandya keep developing their skills. Shadab hasn't improved much since his 2017 days because he thinks of himself as a superstar key player who's up their with the greats.

Shadab views himself as an ace bowler and a killer batsmen and puts himself in the limelight of pandya or Stokes without actually trying to work hard and genuinely achieve their status which they themselves achieved through hard work.

 

[Vikram1989]

Another key issue is the mindset. Ben Stokes and pandya keep developing their skills. Shadab hasn't improved much since his 2017 days because he thinks of himself as a superstar key player who's up their with the greats.

Shadab views himself as an ace bowler and a killer batsmen and puts himself in the limelight of pandya or Stokes without actually trying to work hard and genuinely achieve their status which they themselves achieved through hard work.

If u watch 2019 wc pak vs india, shadab dished out same full toss deliveries to rohit in his first over and same case in the last match.one may think shadab has time travelled.

 

[MenInG]

Sorry - all unsubstantiated stuff here.

But carry on.

Those who understand Urdu:

Dil Ke Behlaane Ko ‘Ghalib’ Ye Khayaal Achhaa Hai

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan cricket team is lying in an ICU
right now and an open heart surgery must be performed to enable this team to get back on its feet.

In October however, I see them lifting the World Cup.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Sorry - all unsubstantiated stuff here.

But carry on.

Those who understand Urdu:

Dil Ke Behlaane Ko ‘Ghalib’ Ye Khayaal Achhaa Hai

I thought so.

This pair always reminded me of Ram
And Laxman as a jodi.

 

[Third Man]

So what. It shows that they care and are prepared to call out each other out. These are professional sportsman and there are many fights in dressing rooms and it's only a surprise to people that have no idea how sports and sportsman work.

So true. You're not a serious sportsman if you don't mouth off at your teammates from time to time. What kind of an insufferable team would it be if nothing of this sort happens after a drubbing like that.

 

[160KPH]

So true. You're not a serious sportsman if you don't mouth off at your teammates from time to time. What kind of an insufferable team would it be if nothing of this sort happens after a drubbing like that.

Right on. Anger after a result like that shows that they’re actually emotionally invested. If anything, I didn’t care for our players like Rizwan coming out with a massive smile on their face while the batting was collapsing. You have to come out focused and ready to put some pressure back on the opposing team.

 

[Third Man]

Wah jee Wah! If Babar’s team does it it’s= professional sportsman prepared to call each other out

But if everyone before him did it= toxic, disunited backstabbing, self serving snakes

It's not backstabbing if you say everything to someone's face.

 

[Third Man]

Right on. Anger after a result like that shows that they’re actually emotionally invested. If anything, I didn’t care for our players like Rizwan coming out with a massive smile on their face while the batting was collapsing. You have to come out focused and ready to put some pressure back on the opposing team.

I can't bear watching Rizwan's smile and just Rizwan period these days. Have some self-respect for heaven's sake.

 

[Swashbuckler]

In general you shouldn't overreact so much because of a defeat in some sports game. Pakistan lost a game after a long successful winning streak, why go into meltdown over this? Can very well face India again in the final and win the trophy, has happened so many times in the past and by many teams.

 

[TheSultan]

Well well well….another Babar captaincy defence “he has created a United dressing room” goes out of the window. What’s the next excuse?

 

[SamNJ]

Shadab must have said at least I got hit by Rohit and then got him out next over. Tum to Pandya se bowled hokay aa gye.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

The wheels are slowly coming off. Soon their will be cliques forming within the dressing room and we will be back to early 2010s level of drama. All I can say is this is well earned karma for Babar

 

[MenInG]

The wheels are slowly coming off. Soon their will be cliques forming within the dressing room and we will be back to early 2010s level of drama. All I can say is this is well earned karma for Babar

Where are you getting this from?

What proof do you have?

All we have is some weak media report.

 

[VForVendetta]

In general you shouldn't overreact so much because of a defeat in some sports game. Pakistan lost a game after a long successful winning streak, why go into meltdown over this? Can very well face India again in the final and win the trophy, has happened so many times in the past and by many teams.

The margin of defeat is just way too massive to ignore. I am pretty sure you remember all the uproar & wrist slitting happened in your country after the 180 massacre. Was it because they lost another icc final? Sure, but the main issue was the whole nation was shellshocked & in denial that such a tragedy could happen against the arch rivals. Yes, Pak have come back from embarrassing defeats against Ind & went to win tournaments at least 4 times as far I can remember (00 sharjah, 08 kitply,12 Asia & of course the ct). But even those margins pale compared to this one. Multiple records were made & broken where not a single one of them benefitted Pak. Pak were number 1 & for the first time in atleast 20 years they were not the underdog. All those hype surrounding the pace trio as well as Babar were simply unseen or unheard for a Pak Ind contest in many many years infact decades.
So yes this is not just an ordinary defeat & shouldn't be treated as such. It has opened the pandora & exposed all those shortcomings they were able to hide courtesy of bashing minnows after minnows along with third string sena elevens. Many of us here were already aware of it & calling them out, but unfortunately due to massive fan following & blind worship they also became delusional & arrogant. Of course Pak can still come back & win the trophy but there's no way this defeat will be forgotten soon, not until they can inflict a similar one onto Indians which I don't see happening. They may defeat Ind but no way they will outclass & embarrass them, Ind simply won't let another 180 massacre happen.

 

[mominsaigol]

In general you shouldn't overreact so much because of a defeat in some sports game. Pakistan lost a game after a long successful winning streak, why go into meltdown over this? Can very well face India again in the final and win the trophy, has happened so many times in the past and by many teams.

It isn't the margin of defeat that is thr issue. Champions trophy final India didn't panick because they had a bad day but didn't have a bad team. Dhawan, Raina, Yubraj, Kholi, Rohit, Dhoni, Bumrah, Jadeja etc etc. They just had an offday.

We however do not have a good team. Rizwan and fakhar are medicore bats something people fail to realise. Theirs a reason fakhar has that most frustrating batter thread on this forumn, and rizwan is medicore with the no 2 t20 rank fooling everyone.

Agha, Chacha, Shadab, Faheem/nawaz make up one of the most laugable middle orders I have ever seen in my life.

Our bowling trio is world class, one failure won't convince me otherwise. Shaheen, Naseem, Haris their all world class, Naseem especially.

But if our bowling trio doesn't perform which they won't in every game, it's humanely impossible then we don't have any backup options which India does if their front line bowlers fail. And if pur bowling trio does perform, then expect faheem, nawaz, shadab etc to just undo their hardwork which is what happened against India in the first game where they recovered.

Imam and Babar are world class I agree. But imam and Babar are world class accumulators not world class impact players. They can only contribute and anchor, Theirs a reason they go missing in big games or big chases. Their very good players but they need hand holding and aren't single handedly winning you games like devillers, Butler, kholi etc.

 

[riddu]

if babar has to learn proper team management to control egobad boys ..he must start belt treatment ..hope pcb allows otherwise pak cricket will never improve ..only belt can keep fear of good performances and no fixing .

 

[gazza619]

Shadab has not improved since the CT win. Bowling full tosses and smiling when coming on to bat in a big match where his team was losing is a poor attitude.

Problem is Pakistan have no replacements. New TTFs emerging without any backups. Starting to feel like 2013.

Pakistan has replacements. Imad, Usama, Abrar are waiting in the wings.

 

[alihasnain861]

Shadab is still a part of our playing eleven today instead of usama mir so it seems that all this is just a media speculations

 

[Rana]

Shadab is still a part of our playing eleven today instead of usama mir so it seems that all this is just a media speculations

It doesn’t work like that

Dropping a guy like Fakhar (who can’t stand up for himself) is not like dropping a guy such as Shadab (who has a big mouth)

Dunya hai
Dhanda hai

 

[PakPremi]

Everyone needs to calm down it was not a fight but an argument about performances of Fakhar with bat and Shadab starting off terribly in his first two overs and being quoted example of how Kuldeep bowled in the gamw, Fakhar did not say much but Shadab said it was harsh to compare his bowling with Kuldeep as when Shadab came to bowl India were well on top, whereas Pakistani batsmen were playing under big pressure due to poor start

 

[Rana]

Everyone needs to calm down it was not a fight but an argument about performances of Fakhar with bat and Shadab starting off terribly in his first two overs and being quoted example of how Kuldeep bowled in the gamw, Fakhar did not say much but Shadab said it was harsh to compare his bowling with Kuldeep as when Shadab came to bowl India were well on top, whereas Pakistani batsmen were playing under big pressure due to poor start

No one needs to calm down

You people didnt say that when fights were happening in the dressing room pre-Babar captaincy era. There was always mirch masala then, there will be mirch masala now too.

Makafaat-E-Aml

 

[PakPremi]

OK start jumping up and down with rage and spreading unfounded rumours. It is natural after a horrible defeat some players are dressed down for their performances, nothing more, what happened in past is not a comparison at all.

 

[Rana]

OK start jumping up and down with rage and spreading unfounded rumours. It is natural after a huniating defeat some players are dressed down for their performances, nothing more.

Yes..that’s what we do for all captains besides Babar, so why should Babar be any different?

 

[Rana]

Where are you getting this from?

What proof do you have?

All we have is some weak media report.

Mohsin Ali Khan commenting on it is not weak media

He is a man of honour, he won’t indulge in rumours

 

[Titan24]

Media likes to spice things up for more engagement.

Ofcourse when you play a team game there are going to be discussions, debates and some disagreements. So it would be something on those ground at max.

Nothing much to look into imo.

 

[Major]

not a single post in this thread that tells what happened.. so just a fake news

 

[Major]

op mentioned many media outlets, but no media outlet has reported this..

unless home made youtubers made a news and this is now known media outlet

 

[MenInG]

op mentioned many media outlets, but no media outlet has reported this..

unless home made youtubers made a news and this is now known media outlet

Apparently that paragon of balanced views, Mohsin Khan, said this on Bol news

Good enough for some.

 

[PakLFC]

Shadab should be thrown out. He is a passenger doing nothing to help the side.

 

[MenInG]

Behold - the divided dressing room....

Feel sorry for some here.

 

[Rana]

Behold - the divided dressing room....

Feel sorry for some here.

The same PCB Twitter/social media handle that said Ik was not mentioned because of a ‘lag in uploading’?

You trust this source and it’s agenda?

 

[MenInG]

The same PCB Twitter/social media handle that said Ik was not mentioned because of a ‘lag in uploading’?

You trust this source and it’s agenda?

I Am going by the visuals.

What are you going by?

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Many media outlets reporting Babar and Shadab had an altercation in the dressing room.

Quite surprised as Shadab has no leg to stand on and should keep his mouth shut to focus on his performances. His bowling has been instrumental in us losing games from winning positions, while this lad continues to bowl full tosses and half trackers to be dispatched for sixes.

Fakhar also bore the brunt of Babar’s criticism, but he apparently chose to stay quiet and not give silly excuses like Shadab.

It took one game to destroy whatever this team was building towards, and with our pacers injured, this is heading towards a disastrous World Cup campaign.

ridiculous rumour. Pakistan journos have no shame. I especially despise them. god awful, rude.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Some of the questions/analysis done by the Sports Journos in Pakistan is just so bad. I mean you criticise, but they go below the belt and go personal against the players. PCB really needs to reign these guys in and not give them media pass if they don't improve.

 

[Sir-fraz]

Lets be real shadab has been a bum for a while now, with no imporvement in his batting and a decline in his bowling.

Whatever "hardwork" hes putting seems to be off the field.

Also its not like babar is a great captain by any means. His fielding placement are sus

 

[owenhcricket]

Some of the questions/analysis done by the Sports Journos in Pakistan is just so bad. I mean you criticise, but they go below the belt and go personal against the players. PCB really needs to reign these guys in and not give them media pass if they don't improve.

I agree to a certain extent but then you get to the totalitarian actions of the BCCI and how the only journos allowed at press conferences are those that suck up to Kohli and co and I think that kills sports journalism.

Back on topic, I'm not sure if its a plain lie by Pakistani media or something overblown because big defeats like this should and have often led to honesty in the backroom. England have spoken about it several times post 2015, Australia, SA etc the same. A professional team should be able to deal with this, as Pakistan did in CT 2017, they all sat down and discussed openly their failings and what they thought of others and what could be improved.

If that is what happened then it can only work for the betterment of the team.

 

[Rana]

I Am going by the visuals.

What are you going by?

Were there any visuals of the feud of Wasim/Waqar? Or the resentment Younis and Misbah had for each other? Or the 9 players in a squad of 2010 World Cup who didn’t speak to each other?

Things will spill out with time.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I agree to a certain extent but then you get to the totalitarian actions of the BCCI and how the only journos allowed at press conferences are those that suck up to Kohli and co and I think that kills sports journalism.

Back on topic, I'm not sure if its a plain lie by Pakistani media or something overblown because big defeats like this should and have often led to honesty in the backroom. England have spoken about it several times post 2015, Australia, SA etc the same. A professional team should be able to deal with this, as Pakistan did in CT 2017, they all sat down and discussed openly their failings and what they thought of others and what could be improved.

If that is what happened then it can only work for the betterment of the team.

Seeing Pak Journos I agree with BCCI's totalitarian approach. Asking your most respected and top player like Babar badtameez questions should result in immediate ban from PCB.

 

[Major]

Were there any visuals of the feud of Wasim/Waqar? Or the resentment Younis and Misbah had for each other? Or the 9 players in a squad of 2010 World Cup who didn’t speak to each other?

Things will spill out with time.

oh bhai, a event that took place needs to be covered in a news website where a journalist with good background covers the news or some cricket website journalist covering.

These are clickbait articles. The players probably had an argument which happens in every workplace. But to say a fight.

No source or link has been shared, thus its a rumor

 

[Rana]

Seeing Pak Journos I agree with BCCI's totalitarian approach. Asking your most respected and top player like Babar badtameez questions should result in immediate ban from PCB.

Lol what? Ban for asking tough questions?

 

[owenhcricket]

Seeing Pak Journos I agree with BCCI's totalitarian approach. Asking your most respected and top player like Babar badtameez questions should result in immediate ban from PCB.

But it then leads to a circle of sycophants who do nothing but stroke the players egos. That is not journalism, that is cheerleading.