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Rumours - Babar Azam, Shadab Khan and Shaheen Shah Afridi involved in an argument in the dressing room

oh bhai, a event that took place needs to be covered in a news website where a journalist with good background covers the news or some cricket website journalist covering.

These are clickbait articles. The players probably had an argument which happens in every workplace. But to say a fight.

No source or link has been shared, thus its a rumor
Na I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be reading it that simply if Sarfaraz or Imad was the captain and some rumour as such emerged
 
Na I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be reading it that simply if Sarfaraz or Imad was the captain and some rumour as such emerged
i dont support any particular group of players. I critisize babars captaincy and think he is one of the worst captains ever. But that doesnt mean i start accepting whatever stupid rumor comes out just cause of hate or love for a player.

You take everything as a fan vs fan agenda.
 
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And the first guy to get angry at him for bowling a half tracker next ball was…Babar
 
everyone is not like you...

i dont support any particular group of players. I critisize babars captaincy and think he is one of the worst captains ever. But that doesnt mean i start accepting whatever stupid rumor comes out just cause of hate or love for a player.

You take everything as a fan vs fan agenda.
Errm Misbah says hello
 
And the first guy to get angry at him for bowling a half tracker next ball was…Babar

So the captain gets angry on the field at his player for "bowling a half tracker"

Wonder where we have seen that before?
 
So the captain gets angry on the field at his player for "bowling a half tracker"

Wonder where we have seen that before?
That was a positive characteristic for said person. Team responded well to it.

Babar comes off as quite petulant.

And that also prompted Dominic Cork to say “he didn’t mean it, go easy on him”

Commies know there’s some tension
 
That was a positive characteristic for said person. Team responded well to it.

Babar comes off as quite petulant.

And that also prompted Dominic Cork to say “he didn’t mean it, go easy on him”

Commies know there’s some tension

Do you want me to post some examples of the said person also to remind you of what petulant captaincy actually means?
 
Do you want me to post some examples of the said person also to remind you of what petulant captaincy actually means?
Different personalities work differently in how they come across. According to Mickey the team had absolutely no problem with him.

babar doesn’t have it naturally so when he does come out with it he looks like a
Petulant little child.

I know you want to support babar at all costs and prove he’s a great captain - but he just ain’t that guy
 
This rumor is false. But if I was the captain, I'd ask shadab to bowl to me, then I'd smack shadab so badly.

After that I'd tell shadab that I'm a bunny against quality spin and even I smacked you 😂😂, now go back to club cricket bro.
 
Different personalities work differently in how they come across. According to Mickey the team had absolutely no problem with him.

babar doesn’t have it naturally so when he does come out with it he looks like a
Petulant little child.

I know you want to support babar at all costs and prove he’s a great captain - but he just ain’t that guy

I want to support my captain and my country.

Not sure who you support but good for you.
 
I want to support my captain and my country.

Not sure who you support but good for you.
Did you support every captain? Serious question cos I wasn’t around here during sarfraz tenure
 
No idea regarding this rumour, but I would guess there is some frustration from the skipper regarding Shadab's bowling. He probably feels that Shadab should be one of his reliable options, but he's not at the moment. He's bowling full-tosses, half-trackers and is bowling too many pies.
 
Yes the signs of a fractured dressing room are all there!

Babar Azam asked if Shadab Khan underperformed in this tournament?

"Yes, Shadab Khan was bowling very well but just not taking wickets which is why you may feel that he was not bowling well; He is our best bowler, as is Mohammad Nawaz."
 
I see a Pakistan flag, I see the Pakistan captain and I support him when he is playing.

When the game is done and we are reflecting then I will make my views known.

Like I said, this is me.
That's a very biased way of looking at things.

I would support my captain, if my captain actually cared about his country. Babar does not, if anything he cares about making a friends 11.

This captain of yours that your supporting is the type of guy to throw zaman Khan under the bus by outright stating he isn't international level and didn't perform up to the international mark, but at the same time state that shadab and nawaz are good bowlers despite being the worst bowlers for Pakistan this tournament.

Our captain of ours is the type of guy to promote himself to open, and virtually cripple our t20 middle order. People are thinking Pakistan gave Sri lanka the minnow treatment in test not realising we'd have gotten smacked if it weren't for our bowling and saud and Abdullah chipping in. Every other batsmen didn't do a damn thing in that tour besides agha who chipped in and rizwan as well. And how does our captain repay saud and Abdullah the 2 people who single handedly won him the test series?

He brings one of them in a pressure semi final, with zero match practise and asks him to face a Sri Lankan bowler who dismantled India 😂. And how does he repay saud? He sends him at no 5 so that saud has to pinch hit and quickly accelerate cause their weren't enough overs to settle in lol.
 
Moin Khan on TV has his own views:

“You can rectify it before the World Cup. If there are differences and you sort them out before the big event, it helps in uniting the team even more. But of course, it's not good for the team that dressing room arguments are come out in media. If players have an issue with Babar, or if Babar is not handling the issue well in absence of head coach or team director, it's unfortunate because it's their job to intervene in such things. They have to be in dressing room to take care of these things"

“If I'm the captain, and you don't perform well, I'll take your name, look at you in the eye, but calmly tell you that we have a lot of expectations from you and we back you, but you need to perform better. But if I'm talking about you while not paying much attention to you, you'd feel offended. You'd think I'm making fun of you in front of others. Everyone has an ego. Man management is very important for Babar as well,”

“We saw in the entire tournament, I've commented about it earlier as well… no player walked towards Babar. Neither Rizwan came to him, nor even the vice-captain was coming to him. No one was going to him. It felt everyone was scattered, there was no unity"
 
Moin Khan on TV has his own views:

“You can rectify it before the World Cup. If there are differences and you sort them out before the big event, it helps in uniting the team even more. But of course, it's not good for the team that dressing room arguments are come out in media. If players have an issue with Babar, or if Babar is not handling the issue well in absence of head coach or team director, it's unfortunate because it's their job to intervene in such things. They have to be in dressing room to take care of these things"

“If I'm the captain, and you don't perform well, I'll take your name, look at you in the eye, but calmly tell you that we have a lot of expectations from you and we back you, but you need to perform better. But if I'm talking about you while not paying much attention to you, you'd feel offended. You'd think I'm making fun of you in front of others. Everyone has an ego. Man management is very important for Babar as well,”

“We saw in the entire tournament, I've commented about it earlier as well… no player walked towards Babar. Neither Rizwan came to him, nor even the vice-captain was coming to him. No one was going to him. It felt everyone was scattered, there was no unity"
Well said Moin. If only Babar & his friends would listen to him.
 
why the heck does crap like this always have to happen before the world cup?

they had all been getting along so well for a few years and now before a big tournament we start hearing this stuff? Makes no damn sense to me.
 
I don't think all is well in the Pakistan dressing room, but I don't think it's as bad as reports are saying.

When the team is losing these sort of reports always come out.

A couple of wins and all will be forgotten.

However the captain needs to show some mettle in having the courage to drop out-of-form players.
 
In a real life altercation between the two, Babar Azam would win. Shadab has more speed but Babar has more power in his hands.
 
Moin Khan on TV has his own views:

“You can rectify it before the World Cup. If there are differences and you sort them out before the big event, it helps in uniting the team even more. But of course, it's not good for the team that dressing room arguments are come out in media. If players have an issue with Babar, or if Babar is not handling the issue well in absence of head coach or team director, it's unfortunate because it's their job to intervene in such things. They have to be in dressing room to take care of these things"

“If I'm the captain, and you don't perform well, I'll take your name, look at you in the eye, but calmly tell you that we have a lot of expectations from you and we back you, but you need to perform better. But if I'm talking about you while not paying much attention to you, you'd feel offended. You'd think I'm making fun of you in front of others. Everyone has an ego. Man management is very important for Babar as well,”

We saw in the entire tournament, I've commented about it earlier as well… no player walked towards Babar. Neither Rizwan came to him, nor even the vice-captain was coming to him. No one was going to him. It felt everyone was scattered, there was no unity"
When Babar was made captain, he complained that Hafeez and co were always forcing him to do so and so. Thus, PCB made it a policy that no one bother Babar like that. Thus, it seems the policy is still being followed.
 
No smoke without fire so definitely there is something fishy within team after humiliated by Indian cricket team
 
There are plenty of sources reporting dressing room bust up between Babar and Shaheen

Shaheen has a tendency to be badtameez with anyone at any time.
 
Well here is a question for you all. Have you ever lived in a family, experienced a workplace, played in team…. Where there is no dynsfunction?

We all have it. We won’t exist without dysfunction. It’s dysfunction that fuels progress. We learn from each other, correct our mistakes and get better. It’s only a bad thing when it takes over progress.

I don’t doubt the news here. But don’t let it bother you much. If we start winning, it means it was a good thing to have happened.
 
There are plenty of sources reporting dressing room bust up between Babar and Shaheen

Shaheen has a tendency to be badtameez with anyone at any time.

Babar was having a go at Shadab and stone of the other so called Super Star struck players in the team and Shaheen stepped in asking Babar to remain positive and acknowledge the good performances from Abdullah Shafiq, Rizwan, Iftikhar and Zaman Khan.

Babar responded don't lecture me.
 
Babar was having a go at Shadab and stone of the other so called Super Star struck players in the team and Shaheen stepped in asking Babar to remain positive and acknowledge the good performances from Abdullah Shafiq, Rizwan, Iftikhar and Zaman Khan.

Babar responded don't lecture me.
Good from Babar
 
Babar was having a go at Shadab and stone of the other so called Super Star struck players in the team and Shaheen stepped in asking Babar to remain positive and acknowledge the good performances from Abdullah Shafiq, Rizwan, Iftikhar and Zaman Khan.

Babar responded don't lecture me.
I support Babar on this one..
 
Babar was having a go at Shadab and stone of the other so called Super Star struck players in the team and Shaheen stepped in asking Babar to remain positive and acknowledge the good performances from Abdullah Shafiq, Rizwan, Iftikhar and Zaman Khan.

Babar responded don't lecture me.
If this statement holds true, then I stand with Babar, and so should anyone who wishes well for Pakistan cricket. It's essential that we move away from the habit of excessively celebrating individual performances and instead concentrate on the ultimate goal, which is winning matches. This mindset has a deep-seated history in Pakistan cricket. For instance, we even celebrated with a cake when Asad Shafiq scored 130 against Australia, despite Pakistan losing the match by a mere 16 runs. This match could have been a historic test cricket chase. Until we discard the mentality of winning hearts and kidneys over winning matches, we will never improve our game.
 
No proper source has reported this.

All reports are based upon one underlying report which everyone is copying

We have some here salivating and hoping for a rift - which simply isn't there.

My sympathies for these tortured souls.
 
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Babar was having a go at Shadab and stone of the other so called Super Star struck players in the team and Shaheen stepped in asking Babar to remain positive and acknowledge the good performances from Abdullah Shafiq, Rizwan, Iftikhar and Zaman Khan.

Babar responded don't lecture me.

Babar standing up for himself here and i like that from him. The leader has to be tough at times.

Shaheen Shah didn’t have to interfere in this like that with such soft comments.
 
There are plenty of sources reporting dressing room bust up between Babar and Shaheen

Shaheen has a tendency to be badtameez with anyone at any time.
Not plenty - just one base report
 
The players can respond to Babar about his on field captaincy blunders with his field placings and bowling changes which cost Pakistan big time ie having third man up when we needed 6 off two deliveries, having fielders on the boundary and only 2 fielders in the ring when two runs were needed off one delivery.

Babar has cost Pakistan so many games with his incompetent captaincy its not even funny. Plus it doesn't help that not once has he led from the front vs big teams in ICC events as Pakistani captain.

If he is venting too the team in tough times and throwing people under the bus then his players will also lash out at the captain as well.
 
The players can respond to Babar about his on field captaincy blunders with his field placings and bowling changes which cost Pakistan big time ie having third man up when we needed 6 off two deliveries, having fielders on the boundary and only 2 fielders in the ring when two runs were needed off one delivery.

Babar has cost Pakistan so many games with his incompetent captaincy its not even funny. Plus it doesn't help that not once has he led from the front vs big teams in ICC events as Pakistani captain.

If he is venting too the team in tough times and throwing people under the bus then his players will also lash out at the captain as well.
So apparently it was Rizwan doing all the field settings in the last 10 overs or so

So why is Babar taking the blame? Are his senior advisors equally as incompetent?
 
So apparently it was Rizwan doing all the field settings in the last 10 overs or so

So why is Babar taking the blame? Are his senior advisors equally as incompetent?
wait what? sourcee plz
 
So apparently it was Rizwan doing all the field settings in the last 10 overs or so

So why is Babar taking the blame? Are his senior advisors equally as incompetent?
no i dont think so, because at that time rizwan was only interested in fake appeals and was jumping around after collecting the ball as if the ball were made of metal.
 
Source? That’s what all of you were saying in the match thread

Rizwan took control of field settings, and he apparently brought pakistan back in the game
He asked u for a source and you thrown on all the members to get ur proof right. :D

It was not like that, Babar was controling the field, senior players can only suggest you anything but still its ur call to make happen or not.
 
Journalists now a day forget journalistic ethics; in the race of braking news earlier most of the time they misinform or break fake news and this practice is a norm now a day; To be honest fed up with this system.
 
He asked u for a source and you thrown on all the members to get ur proof right. :D

It was not like that, Babar was controling the field, senior players can only suggest you anything but still its ur call to make happen or not.
Bhai Jaan I will always give reality checks to delusional fans. I actually saw Rizwan doing a couple of changes in the field but that’s not like he took control over a confused/dumbfounded Babar. Keepers are allowed to make changes in the field due to the view they have.

However there were definitely people assuming that Rizwan had taken complete control (portraying him as the right candidate to lead). I ask them, if the field placements were wrong, does that mean Babar’s senior advisors are equally to blame for his pathetic field settings?
 
So basically no one is really contributing to this thread, might as well I do it.

The issues started back in Ramazan, when Pakistan had a 3 match series with Afghanistan. Shaheen was to be made captain by Najem Sethi. He phone Shaheen told him this and Shaheen accepted it. Later when this news came on media, fans went crazy. Babar and Rizwan were very unhappy with Shaheen that before accepting the captaincy he should had told them atleast. Thats when Shaheen decided against taking it and than also coming on media and saying he is not taking captaincy.

Also, recently Shahid Afridi just reported that when he was selector there were so many internal issues between players and the captain and the team management. So the tracks match.

Now than came the test series against Sri lanka. Nauman Ali was bowling from one end, but Shaheen asked babar he wanted to have a spell, but babar said he wanted to continue with Nauman as he was doing well. Now Shaheen was not happy with Babar that has not giving him his bowling spell

Now coming to Asia Cup, when they out of the tournament, Babar first started with his own self criticism. Than he said we have many superstars in the team whose focus is on their glamor (which is actually very true), but they dont perform in ground. This was the usual speech by Babar.

So now Babar than critisized his senior players (rightly so), that they get extended chances even after soo many failiures. Shaheen stood up from his place and said that kaptaan atleast show support to the guys that performed well today( this is something that LQ do in there dressing room where they do cringe clapping for every performer). Shaheen than took names of Rizwan, Abdullah Shafique, Zaman Khan and Iftikhar's. Babar than said he knows who is doing well and who is not doing well and who is not able to perform well. On this last point both babar and shaheen had exchange of words.

Grant brent and rizwan than intervened

Shaheen than also had exchange of words with the coaching staff aswell.

Babar was soo unhappy with this mess that he did only a 5 min press conference and did not go back to the dressing room and went straight to the team bus. Landed in Pakistan, went straight home without talking to anyone.

Another point to ponder is that whenever Pakistan lost, Babar would come on twitter to say stuff but this time he did not.

Source: Ijaz from Bol News
 
So basically no one is really contributing to this thread, might as well I do it.

The issues started back in Ramazan, when Pakistan had a 3 match series with Afghanistan. Shaheen was to be made captain by Najem Sethi. He phone Shaheen told him this and Shaheen accepted it. Later when this news came on media, fans went crazy. Babar and Rizwan were very unhappy with Shaheen that before accepting the captaincy he should had told them atleast. Thats when Shaheen decided against taking it and than also coming on media and saying he is not taking captaincy.

Also, recently Shahid Afridi just reported that when he was selector there were so many internal issues between players and the captain and the team management. So the tracks match.

Now than came the test series against Sri lanka. Nauman Ali was bowling from one end, but Shaheen asked babar he wanted to have a spell, but babar said he wanted to continue with Nauman as he was doing well. Now Shaheen was not happy with Babar that has not giving him his bowling spell

Now coming to Asia Cup, when they out of the tournament, Babar first started with his own self criticism. Than he said we have many superstars in the team whose focus is on their glamor (which is actually very true), but they dont perform in ground. This was the usual speech by Babar.

So now Babar than critisized his senior players (rightly so), that they get extended chances even after soo many failiures. Shaheen stood up from his place and said that kaptaan atleast show support to the guys that performed well today( this is something that LQ do in there dressing room where they do cringe clapping for every performer). Shaheen than took names of Rizwan, Abdullah Shafique, Zaman Khan and Iftikhar's. Babar than said he knows who is doing well and who is not doing well and who is not able to perform well. On this last point both babar and shaheen had exchange of words.

Grant brent and rizwan than intervened

Shaheen than also had exchange of words with the coaching staff aswell.

Babar was soo unhappy with this mess that he did only a 5 min press conference and did not go back to the dressing room and went straight to the team bus. Landed in Pakistan, went straight home without talking to anyone.

Another point to ponder is that whenever Pakistan lost, Babar would come on twitter to say stuff but this time he did not.

Source: Ijaz from Bol News
Sounds like a mess.

All it took it was one loss to India in a non-consequential tournament.

huh.
 
So basically no one is really contributing to this thread, might as well I do it.

The issues started back in Ramazan, when Pakistan had a 3 match series with Afghanistan. Shaheen was to be made captain by Najem Sethi. He phone Shaheen told him this and Shaheen accepted it. Later when this news came on media, fans went crazy. Babar and Rizwan were very unhappy with Shaheen that before accepting the captaincy he should had told them atleast. Thats when Shaheen decided against taking it and than also coming on media and saying he is not taking captaincy.

Also, recently Shahid Afridi just reported that when he was selector there were so many internal issues between players and the captain and the team management. So the tracks match.

Now than came the test series against Sri lanka. Nauman Ali was bowling from one end, but Shaheen asked babar he wanted to have a spell, but babar said he wanted to continue with Nauman as he was doing well. Now Shaheen was not happy with Babar that has not giving him his bowling spell

Now coming to Asia Cup, when they out of the tournament, Babar first started with his own self criticism. Than he said we have many superstars in the team whose focus is on their glamor (which is actually very true), but they dont perform in ground. This was the usual speech by Babar.

So now Babar than critisized his senior players (rightly so), that they get extended chances even after soo many failiures. Shaheen stood up from his place and said that kaptaan atleast show support to the guys that performed well today( this is something that LQ do in there dressing room where they do cringe clapping for every performer). Shaheen than took names of Rizwan, Abdullah Shafique, Zaman Khan and Iftikhar's. Babar than said he knows who is doing well and who is not doing well and who is not able to perform well. On this last point both babar and shaheen had exchange of words.

Grant brent and rizwan than intervened

Shaheen than also had exchange of words with the coaching staff aswell.

Babar was soo unhappy with this mess that he did only a 5 min press conference and did not go back to the dressing room and went straight to the team bus. Landed in Pakistan, went straight home without talking to anyone.

Another point to ponder is that whenever Pakistan lost, Babar would come on twitter to say stuff but this time he did not.

Source: Ijaz from Bol News
Babar did nothing wrong. Unnecessarily appreciating the team when you have been brutally kicked out of a major tournament, would be stupidity of the highest order.

Shaheen was one of the reasons we got kicked out and he needs to be reigned in. His awful bowling performances were instrumental in India and Sri Lanka mauling us. First Shadab, now Shaheen, where do these non-performers get the guts to even utter one word? How do they not have any shame?

Shaheen should be ashamed and hurt by the fact that Pakistan fans think Naseem’s injury has pretty much sealed Pakistan’s fate in the World Cup.
 
Altercations are quite common among players of all teams. As long as they did not physically fight, exchange of words must be expected after a bad loss.
 
So basically no one is really contributing to this thread, might as well I do it.

The issues started back in Ramazan, when Pakistan had a 3 match series with Afghanistan. Shaheen was to be made captain by Najem Sethi. He phone Shaheen told him this and Shaheen accepted it. Later when this news came on media, fans went crazy. Babar and Rizwan were very unhappy with Shaheen that before accepting the captaincy he should had told them atleast. Thats when Shaheen decided against taking it and than also coming on media and saying he is not taking captaincy.

Also, recently Shahid Afridi just reported that when he was selector there were so many internal issues between players and the captain and the team management. So the tracks match.

Now than came the test series against Sri lanka. Nauman Ali was bowling from one end, but Shaheen asked babar he wanted to have a spell, but babar said he wanted to continue with Nauman as he was doing well. Now Shaheen was not happy with Babar that has not giving him his bowling spell

Now coming to Asia Cup, when they out of the tournament, Babar first started with his own self criticism. Than he said we have many superstars in the team whose focus is on their glamor (which is actually very true), but they dont perform in ground. This was the usual speech by Babar.

So now Babar than critisized his senior players (rightly so), that they get extended chances even after soo many failiures. Shaheen stood up from his place and said that kaptaan atleast show support to the guys that performed well today( this is something that LQ do in there dressing room where they do cringe clapping for every performer). Shaheen than took names of Rizwan, Abdullah Shafique, Zaman Khan and Iftikhar's. Babar than said he knows who is doing well and who is not doing well and who is not able to perform well. On this last point both babar and shaheen had exchange of words.

Grant brent and rizwan than intervened

Shaheen than also had exchange of words with the coaching staff aswell.

Babar was soo unhappy with this mess that he did only a 5 min press conference and did not go back to the dressing room and went straight to the team bus. Landed in Pakistan, went straight home without talking to anyone.

Another point to ponder is that whenever Pakistan lost, Babar would come on twitter to say stuff but this time he did not.

Source: Ijaz from Bol News
Shaheen is badtameez

He will be brought down to earth very soon. Shubman Giil will make sure of it.
 
Altercations are quite common among players of all teams. As long as they did not physically fight, exchange of words must be expected after a bad loss.
Why?

The captain is rightly telling them off. They should shut up. Shaheen for a long time has been acting too big for his shoes
 
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The players had to undergo ridiculous amounts of travel in this series.

No doubt that contributed to the lack of patience in the dressing room.

The Asia Cup was the worst thing that could have happened to this Pakistan side.
 
Oh no! 2 Pakistan players having it out in the dressing room!

Ponting, Clarke, Kitach, Botham, Chappel, Ganguly, Dravid, Tendulkar, Strauss, Pietersen, Kohli, Rohit - to name but a few - have all had dressing room 'fights'.

How is this even news?
 
Apparently Babar has complained about Shaheen and Shadab to Zaka Ashraf that they didn't have the right attitude and had undermined his authority in the Asia Cup.

Zaka requested Babar to consider Mohd Amir but Babar wasn't keen because of his fixing history and the fact Amir has not been complimentary to Babar in the media.

The names of Haider Ali, Hassan Ali, Abrar Ahmed, Imad Wasim, Sarfaraz Ahmed have also been floated in the selection meeting as well.

Complete panic button by the PCB.
 
I don't think all is well in the Pakistan dressing room, but I don't think it's as bad as reports are saying.

When the team is losing these sort of reports always come out.

A couple of wins and all will be forgotten.

However the captain needs to show some mettle in having the courage to drop out-of-form players.'


Rumors are about Bobby and SSA have a disagreement that got slightly heated . While babar was calling out teh team for bad performances SSA chimed in by saying how about we appreciate the good performances too . Babar seemed was frustrated with that . I am sure you already know this , its not THAT well guarded information .Anyone close to the team has a pretty good idea of what went down .
 
Rumors are about Bobby and SSA have a disagreement that got slightly heated . While babar was calling out teh team for bad performances SSA chimed in by saying how about we appreciate the good performances too . Babar seemed was frustrated with that . I am sure you already know this , its not THAT well guarded information .Anyone close to the team has a pretty good idea of what went down .
Well these are still the rumours, it happens all the time just before the worldcup.
 
The players had to undergo ridiculous amounts of travel in this series.

No doubt that contributed to the lack of patience in the dressing room.

The Asia Cup was the worst thing that could have happened to this Pakistan side.
They travel business class. How is that an excuse?
 
They travel business class. How is that an excuse?
Travelling has its own hassles even if you choose to travel in first class.

Obviously it shouldnt be any excuse but it make u a bit tired travelling all day, packing, arrangments, check-ins etc
 
Apparently Babar has complained about Shaheen and Shadab to Zaka Ashraf that they didn't have the right attitude and had undermined his authority in the Asia Cup.

Zaka requested Babar to consider Mohd Amir but Babar wasn't keen because of his fixing history and the fact Amir has not been complimentary to Babar in the media.

The names of Haider Ali, Hassan Ali, Abrar Ahmed, Imad Wasim, Sarfaraz Ahmed have also been floated in the selection meeting as well.

Complete panic button by the PCB.
Well that makes no sense. Babar played with Amir in 2016-17 in the lead up to the CT, and up to 2019 in the World Cup. He also played plenty of seasons with Amir at KK. His fixing history has been forgotten in the players circle so this source is clearly providing bogus news.

Whilst I don’t like Babar a lot as a captain, I also don’t think the guy is stupid enough to put his personal ego before the country. He knows with the pacers missing, Amir is the right option for the country
 
They travel business class. How is that an excuse?
It is a very valid excuse.

It certainly would have had an impact to the team both physically and mentally. We don't know the extent but the damage was definitely there.

Let's just hope it isn't long lasting damage and the issues can be resolved.
 
Wrong again.

Some journeys were by road.
This schedule is absolutely gruelling even without playing cricket in between. Forget practice or mental preparations!

Who agreed this itinerary???

Add this to Babar's refusal to ever rotate anyone and the Asia Cup had recipe for disaster written all over it.
 
Babar did nothing wrong. Unnecessarily appreciating the team when you have been brutally kicked out of a major tournament, would be stupidity of the highest order.

Shaheen was one of the reasons we got kicked out and he needs to be reigned in. His awful bowling performances were instrumental in India and Sri Lanka mauling us. First Shadab, now Shaheen, where do these non-performers get the guts to even utter one word? How do they not have any shame?

Shaheen should be ashamed and hurt by the fact that Pakistan fans think Naseem’s injury has pretty much sealed Pakistan’s fate in the World Cup.
This - each and every word
 
Fight within the dressing room is absolutely fine, it happens in every team at every level. In a team sport, this is necessary rather than bearing a longtime grudge. The news should not have come out/ leaked. Something needs to be behind closed doors.
 
Well here is a question for you all. Have you ever lived in a family, experienced a workplace, played in team…. Where there is no dynsfunction?

We all have it. We won’t exist without dysfunction. It’s dysfunction that fuels progress. We learn from each other, correct our mistakes and get better. It’s only a bad thing when it takes over progress.

I don’t doubt the news here. But don’t let it bother you much. If we start winning, it means it was a good thing to have happened.
Some dysfunctions are beyond repair and doesn't trigger positive feedback. Case to case basis.
 
Fight within the dressing room is absolutely fine, it happens in every team at every level. In a team sport, this is necessary rather than bearing a longtime grudge. The news should not have come out/ leaked. Something needs to be behind closed doors.
 
Apparently Babar has complained about Shaheen and Shadab to Zaka Ashraf that they didn't have the right attitude and had undermined his authority in the Asia Cup.

Zaka requested Babar to consider Mohd Amir but Babar wasn't keen because of his fixing history and the fact Amir has not been complimentary to Babar in the media.

The names of Haider Ali, Hassan Ali, Abrar Ahmed, Imad Wasim, Sarfaraz Ahmed have also been floated in the selection meeting as well.

Complete panic button by the PCB.
If Shaheen & Shadab are truly undermining him & throwing attitude then he should absolutely ask Zaka/Inzy to install Aamir & Imad. That'll put the former two on check & will bring them back to their reality. Whatever personal tussle & ego issues he has with Aamir/Imad he should let go, at least temporarily. Bringing those two back not only will help him reign in the insubordinate "superstars" but it will also help him to solve his current bowling issues, at least partially.
My gut feeling is the main reason those two or anybody else is daring to question Babar's authority in the team has got to do with his own poor form. Out of the four top guys/leaders/golden boys whatever you want to call them only Rizwan came up with some sort of performance. Other three failed miserably in both matches. Babar can't bring himself to criticize Shaheen/Shadab properly because deep down he knows he is equally culprit, he also knows if he goes hard on them then possibly these loudmouths will call him out of his own failures infront of the entire dressing room which will be absolutely embarrassing for him. Someone like Shakib can call out his boys because he actually performed in some matches. For Babar his poor form couldn't have arrived at the worst possible period. Also WTH is Mickey or Bradburn doing there? Why are they letting this happen? Has Mickey really become such tone deaf & selfish that only thing matters for him is his monthly paycheck clearance? Why can't he control this guys, these were his boys, he nurtured them & protected them, have they really become so big that he is afraid of them? Finally the clique culture needs to be dismantled, it is toxic, it makes everyone delusional & selfish to the core.They start thinking themselves above all kinds of authority & accountability.
 
What was the nature of this altercation, has any report confirmed yet.

Was it just limited to verbal abuse or was there any pushing shoving involved.
 
What was the nature of this altercation, has any report confirmed yet.

Was it just limited to verbal abuse or was there any pushing shoving involved.
Seeing Shaheen behave on TV

I wouldn’t doubt if there were some physical altercations. The guy has a temper that can be provocative
 
Seeing Shaheen behave on TV

I wouldn’t doubt if there were some physical altercations. The guy has a temper that can be provocative

Wait, between Babar and Shadab right?

Shaheen also involved? He’s 6 feet 5 inches tall. Who would want to mess with him in that Pakistan team.
 
There is clearly a rift between Babar and Shaheen, as per several media reports. The altercation happened during a post-match meeting when Babar was criticizing senior players. Shaheen tried to defend players who performed well during the match. Babar behaved strangely as he left for the hotel immediately after the press conference and did not talk to anybody.
 
Babar did nothing wrong. Unnecessarily appreciating the team when you have been brutally kicked out of a major tournament, would be stupidity of the highest order.

Shaheen was one of the reasons we got kicked out and he needs to be reigned in. His awful bowling performances were instrumental in India and Sri Lanka mauling us. First Shadab, now Shaheen, where do these non-performers get the guts to even utter one word? How do they not have any shame?

Shaheen should be ashamed and hurt by the fact that Pakistan fans think Naseem’s injury has pretty much sealed Pakistan’s fate in the World Cup.


Shaheen is flying high after winning two back-to-back PSL titles. However, he and his father-in-law should understand the significant difference between PSL and international matches. Shaheen has a go-getter type of attitude that ideally suits fast/quick bowlers, but as a captain and in international cricket, this could result in many problems within the team, both on and off the field
 
Wait, between Babar and Shadab right?

Shaheen also involved? He’s 6 feet 5 inches tall. Who would want to mess with him in that Pakistan team.
Who cares about height and size? Someone in life will deck you if they have had enough
 
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