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Confirmed to make his debut for Pakistan in the 1st T20I against Afghanistan - Looking forward to a great career for him.

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Karachi-born 20-year-old Saim will open with Mohammad Haris, who has played five T20Is for Pakistan and announced his arrival in the last ICC Men’s T20 World Cup in Australia with his blazing strokeplay and bold intent, and has batted with him in Peshawar Zalmi during the HBL PSL 8. Saim comes into the side after a highly impressive run for Sindh and Peshawar Zalmi.

The left-hander played an integral role in crowning Sindh the National T20 champions as he made 416 runs in 12 matches at a strike rate of 155.22. He smashed 341 runs – that included five half-centuries, the joint-most in the season with Babar Azam – at a strike rate of 165.53 for Peshawar Zalmi in this HBL PSL at the top of the order.

Speaking ahead of his debut, Saim told PCB Digital: “Whatever I had done in my life was to achieve this jersey and now I want to do justice with this opportunity. There’s excitement and an element of nervousness as well as I never expected to play for Pakistan this early. But, since I have gotten this opportunity, I am going to do my best.

“It is very important to give a good start to your team in T20 cricket no matter what opposition you are playing. You have to assess the conditions quickly and make your presence count and that’s what I will be planning to do with Haris. We have been playing together in Peshawar Zalmi and we were batchmates as well. We enjoy good chemistry and our playing style is also similar – we look to dominate the opposition. So, it will be fun to play with him.”
 
Nice, receving the cap from the guy who lost his place in the team to Saim.
 
A promising knock comes to nothing in the end

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Not a good way to get out should have looked to bat another 5 overs hopefully he’ll get better and show better game awareness in the future.
 
He seems obsessed with scooping / paddling the ball at times.
 
He seems obsessed with scooping / paddling the ball at times.

Because he has been told that he is cool when he does this.

He is young and will learn but he cannot repeat this again.
 
He looked great on a pitch which was very difficult to bat on InshaAllah he will score a 50 in the next game
 
A promising knock comes to nothing in the end

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I don't want Saim Ayub to start thinking that such shots (when they come off) are what make him special. That would be a recipe for disaster.
 
Definitely one for the future.

I'm a little concerned though at bringing him in so soon at the international level.
 
Ended up flat on his back with his wicket broken

Not a good look Hope some lessons are learned from all on ydays debacle
 
Definitely one for the future.

I'm a little concerned though at bringing him in so soon at the international level.

This is the problem. After every PSL people and even some experts are hell bent on getting those who have performed well to get inducted into the national team.

Saim was being touted as the next saeed Anwar by some .

When they struggle, for what ever reason then we say it’s to soon for them .

Can’t have it both way.

Having said that Saim is only 20, still very raw and regardless of how he performs in the next two games is one for the future as long he improves.
 
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You keep correcting players they either lose their way or become anchors , the players need to be allowed to open their wings and given freedom for good number of matches without the axe hanging on their heads.
 
You keep correcting players they either lose their way or become anchors , the players need to be allowed to open their wings and given freedom for good number of matches without the axe hanging on their heads.

Exactly this. It’s what we did with Haider Ali and turned him into a confused mess. Yesterday’s pitch was a terrible one. Given his lack of experience, he needs to play with complete clarity and lack of inhibition. Sometimes it won’t come off. Doesn’t matter.
 
Exactly this. It’s what we did with Haider Ali and turned him into a confused mess. Yesterday’s pitch was a terrible one. Given his lack of experience, he needs to play with complete clarity and lack of inhibition. Sometimes it won’t come off. Doesn’t matter.

Who has stopped Haider Ali from playing his strokes? In fact what we see is him playing his 'natural' game without looking at the match situation.

Saim can play quick and sensibly without being reckless.
 
I don't want Saim Ayub to start thinking that such shots (when they come off) are what make him special. That would be a recipe for disaster.

He’s not doing it to show off. I wonder what opinion people had on Jos Buttler when he was trying these shots early in his career. Young players need to be given the platform to express themselves. Otherwise you get Haider Ali types, where he’s been given differing messages and plays like a confused lad.
 
He’s not doing it to show off. I wonder what opinion people had on Jos Buttler when he was trying these shots early in his career. Young players need to be given the platform to express themselves. Otherwise you get Haider Ali types, where he’s been given differing messages and plays like a confused lad.

I am not sure why you think he is being confused messages? yesterday he did what he wanted to do.

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Who has stopped Haider Ali from playing his strokes? In fact what we see is him playing his 'natural' game without looking at the match situation.

Saim can play quick and sensibly without being reckless.
We don’t. Haider rarely plays on instinct nowadays, but rather he plays strike rotation plus leg side hoicks. Compare that to the dynamo that debuted for Pakistan.

Is Jos Buttler reckless? Is Haris reckless. It’s called playing with a calculated gamble l, but with expression. Playing ‘sensibly’ means playing risk averse cricket. That’s the recipe of 120 s/r innings, and we already have seen how that works for us in setting competitive totals.
 
We don’t. Haider rarely plays on instinct nowadays, but rather he plays strike rotation plus leg side hoicks. Compare that to the dynamo that debuted for Pakistan.

Is Jos Buttler reckless? Is Haris reckless. It’s called playing with a calculated gamble l, but with expression. Playing ‘sensibly’ means playing risk averse cricket. That’s the recipe of 120 s/r innings, and we already have seen how that works for us in setting competitive totals.

Playing sensibly means to know when to attack and when to take a single.

When you get to Buttler's level, then you can take some more risks.
 
I am not sure why you think he is being confused messages? yesterday he did what he wanted to do.

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He did what he wanted yesterday. The point is that he needs to be backed to play his own game. I have zero issues with his innings yesterday. Trying to quell his game based on yesterday is taking away his personality from his batting.
 
Playing sensibly means to know when to attack and when to take a single.

When you get to Buttler's level, then you can take some more risks.

Buttler used to play like this even when he was a young nobody and used to fail. Thankfully he had Eoin Morgan as captain, who never tried to force him to play ‘sensibly’. We’re the same people who applaud when a batsmen hits two consecutive boundaries. Nothing wrong in what he tried yesterday. Young players need to be given the freedom to express themselves and fail occasionally.
 
The issue is he will come up against much better quality bowlers at the highest level than at the PSL.

He will have to change his approach slightly.
 
The issue is he will come up against much better quality bowlers at the highest level than at the PSL.

He will have to change his approach slightly.

What’s the point? Pick Shan Masood to open if that’s what he has to do
 
What’s the point? Pick Shan Masood to open if that’s what he has to do

I didn't say don't pick him.

What I am saying is that at the highest level you have to respect the opposition a bit more. Yes play your shots, go for the shots you rely on, but also respect the bowlers.
 
I didn't say don't pick him.

What I am saying is that at the highest level you have to respect the opposition a bit more. Yes play your shots, go for the shots you rely on, but also respect the bowlers.

Tbh I think Saim did the best he could on this pitch. He knows Omarzai from PZ and backs himself to go after him, he hit him for a beautiful six and also played a great shot against Farooqi too.

Saim is a good player, I would rather he trusts his Instincts that have got him into the national side at international level too.

Plenty of promising players becoming nobodies when they start playing for themselves at international level. Nasir Jamshed is a key example
 
Ok 1st T20 was debut, now the nerves should ease down play with responsibility authority & confidence
 
I think overall he looked great. Especially on a pitch which was tough to bat on it seemed he was overall during the whole inning the only batsman who kind of figured out the pace and bounce of the wicket.

His shot was very disappointing though especially more so considering Tayyab had already gotten 3 boundaries off of that over. Its a learning curve for him and he will definitely learn from that experience. I think Pakistan needs to play atleast one of Masood or Iftikhar need to play to guide the younger players.
 
Plenty of promising players becoming nobodies when they start playing for themselves at international level. Nasir Jamshed is a key example
Nobody is saying he should play for himself.

What's being said is that at the highest level it's not as easy as T20 leagues or domestic and sometimes you need to have a Plan B and C.
 
Looking forward to seeing him bat tonight. Good quality stroke player.
 
I’m sorry to say just another over-hyped mini sharjeel khan but less effective. Just doesn’t have a back foot game and it’s sad to say this but just not good enough.
Just don’t understand why none of these Pakistan batsmen can transform domestic form to international. Look dreadful when the real deal starts

No where near saeed anwar level and will average 30 in odis if we stick with him. I’d still with Imam ul haq in odis just much solid player
 
Has the intent, but not the consistency. Played some breathtaking shots in the domestic, but still averages in the mid-20s. The problem though is that even in PSL, BabRiz topped the batting charts followed by foreigners and unfit Azam Khan. Can't fully blame the system because Afghanistan's is even worse than ours.

Perhaps as an overall mediocre nation, keeping the head down and grinding is our only path to redemption? Perhaps these political revolutions and cricketing flash-in-the-pans are nothing more than distractions? Perhaps the millions of man-hours we waste on attending political rallies, supporting X cricketer over Y, discussing team combinations could be better spent elsewhere?
 
I’m sorry to say just another over-hyped mini sharjeel khan but less effective. Just doesn’t have a back foot game and it’s sad to say this but just not good enough.
Just don’t understand why none of these Pakistan batsmen can transform domestic form to international. Look dreadful when the real deal starts

No where near saeed anwar level and will average 30 in odis if we stick with him. I’d still with Imam ul haq in odis just much solid player

I have to agree with much of this. He also has a limited off-side game, very leg-side heavy, reminds me of Imran Farhat and nowhere near Sharjeel, let alone Saeed Anwar. Seriously lacks power, doesn’t have the fastest reflexes or back-foot game as you rightly point out and I worry about him and players like Abdullah Shafique against the better, taller bowling attacks outside Asia.

As for why Pakistan batsman suffer at international level so often, you’re picking the wrong batsman, the usual skinny, shorty-short types, no power, inability to get on top of the ball, obsessing over ‘technique’ (the most meaningless word) and form rather than the ability to play the ball on it’s merits and place the ball with requisite power and timing. These little weeds look great against often short, talentless domestic bowlers, playing all these innovative shots, but they’re never going to cut the mustard at international level and the obsession with ‘fitness’ i.e. being skinny has removed any vague semblance of power from their armoury, compounding their short stature and lack of footwork. Worst of all T20 cricket together with the Shahid Afridi brand of cricket has ruined them. The combination of short boundaries, flat pitches and humungous bats has resulted in players never bothering to learn to time the ball and Asif Ali, Haider Ali and Mohammad Haris are classic examples of this. It’s so easy to get the ball to the boundary baseball style that they never develop the ability to bat properly. It’s easy to see why Hafeez, a player who was never good enough to play for Pakistan in the 90s looks like Bradman, alongside (at times) Shoaib Malik even at their age, at least they learnt to time the ball, albeit poorly.
 
I have to agree with much of this. He also has a limited off-side game, very leg-side heavy, reminds me of Imran Farhat and nowhere near Sharjeel, let alone Saeed Anwar. Seriously lacks power, doesn’t have the fastest reflexes or back-foot game as you rightly point out and I worry about him and players like Abdullah Shafique against the better, taller bowling attacks outside Asia.

As for why Pakistan batsman suffer at international level so often, you’re picking the wrong batsman, the usual skinny, shorty-short types, no power, inability to get on top of the ball, obsessing over ‘technique’ (the most meaningless word) and form rather than the ability to play the ball on it’s merits and place the ball with requisite power and timing. These little weeds look great against often short, talentless domestic bowlers, playing all these innovative shots, but they’re never going to cut the mustard at international level and the obsession with ‘fitness’ i.e. being skinny has removed any vague semblance of power from their armoury, compounding their short stature and lack of footwork. Worst of all T20 cricket together with the Shahid Afridi brand of cricket has ruined them. The combination of short boundaries, flat pitches and humungous bats has resulted in players never bothering to learn to time the ball and Asif Ali, Haider Ali and Mohammad Haris are classic examples of this. It’s so easy to get the ball to the boundary baseball style that they never develop the ability to bat properly. It’s easy to see why Hafeez, a player who was never good enough to play for Pakistan in the 90s looks like Bradman, alongside (at times) Shoaib Malik even at their age, at least they learnt to time the ball, albeit poorly.

But the promising thing with saim is that he can learn if you seen him In the previews psl he looked really poor but this season he improved massively improved also he was able to adapt his game in the Afghanistan last game and surely you need players who can adapt to the situation.
 
A 3rd international duck for Saim.

His 7 innings so far: 17, 0, 49, 47, 0, 10, 0
 
The only positive thing so far is him not getting out slogging the ball ala Mohammad Haris. He has at the least tried to build an innings.

Has technical shortcomings for Tests/ODI's, but in T20 cricket one big innings could do him a world of good. Confidence could get his fluency in his batting back.
 
A 3rd international duck for Saim.

His 7 innings so far: 17, 0, 49, 47, 0, 10, 0

Given Pakistan cricket's impatience - a couple more ducks and he will be sent back to domestic cricket.
 
A 3rd international duck for Saim.

His 7 innings so far: 17, 0, 49, 47, 0, 10, 0

Not his fault.

He is undercooked and was set up to fail by a management so desperate for batsman we picked him waaaaay before he was ready.

We have made the same mistakes repeatedly with numerous players now.

If we just allow players to develop solid FC and List A records before international exposure we might actually start producing players rather than praying for diamonds in the rough.
 
Not his fault.

He is undercooked and was set up to fail by a management so desperate for batsman we picked him waaaaay before he was ready.

We have made the same mistakes repeatedly with numerous players now.

If we just allow players to develop solid FC and List A records before international exposure we might actually start producing players rather than praying for diamonds in the rough.

Something the BCCI does very well. Could learn a lot from their selection policies.
 
Pakistan Shaheens’ top-order batter Sahibzada Farhan has been ruled out of the upcoming Zimbabwe tour due to a right thumb injury. The 27-year-old Sahibzada had fractured his right thumb in a practice game during the 11-day training camp at the Hanif Muhammad High Performance Centre in Karachi.

He has been replaced by left-handed batter Saim Ayub for the six 50-over matches to be played from 17 to 27 May. Saim, along with Team Consultant Abdul Rehman, will arrive in Harare after the second four-day match, which will finish on 13 May.
 
saim ayub should have been included in world cup squad, he has an attacking player which can give a rapid start to the team.

Fakhar is useless need to ret rid of him now.
 
not yet! I am not sure what they ere waiting for.
The Asia cup caused a delay.

Otherwise they'd have announced the same team with saud, tayyab and Abdullah getting the boot for the typical 15.

Now they need to reevaluate everything
 
Saim Ayub made a promising start to the innings but could only add 20 runs from 15 balls in all important CPL knockout match.

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Though Saim still has much to prove, he has already achieved more than enough to replace Fakhar, like what Fakhar did to bump out Ahmed Shahzad back in 2017.


 
Carribbean pitches are not the most batter friendly as evidenced by low scoring games but Saim's consistent hitting at 140+ SR was exceptional.
Rarely do we see such clean and sustained hitting from a Pak batsmen. Beautiful swing of the blade he's got.
I wish he becomes our white ball opener soon and gives us that missing impetus at the top to make it easier for middle order accumulaters
 
Saim Ayub is strongly making his case to get an immediate call for pakistan in T20i cricket, He can easily be replaced with Fakhar Zaman!


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A great prospect!!
A perfect contender for the opening position that would give us a good balance between a consistent accumulator in Imam and hard hitting batsmen in Saim
 
Seems like fakhar days are numbered in lOi cricket .Also rizwan and babar shouldn't open Saim should be first choice opener in both odi and t20 .
 
Though Saim still has much to prove, he has already achieved more than enough to replace Fakhar, like what Fakhar did to bump out Ahmed Shahzad back in 2017.


Amazing shots - unbelievable he hasn’t been picked as a wild card for the World Cup.
 
Amazing shots - unbelievable he hasn’t been picked as a wild card for the World Cup.

Absolutely agree

His strike rate is amazing

Even if he hits 50 and is out in 5 overs isn't that good enough a base for the 'accumulators' to work on on?
 
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Absolutely agree

His strike rate is amazing

Even if he hits 50 and is out in 5 overs isn't that good enough a base for the 'accumulators' to work on on?
Problem is he will score 50 in 1 out of 5 innings and rest 4 being we are basically 15-25/1 inside 3/4 overs.
 
Saim Ayub is a raw talent that can be polished if he plays a domestic season in Pakistan. Surely, he was the one who was knocking on the door to make it to the world cup squad but it would have been too early IMO.
 
Well obviously even my Grand dad would be better than Fakhar...but Saim has done well which is good although I am not sure about him either too loose with lack of feet movement . He is young and will only get better to think he couldnt even get in the psl teams a season before so not bad
 
Well obviously even my Grand dad would be better than Fakhar...but Saim has done well which is good although I am not sure about him either too loose with lack of feet movement . He is young and will only get better to think he couldnt even get in the psl teams a season before so not bad
To put Saim right away into a world scenario without any exposure to the ODI format is not a good option for me. He might fail badly and people will bash him and the selector for putting him there without any exposure first. IMO, He will be in the team soon but not yet in this World Cup. After this tournament, definitely put him there to open with Imam if fakhar fails, and let's hope he gives his best.
 
To put Saim right away into a world scenario without any exposure to the ODI format is not a good option for me. He might fail badly and people will bash him and the selector for putting him there without any exposure first. IMO, He will be in the team soon but not yet in this World Cup. After this tournament, definitely put him there to open with Imam if fakhar fails, and let's hope he gives his best.
Translated: I trust Babar fully, I will follow whatever he says
 
Translated: I trust Babar fully, I will follow whatever he says
I trust this team, it is not about any individual. I trust this team to perform well as the team has already been announced and nothing much is gonna change. So the least I can do is to stay positive and trust the team, not babar only.
 
saim should have traveled with the team as a reserve for sure... i dont see no other batting talent that can come in team straight away for a top order spot
 
I trust this team, it is not about any individual. I trust this team to perform well as the team has already been announced and nothing much is gonna change. So the least I can do is to stay positive and trust the team, not babar only.
Ok, then just say that instead of waxing lyrical about too early and I care so much about him that I don’t want people to bash him etc etc.

Is it too early? Maybe yes

Do we have a great ODI batting lineup - no

Desperate times call for desperate measures
 
Ok, then just say that instead of waxing lyrical about too early and I care so much about him that I don’t want people to bash him etc etc.

Is it too early? Maybe yes

Do we have a great ODI batting lineup - no

Desperate times call for desperate measures
Time is gone for that desperate measure. Until someone gets injured and gone for good, there is no replacement allowed.
I want the team to perform no matter who is in the squad. These are the top guys (maybe a few changes are necessary in the squad) and they should play for Pakistan not for themselves or just to keep their spots. Saim is an excellent talent and is one for the future having classy and stylish-looking strokes, but he was not selected by the national selectors based on the fact that he was not selected for Asia cup as well. CPL performance is not the criteria I guess to be in the team. Let's hope that the selected squad does well otherwise lots of changes are coming and Saim is one of them.
 
As per my cricket knowledge and experience, he should play more and more first class cricket before joining PCT again. We have to stop selecting and admiring players on just franchise cricket performance. First class cricket is benchmark. Please follow these protocols
 
I trust this team, it is not about any individual. I trust this team to perform well as the team has already been announced and nothing much is gonna change. So the least I can do is to stay positive and trust the team, not babar only.
Broskie cricket has nothing to do with age or how many matches you have under your belt.

Fakhar Zaman is someone I like. He's a great player and won us the CT 2017 tournament and his 150+ scores are a treat to watch. But he's out of form, so much so that he can't even perform against minnows atm.

If saim ayub is performing, and he's a left hander and a striker and he's clearly shown the ability to perform against international players on overseas conditions then he deserves to be our opener.

The whole List A lack of experience is a weak advice. We literally have Abduallh shafiq who barely has any List A experience in our international squad. He had very little test, odi or t20 experience before being automatically called up.

Do you know why he got selected? Because Babar praised him after playing alongside him and was so impressed by his technique that Abdullah got shafted in the squad. Abdullah isn't a golden boy but babar is clearly in love with his technique and how he plays.

So please stop the whole expreince experience nonsense, it's clear that isn't the criteria of selection, it's simply whoever babar likes and does not like.

A performing player shpuld play > An out of form player especially if that out of form player can't even bash nepal, the only team in the tournament babar and Chacha stat padded against. Experience drama is nonsense in this aspect.
 
We have been hearing the word "intent" thrown around so much over the last 2 months from the WC and even in the Test series vs Australia. If Pakistan is serious about intent & playing a better brand of cricket, then they have to give Ayub a shot at some stage in Australia. Otherwise, their ramplings are just empty words. Him and Shan Masood are the only guys who can strike at above 70 SR in test cricket.
 
I'd be hesitant to chuck a young attacking debutant into a Boxing Day Test at the MCG. Again, it's a lack of planning. If they were planning on taking him along seriously then they would have given him a few chances to find his feet before.
 
I'd be hesitant to chuck a young attacking debutant into a Boxing Day Test at the MCG. Again, it's a lack of planning. If they were planning on taking him along seriously then they would have given him a few chances to find his feet before.
He should never have been selected for an Aus tour at this stage of his career. Should have been back in Pakistan playing the president's trophy and actually getting match practice.
 
I'd be hesitant to chuck a young attacking debutant into a Boxing Day Test at the MCG. Again, it's a lack of planning. If they were planning on taking him along seriously then they would have given him a few chances to find his feet before.
On the contrary it could be a master stroke as Australians don't know about the player. India got the benefit twice. Agarwal top scored both innings in the boxing day Test with 76 & 42. But rest of his career in Australia was not so flattering. India won the Test. Sundar made 62 & 22. India won the Test. Last year Chanders Junior made debut at perth made 51. Having said that who will he replace?
 
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