Saqlain Mushtaq's position as Head Coach has become untenable

[muqarrab]

It is not a mistake; it is the reality.

Great results come with great players. No team in history has ever achieved success consistently without having great players in the team.

Great results do not come with great coaches, they only have a small impact at the international level.

John Buchanan was Australia’s coach during their golden period, but if he was the Pakistan coach during 1999-2007 period, he wouldn’t have turned Pakistan into Australia. Neither would Australia have struggled without him.

The point is that coaching at the top level does not make or break the team. Pakistan’s problems run deeper than whoever is coaching the national team.

You could have Buchanan, Silverwood, Saqlain or Rameez himself as coach. Mediocre players will produce mediocre results, and that is Pakistan’s problem - too many mediocre players in the side and the ones sitting outside waiting for their chance are no better.

Pakistan has a talent/skill problem, not a coaching problem. Pakistani fans overemphasize on the coaching aspect and are always scapegoating the coach because they are not willing to accept that the players are not good enough and continue to hope for a messiah coach who would transform these average cricketers into world class cricketers.

I agree with the approach part. You need the right approach because right players/bad approach = bad results, but if your players do not have the ability to execute it on the field then it is not going to work.

McCullum is a bit suicidal. He got clean bowled in the biggest match of his career (2015 World Cup final) when he tried to hit Starc outside MCG in the first over and later said that he forgot to watch the ball. I don’t think a character like that would be the right fit for a Test side in the long run.

It is good to be aggressive but you should know when to toe the line. England’s major problem has been their batsmen struggling to occupy the crease and show temperament.

I am not sure how aggressive intent would help with that in the long run. It will be interesting to see how this Bazball stuff works in places in Australia and India though, and if he is going to tweak his approach which he should.

Thank you Mamoon, whar should we do with this?

Bazball maynot work, but John Buchannan Saqlain surely isn't working out for pakistan. Maybe we should bring back intikhab alam?

And pakistani fans don't overemphasize coaching, just like rameez, maybe you also need a re-think ?

 

[muqarrab]

Saqlain has an input in team selection but ultimately the Chief Selector has the final say.

We tried an experiment with Misbah being the CS and Head Coach but that failed spectacularly because he was incompetent in both roles.

Why is saqlian sticking around then? if he believes he is setup to fail, he shoudl step down. Why is he hanging around?

 

[Saj]

Saqlain can be a specialist spin-bowling coach. That's about it. Don't think he is good for modern day head coach role.

Pretty accurate statement that.

Pakistan needs a dynamic, young coach with fresh ideas and who is in touch with the modern game.

 

[Mamoon]

Thank you Mamoon, whar should we do with this?

Bazball maynot work, but John Buchannan Saqlain surely isn't working out for pakistan. Maybe we should bring back intikhab alam?

And pakistani fans don't overemphasize coaching, just like rameez, maybe you also need a re-think ?

Pakistani fans certainly do, which is why the coach is usually the biggest scapegoat. Pakistani fans should accept that Pakistan is a mediocre team and live with it. The issue is not the performance of the team, the issue is the expectations of the fans.

Pakistan is a middling team but fans expect and demand a world-class team. Whose fault is that? The team or the fans? The answer is simple. The fans.

 

[muqarrab]

Pakistani fans certainly do, which is why the coach is usually the biggest scapegoat. Pakistani fans should accept that Pakistan is a mediocre team and live with it. The issue is not the performance of the team, the issue is the expectations of the fans.

Pakistan is a middling team but fans expect and demand a world-class team. Whose fault is that? The team or the fans? The answer is simple. The fans.

If you a middling team you give it resources to develop the team to get world beater results, by giving the players proper support structure you are doing exactly that. And one of important ingredient is having a proper coach who works with methods grounded in the present day.

I expect the team to compete, regardless of talent, and i expect the governing body to keep the team necesarry tools to compete. Your response is emotional devoid of real world sense.

 

[Zaz]

Im afraid his team n him need to go

Pakistans fielding has been seriously awful under his reign and the middle order is useless No improvisation no intelligence

What improvements has he n yousuf brought to the team? The team has actually regressed under him in all depts

 

[Kianig89]

In all honesty haven't find one good thing under Saqlain coaching all subjective and resting on indvl brilliance

 

[Zaz]

Is there any point in asking saqi about this debacle today or shall we just blame the weather n life?

 

[MenInG]

The manner in which this innings is being played is nothing short of scandalous

 

[MenInG]

Shoaib Akhtar on his Youtube channel

“Pakistan middle order is not good. Plus Pakistan’s openers if they don’t perform, middle order gets into pressure. This is not the way to go into a world cup if you want to win the world cup. It is very sad,” Akthar said in the video.

“That’s why I had criticised Saqlain Mushtaq (Pakistan’s head coach) and others to get your middle order and batting order in order. Somehow, they are not listening. It’s very sad to see that Pakistan is not doing well. It’s disheartening.

“It’s looking dire. It’s not going to be easy for the management from here. Hopefully they learn a thing or two, start watching my videos (smiles) and improve,

 

[asadee]

Mohd Wasim would have been a far better coach than this guy

 

[zacattakk]

Saqlain has really underwhelmed as coach. I think we would be better off with a modern day foreign coach who can help us improve in limited over cricket. And we need a dedicated powerhitting coach for our batsmen.

 

[Saj]

The last information as far as I can recall regarding his contract was that he was given a 12 month contract in February of this year.

So that means he basically has about 4 months left of his contract unless he performs some sort of miracle at the T20 World Cup.

 

[shaz619]

Saqi has been perfect for establishing the ultimate authority in the team which is Babar, Pak can look for advanced coaches after his stint ends. Saqi shouldn’t be criticised, he did well based on his experiences and didn’t look to damage team unity or interfere overly

 

[Rana]

Saqi has been perfect for establishing the ultimate authority in the team which is Babar, Pak can look for advanced coaches after his stint ends. Saqi shouldn’t be criticised, he did well based on his experiences and didn’t look to damage team unity or interfere overly

But his press conferences left a lot to be desired

 

[Shafi]

What Saqlain needs to get another fluke win against India and he will be awarded 3 years of contact with more pay rise. Same goes with other coaches and players.

 

[Saj]

Did he not know the rules regarding substitute fielders cannot be captain?

Surely someone who has been in the game for so long would know that or check with the match referee.

 

[reversehook]

Did he not know the rules regarding substitute fielders cannot be captain?

Surely someone who has been in the game for so long would know that or check with the match referee.

qudrat ka nizam says just do what you want to do man, if its not in the books, the umpires and world will correct you, if they dont, it must be in rule book... bas tension nhin lene ka...

 

[Savak]

Unfair that Saqlain is respectfully seeing out his tenure

This guy has presided over the most disastrous minnow like record for our team at home against the three top teams in one year ie Australia, England and New Zealand.

Its unfair that he is being allowed to respectfully finish his tenure with zero accountability. Saqlain has done absolutely zilch as far as developing our spin stocks, spin bowling strategies and field placings in his tenure. Under his tenure the opposition spinners have habitually out bowled their Pakistani counter parts on both spinning tracks and flat Pakistani pan cakes.

As far as I am concerned he should not have any role in Pakistani Cricket after this as he has not shown an iota of competency and I hope future cricket boards take his Pakistani stint into account before deciding to offer him any roles with them.

 

[msb314]

The last information as far as I can recall regarding his contract was that he was given a 12 month contract in February of this year.

So that means he basically has about 4 months left of his contract unless he performs some sort of miracle at the T20 World Cup.

Well did reaching the final with this rubbish team constitute a miracle?

 

[MenInG]

Saqlain should be let go after the last ball of the NZ tour is bowled.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

This guy has presided over the most disastrous minnow like record for our team at home against the three top teams in one year ie Australia, England and New Zealand.

Its unfair that he is being allowed to respectfully finish his tenure with zero accountability. Saqlain has done absolutely zilch as far as developing our spin stocks, spin bowling strategies and field placings in his tenure. Under his tenure the opposition spinners have habitually out bowled their Pakistani counter parts on both spinning tracks and flat Pakistani pan cakes.

As far as I am concerned he should not have any role in Pakistani Cricket after this as he has not shown an iota of competency and I hope future cricket boards take his Pakistani stint into account before deciding to offer him any roles with them.

I agree. I was excited about him at first.

Should have seen this ineffective performance after the useless, low impact work he did with Saeed Ajmal.

Pakistan’s coaching staff have all become glorified cheerleaders.

 

[Saj]

Well did reaching the final with this rubbish team constitute a miracle? ��

I don't think it does for the PCB considering they have already said they are trying to appoint Mickey Arthur.

I think Saqlain was lucky to get the job. In fact I'm guessing that many people were surprised he was appointed in the first place.

 

[Savak]

I don't think it does for the PCB considering they have already said they are trying to appoint Mickey Arthur.

I think Saqlain was lucky to get the job. In fact I'm guessing that many people were surprised he was appointed in the first place.

Saqlain was an interim appointment. In fact he wanted to step down before the Australian series in 2021 but Ramiz insisted he stay and gave him a 12 month contract.

 

[Saj]

Saqlain was an interim appointment. In fact he wanted to step down before the Australian series in 2021 but Ramiz insisted he stay and gave him a 12 month contract.

Not the brightest decision was it.

 

[Savak]

Not the brightest decision was it.

Yes and that's why Ramiz has lost his position. The decisions made on captain, coach is critical

 

[Sherlock]

Recently during an interview Ramiz Raja claimed Saqlain's contract is up in January.

Suffice to say this series with NZ will be his last as the coach.