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Sarfaraz Ahmed cutting a lonely figure on the field - has he lost support from his side?

Fakhar zaman would make a boss captain. Although he can't perform miracles right away & fight the corrupt system on his own.

FZ might well be the best captain since imran khan.
 
Let's not forget Wasim & Waqar were useless captains and men. The golden generation in thr 90s should have won every WC and been the top ranked test team.

After Imran only Inzy and Misbah were good captains and leaders of men.
 
[MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] told us Sarfaraz would leave Pakistan in a better place than he found it. :)))
 
Never been a fan of Sarfraz as captain in the test team. However as regards one-dayers there is little other choice.
 
I told you months ago about him. At least you learnt now anyway.

I “learnt” and admitted my mistake during the Asia Cup.

The one thing I cannot forgive is his fitness; something which he has direct control over.
 
I “learnt” and admitted my mistake during the Asia Cup.

The one thing I cannot forgive is his fitness; something which he has direct control over.

His lack of fitness just show he has no desire to improve and really cares about his game. That is the worst person to make captain.
 
A team is defined by their captain. Just need to look at India Eng Aus NZ. The teams at the top the players look up to their captain. I don't think it's the case with Sarfraz. He just dosn't have the aura or presence at the moment to lead a team. It's badly effecting the team there is no unity at all, the body language says it all.
 
I don't know if this thread is meant to generate sympathy for Sarfraz, but it's not going to work. His demeanor and attitude on the field and seemingly towards his team doesn't inspire that.
 
He is the captain,if he need the seniors everytime why is he even the captain,not that the bottlers would have been of any help.
 
I felt bad for Sarfraz after watching the post match presser. The guy hasn't damaged Pakistan cricket like many 'greats' of the past have done. He is an average cricketer who got the captaincy and tried to do his best. Not everyone can be as assertive as an Imran and get things done his/her way. Sarfraz was an honest trier but he's neither a natural leader nor is he good enough to make this team on merit. However, it's not his fault Pakistan are such a garbage team. Bowling attack has been pathetic and batting still has fossils like Malik and hafeez .Players' lack of intelligence and inability to execute skills can't all be blamed on the captain. He needs to retire quietly after the world cup and move on.
 
Fakhar zaman would make a boss captain. Although he can't perform miracles right away & fight the corrupt system on his own.

FZ might well be the best captain since imran khan.

Isn't Sarfaraz the best captain since Imran Khan? Atleast he was when Pakistan won the CT final.
 
How can the captain of a team shamelessly yawn with mouth wide open in such a high intensity match? It seems they were really busy a night before, not sure doing what.
 
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Faf de plusis: we lost to India because they played well.
Finch. India played better than us
Sarfaraz: :my answer also same
 
This is why I wanted him sacked after WI defeat, because the players aren't playing for him. To see ta chubby and under performing player of the side, barking at the players when things go wrong was never gonna go well with his team.

I am looking forward to the revelations after this WC and you can always trust some uncle in the PCB to leak out all the inside information to the media :))
 
This is why I wanted him sacked after WI defeat, because the players aren't playing for him. To see ta chubby and under performing player of the side, barking at the players when things go wrong was never gonna go well with his team.

I am looking forward to the revelations after this WC and you can always trust some uncle in the PCB to leak out all the inside information to the media :))

One would also think Sarfraz would make a more sustained effort just weeks prior to the WC, to ensure he's in better shape, but no lets pile on the biryani, seekh kebabs, mutton ghost and etc until you can barely move behind the stumps.

What's even more pathetic is his insecurity - because of this there is no back-up keeper in any squad, where he has been captain. I have no idea how the management, Inzy and rest of the PCB complied with his demands.
 
I felt bad for Sarfraz after watching the post match presser. The guy hasn't damaged Pakistan cricket like many 'greats' of the past have done. He is an average cricketer who got the captaincy and tried to do his best. Not everyone can be as assertive as an Imran and get things done his/her way. Sarfraz was an honest trier but he's neither a natural leader nor is he good enough to make this team on merit. However, it's not his fault Pakistan are such a garbage team. Bowling attack has been pathetic and batting still has fossils like Malik and hafeez .Players' lack of intelligence and inability to execute skills can't all be blamed on the captain. He needs to retire quietly after the world cup and move on.

Mark my words, these leeches like Malik and Hafeez will fire against Bd and Afgh and be there next T20 WC too.

I am sick of it.I am utterly envious of Indian team. We are no compeition to them at all.
 
Sarfaraz had a purple patch in 2014 & 2015 but slowly started regressing from 2016 onwards and he has really let himself go fitness and foodwise and the results are in front of us now
 
If he truly has lost the dressing room during a WC then that is no surprise as its happened before. In 2003 Wasim wasn't even on speaking terms with his captain.

Pakistan need to figure out how/why we produce units which are constantly rebelling. What is wrong with us?
 
After getting Sharmas wicket Hassan Ali didn’t seem to happy with the skipper, don’t know if anyone else seen it but Sarfaraz goes to pat Hassan on the head and he moves out the way
 
The yawning gave it all away.

He was up all night because he was too nervous too sleep the night before.

On the other hand Kohli looked relaxed and focused.

Sarfraz had his go, time to move on.
 
The yawning gave it all away.

He was up all night because he was too nervous too sleep the night before.

On the other hand Kohli looked relaxed and focused.

Sarfraz had his go, time to move on.

oh plz. they caught him at one moment. he was yawning because he probably didnt sleep the night before because of the game.
 
If he truly has lost the dressing room during a WC then that is no surprise as its happened before. In 2003 Wasim wasn't even on speaking terms with his captain.

Pakistan need to figure out how/why we produce units which are constantly rebelling. What is wrong with us?

I can answer that.

Big egos, both the players and captain. Captain has power trips and players act out as no grown mans likes to be schooled.

This is double the case if the captain does not demand respect with his own personal performances, yet still tries to school others.

Combine that with a losing streak of 12 matches and it all starts to unravel.
 
One would also think Sarfraz would make a more sustained effort just weeks prior to the WC, to ensure he's in better shape, but no lets pile on the biryani, seekh kebabs, mutton ghost and etc until you can barely move behind the stumps.

What's even more pathetic is his insecurity - because of this there is no back-up keeper in any squad, where he has been captain. I have no idea how the management, Inzy and rest of the PCB complied with his demands.

You was at the game? :)

 
Well done to these fans. Sarfraz deserves this humiliation.

Not a fan of Sarfraz but this is too much. Kaptaan is already depressed and know fans are resorting to personal attacks, not good.

He probably does deserve harsh words but perhaps not such words. You can be critical without getting personal towards a player but I guess some fans who spent hundreds or thousands to be there let their emotions take over.
 
What a shameful classless people. What was security doing? No player deserves such behaviour, that too from own fans.
 
Let's not forget Wasim & Waqar were useless captains and men. The golden generation in thr 90s should have won every WC and been the top ranked test team.

After Imran only Inzy and Misbah were good captains and leaders of men.

Wasim was an excellent captain and took Pak to the finals of the WC in 99.
 
Let's not forget Wasim & Waqar were useless captains and men. The golden generation in thr 90s should have won every WC and been the top ranked test team.

After Imran only Inzy and Misbah were good captains and leaders of men.

Inzy was a good dictator, not a captain.

Inzi probably doesn't even know the difference between batting first or fielding...he was and still remain the lowest IQ individual to have played for Pakistan.
 
I felt bad for Sarfraz after watching the post match presser. The guy hasn't damaged Pakistan cricket like many 'greats' of the past have done. He is an average cricketer who got the captaincy and tried to do his best. Not everyone can be as assertive as an Imran and get things done his/her way. Sarfraz was an honest trier but he's neither a natural leader nor is he good enough to make this team on merit. However, it's not his fault Pakistan are such a garbage team. Bowling attack has been pathetic and batting still has fossils like Malik and hafeez .Players' lack of intelligence and inability to execute skills can't all be blamed on the captain. He needs to retire quietly after the world cup and move on.

Most pathetic comments who kept malik and hafeez in the team ? No team has someone who can bowl 92 mph on the beach
..hassan ali should not have played either
 
Most pathetic comments who kept malik and hafeez in the team ? No team has someone who can bowl 92 mph on the beach
..hassan ali should not have played either

You can Inzi the dictator for final team selections. Reports were already out that Inzi was approving final XI's and his presence in England lent credence to these reports.

Pathetic for you and other Inzi ******* indulging in regional bias by overlooking Inzi's damaging meddling.
 
You was at the game? :)


This video gives me very conflicting emotions.

His tactical performance isnt as bad as his recent predecessors but at some level he does not realise that captaincy is a full-time job and not just something you do once you enter the stadium. He has failed to set the standards of personal conduct (fitness, behaviour etc) off the field and not been someone you look up to as a thought leader for Pakistani cricket. A complete opposite to Kohli who keeps setting his own bar higher and higher and forces everyone else to follow him.

Which is quite criminal because being an athlete is like his only job. So maybe the way the fans are calling him out for his fitness is crude but they aren't wrong to do so.

As far as batting or bowling first goes... I honestly dont think it would have mattered in the end.
 
Mafia at it again, Inzi has created a forward block against Sarfaraz...

Imad will be Mafia's man and will lead the team after the WC.
 
That is pathetic. You can't insult him like that. Ranatunga with a big belly led his side to win a world cup.
 
Yeah, he didn't help his cause by being corrupt to the core and sold the country out unscrupulously.

Not to mention all the politics and groupings in the team... The 90's/00's captains had their own shortcomings
 
There is no sold proof to back up your claims.

Fans like you deserve the perpetual embarrassment that these holy cows of Pakistan cricket bring to the nation...

Go read Justice Qayyum report...

Ata Ur Rehman was convicted and given a life ban for accepting money from none other than Akram to underperform...

Akram was stripped of captaincy and only escaped a ban because he was Justice Qayyum's favorite player...
 
They are not playing for Sarfaraz but for their country. Really pathetic behavior from the seniors specially.
 
Mark my words, these leeches like Malik and Hafeez will fire against Bd and Afgh and be there next T20 WC too.

I am sick of it.I am utterly envious of Indian team. We are no compeition to them at all.

Malik and hafeez had no business playing this world cup. Pakistan paying the price for including non performing seniors.
 
Hafeez came back to this WC after injury, his form was good in the Aus, NZ and SA series. Malik is the one who didn't deseve to be selected.
 
It felt like Sarf's time was up. Most likely Amir would be the captain in the remaining games.

He had zero motivation and looked a dejected figure that had no idea what he was doing on the pitch as a batsman..

Almost seemed like the stress of captaincy was making him eat more since he couldn't handle the stress of being captain, and it was taking the toll on him mentally.
 
Wasim was an excellent captain and took Pak to the finals of the WC in 99.

Same tournament they lost to South Africa, India Bangladesh and Australia. Not exactly flawless as a team. That team had its demons and the end of that tournament sparked the match fixing controversy.
 
People blaming Sarfraz have never been in a leadership role/senior position its easy to throw stones from the fence, players not performing and too any other reasons
 
He probably does deserve harsh words but perhaps not such words. You can be critical without getting personal towards a player but I guess some fans who spent hundreds or thousands to be there let their emotions take over.

Man I felt so bad after watching this, subcontinent fans are absolute filth, you can't abuse the captain of your national team like this, this is not 90's anymore. No one deserves such words.
 
Man I felt so bad after watching this, subcontinent fans are absolute filth, you can't abuse the captain of your national team like this, this is not 90's anymore. No one deserves such words.

It can happen if you have won only one match from last 15.
 
Sarfraz should go and Imad should not be handed over Pakistan's captaincy.

Imad is a politician just like Malik.
 
For large parts of this tournament he's looked like a dead man walking.

No support, poor body language, confused, lacking game-awareness, poor decision-making and certainly not someone who can inspire others.
 
Common guys, the same team outplayed us (India) in Champions trophy final. All of you guys were praising him to skies and comparing him to Imran etc. These things happen in sports. You never know if we get to play Pakistan later in the tournament, they might repeat the same. Its all about momentum and handling the pressure. If Rohit got run out when he was 32, Pakistan could have restricted us to 250. With Bhuvi out of game that was an easy chase. Even yesterday, with 120/1 after 22 overs, most top teams will chase 330. Pakistan middle order is to blame. To win against India, its very simple. Put runs on the board, take 3 top wkts and Boom !! Game over.
 
If there is grouping against Sarfraz, he deserves it and has only himself to blame.

A non-performing captain has nowhere to hide when the team is losing. This is what Sarfaraz and his fans failed to understand.

When Pakistan fluked the Champions Trophy and bashed minnows, his individual performances were rubbish as well, but now that the team is getting exposed against quality opposition, he doesn’t have his own performances to shield his captaincy.
 
Fans like you deserve the perpetual embarrassment that these holy cows of Pakistan cricket bring to the nation...

Go read Justice Qayyum report...

Ata Ur Rehman was convicted and given a life ban for accepting money from none other than Akram to underperform...

Akram was stripped of captaincy and only escaped a ban because he was Justice Qayyum's favorite player...

Oh I didn't know about that. I thought you were referring to another scandal.
 
India is a better team in all 3 departments, Amir needed to repeat his CT FINAL performance for any chance that didnt happen. When one team is clearly better than the other than you need whatever player you have to really perform a miracle which Amir couldnt do this time.

All other reasons for defeat are just excuses and nothing else.
 
At least looked like a Captain in middle.

The only candidate for captaincy that would at least take it seriously is Shan Masood. He's got limited ability but at least one can't fault his commitment, going by how he's improved his technique through sheer determination and hard work.
 
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The tiger is roaring!
 
Same tournament they lost to South Africa, India Bangladesh and Australia. Not exactly flawless as a team. That team had its demons and the end of that tournament sparked the match fixing controversy.

They lost to Australia in the finals, but beat them in the group stage. I remember we lost to Bangladesh but don't remember about SA.

Point is, we got to the finals. No other captain aside from Imran has managed that.

Also led us to world series win in Australia. Also was a good test captain. He was obviously the best captain tactically since at least Miandad, and a better leader than Miandad in his second stint.

The corruption is a separate issue; I'm talking about smarts.
 
He looks like a broken man, feel sorry for him.

Also, having to do interviews in English doesn’t help as if he misspeaks it will cause another controversy - he should speak in Urdu and use a translator (a proper translator not someone like Mushtaq Ahmed who used to just make stuff up and add bits on when players were interviewed lol).
 
Problem is that Sarfaraz wanted to run this unit as a one man show without involving any of his senior players in decision making, but wants to blame them for not taking responsibility. Throughout his captaincy, i have never ever seen him consulting any of his senior players in onfield decisions nor letting bowlers dictate their requirements to him. He is an extremely egoistic & negative captain - always shouting & insulting his players when the chips are down, no wonder his team has figured out that he is on his way out & has turned its collective back on him.

On the other hand look at Kohli & how much he respects Dhoni’s instincts & experience in setting up a field. He has no egos taking inputs from Dhoni or Rohit Sharma in on-field decisions & gives complete freedom to bowlers to set their own field, that is why probably India as a unit is thriving. I have always said this, i admire how Kohli has backed his players - be it when Kuldeep was struggling or like yesterday when Kumar walked out due to a niggle, Kohli told him not to hurry back to the field. In his position, Sarfaraz would have bullied the main bowler to bowl out his overs.

Sarfaraz was never a good captain. Period.
 
If there is grouping against Sarfraz, he deserves it and has only himself to blame.

A non-performing captain has nowhere to hide when the team is losing. This is what Sarfaraz and his fans failed to understand.

When Pakistan fluked the Champions Trophy and bashed minnows, his individual performances were rubbish as well, but now that the team is getting exposed against quality opposition, he doesn’t have his own performances to shield his captaincy.

he had a good tour of england odi series in 2016 which earned him the captaincy after being named captain, he took things for granted batted himself lower down the order sometimes even below hasan ali and faheem ashraf and now itching to bat at 5 and 4 wats the use... should have continued to play at that position and play well which would have stemmed one of hafeez or maliks return or kept them on their foot to perform or leave..


Now whatever comes his way he deserves it....
 
If there is grouping against Sarfraz, he deserves it and has only himself to blame.

A non-performing captain has nowhere to hide when the team is losing. This is what Sarfaraz and his fans failed to understand.

When Pakistan fluked the Champions Trophy and bashed minnows, his individual performances were rubbish as well, but now that the team is getting exposed against quality opposition, he doesn’t have his own performances to shield his captaincy.

What a childish post. You'll learn how teams work once you step into the real world.

Grouping against the captain is NEVER justified. No matter how non-performing the captain is, he is still the designated leader.

Anyone who is found to have deliberately underperformed or did not cooperate with Sarf needs to be kicked out.
 
Even some of his die-hard supporters in the media are struggling to back him.

Although yesterday at Old Trafford, one chum of Sarfaraz was saying it's not the captain's fault at all, it's all Inzi's and Mickey's fault.
 
Even some of his die-hard supporters in the media are struggling to back him.

Although yesterday at Old Trafford, one chum of Sarfaraz was saying it's not the captain's fault at all, it's all Inzi's and Mickey's fault.

I'd agree with that chum, given Inzi's authoritarian track record and Mickey's lack of competence and relevance.

If Inzi wasn't the meddling micromanaging type who didn't stamp his approval on the final XI's selection, then I'd give credence to the notion of blaming Sarfaraz, otherwise it's all Inzi's fault.
 
In each game Sarfaraz has been over ruled by Inzi in player selections. Inzi has insisted on playing Malik and his other favorites, plus he has guaranteed selection for his inept nephew by not selecting a third opening option in the squad...

I'd say Sarfaraz has been setup for failure...and what prominent and visible opportunity to make him fail than at the world cup, only to install your mafia favorite as the replacement after.

Basically the mafia is using the WC as a biggest platform to put their coup in motion.
 
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