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Saudi Arabia is preparing to open its first alcohol store in the capital Riyadh which will serve exclusively non-Muslim diplomats, according to a source familiar with the plans and a document.

Customers will have to register via a mobile app, get a clearance code from the foreign ministry, and respect monthly quotas with their purchases, said the document, which was seen by Reuters. The move is a milestone in the kingdom's efforts, led by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, to open the ultra-conservative Muslim country for tourism and business as drinking alcohol is forbidden in Islam.

It is also part of wider plans known as Vision 2030 to build a post-oil economy.
The new store is located in Riyadh's Diplomatic Quarter, a neighbourhood where embassies and diplomats reside, and will be "strictly restricted" to non-Muslims, the document said.
It was unclear if other non-Muslim expatriates will have access to the store. Millions of expatriates live in Saudi Arabia but most of them are Muslim workers from Asia and Egypt.

A source familiar with the plans said the store is expected to open in the coming weeks. Saudi Arabia has strict laws against drinking alcohol which can be punishable by hundreds of lashes, deportation, fines, or imprisonment and expatriates also face deportation. As part of the reforms, whipping has largely been replaced by jail sentences.

Alcohol has been available only through diplomatic mail or on the black market.

Source : Reuters
 
Kroll said:
Its basically a first step to accommodating all the alkies that will arrive for the 34 World Cup.
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Also for the concerts, boxing, ufc and other events they are planning.

Many Muslims also drink esp those not living in Saudi but visit. They will get others to buy for them, some will be arrested im sure in the future.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Saudis are changing but not for the good reasons.
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I never knew this . :)

While alcohol is forbidden under Islam, Saudi Arabia had until 1952 held a conciliatory attitude to its presence inside the kingdom.
That changed after Mishari bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, a prince, shot dead Cyril Ousman, the British vice-consul in Jeddah, in 1951 for refusing to pour him another drink at a function.
A year later, King Abdulaziz imposed a total ban on alcohol. Mishari was convicted of murder.



www.bbc.co.uk

Saudi Arabia to get first alcohol shop in more than 70 years

The Saudi government plans a store in Riyadh for foreign diplomats - ending decades of prohibition.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
KingKhanWC said:
I never knew this . :)

While alcohol is forbidden under Islam, Saudi Arabia had until 1952 held a conciliatory attitude to its presence inside the kingdom.
That changed after Mishari bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, a prince, shot dead Cyril Ousman, the British vice-consul in Jeddah, in 1951 for refusing to pour him another drink at a function.
A year later, King Abdulaziz imposed a total ban on alcohol. Mishari was convicted of murder.



www.bbc.co.uk

Saudi Arabia to get first alcohol shop in more than 70 years

The Saudi government plans a store in Riyadh for foreign diplomats - ending decades of prohibition.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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It appears that crown prince MBS won't stop on lifting liquor ban only. He would also promote promiscuity, concerts and obscenity in the Kingdom that would soon cause it's downfall.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
It appears that crown prince MBS won't stop on lifting liquor ban only. He would also promote promiscuity, concerts and obscenity in the Kingdom that would soon cause it's downfall.
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He's well on the way, one famous female US singer, sang a song called 'Godess' which had lyrics calling people to bow down to her. She was also wearing attire, leading to police stopping her. She later condemned the authorities to give power to women.

The Saudi rulers were installed by the British to keep control of the holy land, now they are openly acting like secular liberals.

When the crown prince's father dies, there will be a conflict to see who takes control, remember he has many in house arrest. It may even spark some sort of civil war in the nation.
 
KingKhanWC said:
He's well on the way, one famous female US singer, sang a song called 'Godess' which had lyrics calling people to bow down to her. She was also wearing attire, leading to police stopping her. She later condemned the authorities to give power to women.

The Saudi rulers were installed by the British to keep control of the holy land, now they are openly acting like secular liberals.

When the crown prince's father dies, there will be a conflict to see who takes control, remember he has many in house arrest. It may even spark some sort of civil war in the nation.
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Totally agree with you bro,an infighting among princes coming in future
 
The Bald Eagle said:
It appears that crown prince MBS won't stop on lifting liquor ban only. He would also promote promiscuity, concerts and obscenity in the Kingdom that would soon cause it's downfall.
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obscenity, downfall?

Alcahol never caused a downfall of govts in West or in UAE

Pakistan has a factory that produces Pakistani made Beer, Whiskey, Gin and Lager. Its called Murree Brewary.

Serving alcohol to diplomats and foreigners isnt a bad thing and something that Pakistan and UAE does. Whats soo bad about concerts? I am glad that Saudi youth can now enjoy concerts and enjoy life.

The crown prince is bringing the country to 21st century and is rightly modernizing the country. He knows what issues there are in Saudia and making the right decisions.

Saudia is more likely to face a downfall if it does not come up with an economy that doesnt rely on oil that is depleting day by day. MBS has taken the right steps by modernizing and opening up the country.
 
Major said:
obscenity, downfall?

Alcahol never caused a downfall of govts in West or in UAE

Pakistan has a factory that produces Pakistani made Beer, Whiskey, Gin and Lager. Its called Murree Brewary.

Serving alcohol to diplomats and foreigners isnt a bad thing and something that Pakistan and UAE does. Whats soo bad about concerts? I am glad that Saudi youth can now enjoy concerts and enjoy life.

The crown prince is bringing the country to 21st century and is rightly modernizing the country. He knows what issues there are in Saudia and making the right decisions.

Saudia is more likely to face a downfall if it does not come up with an economy that doesnt rely on oil that is depleting day by day. MBS has taken the right steps by modernizing and opening up the country.
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Bro there are many things going on behind the scenes. They may be are not evident now but soon you will observe that.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Saudi Arabia is undergoing a transformation into a modern and digital country under the leadership of MBS.
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And this is great news.

Muslims have issue with this as they believe Saudi Arabia equals to the place where Prophet Muhammad grew up, but Saudi Arabia did not exist back than. The whole middle east was the Arab peninsula and Prophet Muhammad lived in Makkah and Madina which is known as Hejaz today.

Offcourse the concerts or sale of alcahol wont be taking place in the holygrounds.

It reminds me of Pakistani facebook users that start saying Astagfar and post sad emojis when the they sew greenary in Saudi Arabia. Bhai, day of judgement will take place either way, Saudia is a massive dessert, so a bit of greenary would make the living conditions on earth better for the locals
 
Major said:
obscenity, downfall?

Alcahol never caused a downfall of govts in West or in UAE

Pakistan has a factory that produces Pakistani made Beer, Whiskey, Gin and Lager. Its called Murree Brewary.

Serving alcohol to diplomats and foreigners isnt a bad thing and something that Pakistan and UAE does. Whats soo bad about concerts? I am glad that Saudi youth can now enjoy concerts and enjoy life.

The crown prince is bringing the country to 21st century and is rightly modernizing the country. He knows what issues there are in Saudia and making the right decisions.

Saudia is more likely to face a downfall if it does not come up with an economy that doesnt rely on oil that is depleting day by day. MBS has taken the right steps by modernizing and opening up the country.
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Sorry but its clear you must made this up lol.

Saudi alone have over 100 billion barrels of reserves. They can start looking for new reserves , its estimated they have over 270 billion barrels ready to be tapped. They will have oil for another 100 years or potentially have oil for many centuries to come.

The oil is just an excuse to liberalise Saudi Arabia.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Sorry but its clear you must made this up lol.

Saudi alone have over 100 billion barrels of reserves. They can start looking for new reserves , its estimated they have over 270 billion barrels ready to be tapped. They will have oil for another 100 years or potentially have oil for many centuries to come.

The oil is just an excuse to liberalise Saudi Arabia.
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My guess is it might be the demand that's more of a concern.

Oil demand is going to plummet in 20-30 years. Not to zero but enough to hit their bottom line and I think they want to prepare for this. The best way they can offset this risk is to either reduce the fixed cost (per barrel) or to build more demand in third-world countries.

On paper, it probably makes sense to diversify risk like they are.

There has to be political reasoning behind it too otherwise they would further lean on strict policies to maintain their hold. Perhaps it's what the locals want?
 
kingusama92 said:
My guess is it might be the demand that's more of a concern.

Oil demand is going to plummet in 20-30 years. Not to zero but enough to hit their bottom line and I think they want to prepare for this. The best way they can offset this risk is to either reduce the fixed cost (per barrel) or to build more demand in third-world countries.

On paper, it probably makes sense to diversify risk like they are.

There has to be political reasoning behind it too otherwise they would further lean on strict policies to maintain their hold. Perhaps it's what the locals want?
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Yes this makes more sense.

Electric cars, solar energy, wind etc are being heavily promoted in the western nations. Not they care for climate change but because they know the land of oil could be their enemy at any time due to their crazy mindless wars and genocides there.
 
These kinds of things were not expected from the Saudi state as a Muslim country. They have gone against the Islamic teaching and their downfall will start soon. Having too much oil is not am excuse to bring western culture to the replace Islamic culture. Not acceptable at all.
 
These things might suit UAE, not Saudi Arabia which is not just custodian of the Holy sites, but of the very fountainhead of Islam. But let Muslims be the judge as it is an internal matter.
 
CricketCartoons said:
These things might suit UAE, not Saudi Arabia which is not just custodian of the Holy sites, but of the very fountainhead of Islam. But let Muslims be the judge as it is an internal matter.
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Yes, you're right. Even though this things suit no nation, no Islamic nation just to be more precise, let alone a country like Saudi. They call themselves the savior and custodian of Islam and look what they are doing. Cinemas, alcohol store? seriously.
 
CricketCartoons said:
These things might suit UAE, not Saudi Arabia which is not just custodian of the Holy sites, but of the very fountainhead of Islam. But let Muslims be the judge as it is an internal matter.
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The holy sites are just a belt called hejaz.

Saudi arabia is a big country. The good thing is, atleast they are not ending up destructing the economy of there country just for the sake of theology.

This is not even an internal matter of muslims. But more like an internal matter of the Saudis..

We enjoy these things in our muslim countries but have issue when Saudi brings those same things that are already happening underground.

I think muslims need to first accept that just cause they are muslims, Saudi isnt theirs but belongs to the people that live in it
 
BouncerGuy said:
Yes, you're right. Even though this things suit no nation, no Islamic nation just to be more precise, let alone a country like Saudi. They call themselves the savior and custodian of Islam and look what they are doing. Cinemas, alcohol store? seriously.
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So its ok for you to have a cinema in your city but not ok for local suadis to have their own cinema?

Whats next? Astagfar, the saudis eat fast food fried chicken from al baik, and not the traditional food cooked on a bon fire?
 
Major said:
So its ok for you to have a cinema in your city but not ok for local suadis to have their own cinema?

Whats next? Astagfar, the saudis eat fast food fried chicken from al baik, and not the traditional food cooked on a bon fire?
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I never went to the cinema and there is none in my city tbh and I do not support these anywhere. This is my view, you all don't have to share the same thought bro.
 
There is no harm in inviting the BJP leader.

At the time of the Prophet non-muslim delegations would enter the city to speak to muslims.

The BJP lady is head of minority affairs. Millions of the people she represents travel to Madina each year. There is no issue with her coming and speaking on behalf of them.

There is also nothing technically wrong with alcohol being available to non muslims.
However in Saudi the initiative is under the sponsorship of the king....who is also self declared custodian of the two holy mosques. That's a big conflict of interest.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There is no harm in inviting the BJP leader.

At the time of the Prophet non-muslim delegations would enter the city to speak to muslims.

The BJP lady is head of minority affairs. Millions of the people she represents travel to Madina each year. There is no issue with her coming and speaking on behalf of them.

There is also nothing technically wrong with alcohol being available to non muslims.
However in Saudi the initiative is under the sponsorship of the king....who is also self declared custodian of the two holy mosques. That's a big conflict of interest.
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Yep your points are fair but bro its not just diplomats. On Youtube you find many other non muslims coming to Makkah and Madina too like Vloggers ,how is it possible? unless mbs has revised the policy on non entrance of non muslims in scared cities.
 
Under MBS many such things are going to happen in Saudi Arabia that we never thought of before because they consider it modernization.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There is no harm in inviting the BJP leader.

At the time of the Prophet non-muslim delegations would enter the city to speak to muslims.

The BJP lady is head of minority affairs. Millions of the people she represents travel to Madina each year. There is no issue with her coming and speaking on behalf of them.

There is also nothing technically wrong with alcohol being available to non muslims.
However in Saudi the initiative is under the sponsorship of the king....who is also self declared custodian of the two holy mosques. That's a big conflict of interest.
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Unless she has a vision a Hindu Temple was built under the Prophet(pbuh) masjid. :)

You are correct of course in general terms. However due to the BJP/RSS views, any Muslim ruler esp the custodian of the two holy cities, would demand she clairfy her views on Islam first? The Prohpet(pbuh) was stong when it came to the oppression of Muslims.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There is no harm in inviting the BJP leader.

At the time of the Prophet non-muslim delegations would enter the city to speak to muslims.

The BJP lady is head of minority affairs. Millions of the people she represents travel to Madina each year. There is no issue with her coming and speaking on behalf of them.

There is also nothing technically wrong with alcohol being available to non muslims.
However in Saudi the initiative is under the sponsorship of the king....who is also self declared custodian of the two holy mosques. That's a big conflict of interest.
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If the locals have no issue, who are we to whine about things that we find in our own country?
 
Hitman said:
What the hell is alcohol free beer?
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It is becoming more common in western countries and is common in Muslim countries for a while.

Some of them are nice and refreshing but others are a bit disgusting. It is weird to have a non-alcoholic beer bar, I doubt anybody wakes up in the morning and thinks today I could drink a pint of non-alcoholic beer. Usually it is just served in restaurant alongside food.

If you get the chance to try it, let us know what you think of the taste in comparison to alcholic beer.
 
Ball Blazer said:
That does not have alcohol in it. But I don't think so it will be alcohol free, that too for diplomats and travellers 😂
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How can it be classified as beer if it's alcohol free? Have you head of vegetarian meat? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
sweep_shot said:
"Vegetarian meat" exists.

They basically use plants to make it. It looks and tastes like meat but is actually plant-based.

Check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_alternative.

This is a veggie patty that looks like meat:

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They do but they are too processed , I turned off meat in 2010.. and i can assure you except Beyond meat none are close to meat tasting snd even BM is too processed.

Now coming to non-alcoholic beer (from too companies) once should see how its made, its not even close to same analogy of vegan meat..
Basically non alcoholic beer like Heineken 0% is made first like exactly as beer is made and then a process of Vacuum distillation is done to remove alcohol…

Now imagine vegetarian Biryani where chicken is removed from chicken biryani..
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It is becoming more common in western countries and is common in Muslim countries for a while.

Some of them are nice and refreshing but others are a bit disgusting. It is weird to have a non-alcoholic beer bar, I doubt anybody wakes up in the morning and thinks today I could drink a pint of non-alcoholic beer. Usually it is just served in restaurant alongside food.

If you get the chance to try it, let us know what you think of the taste in comparison to alcholic beer.
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It’s alright.. but i rather have Kombucha over that.. I drink craft beer which has good alcohol content and a bit of high is what i go for…

Imagine a non-nicotine Hooka with fruit flavor..
 
JaDed said:
They do but they are too processed , I turned off meat in 2010.. and i can assure you except Beyond meat none are close to meat tasting snd even BM is too processed.

Now coming to non-alcoholic beer (from too companies) once should see how its made, its not even close to same analogy of vegan meat..
Basically non alcoholic beer like Heineken 0% is made first like exactly as beer is made and then a process of Vacuum distillation is done to remove alcohol…

Now imagine vegetarian Biryani where chicken is removed from chicken biryani..
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Yeah. It has to be super-processed to make it look like meat.

Anyway, I have never tried vegan meat as I prefer the real authentic meat. :inti
 
There's a huge number of Arabs who are nowhere near as conservative as people would like to think .

And like most people, they are only religious when it suits their needs.

If allowing alcohol and cinemas was such an issue, you would have seen massive protests against these decisions.

I don't think it matters to them as much.
 
Major said:
Instead of calling others a kid or ignorant, maybe simply elaborate with logic and reason.

Again, question stands, How?
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Arabs. opening cinemas and bars in a country like Saudi arabia.. funding Terrorists in Sudan and iran... that is enough
 
Nikhil_cric said:
There's a huge number of Arabs who are nowhere near as conservative as people would like to think .

And like most people, they are only religious when it suits their needs.

If allowing alcohol and cinemas was such an issue, you would have seen massive protests against these decisions.

I don't think it matters to them as much.
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The locals are happy. But some joe sitting in a country that already has a cinema and bars has an issue with all this.

Its like being angry that why fast cars are being driven in Saudia, they should opt for camel rides....
 
BouncerGuy said:
Arabs. opening cinemas and bars in a country like Saudi arabia.. funding Terrorists in Sudan and iran... that is enough
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Is Saudi funding the RSF in Sudan? I thought that was the UAE. I don’t think the Saudis are doing that.

BTW, I don’t think bringing in concerts etc. is an issue but doing this in Hejaz makes me uncomfortable as that’s the holy land and should be kept clean. However, a lot of people live there i wouldn’t want them to be deprived of things that I myself enjoy like going to a cinema as I would be a hypocrite.
 
Patriot said:
Is Saudi funding the RSF in Sudan? I thought that was the UAE. I don’t think the Saudis are doing that.

BTW, I don’t think bringing in concerts etc. is an issue but doing this in Hejaz makes me uncomfortable as that’s the holy land and should be kept clean. However, a lot of people live there i wouldn’t want them to be deprived of things that I myself enjoy like going to a cinema as I would be a hypocrite.
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Saudis are having problems with Iran... Uae has problems with Sudan... all arabs here
 
Nikhil_cric said:
There's a huge number of Arabs who are nowhere near as conservative as people would like to think .

And like most people, they are only religious when it suits their needs.

If allowing alcohol and cinemas was such an issue, you would have seen massive protests against these decisions.

I don't think it matters to them as much.
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Most of the successful Muslim countries already have cinemas and bars. That doesn't mean that all Muslims are suddenly going to start sitting in bars getting drunk. These facilities are usually more to cater to the non-Muslim population, such as in Malaysia or Indonesia. Even in this case the bar is strictly for diplomats in Saudi Arabia.

The public already have religious scholars and muftis who can advise on religious life, there is no need for the state to get overly involved in minutiae of day to day living for ordinary citizens.
 
Awful. Should take a leaf out of Qatar’s book with how they didn’t buckle to western pressure and kept alcohol banned for the World Cup.

But then again, KSA family came into power due to western influence so the colonial bootlicking and pandering continues 👍
 
BouncerGuy said:
Because they call themselves deen k thekaydaaar.... Prophecy coming true actually...
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They dont actually.
Deen kay thekaydaar are those people that think that Islam is in danger so common humans need to take action and that is what Pakistanis do.


Saudi Arabia needs to run an economy, which they are.
 
Suleiman said:
Awful. Should take a leaf out of Qatar’s book with how they didn’t buckle to western pressure and kept alcohol banned for the World Cup.

But then again, KSA family came into power due to western influence so the colonial bootlicking and pandering continues 👍
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Saudi Arabia does owe it's existence to the western powers, but opening alcohol stores for non-Muslims isn't really comparable to Qatar's alcohol ban for the world cup. Qatar didn't allow sale of alcohol to the general public, and the same is true for Saudi Arabia here as far as I can tell.
 
Major said:
They dont actually.
Deen kay thekaydaar are those people that think that Islam is in danger so common humans need to take action and that is what Pakistanis do.


Saudi Arabia needs to run an economy, which they are.
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what is the title of the king of Saudia Arbia? Doesn't this make him self styled deen ka thekaydaar

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They cannot have it both ways, look to please Mullahs and also look to please Modernists. At some point, something has to give.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
There's a huge number of Arabs who are nowhere near as conservative as people would like to think .

And like most people, they are only religious when it suits their needs.

If allowing alcohol and cinemas was such an issue, you would have seen massive protests against these decisions.

I don't think it matters to them as much.
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Saudis practicise a form of islamic thought known as madkhalism that requires extreme deference to the ruler, as long as he at the very least remains a muslim that prays.

It is unlikely that their conservatives that were happy to walk around wearing burqas and leaving their women locked up at home are suddenly now all reformed modernists, and the molvis that used to enforce the streets to promote virtue and decency, overnight started to believe that what was haram yesterday is now actually ok.

So we can't gauge whether it matters or not to them too much based on the iron grip of the ruler.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
what is the title of the king of Saudia Arbia? Doesn't this make him self styled deen ka thekaydaar

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They cannot have it both ways, look to please Mullahs and also look to please Modernists. At some point, something has to give.
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They are the custodians of the mosque. But they have a country to run.

Once oil money runs out, the only thing to fund a desert is tourism.

People keep mixing up hejaz with broader Saudia
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Saudi Arabia does owe it's existence to the western powers, but opening alcohol stores for non-Muslims isn't really comparable to Qatar's alcohol ban for the world cup. Qatar didn't allow sale of alcohol to the general public, and the same is true for Saudi Arabia here as far as I can tell.
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Islam has always been about prevention rather than needing the cure after.

This is how it always starts. Dabbling in it a bit with the guise of “just keeping it for diplomats” and then the Muslims who witness it working closely to them will feel the desire to drink too, and it will have a (Allah forbid) a butterfly effect from there.

It’s the same thing with all the other major sins. Be firm in keeping away from them completely, because once you start making compromises here and there, those compromises will snowball into the Muslim society fully embracing the sin.

Same guidelines for fornication and shirk. Don’t do anything that is even a step in their direction.
 
Major said:
They are the custodians of the mosque. But they have a country to run.

Once oil money runs out, the only thing to fund a desert is tourism.

People keep mixing up hejaz with broader Saudia
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They can't have it both ways. Their source of power is through deal with mullahs.

I don't see any problems with them building cinema but they have spread fasaad all across the world and should also be held responsible for this.
 
Suleiman said:
Islam has always been about prevention rather than needing the cure after.

This is how it always starts. Dabbling in it a bit with the guise of “just keeping it for diplomats” and then the Muslims who witness it working closely to them will feel the desire to drink too, and it will have a (Allah forbid) a butterfly effect from there.

It’s the same thing with all the other major sins. Be firm in keeping away from them completely, because once you start making compromises here and there, those compromises will snowball into the Muslim society fully embracing the sin.

Same guidelines for fornication and shirk. Don’t do anything that is even a step in their direction.
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But that's the case for all Islamic rulers and nations. You won't be able to point to one that is any different, so why use different yardstick for the Saudis? As far as I am aware, throughout Muslim history the rule was always up and down when it came to Islamic puritanism. Just look at the Mughal rule. I think there is a tendency to view things idealistically instead of how they really were.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They can't have it both ways. Their source of power is through deal with mullahs.

I don't see any problems with them building cinema but they have spread fasaad all across the world and should also be held responsible for this.
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Yup we can agree on their foreign policy, but for us to say taht its bad he is modernizing his kingdom that is dumb.

Alot of these comments are coming from Pakistanis that live in a modern country. Who are we to judge how a Saudi should live his life?

There are people that live in Saudi Arabia and want to live in a modern world
 
So people who are living in western countries and enjoying their culture are lecturing Saudi Arabia on how to run the country. Lol :klopp :kp
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
But that's the case for all Islamic rulers and nations. You won't be able to point to one that is any different, so why use different yardstick for the Saudis? As far as I am aware, throughout Muslim history the rule was always up and down when it came to Islamic puritanism. Just look at the Mughal rule. I think there is a tendency to view things idealistically instead of how they really were.
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As custodians of the holy cities you will naturally hold them to a higher standard, as you should. That’s why this doesn’t sit right with many
 
Suleiman said:
Awful. Should take a leaf out of Qatar’s book with how they didn’t buckle to western pressure and kept alcohol banned for the World Cup.

But then again, KSA family came into power due to western influence so the colonial bootlicking and pandering continues 👍
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Here's a novel idea: don't shop at this store. Don't drink any alcohol if you don't want to.
 
Varun said:
Here's a novel idea: don't shop at this store. Don't drink any alcohol if you don't want to.
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Don’t think you understand how shariah works esp when it comes to a functioning society where you’re not just thinking about yourself but the entire ummah as a whole and protecting them from degeneracy

Your novel secular ideas have no place in a religious Islamic society
 
Devadwal said:
So people who are living in western countries and enjoying their culture are lecturing Saudi Arabia on how to run the country. Lol :klopp :kp
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Don’t you post 24/7 about a country you’ve never set foot in and never will? 🇵🇰 :asghar
 
Suleiman said:
Don’t think you understand how shariah works esp when it comes to a functioning society where you’re not just thinking about yourself but the entire ummah as a whole and protecting them from degeneracy

Your novel secular ideas have no place in a religious Islamic society
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These guys are the custodians of Shariah. I am sure they know what to do.

Leave the beer alone!
 
Suleiman said:
As custodians of the holy cities you will naturally hold them to a higher standard, as you should. That’s why this doesn’t sit right with many
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But most people who argue that they are custodians of the holy cities don't recognise Saudi family legitimacy anyway.
 
Major said:
Yup we can agree on their foreign policy, but for us to say taht its bad he is modernizing his kingdom that is dumb.

Alot of these comments are coming from Pakistanis that live in a modern country. Who are we to judge how a Saudi should live his life?

There are people that live in Saudi Arabia and want to live in a modern world
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What has alcohol got to do with a modern world?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
If it was secular then they would allow public sale and consumption of alcohol.
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They are getting there one step at a time.🤞

*I'm talking about the alcohol. Don't care about secular/communist/other labels.
 
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