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Saudi Arabia's crown prince promises country will return to 'moderate, open Islam'

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It won't be long until the Prince takes over from his father - the latter isn't young nor in the best of health. It will be interesting to see what direction he takes the country in.


Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, speaking at a major investment conference, has promised his kingdom will return to “what we were before – a country of moderate Islam that is open to all religions and to the world”.

Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud made the announcement at the beginning of the landmark Future Investment Initiative in Riyadh on Tuesday.

The country would also do more to tackle extremism, the prince said. “We will not waste 30 years of our lives dealing with extremist ideas; we will destroy them today,” he said when asked by Maria Bartiromo of Fox Business Network.

“It was not like this in the past... We will end extremism very soon,” the prince added, in his most direct criticism of Saudi Arabia’s conservative religious establishment to date.

Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy, is governed under an puritanical form of Sunni Islam known as Wahabism; it is extremist versions of Wahabism that are espoused by jihadist movements such as al-Qaeda and Isis.

In the wake of 9/11, the Saudi authorities have worked alongside the US and other Western countries to tackle radicalisation and terrorism funding – but have often been criticised for not doing enough.

The claims from Prince bin Salman will be met with scepticism internationally, as Saudi’s hardline clerics still wield much power and influence in the country. Rights groups continue to condemn the state’s human rights violations, the precedent for many of which is based on the Saudi interpretation of Quranic law.

Prince bin Salman, who was suddenly appointed heir to the throne by his father King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud earlier this year, is viewed by many as the face of the modern kingdom.

The 32-year-old is the driving force behind ‘Vision 2030’: Saudi Arabia’s long-term economic and social policy designed to wean itself off dependence on oil, and is popular for his reforms to the country’s ineffective state bureaucracy.

Last month, it was announced women in Saudi Arabia would be finally be given the right to drive, a symbolic move signalling changes to the institutionalised discrimination against women in the country.

While Prince bin Salman has built his reputation as a bold and socially liberal reformer, critics note his hawkish foreign policy. As defence minister – a position he has held since 2015 – he has attracted censure over his role in Saudi Arabia’s bloody intervention in the Yemeni civil war, as well as his aggressive stance on Iran.

The prince is also regarded as one of the primary decision makers behind the Gulf states’ recent cutting of ties with Qatar.

Also at the Future Investment Initiative, Prince bin Salman announced the creation of Neom, a new $500bn (£381m) independent economic zone to be built on the border with Jordan and Egypt.

The 2025 project will operate using alternative energy and serve as a worldwide technology innovation hub, he said.

The conference, which runs until Thursday, is aimed at showing that Riyadh is opening itself up to the modern world and diversifying its revenue streams, following a global plunge in oil prices.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...te-islam-vision-2030-conference-a8017181.html
 
Interestingly, I read another newspaper report (The Times) where it's claimed that the Saudi tilt to radical Islam was sparked by the Iranian revolution and was intended to provide a response to their fundamentalist views which it was feared would give them too much influence in the region.
 
Let us hope the prince first ceases bombing impoverished Yemen, and ends the Saudi blockade of tiny Qatar. Otherwise, the only religion the ruling elites of Saudi Arabia will continue practising is: Hypocrisy.
 
Yeah not happening, dinosaurs will roam this earth (again) before the Saudis move away from their brand of religion!
 
MBS is already running the country. And the change is already evident...it's actually a good surprise because the younger Saudi generation is not as primitive as their fathers were.
 
MBS is already running the country. And the change is already evident...it's actually a good surprise because the younger Saudi generation is not as primitive as their fathers were.

I don't really see what they get from following or propagating their fundamentalist version of religion. It costs them a lot of money after all to fund it, what do they get back in return?
 
I don't really see what they get from following or propagating their fundamentalist version of religion. It costs them a lot of money after all to fund it, what do they get back in return?

Few things:

1) I think it's just how they've been. Before the oil boom they were literally nomads who lived in the desert. The discovery of oil and friendship with the Americans gave them a taste of the better life and they've slowly been changing. You have to understand up until 30 years ago most Saudis didn't even have a decent school education and there was little development in the country. Things are very different now.

2) The point made earlier to counter Iran does also have some truth to it because the Eastern side of Saudi that borders with Bahrain is heavily shia populated and so is Bahrain and Yemen. If they don't propagate their version of Islam then the Iranian version will prevail.

3) It keeps the Monarchy in place. The kings have used this fundamentalist version of Islam to keep control of the region and the 2 holy sites.
 
Few things:

1) I think it's just how they've been. Before the oil boom they were literally nomads who lived in the desert. The discovery of oil and friendship with the Americans gave them a taste of the better life and they've slowly been changing. You have to understand up until 30 years ago most Saudis didn't even have a decent school education and there was little development in the country. Things are very different now.

2) The point made earlier to counter Iran does also have some truth to it because the Eastern side of Saudi that borders with Bahrain is heavily shia populated and so is Bahrain and Yemen. If they don't propagate their version of Islam then the Iranian version will prevail.

3) It keeps the Monarchy in place. The kings have used this fundamentalist version of Islam to keep control of the region and the 2 holy sites.

Points 2 & 3: if they needed fundamentalist version of Islam to keep control, then what has changed?
 
Points 2 & 3: if they needed fundamentalist version of Islam to keep control, then what has changed?

Times have changed. Saudis are far better educated and well-traveled now than they were 20/30 years ago, add to that an exploding population and you have a dangerous dynamic. They also have realized that oil is running out and if they are to maintain their current lifestyles they need foreign investments and trade.

The sudden push of allowing women to drive and these recent announcements are coming in light of the World Economic conference being held there right now...apparently it's all being done to give the western corporations and investors assurance that Saudi is modernizing.
 
Times have changed. Saudis are far better educated and well-traveled now than they were 20/30 years ago, add to that an exploding population and you have a dangerous dynamic. They also have realized that oil is running out and if they are to maintain their current lifestyles they need foreign investments and trade.

The sudden push of allowing women to drive and these recent announcements are coming in light of the World Economic conference being held there right now...apparently it's all being done to give the western corporations and investors assurance that Saudi is modernizing.

Saudis are only 3.2 crores. Less than the population of Kerala :))

A quick search shows that Saudi women only have 2.7 births on an average. How can it be so less unless they are following family planning which is against Islam?

Something does not add up there.
 
Saudis are only 3.2 crores. Less than the population of Kerala :))

A quick search shows that Saudi women only have 2.7 births on an average. How can it be so less unless they are following family planning which is against Islam?

Something does not add up there.

Family planning is not against Islam, fyi. Anyways, Saudi Arabia is the gorilla in the Middle East...in every aspect: Population, economy, money, military..etc...the population is high if you look at the region (x4 if you compare it to UAE, x7 if you compare it to Lebanon)..the only country that is ahead of Saudi in most of the metrics is Egypt..which is not your usual Arab country.
 
Saudis are only 3.2 crores. Less than the population of Kerala :))

A quick search shows that Saudi women only have 2.7 births on an average. How can it be so less unless they are following family planning which is against Islam?

Something does not add up there.

10 million or so are foreign workers their native population is 21 million or so.
 
Family planning is not against Islam, fyi. Anyways, Saudi Arabia is the gorilla in the Middle East...in every aspect: Population, economy, money, military..etc...the population is high if you look at the region (x4 if you compare it to UAE, x7 if you compare it to Lebanon)..the only country that is ahead of Saudi in most of the metrics is Egypt..which is not your usual Arab country.


Zakir Naik openly asks Muslims to stop family planning as it is against the will of God.
 
Zakir Naik openly asks Muslims to stop family planning as it is against the will of God.

Yeah because Zakir Naik is the say all be all on Islam? Also, I hope to you contraception is not the same as family planning.
 
Yeah because Zakir Naik is the say all be all on Islam? Also, I hope to you contraception is not the same as family planning.

I meant tying the tubes for women and Nasbandi for men.

Temporarily delayingpregnancy by taking some pills is not what I am talking about.
 
Hopefully this trickles down to Pakistan cause the religous elite there are influenced by Saudi and millions of Pakistanis live there, picking up cultural influences.
 
Saudis are only 3.2 crores. Less than the population of Kerala :))

A quick search shows that Saudi women only have 2.7 births on an average. How can it be so less unless they are following family planning which is against Islam?

Something does not add up there.

And thank god for that. If every country produced like India/China/Pakistan we would struggle to find room for all of us.
 
Saudis are only 3.2 crores. Less than the population of Kerala :))

A quick search shows that Saudi women only have 2.7 births on an average. How can it be so less unless they are following family planning which is against Islam?

Something does not add up there.

since when?
 
I meant tying the tubes for women and Nasbandi for men.

Temporarily delayingpregnancy by taking some pills is not what I am talking about.

does it matter what procedure were used to have 2.7 births on average? Not everyone get tubes tied.

Delaying or trying not to get pregnant falls under family planning in every text book.
 
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