Saudi Arabia's Mohammed Bin Salman defends China's use of Concentration Camps for Muslims

[Hitman]

As he faces criticism from Western countries over the brutal murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Saudi Arabia’s young crown prince Mohammed bin Salman is forming new alliances.

On Friday, the leader colloquially known as MBS arrived in China, another country accused of authoritarianism, to meet with officials there. He was greeted by China’s Vice Premier Han Zheng and signed key agreements with Beijing related to energy production and the chemical industry. During his visit, he also appeared to defend China’s use of re-education camps for its country’s Muslim population.

"China has the right to carry out anti-terrorism and de-extremization work for its national security,” the crown prince was quoted as saying on Chinese television.

China has detained an estimated 1 million Uighur Muslims in concentration camps, where they are undergoing re-education programs allegedly intended to combat extremism. The Uighur are an ethnic Turkic group that practices Islam and lives in Western China and parts of Central Asia. Beijing has accused the Uighur in its Western Xinjiang region of supporting terrorism and implemented a surveillance regime. Millions of Muslims are also allegedly being forced to study communist doctrine in the camps.

“The Chinese government has long carried out repressive policies against the Turkic Muslim peoples in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) in northwest China. These efforts have been dramatically scaled up since late 2016, when Communist Party Secretary Chen Quanguo relocated from the Tibet Autonomous Region to assume leadership of Xinjiang,” read a report from the organization Human Rights Watch.

“There have been reports of deaths in the political education camps, raising concerns about physical and psychological abuse, as well as stress from poor conditions, overcrowding, and indefinite confinement,” the report continued. “While basic medical care is available, people are held even when they have serious illnesses or are elderly; there are also children in their teens, pregnant and breastfeeding women, and people with disabilities. Former detainees reported suicide attempts and harsh punishments for disobedience in the facilities.”

China claimed the camps were vocational training schools.

Uighur groups called on Mohammed bin Salman to use his official visit to pressure China on the issue of the concentration camps, as Saudi Arabia has traditionally been a defender of the rights of Muslims worldwide.

But under the leadership of the young crown prince, the country’s leadership has become more pragmatic in its pursuit of foreign policy interests. For example, Saudi Arabia has reportedly started developing closer ties with Israel despite persistent complaints from human rights groups about the country’s treatment of Palestinians. The tentative alliance is meant to sideline Iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia’s mutual enemy.

Mohammed bin Salman will also meet China’s President Xi Jingping during his visit to the country. China and Saudi Arabia have close economic ties, having done an estimated $63 billion worth of trade in 2018.

The killing of Washington Post columnist Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Turkey in October 2018 isolated Saudi Arabia internationally. The U.S. intelligence community determined that Mohammad bin Salman was responsible for orchestrating the murder.

Link: https://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arab...nds-china-concentration-camps-muslims-1340592

 

[Bewal Express]

The Chinese treatment of Uighurs is disgusting and the failure of the Muslims( and i include IK in this) to defend them is even more disgusting. It shows the weakness of the corrupt Ummah that we cant even bring ourselves to even condemn this. The Chinese need to remember that nothing lasts forever, and they will get their comeuppance for their disgusting behaviour.

 

[Adijazz1706]

AFAIK, US spoke for Chinese Christians and Turkey spoke for the Muslims, the rest of the world has been watching silently. Imran Khan has been a major disappointment in this regard

 

[ask_analyse_act]

The Chinese treatment of Uighurs is disgusting and the failure of the Muslims( and i include IK in this) to defend them is even more disgusting. It shows the weakness of the corrupt Ummah that we cant even bring ourselves to even condemn this. The Chinese need to remember that nothing lasts forever, and they will get their comeuppance for their disgusting behaviour.

The choice of leaders was made by the people. Expect the leaders to question and condemn before choosing them and choose wisely.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

When an inept leader is selected for 5 year term he loots and keep looting so that he can drag his country 50 years behind the race of modern world. Another 5 year term another 50 years and keeps going. And once the people had a chance to elect a leader with leadership qualities they expect him drag century old nation back into the race within his 5 years term which is to be honest practically impossible. See how far the nation was dragged forward from being in 1947 after his 5 year term and then judge in how many years will be back in the racing track. Then one can expect and question I think. Now IK has more worries within his nation on his plate.

 

[Bewal Express]

When an inept leader is selected for 5 year term he loots and keep looting so that he can drag his country 50 years behind the race of modern world. Another 5 year term another 50 years and keeps going. And once the people had a chance to elect a leader with leadership qualities they expect him drag century old nation back into the race within his 5 years term which is to be honest practically impossible. See how far the nation was dragged forward from being in 1947 after his 5 year term and then judge in how many years will be back in the racing track. Then one can expect and question I think. Now IK has more worries within his nation on his plate.

I know my friend but i am disgusted by all the Muslim countries( bar Turkey) for their failure to even raise a voice.

 

[rhony]

Islamic countries have bigger worries. Once proud nations Syria, Iraq are in ruins. Yemen is in the worst shape ever. Egypt, Turkey are in constitutional crisis. Saudis and Iranians are in a perpetual cold war that won't end soon. There is no time for people to care about Palestinians, Uighurs, Kashmiris.

 

[Major]

so pakistan would not have ties with Israel but are willing to work on CPEC..

we are the biggest hypocrites

 

[Tubs]

I definitely have my issues with Islam (well, all Abrahamic religions but Islam is practiced most fundamentally in general), but the concentration camp is disgusting.

It obviously isn't counter-terrorism, it's a blatant discriminatory attack on Muslims.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistan is basically relying on Chinese support so IK is not really in a position to criticise China. It would be similar to an immigrant landing in Britain then complaining about the poor housing. First Pakistan needs to be on an equal footing with China, then they can start making demands.

Saudi Arabia on the other hand is one of the richest countries in the world, so the back stabbing by MBS is all the more deplorable. But he has the support of the world's major powers so he can say or do what he wants basically. No one can hold him to account.

 

[MosheD]

First Pakistan needs to be on an equal footing with China, then they can start making demands.
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No country that has "partnered" with China has ever gotten to be on an equal footing, just ask the Africans and Sri Lanka. Malaysia woke up before it was too late thanks to Mahathir

 

[Tubs]

My thoughts exactly, thank you for not being as emotional as the others.

 

[Varun]

Pakistan won't gain anything by speaking up for these Uyghurs. If anything, it might provoke the Chinese into turning off the spigots on their funding.

Easier to conveniently look the other way while they're run over by the Chinese bus while Pakistan prospers because of CPEC. Similar reason why they recently sold JF-17s to Myanmar anyway: Money > Rohingyas.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Pakistan is basically relying on Chinese support so IK is not really in a position to criticise China. It would be similar to an immigrant landing in Britain then complaining about the poor housing. First Pakistan needs to be on an equal footing with China, then they can start making demands.

Saudi Arabia on the other hand is one of the richest countries in the world, so the back stabbing by MBS is all the more deplorable. But he has the support of the world's major powers so he can say or do what he wants basically. No one can hold him to account.

Best post in this thread.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

^By the same token, Pakistanis should stop talking about Kashmiris and Indian Muslims but they dont.

There lies the hypocrisy.

 

[Haroon786]

No country that has "partnered" with China has ever gotten to be on an equal footing, just ask the Africans and Sri Lanka. Malaysia woke up before it was too late thanks to Mahathir

What do you mean by this?