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A futuristic Saudi megacity is to feature two skyscrapers extending across a swathe of desert and mountain terrain, according to the latest disclosures on the project by the kingdom's de facto ruler.

The parallel structures of mirror-encased skyscrapers extending over 170 kilometres (more than 100 miles), known collectively as The Line, form the heart of the Red Sea megacity NEOM, a plank of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's bid to diversify the Gulf state's oil-dependent economy.

First announced in 2017, NEOM has consistently raised eyebrows for proposed flourishes like flying taxis and robot maids, even as architects and economists have questioned its feasibility.

In a presentation Monday night, Prince Mohammed sketched out an even more ambitious vision, describing a car-free utopia that would become the planet's most liveable city "by far".

Analysts noted, though, that plans for NEOM have changed course over the years, fuelling doubts about whether The Line will ever become reality.

NEOM, a biotech and digital hub spread over 26,500 square kilometres (10,000 square miles), was once touted as a regional "Silicon Valley".

Now it's a vehicle for reimagining urban life on a footprint of just 34 square kilometres, and addressing what Prince Mohammed describes as "liveability and environmental crises".

"The concept has morphed so much from its early conception that it's sometimes hard to determine its direction: scaling down, scaling up, or making an aggressive turn sideways," said Robert Mogielnicki of the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington.

Population boom

Officials had earlier said NEOM's population would top one million, but Prince Mohammed said the number would actually hit 1.2 million by 2030 before climbing to nine million by 2045.

The Line, in the heart of the Red Sea megacity. AFP

The Line, in the heart of the Red Sea megacity. AFP

The eye-popping total is part of a hoped-for nationwide population boom that Prince Mohammed said would be necessary to make Saudi Arabia, the world's biggest crude exporter, an economic powerhouse.

The goal for 2030 is to have 50 million people -- half Saudis and half foreigners -- living in the kingdom, up from roughly 34 million today.

By 2040 the target is 100 million people, he said.

"That's the main purpose of building NEOM, to raise the capacity of Saudi Arabia, get more citizens and more people in Saudi Arabia. And since we are doing it from nothing, why should we copy normal cities?"

The site will be powered by 100 percent renewable energy and feature "a year-round temperate micro-climate with natural ventilation", a promotional video released Monday said.

Past environmental pledges by the kingdom, such as a vow to achieve net zero carbon emissions by 2060, have sparked scepticism from environmentalists.

NEOM is well-positioned to harness solar and wind energy, and plans are also afoot for the city to host the world's largest green hydrogen plant, said Torbjorn Soltvedt of risk intelligence company Verisk Maplecroft.

"But the feasibility of NEOM as a whole is still unclear given the unprecedented scale and cost of the project," he said.

Finding funds

At just 200 metres (yards) wide, The Line is intended to be Saudi Arabia's answer to unchecked and wasteful urban sprawl, layering homes, schools and parks on top of each other in what planners term "Zero Gravity Urbanism".

Residents will have "all daily needs" reachable within a five-minute walk, while also having access to other perks like outdoor skiing facilities and "a high-speed rail with an end-to-end transit of 20 minutes", according to a statement.

Though NEOM will operate under its own founding law, which is still being prepared, Saudi officials say they have no plans to waive the kingdom's alcohol ban.

An airport is already operational at NEOM, and authorities announced in May it would begin receiving regular flights from Dubai, but it is unclear whether major construction of the megacity itself has commenced.

The "first phase" of the project, lasting until 2030, will cost 1.2 trillion Saudi riyals (roughly $319 billion), Prince Mohammed said.

Besides government subsidies, potential sources of funding include the private sector and an initial public offering for NEOM expected in 2024, he said.

Securing the necessary financing remains a potential challenge, though the current climate is more favourable than during the coronavirus pandemic that lowered oil prices.

"But funding is only part of the equation... demand is harder to buy, especially when you're asking people to be part of an experiment on living and working in the future," Mogielnicki said.

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These sorts of structures are frightening.

I would get dizzy just looking up at them.
 
Utter absurdity

It does seem absurd, mainly because of the high cost while being a totally new concept which hasnt been tested.

I think one of the reasons is to secure the rich Arab nationals living space in case of a global crisis/tragedy, as this location will be self sufficient.

Seems like Sci-Fi which wont be completed any time soon.

 
Impressive.

Would love to visit it.

It seems there was a secret meeting in NEOM.

Although it has been denied by the Saudi government, on November 22 there was a brief meeting in the Saudi high-tech city of NEOM between Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MbS), Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and other figures from the three countries. While it did not even last two hours, Iran was the main topic of discussion.

https://insidearabia.com/the-saudi-israeli-get-together-in-neom/

There are some theories this city is being built for Dajjal. You may not want to visit when its ready.
 
Wow! Didn't know this.

If this is true, I have no interest in visiting.

There will be more robots than humans. Everything will be made, packed & delivered by robots using AI technology. Facial recognition will be everywhere, every movement will be seen & noted. Its like a modern day super prison where freedom is great as long as you do what you are told. It does sound like a city for some crazed lunatic to rule.
 
I'm no fan of the Saudis but this is just another conspiracy theory used against Jews.

There is nothing to suggest that this city is built for Dajjal.

Lol did you reply this with a straight face?
 
I'm no fan of the Saudis but this is just another conspiracy theory used against Jews.

There is nothing to suggest that this city is built for Dajjal.

You need to do a bit more research.

Saudi government seems compromised. They seem to be working with Israel behind the scene. These are open secrets.

Also, I believe there is a potential connection between modern day Israel and Dajjal/Antichrist.
 
There will be more robots than humans. Everything will be made, packed & delivered by robots using AI technology. Facial recognition will be everywhere, every movement will be seen & noted. Its like a modern day super prison where freedom is great as long as you do what you are told. It does sound like a city for some crazed lunatic to rule.

Hmm. Not surprising.

A lot of the prophecies are getting fulfilled in front of our own eyes.
 
Have a lot of friends working in Neom and it seems like a great place to be. No idea if it will succeed!
 
You need to do a bit more research.

Saudi government seems compromised. They seem to be working with Israel behind the scene. These are open secrets.

Also, I believe there is a potential connection between modern day Israel and Dajjal/Antichrist.

I'm well aware of the Hadith but this city hasn't been built yet and we're coming up with Dajjal theories without anything credible.
 
Lot of conspiracy theories surround this project ala it will connect Israel and Saudi, which will be end of the world. It is ** offcourse, but lot of funny videos on youtube by Muslim Brotherhood apologists.
 
I'm wondering, if it's horizontal design rather than vertical, can they still be described as skyscrapers? Sandsurfers would seem a better description.
 
Its real life blade runner, but i see it as maze runner where the select few will live there along with brainwashed prisinors and the rest will live in the slums around it.
 
I'm no fan of the Saudis but this is just another conspiracy theory used against Jews.

There is nothing to suggest that this city is built for Dajjal.

Its just a theory I read. But if you have more knowledge of what should suggest Dajjals city/home, please do share.
 
I wonder why they are so fascinated about Iran.

Is it because Dajjal will arrive from Isfahan, Iran with 70,000 followers from a certain group? Is this what it's about?

I think its more geo-political excuse. It was supposed to be secret meeting but was leaked. To justify this meeting they claimed it was to discuss Iran. If this was true, there wouldn't be a need to visit this land for such a meeting.

Clearly the Israelis, Yanks and Saudis are all investing in this city for some reason.
 
You need to do a bit more research.

Saudi government seems compromised. They seem to be working with Israel behind the scene. These are open secrets.

Also, I believe there is a potential connection between modern day Israel and Dajjal/Antichrist.

Believing in Dallal and Antichrist is your choice. But calling a country like Israel Dajjal is not correct. What has Israel every done to you or your country to call them terrible names?
 
Its just a theory I read. But if you have more knowledge of what should suggest Dajjals city/home, please do share.

Is it a given that Dajjal will arrive? How do we know who it is? Any pictures or description of him or her?
 
Believing in Dallal and Antichrist is your choice. But calling a country like Israel Dajjal is not correct. What has Israel every done to you or your country to call them terrible names?

Are you from Earth? lol

Israel is a terrorist state, occupying power and apartheid state. Israeli Zionists have made it very clear they want to build their temple where the Al-Aqsa sits. Netanyahu has also promised to create the conditions for the Messiah to return. But sure they are good guys we shouldnt call terrible names.

I assume you are of Indian background ?
 
Are you from Earth? lol

Israel is a terrorist state, occupying power and apartheid state. Israeli Zionists have made it very clear they want to build their temple where the Al-Aqsa sits. Netanyahu has also promised to create the conditions for the Messiah to return. But sure they are good guys we shouldnt call terrible names.

I assume you are of Indian background ?

I am not taking sides here. Everyone has a story to build up their narrative.
 
Thread being destroyed by irrelevant stuff

Stick to topic please
 
Muhammad Bin Salman is the best thing to happen to Saudi Arabia. He is a man with a vision and knows what is good for his country.
 
I looked this project up. It's really impressive. A narrow city of nine million people over 150 kilometres in length.
 
Wow a thread on a prospective Arab city has turned into a Dajjal discussion.
 
Feels like this thread went to unexpected places.
 
Neom will compete with Miami, says Saudi Prince

SAUDI Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman (MBS) has said that the country’s flagship project Neom will compete with US coastal city Miami in terms of entertainment, culture, sports and retail.

Appearing in a documentary shown by Discovery Channel on Monday, Crown Prince unveiled the salient features of The LINE project within Neom, the first smart city of its kind in the world with no roads, cars or emissions.

Speaking about Neom, Crown Prince said, it is to create the new civilisation of tomorrow and encourage other nations to keep doing similar things for the benefit of the planet.

“Saudi Arabia is creating a new way of building cities and a new way of living. The people of Saudi Arabia are very much hopeful of this project as it would meet their growing demand in future,” he said.

THE LINE is considered as the biggest infrastructure project in history, promising a revolution in urban living. Speaking about country’s growing population he said that it will double from 33 million to about 50-55 million by 2030.

“By that time, the population will reach a level of consuming full capacity of the existing infrastructure of the Kingdom. This raises an important question that we need to create a new city,” he said.

Regarding conceptualisation of THE LINE, he said that they exchanged ideas, worked with many teams, and launched a competition for the best designers of the world.

“All of them provided us with city models that are in line with the available models, but with better solutions, except for one designer who adopted the idea and said to turn the circle into a straight line”, MBS said.

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https://www.dawn.com/news/1762114/neom-will-compete-with-miami-says-saudi-prince
 
Saudi Arabia has scaled back its medium-term ambitions for the desert development of Neom, the biggest project within Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s plans for diversifying the oil-dependent economy, according to people familiar with the matter.

By 2030, the government at one point hoped to have 1.5 million residents living in The Line, a sprawling, futuristic city it plans to contain within a pair of mirror-clad skyscrapers. Now, officials expect the development will house fewer than 300,000 residents by that time, according to a person familiar with the matter.

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Officials have long said The Line would be built in stages and they expect it to ultimately cover a 170-kilometer stretch of desert along the coast. With the latest pullback, though, officials expect to have just 2.4 kilometers of the project completed by 2030, the person familiar with the matter said, who asked not to be named discussing non-public information.

Source: Bloomberg
 
Saudi Arabia breaks silence about Neom's 'The Line' being 'scaled back'

A Saudi minister has broken silence over recent claims suggesting that Riyadh's Neom mega project's 'The Line' has been scaled back from an initial distance of 170 kilometres to only 2.4 km.

In a recent World Economic Forum interview in Riyadh, published by CNBC earlier this week, Faisal Al Ibrahim, Saudi Arabia minister of economy and planning gave an update on the country's much-awaited mega project, New Civil Engineer reported.

Al Ibrahim said: "All projects are moving full steam ahead. We set out to do something unprecedented and we're doing something unprecedented, and we will deliver something that's unprecedented."

He emphasised that the country will "continue delivering these projects in a manner that meets these priorities, delivers these projects and has the optimal healthy impact for our economy and the non-oil, the healthy non-oil growth within it."

He confirmed that the "intended scale" of Neom was "continuing as planned", without giving an update on timeframe.

"There is no change in scale," he said. "It is a long-term project that's modular in design."

Earlier this month, Bloomberg and other outlets reported that 'The Line' was being cut from 170km long to 2.4km, citing comments from a person familiar with Neom.

According to New Civil Engineer, Neom is Saudi Arabia's mega project and an attempt to become independent from oil and gas exports.

It includes a range of projects in the Tabuk region, such as Trojena artificial lake, The Oxagon mega port, 'The Line' and resort destinations, which in total has cost estimates ranging from $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion.

Earlier this week, it was reported that the Saudi government is seeking additional external investment in Neom, which has so far received $925 billion funding under management by the Public Investment Fund (PIF), its national sovereign wealth fund, according to its website.


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Neom boss who bragged he ran employees 'like slaves' leaves Saudi megaproject​


The chief executive of Saudi Arabia’s futuristic city, Neom, has left his role, along with several other executives who mocked Islam and fought with at least one employee, according to a report on Tuesday by the Wall Street Journal.

Nadhmi al-Nasr, who has managed Neom’s construction since 2018, departed from his post in recent days, leaving while the project is plagued with uncertainty.

The kingdom has had to scale back Neom, originally billed as a $1.5 trillion megacity project, which organisers claim will eventually be 33 times the size of New York City and include a 170km straight-line city known as "The Line".

Instead of 1.5 million people living in the city by 2030, Saudi officials now anticipate fewer than 300,000 residents. Meanwhile, only 2.4km of the city will be completed by 2030.

Nasr earned a chilling reputation managing Neom. He bragged that he drove everyone “like a slave”, adding, “When they drop down dead, I celebrate. That’s how I do my projects.”

In one incident, after two video game companies cancelled their sponsorship deals with Neom, Nasr threatened his communications team, saying that he would “take a gun from under my desk and shoot you” unless he was told who was responsible for the deals falling through.

Neom is the cornerstone of Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s efforts to wean the kingdom’s economy from relying on oil revenue.

Until that day, the kingdom needs petrodollars to complete projects like Neom. The International Monetary Fund estimates that Saudi Arabia needs oil prices at $96 per barrel to balance its budget, roughly $24 less than it stands now.

Saudi Arabia has also failed to lure foreign investors. Western bankers and private equity chiefs have flocked to the kingdom for dealmaking but have been reluctant to bet on its most grandiose projects.

Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF), which controls Neom's funding, is now stepping in to take direct control, according to the WSJ.

Iman al-Mudaifer, a PIF real estate executive, is now acting CEO, according to the Saudi Gazette.

According to the WSJ report, two other controversial foreign executives have also left Neom.

Wayne Borg, who headed Neom’s media division, and Antoni Vives, a senior executive who managed The Line project, have left.

Borg was known for his tirades, in which he reportedly disparaged Islam, made lewd references about sexual positions and said women from the Arabian Gulf looked like “transvestites”.

He also called South Asian migrant workers at Neom "fucking morons" and said that “white people are at the top of the pecking order".

Vives was a Nasr ally whose role in The Line project raised questions after a Spanish court convicted him in 2021 of corruption in his previous job at Barcelona’s city hall. At the time, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman intervened to bring Vives back, according to the WSJ.

Vives also reportedly got into a physical altercation with a construction project manager over a deadline issue.

 
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