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Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs Gennady 'Triple G' Golovkin Super Fight - Prediction and Discussion Thread

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Canelo Alvarez

Age: 27

Stance: Orthodox

49-1-1

Defending The Ring Middleweight Championship

Height: 1.75 m
Reach: 70.5 inches

Best win: Miguel Cotto on points

Gennady Golovkin

Age: 35

Stance: Orthodox

37-0-0

Defending The WBC, WBA, IBO and IBF Middleweight Championship's

Height: 1.79 m
Reach: 70 inches

Best win: Daniel Jacobs on points

Total Belts at stake

WBA (Super), WBC, IBO, IBF, The Ring and vacant lineal middleweight titles.
 
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Canelo Positives: He is excellent at measuring distance, for his size he has great speed and is very efficient when it comes to timing with those counters. He also has an excellent chin and is a strong fighter on the inside.

Canelo Negatives: He is very flat footed and can be slow/ponderous with regards to his linear movement, also can have issues fighting at mid to long range.

Triple G Positives: Lighter on his feet and has decent footwork, an excellent jab and he can cut the ring off very well; and as we know he packs more of a punch in the power department.

Triple G Negatives: Struggles against lateral movement and is not as strong fighting on the inside as he is at mid-range. There are also ? with regards to potential decline with regards to his speed, power and movement given his age.
 
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Canelo will not outbox GGG. It will be a slugfest and Canelo will feel GGG's power but will be able to cope with it. I don't know if he'll last the twelve.
 
Canelo may well have played his cards beautifully and got in with GGG at just about the right time. I'm gonna go for a win by a couple of rounds for Canelo, 116-112.
 
Asim_khan said:
Canelo may well have played his cards beautifully and got in with GGG at just about the right time. I'm gonna go for a win by a couple of rounds for Canelo, 116-112.
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I don't think GGG is to be taken lightly though, he may have looked awful during the fight with Jacobs but great fighters find a way to improve on such performances; see Floyd vs Castillo. It's a fight to determine the undisputed Middleweight and both will be at their best.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Canelo will not outbox GGG. It will be a slugfest and Canelo will feel GGG's power but will be able to cope with it. I don't know if he'll last the twelve.
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It will be a war and if it goes the distance Canelo will win on points in a close fight. If it doesn't, GGG will win by KO.
 
shaz619 said:
It will be a war and if it goes the distance Canelo will win on points in a close fight. If it doesn't, GGG will win by KO.
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Canelo will only win on points if he's bought out the judges. He's not fast enough to out-point GGG.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Canelo will only win on points if he's bought out the judges. He's not fast enough to out-point GGG.
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He doesn't need to be fast, he's a counter puncher who relies on his in-ring IQ, timing and accuracy. What makes this interesting is that GGG moves well but not laterally, so it's going to be close.
 
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shaz619 said:
He doesn't need to be fast, he's a counter puncher who relies on his in-ring IQ, timing and accuracy.
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He ain't countering GGG who also excels in this art. Canelo's counters are mostly heavy shots which leaves his face wide open. GGG will be hunting for that opening.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
He ain't countering GGG who also excels in this art. Canelo's counters are mostly heavy shots which leaves his face wide open. GGG will be hunting for that opening.
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GGG is not a counter puncher, he's a pressure fighter who's technically sound. On the inside his defence is weak and Canelo can exploit that, his best shot is to overwhelm Canelo with his power and size
 
shaz619 said:
GGG is not a counter puncher, he's a pressure fighter who's technically sound. On the inside his defence is weak and Canelo can exploit that, his best shot is to overwhelm Canelo with his power and size
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GGG is a very good counter puncher. I didn't say that's all he does.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
GGG is a very good counter puncher. I didn't say that's all he does.
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GGG is not a counter puncher, that's not his style; his IQ is not that high and we saw that more recently in his fight against Jacobs, he's fundamentally a technically sound brawler
 
Tough one to call, GGG's got the power, but Canelo is no patsy either. I actually thought GGG lost the fight against Jacobs, he was very lucky to get that decision. I just think Canelo is an all round complete boxer, whereas GGG is primarily a slugger. He attacks relentlessly, but leaves himself open to the counters for a smart fighter. It just depends whether Canelo has got the chin to withstand the onslaught, if he has then I can see him winning on points.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
This is gonna go the same way as Brook v Spence. Your hype means nothing.
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Brook v Spence is a pretty idiotic comparison to a fight between two of the best at 160 lb, it's not about hype or anything this fight needs no hype it sells itself but how on earth is the counter puncher in GGG being countered:


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It's not a knock on Triple G given how fighters have distinct strengths and weaknesses but at least get his style right
 
shaz619 said:
Brook v Spence is a pretty idiotic comparison to a fight between two of the best at 160 lb, it's not about hype or anything this fight needs no hype it sells itself but how on earth is the counter puncher in GGG being countered:


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It's not a knock on Triple G given how fighters have distinct strengths and weaknesses but at least get his style right
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I'm talking about you hyping Brook lol.

Lol at using Jacobs as an example. Canelo don't have that speed. He's slow, real slow. Doesn't have the length either.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Tough one to call, GGG's got the power, but Canelo is no patsy either. I actually thought GGG lost the fight against Jacobs, he was very lucky to get that decision. I just think Canelo is an all round complete boxer, whereas GGG is primarily a slugger. He attacks relentlessly, but leaves himself open to the counters for a smart fighter. It just depends whether Canelo has got the chin to withstand the onslaught, if he has then I can see him winning on points.
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I totally agree, I scored that fight in favour of Jacobs as well. GGG was chasing the fight the entire night like a headless chicken and looked out of his depth against an agile opponent.

Canelo is quiet static on his feat though and moves in linear fashion so GGG shouldn't have issues with his movement but like you say he often leaves himself open when applying pressure and especially on the inside and unless Canelo is overwhelmed by his power and size Canelo can win on points in a close fight. But GGG is more then just a slugger his fundamentals are sound, he has one hell of a jab and is light on his feet; that will be key for him, if he looks to get up close and engage it will be risky but that's what he'll look to do if he searches for that KO and it could pay off but I'd be patient.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
I'm talking about you hyping Brook lol.

Lol at using Jacobs as an example. Canelo don't have that speed. He's slow, real slow. Doesn't have the length either.
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I didn't hype Brook, am one of his biggest critics everyone knows that and always said Spence would be his first legit test after he held his world title hostage in sheffield and fought bum after bum before desperately trying to avoid facing his mandatory in Spence.

I didn't say Canelo is a Jacobs, but pointing out the fact that you called GGG a counter puncher when there is video evidence that it's not the case it's not his style base. Well in terms of physical attributes Canelo has half an inch on GGG when it comes to reach and his style does not revolve around using his length with speed and movement like Jacobs, he measures distance and looks to cut his opponent off and then counter them on the inside.
 
shaz619 said:
I don't think GGG is to be taken lightly though, he may have looked awful during the fight with Jacobs but great fighters find a way to improve on such performances; see Floyd vs Castillo. It's a fight to determine the undisputed Middleweight and both will be at their best.
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Personally don't think GGG has been at his best for a while, Floyd in the Castilo match was still very young, in his Pretty Boy stage, whereas GGG has already had a legendary amateur career and 30 odd pro fights, I just think he's on his way down and father time is catching up. I hope he has one last hurrah, would be hilarious seeing him ko Canelo, with him having purposefully ducked him for a number of years.
 
Asim_khan said:
Personally don't think GGG has been at his best for a while, Floyd in the Castilo match was still very young, in his Pretty Boy stage, whereas GGG has already had a legendary amateur career and 30 odd pro fights, I just think he's on his way down and father time is catching up. I hope he has one last hurrah, would be hilarious seeing him ko Canelo, with him having purposefully ducked him for a number of years.
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That's a good point, I had highlighted his age and potential decline as a negative. But GGG despite being 35 has not been in many wars, so he doesn't have as much wear and tear; mostly thanks to a weak MW division outside the likes of Canelo, Jacobs and BJS. But you could be right no doubt, we"ll have to see on fight night
 
We're so lucky in the UK, in the US this fight will cost £55 while we only have to pay £12. Folk in the US also paid an astonishing £77 for Floyd/Conor. Cost certainly needs to be adjusted in orde to maintain a healthy buy-rate moving forward. The UFC on the other hand charge between £39-46 (SD-HD) for their high profile events and that was the cost for Jones v DC 2; that is a lot more reasonable which is also a reason why they tend to attract more fans.
 
kingusama92 said:
Gonna be one hell of a fight.

GGG is my guy.
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GGG's is everyone's favourite, the casuals love the spectacle of a knockout but when GGG finally met a decent opponent in Jacobs he struggled. He has a lot to prove against Canelo who has been involved in some really close fights which could have gone either way but you expect that when you get in the ring with high calibre opposition. Anyhow it's not GGG's fault the MW division has been weak, but he should have shown more enthusiasm in facing BJS though but stylistically he's not someone he'd have an easy night with in the ring.
 
I'm with GGG like the majority here, Canelo can throw a hell of a bunch but DAMN can GGG take a punch!!!
 
One of my friends thinks Canelo will win this cause he has good speed as compared to GGG who has slowed down considerably in the past year. The way I see it is that the only way GGG can win this if he wears down canelo and then knocks him out as he packs more power in his punches which is why i am backing him.

But if the fight goes the distance, canelo will have an edge here because of his brilliant pace. He doesnt have the power of GGG but man his punching volume is impressive. He will outbox GGG the deeper the fight gets. I got my fingers crossed till fight night to see how these two cope with each other
 
Gonna go with GGG though. But like I said - one hell of a fight it's gonna be.
 
GGG's best chance is to use his jab at mid range and then overwhelm Canelo with his size/power, but he is not a counter puncher; not sure if you have ever watched JMM box :facepalm:
 
shaz619 said:
GGG's best chance is to use his jab at mid range and then overwhelm Canelo with his size/power, but he is not a counter puncher; not sure if you have ever watched JMM box :facepalm:
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You've misunderstood thinking that I'm implying that GGG relies mainly on counter-punching to win matches. All I said was I've seen him counter for small period in fights and from what I have seen his timing was very good when doing so. If you disagree, it's fine lol. Not sure why you are getting upset.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
You've misunderstood thinking that I'm implying that GGG relies mainly on counter-punching to win matches. All I said was I've seen him counter for small period in fights and from what I have seen his timing was very good when doing so. If you disagree, it's fine lol. Not sure why you are getting upset.
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I think you're upset after your pov was rubbished and are backtracking after claming GGG is stylistically a counter puncher :)) It's okay to get it wrong kid, glad that you've changed your view
 
shaz619 said:
I think you're upset after your pov was rubbished and are backtracking after claming GGG is stylistically a counter puncher :)) It's okay to get it wrong kid, glad that you've changed your view
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Quote me where I said GGG was solely a counter-puncher. No, I have not changed my view, he's very good at countering so you can continue crying.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
He ain't countering GGG who also excels in this art.
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:yk2 ' also excels in this art' implying GGG style base is that of a counter puncher on equal footing to Canelo, a fighter who is a counter puncher by nature :yk

Also from wise Chief 'Floyd = cherry picker'

#Casuals
 
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I have a feeling Canelo will get hurt early on but will rally and stop GGG in the 8th/9th round.

My heart says Canelo but my head says GGG. Let's see how this goes
 
Da_Future_Knick said:
I have a feeling Canelo will get hurt early on but will rally and stop GGG in the 8th/9th round.

My heart says Canelo but my head says GGG. Let's see how this goes
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Great fight isn't it, genuine pick em; 50/50
 
Golovkin on Canelo Defense: This is a Real Mexican Fight!

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-on-canelo-defense-this-real-mexican-fight--119989

"This is a fight boxing can be proud of. It is boxing's biggest fight. It is a fight for history. It is a real Mexican fight. Everyone will remember this fight. Canelo is No. 1 in Mexico, a country known for great fighters. He is very special," Golovkin said.

"This is our Mexican Independence Day holiday weekend gift to boxing and to boxing fans. The fans have been asking for this fight for years. We are going to give a great battle. I am very excited to be finally fighting in Las Vegas, but I am more excited that it is against Canelo. The energy will be off the charts. Let me repeat -- this is a fight boxing can be proud of."
 
Very difficult to call but I'd just go with Canelo because he's younger and will continue the fast pace in the championship rounds which should give him a points win.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Very difficult to call but I'd just go with Canelo because he's younger and will continue the fast pace in the championship rounds which should give him a points win.
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I think if GGG pulls it off it will be by KO but not over the distance, am leaning towards Canelo as well for the same reasons as you and also because of his better game on the inside because you'd think these two would go toe to toe in the centre especially in the second half of the fight. But GGG will come out using his jab like he did against David, if he sustains his work rate it will not be easy to neutralise it but Canelo is better at slipping punches then anyone GGG has faced. Am going with Canelo on points as well
 
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Hyped !
 
[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] prediction for GGG / Canelo ? And what did you make of Conor/Floyd if you watched the fight and the event itself
 
Gennady Golovkin says his fight with Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez is huge for both him and the division

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...alvarez-is-huge-for-both-him-and-the-division

'GGG' will take on the 27-year-old Mexican at the T-Mobile Arena as he marks his Las Vegas debut on September 16 with the IBF, WBC and WBO world titles at stake.

The hard-hitting Kazakh, unbeaten in 37 fights, says that the unification showdown will bring the division back to the dizzy heights of times gone by.

"I want to start and I want to win this fight because maybe for me this win will be like a history fight, like [Sugar Ray] Leonard against [Marvin] Hagler.

"The middleweight division will come back. 'Canelo' is a very special guy and for both us it's huge. Especially for me, this is huge.

"The story - in the middleweight division, it's a long story. I don't know, I remember a lot of great champions, like Carlos Monzon, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler and Bernard Hopkins.

"Right now I think new stories, new times for us. So many stories are huge in the middleweight division. To be a champion is huge."
 
http://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-joshua-im-riding-with-canelo-hope-he-beats-golovkin--120120

Anthony Joshua: I'm Riding With Canelo, Hope He Beats Golovkin!

IBF, IBO, WBA heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua is full behind Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (49-1-1, 34 KOs) to unseat middleweight king Gennady Golovkin (37-0, 33 KOs).

Canelo will challenge Golovkin, who holds the WBC, IBO, WBA, IBF middleweight belts, on September 16th at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. HBO Pay-Per-View will carry the bout.

The bout is the most anticipated boxing fight of the year, with nearly two years of hype for the match to take place.

While Golovkin is a slight favorite to win, the fight is now a lot closer in the eyes of many than it was a year ago. A year ago, the majority of pundits were siding with Golovkin to win, but now there are many who are siding with Canelo to pull it off.

Joshua is among the Canelo supporters and wants him to pull though with a victory over GGG, who last September traveled over to the UK and stopped Joshua's stablemate Kell Brook in five rounds. But before he pulled off that stoppage victory, Golovkin had taken his fair share of punches from Brook, who was moving up by 13-pounds from the welterweight division.

"I hope Canelo wins, not that I don't like Triple G. I have just been riding with Canelo for a long time," Joshua told Sports Mail.

"He's 27 and the man has achieved so much and he'll be one of the fathers. He's still a baby but he'll be one of the fathers in the sport, give him another 10 years. He'll be around for a long time and I think he'll do great things for the sport.

"So I have been riding with Canelo for a long time but it's going to be a tough fight because Triple G is from Kazakhstan, he has the good foundations of a boxer. But so has Canelo, so I'll put my money on him."
 
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I didn't notice it.

I actually am not acknowledged enough to discuss in Boxing threads. I do follow Boxing, but that's mostly by event based, like the Money match. I do watch classic boxing matches, when free, but won't adjust schedule to extract time for a boxing match.

Canelo is younger, probably stronger & faster, and he is a bit stocky; while Golovkin is undefeated, well experienced & probably a better over all fighter. He comes from old Soviet school of boxing - powerful methodical punching & very good balance. In a longer match, I'll take Golovkin.
 
MMHS said:
I didn't notice it.

I actually am not acknowledged enough to discuss in Boxing threads. I do follow Boxing, but that's mostly by event based, like the Money match. I do watch classic boxing matches, when free, but won't adjust schedule to extract time for a boxing match.

Canelo is younger, probably stronger & faster, and he is a bit stocky; while Golovkin is undefeated, well experienced & probably a better over all fighter. He comes from old Soviet school of boxing - powerful methodical punching & very good balance. In a longer match, I'll take Golovkin.
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If you get the chance try to watch this fight in particular live or the replay without reading the spoilers. Yeah Golovkin has solid fundamentals which stem from his fantastic amateur career which culminated in an Olympic Silver.
 
The promoters should have found a way to reschedule this fight, I feel sorry for them in terms of having just 2 weeks to promote after the spectacle between Floyd/Conor; then again it's a fight which sells itself but still you want to create some more buzz and hype; what should have been an automatic 2 million PPV buyrate at the very least will hover around the 1 million mark.
 
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I like Canelo. He has good power in both hands and being the younger man I think he will recover faster than a 35 year old GGG.
 
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[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] with his prediction for the fight:

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:))
 
The bookies have Triple G as their favourite, on sky they have him at 4/6 to win outright and Canelo at 11/6 ; not a lot between the odds and you expect that, it's a tough one to call.
 
The real fight of the year and not the gaudy fraudulent spectacle few weeks ago.

Canelo to win by round 6.... one thing is for sure it's going to be explosive.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
The real fight of the year and not the gaudy fraudulent spectacle few weeks ago.

Canelo to win by round 6.... one thing is for sure it's going to be explosive.
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Big prediction there mate, will you be putting a cheeky fiver on it :))
 
Surprised by the lack of hype on PP for this fight compared to Floyd/Conor, outside myself, KingKhan and a few others felt this fight would have captured the imagination of the casuals to and there are a fair amount of fight fans on PP
 
shaz619 said:
Big prediction there mate, will you be putting a cheeky fiver on it :))
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If I was a betting man I would have. It's such a great fight, could go either way but I am going with the younger man. 6 rounds because I think it will be explosive and one of them will will have to "bend the knee"... and give in to the bombardment that both will unleash on each other.

I feel sorry for these guys, their limelight got stolen by the other fight.
 
shaz619 said:
Surprised by the lack of hype on PP for this fight compared to Floyd/Conor, outside myself, KingKhan and a few others felt this fight would have captured the imagination of the casuals to and there are a fair amount of fight fans on PP
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Mayweather and McGregor are marketing geniuses.

GGG and Canelo rely on their marketing teams to do the work and that doesn't cut it with the average fan, unfortunately.

Can't blame them though since English isn't their first language.
 
shaz619 said:
Surprised by the lack of hype on PP for this fight compared to Floyd/Conor, outside myself, KingKhan and a few others felt this fight would have captured the imagination of the casuals to and there are a fair amount of fight fans on PP
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Mayweather/Conor fight was for the casual sports fan who are boxing illiterates. Real boxing fans will have been looking forward to this fight for a long time. I've heard it described by respected boxing journalists as a throwback to the golden years of boxing when there only used to be one champion at each weight. Even Manny/Mayweather bout wasn't of the same calibre as they didn't fight when they were at their peak, Mayweather waited until Pacquiao was over the hill to take that on.

GGG and Manelo are two great fighters going in at the top of their game, and I sort of agree this is almost like the old days when you had Hagler vs Leonard or Ali vs Frasier. I very rarely book these fights on PPV but I'm taking this one. Absolutely unmissable for true fight fans.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Mayweather/Conor fight was for the casual sports fan who are boxing illiterates. Real boxing fans will have been looking forward to this fight for a long time. I've heard it described by respected boxing journalists as a throwback to the golden years of boxing when there only used to be one champion at each weight. Even Manny/Mayweather bout wasn't of the same calibre as they didn't fight when they were at their peak, Mayweather waited until Pacquiao was over the hill to take that on.

GGG and Manelo are two great fighters going in at the top of their game, and I sort of agree this is almost like the old days when you had Hagler vs Leonard or Ali vs Frasier. I very rarely book these fights on PPV but I'm taking this one. Absolutely unmissable for true fight fans.
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I agree there but Manny/Floyd and more recently Joshua/Wladmir have enjoyed more interest from the casuals then Canelo/GGG.

To be honest, Floyd was also past his prime by 2007/08; however, he along with Manny were still competing at the elite level. In Manny's case, his KO ratio declined but that was also due to testing improving over the last 7 years or so; but that did not hinder him because he has a high in-ring IQ, his only real defeat has been vs JMM but up until the KO he was actually boxing beautifully. So while it would have been nice to see the two compete in 2009, they were still the best P4P fighters on the planet in 2015; the fight was a dud and Manny was not effective but he also reportedly was carrying a shoulder injury. I don't see the outcome to have been any different regardless of when they'd have fought though.

This is easily the biggest Middleweight fight since Hagler/Leonard without a doubt and I will also be purchasing the PPV.
 
kingusama92 said:
Mayweather and McGregor are marketing geniuses.

GGG and Canelo rely on their marketing teams to do the work and that doesn't cut it with the average fan, unfortunately.

Can't blame them though since English isn't their first language.
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There is no charisma quiet like knocking people out in the case of Triple G and Canelo has been Boxing's only box office draw for a while until Joshua came along. Hence, this fight is meant to sell itself and even generate interest from the casuals much like Floyd/Manny and Joshua/Wladmir. However, I think that scheduling may have resulted in the lack of interest potentially because the promoters have had a short time to work after Floyd/GGG and I suspect folk are still in hangover mode.
 
shaz619 said:
There is no charisma quiet like knocking people out in the case of Triple G and Canelo has been Boxing's only box office draw for a while until Joshua came along. Hence, this fight is meant to sell itself and even generate interest from the casuals much like Floyd/Manny and Joshua/Wladmir. However, I think that scheduling may have resulted in the lack of interest potentially because the promoters have had a short time to work after Floyd/GGG and I suspect folk are still in hangover mode.
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Agreed.

It's a real shame.

Even the media seems to be ignoring it barring the odd segment here and there. That's surprised me the most.
 
shaz619 said:
I agree there but Manny/Floyd and more recently Joshua/Wladmir have enjoyed more interest from the casuals then Canelo/GGG.

To be honest, Floyd was also past his prime by 2007/08; however, he along with Manny were still competing at the elite level. In Manny's case, his KO ratio declined but that was also due to testing improving over the last 7 years or so; but that did not hinder him because he has a high in-ring IQ, his only real defeat has been vs JMM but up until the KO he was actually boxing beautifully. So while it would have been nice to see the two compete in 2009, they were still the best P4P fighters on the planet in 2015; the fight was a dud and Manny was not effective but he also reportedly was carrying a shoulder injury. I don't see the outcome to have been any different regardless of when they'd have fought though.

This is easily the biggest Middleweight fight since Hagler/Leonard without a doubt and I will also be purchasing the PPV.
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Floyd being past his prime has never had the same impact on him because his strengths have always been defence and smarts. Not to take anything away from him, because he's a hell of a boxer, but Manny was a force of nature, and his high pressure style meant he would burn out far quicker. Maybe Floyd would have won just as easily if they fought earlier, but he avoided the fight during that time so he must have had some doubts. Anyway, my perception of a great fight will always be two fighters taking each other on in their prime because they want to beat the best. That's what made the superfights of old, and that's what will make the superfight tomorrow, whoever wins.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Floyd being past his prime has never had the same impact on him because his strengths have always been defence and smarts. Not to take anything away from him, because he's a hell of a boxer, but Manny was a force of nature, and his high pressure style meant he would burn out far quicker. Maybe Floyd would have won just as easily if they fought earlier, but he avoided the fight during that time so he must have had some doubts. Anyway, my perception of a great fight will always be two fighters taking each other on in their prime because they want to beat the best. That's what made the superfights of old, and that's what will make the superfight tomorrow, whoever wins.
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People don't look at the fact that Floyd was past his peak because he kept winning, he also had a high pressure style and it's evident by his KO ratio after his first 25 fights or so but he took a lot of punishment to, his hands became very brittle and his body was banged up; it's not his fault Manny could not make the neccessary stylistic adjustments like he did to remain effective without being prone to excess punishment.

Back then I had a lot of sympathy for Manny when it came to his refusal to be tested but evidently his KO ratio has declined ever since testing improved in the sport so Floyd may have been right; even during his peak once Floyd made some noise Manny could not stop the likes off Clottey and Magarito despite stopping the tough Cotto a year earlier. On top of that, a guy that tiny jumped up the weight classes in almost alien like fashion whilst his power grew, just look at how Gonzalez struggled last week having moved up once again.

Yeah I agree with that, ideally you want fighters to fight the best during their prime. Boxing is a business though, very few put there like Andre Ward who care about legacy
 
kingusama92 said:
Agreed.

It's a real shame.

Even the media seems to be ignoring it barring the odd segment here and there. That's surprised me the most.
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Lets hope the fight is an epic and all time classic, will really elevate the sport and make up for this lack of hype. Hearns and Hagler literally gave no damn after defeat, decades later people admire them for the fight itself, there were no losers on that night.
 
shaz619 said:
The promoters should have found a way to reschedule this fight, I feel sorry for them in terms of having just 2 weeks to promote after the spectacle between Floyd/Conor; then again it's a fight which sells itself but still you want to create some more buzz and hype; what should have been an automatic 2 million PPV buyrate at the very least will hover around the 1 million mark.
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Rescheduling the fight would have all but taken the interest off this fight. There will be a lot more people tuning into this fight because of MoneyMays fights against McGregor than the other way around.
 
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When it all set and done this will be quite a onesided affair with GGG dominating Canelo. Alvarez will show heart and make it interesting but he will get a serious beaten Saturday night.
 
The people and the media have done a good job of finding excuses for Canelo getting his backside whopped in several sparing sessions against GGG but the fact remains all boxer have a ceiling and vast majority will all have reached that ceiling before turning pro. The coach can make some technical adjustments but your fundementals will always remain the same. Canelo is in for a beating probably worse than what he encountered in sparing.
 
ShahKhan007 said:
When it all set and done this will be quite a onesided affair with GGG dominating Canelo. Alvarez will show heart and make it interesting but he will get a serious beaten Saturday night.
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Canelo is young and fitter. He will raise the pace to a high level, using combinations when attacking GGG.

It wil be close but Canelo has a future and is Goldenboy's golden boy so any close fight going to the cards will see Canelo take it. GGG has to knock him out or get the ref to stop the fight, he cant win on points imo.
 
ShahKhan007 said:
Rescheduling the fight would have all but taken the interest off this fight. There will be a lot more people tuning into this fight because of MoneyMays fights against McGregor than the other way around.
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You can't be serious. How on earth does Floyd / Conor hype a completely distinct fight ? In fact they've milked the casual fan base dry and left them hung over to the point where there is no where near as much hype for GGG / Canelo compared to last year, this is the same reason why Oscar was upset when the glorified exhibition was announced.
 
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