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Say what you want, but Babar Azam is still Pakistan’s most gifted batter

salman24 said:
Oh okay so Fakhar is an opener who can only open but it's okay to move Babar from his opening spot to 3 and then 4 and the expectation is he can adapt wherever. Nice double standard.
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Yeah it’s ok to move Babar from opening because he isn’t an opener in T20s to begin with 🤡

I’m not having this stupid debate with you.

I’m past this stage 3-4 years ago. Jaa kissi aur ka sarr Kha!
 
How can any demand Babar to open and cry injustice considering the Zalalat he endured in the BBL?

On top of it, the Babar himself moved away from opening in PSL last year after realising he is hindering the team.
 
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Rana said:
How can any besharam demand Babar to open and cry injustice considering the Zalalat he endured in the BBL?

On top of it, the besharam Babar himself moved away from opening in PSL last year after realising he is hindering the team.

How his dajjali khaslat fans can demand that he should open in the name of justice is beyond ridiculous! They deserve belt treatment. Ab wohi mille ghy!
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Have you ever admitted to being wrong in your life? Just wondering

You have clear double standards btw. Anyone reasonable person can see that.
 
salman24 said:
Have you ever admitted to being wrong in your life? Just wondering

You have clear double standards btw. Anyone reasonable person can see that.
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How can I have double standards when I have insisted from day 1 that Babar is no T20 opener???? This is since the time when Babar and Rizwan were exploiting Pakistan cricket for their vested interests! So how the hell can I have double standards if I am sticking to this??
 
Rana said:
How can I have double standards when I have insisted from day 1 that Babar is no T20 opener???? This is since the time when Babar and Rizwan were exploiting Pakistan cricket for their vested interests! So how the hell can I have double standards if I am sticking to this??
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You have a problem with Fakhar being moved from his position but not with Babar not only being moved from his original position to number 3 but then now to number 4 recently.
 
salman24 said:
You have a problem with Fakhar being moved from his position but not with Babar not only being moved from his original position to number 3 but then now to number 4 recently.
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What part of “Babar isn’t a T20 opener to begin with” is hard for you to understand??
 
Rana said:
What part of “Babar isn’t a T20 opener to begin with” is hard for you to understand??
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yes but then he also got moved from 3 to 4. Why are you crying about Fakhar but not Babar's constant movements?

It's because you are an unfair and biased individual.
 
salman24 said:
yes but then he also got moved from 3 to 4. Why are you crying about Fakhar but not Babar's constant movements?

It's because you are an unfair and biased individual.
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Oh I’m a very fair and straightforward person

Ghenta doesn’t play in T20s

Straight out of the team! Deal with it!
 
salman24 said:
yes but then he also got moved from 3 to 4. Why are you crying about Fakhar but not Babar's constant movements?

It's because you are an unfair and biased individual.
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I don't believe you support Babar. I believe you are here to troll us. That's fine, I won't hate you for it but try trolling the Babar fans for a change.
 
RizBar is Pak, Pak is RizBar!

Let’s go! Let’s do justice for Rauf and bring him back!
 
I do not understand what the purpose of Babar Azam in this T20 team is. Do they want him, perhaps, as a tuk tuk player to rescue the team if all the other batsmen get out playing aggressively? If so, these days he’s not even surviving long periods even at 100 strike rate. He is wasting a spot that could be taken by Nafay.

You cannot keep selecting players based on status. Sooner or later he will cost Pakistan a critical game, because he’ll play a 20 ball 7 run innings, or even a 40 ball 50 (which in his mind will be a huge success), and leave too much for the rest to do. He has to go. End of.
 
I have never seen such a steep decline.

Say what you want, this guy scored runs against big teams too but now it looks like he can’t even score one against Nepal.

Hopefully he gets back to his best. This too shall pass.
 
What astonishes me is how Pakistan managed to market this zero-aura dud as the King. Amazing PR work.
 
A gift that wouldn’t stop giving itself to its ungrateful getters.
 
Hikaru said:
What astonishes me is how Pakistan managed to market this zero-aura dud as the King. Amazing PR work.
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Amir sohail , Ramiz , urooj mumtaz in com box even praise him dearly for taking average catches . It all started from Ramiz raja who made Babar look like some second coming of Imran khan
 
Asif321 said:
Amir sohail , Ramiz , urooj mumtaz in com box even praise him dearly for taking average catches . It all started from Ramiz raja who made Babar look like some second coming of Imran khan
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You have to understand that for Pakistanis even taking average catches is an above average thing
 
He was a wonderful and pleasing batsman to watch when on song. But has lost the plot entirely in recent times.
 
Ponting, Shastri dissect Pakistan's dilemma with Babar Azam

ICC Hall of Famer Ricky Ponting and respected commentator Ravi Shastri have offered insight amid Babar Azam’s inconsistent recent form.

The Pakistan great made a scratchy 15 off 18 in his side’s first-up three-wicket win over the Netherlands, in what was the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2026 opener.

While Babar hit an unbeaten half-century against Australia in the final match of the three-game T20I series against Australia prior to the T20 World Cup, Ponting believes the right-hander has lost some of his trademark timing when at the crease.

Ponting harbours concerns that Babar no longer has the power he once possessed to maximise the middle overs of a batting innings, pondering whether he’s playing the right role for the team.

Shastri echoed those thoughts, with the pair unpacking Pakistan’s dilemma when speaking with host Sanjana Ganesan on the latest episode of The ICC Review.

“If you're 15 off 18 balls, you're not just putting pressure on yourself, you're putting pressure on the guy at the other end,” Ponting said.

“The guy at the other end then knows that he's got to be the one to take up the boundary scoring. Babar needs to hit boundaries early on. He needs to get off and going, he needs two boundaries in his first six balls, otherwise the whole momentum of the game is going to change every time he goes in.”

Shastri worries Babar’s reputation is applying even more pressure to the situation.

“When you are at that stage of your career, there's baggage,” said Shastri.

“There's a weight of expectation. People expect you to go out there and deliver. Get out there (and) in your first five balls, I don't care if you get out, but I want you to make an effort to hit a couple of boundaries. Choose your spot, get into good positions, anticipate what the bowler is doing. You will feel a lot better and things might change.”

Babar batted at No.4 in Pakistan's T20 World Cup opener against the Netherlands, which Ponting believes only adds to the growing pressure.

“It just to me looks like he's lost a bit of his power, his ball striking ability, like taking that spinner on the way he did and not being able to even go close to clearing it,” Ponting continued.

“I defended him at the start of the tournament … a big name player in a big events … experience, you need (those players) in your side if you're going to win. Pakistan need the best version of Babar Azam if they're going to go further in this tournament.”

Ponting suggested Pakistan should even consider returning Babar to his more favoured position in the batting order at first drop.

“I would even think about batting him at No.3,” said Ponting.

“I think the earlier he goes in, if he can get some time inside the Powerplay with the field up, I think that's going to help him because if he has just lost that little bit of power, then you need everything in your favour. So having only two fielders out would help him. The guys that (are) batting after him have got plenty of power anyway. They can take advantage of those middle overs with the spinners on and the fielders out.”

“They've got a big decision to make whether he stays in or whether they leave him out.”

Shastri also has his doubts as to whether Babar should still be a starter for Pakistan.

“There will be questions asked,” Shastri continued.

“He’s a quality player … we know he's got the experience to adjust very quickly, but he has to do it quickly because (the middle overs are) a very crucial period of play. In T20 cricket, you can't give it that much time unless the conditions are really in favor of the bowlers.”

Pakistan’s next T20 World Cup fixture is a date with the USA in Colombo on February 11.

Source: ICC
 
Ball Blazer said:
Ponting, Shastri dissect Pakistan's dilemma with Babar Azam

ICC Hall of Famer Ricky Ponting and respected commentator Ravi Shastri have offered insight amid Babar Azam’s inconsistent recent form.

The Pakistan great made a scratchy 15 off 18 in his side’s first-up three-wicket win over the Netherlands, in what was the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2026 opener.

While Babar hit an unbeaten half-century against Australia in the final match of the three-game T20I series against Australia prior to the T20 World Cup, Ponting believes the right-hander has lost some of his trademark timing when at the crease.

Ponting harbours concerns that Babar no longer has the power he once possessed to maximise the middle overs of a batting innings, pondering whether he’s playing the right role for the team.

Shastri echoed those thoughts, with the pair unpacking Pakistan’s dilemma when speaking with host Sanjana Ganesan on the latest episode of The ICC Review.

“If you're 15 off 18 balls, you're not just putting pressure on yourself, you're putting pressure on the guy at the other end,” Ponting said.

“The guy at the other end then knows that he's got to be the one to take up the boundary scoring. Babar needs to hit boundaries early on. He needs to get off and going, he needs two boundaries in his first six balls, otherwise the whole momentum of the game is going to change every time he goes in.”

Shastri worries Babar’s reputation is applying even more pressure to the situation.

“When you are at that stage of your career, there's baggage,” said Shastri.

“There's a weight of expectation. People expect you to go out there and deliver. Get out there (and) in your first five balls, I don't care if you get out, but I want you to make an effort to hit a couple of boundaries. Choose your spot, get into good positions, anticipate what the bowler is doing. You will feel a lot better and things might change.”

Babar batted at No.4 in Pakistan's T20 World Cup opener against the Netherlands, which Ponting believes only adds to the growing pressure.

“It just to me looks like he's lost a bit of his power, his ball striking ability, like taking that spinner on the way he did and not being able to even go close to clearing it,” Ponting continued.

“I defended him at the start of the tournament … a big name player in a big events … experience, you need (those players) in your side if you're going to win. Pakistan need the best version of Babar Azam if they're going to go further in this tournament.”

Ponting suggested Pakistan should even consider returning Babar to his more favoured position in the batting order at first drop.

“I would even think about batting him at No.3,” said Ponting.

“I think the earlier he goes in, if he can get some time inside the Powerplay with the field up, I think that's going to help him because if he has just lost that little bit of power, then you need everything in your favour. So having only two fielders out would help him. The guys that (are) batting after him have got plenty of power anyway. They can take advantage of those middle overs with the spinners on and the fielders out.”

“They've got a big decision to make whether he stays in or whether they leave him out.”

Shastri also has his doubts as to whether Babar should still be a starter for Pakistan.

“There will be questions asked,” Shastri continued.

“He’s a quality player … we know he's got the experience to adjust very quickly, but he has to do it quickly because (the middle overs are) a very crucial period of play. In T20 cricket, you can't give it that much time unless the conditions are really in favor of the bowlers.”

Pakistan’s next T20 World Cup fixture is a date with the USA in Colombo on February 11.

Source: ICC
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Cent by cent agree with Ponting and Babar needs to take responsibility ,
:ravi
 
He's struggled to score against Netherlands and Usa.... Its one thing struggling against the best team its another sruggling against associates. :kamran
 
Still the most gifted Pakistani batsman?

The thread was created on 30 September, 2025.​
 
Gifted batsman

Sorry to say he is just average player

Vanishes when he is needed at crease
 
Mohammad Yousaf speaking during an interview:

“If you look at Babar Azam, I’ve been saying it for two or three years now—and I even said it on TV—that his technique has deteriorated. No player stays “out of form” for three years. A player can be out of form for two or three series, yes, but not for this long. People keep saying he’s out of form, but that’s not the case anymore. These days, it’s not about being out of form—he simply hasn’t been scoring runs for three years. And I said it back then, when it first started.”

“When I was Pakistan's selector, I told everyone internally that Babar needs to be rested for a while. I told them that we need to send him to domestic, so that he could work on his game. They were looking at me and were confused: 'What are you saying? Do you want to drop Babar Azam?' They turned against me for suggesting that, and that is why I resigned as the selector.”

“What happened after that? Only 4-5 months later, they dropped Babar Azam from the Test team. I only wanted the best for Babar Azam and for Pakistan. He needed to improve his technique.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024375475452207389
 
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BouncerGuy said:
Mohammad Yousaf speaking during an interview:

“If you look at Babar Azam, I’ve been saying it for two or three years now—and I even said it on TV—that his technique has deteriorated. No player stays “out of form” for three years. A player can be out of form for two or three series, yes, but not for this long. People keep saying he’s out of form, but that’s not the case anymore. These days, it’s not about being out of form—he simply hasn’t been scoring runs for three years. And I said it back then, when it first started.”

“When I was Pakistan's selector, I told everyone internally that Babar needs to be rested for a while. I told them that we need to send him to domestic, so that he could work on his game. They were looking at me and were confused: 'What are you saying? Do you want to drop Babar Azam?' They turned against me for suggesting that, and that is why I resigned as the selector.”

“What happened after that? Only 4-5 months later, they dropped Babar Azam from the Test team. I only wanted the best for Babar Azam and for Pakistan. He needed to improve his technique.”
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I have been saying the same thing on this forum for a long time. Babar should have gone to the UK and played county cricket to improve his flaws and iron out his weaknesses. Instead whenever he wasn’t on national duty, he was either playing foreign T20 matches or modeling. Cricket was a secondary consideration for him.

Unfortunately, this culture was allowed to take hold and other players such as Shaheen and others joined the fun. Even when they were dropped, they didn’t play domestic cricket because they knew they would be picked up again without resolving the reasons they were dropped.

The PCB is totally to blame for this madness.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Mohammad Yousaf speaking during an interview:

“If you look at Babar Azam, I’ve been saying it for two or three years now—and I even said it on TV—that his technique has deteriorated. No player stays “out of form” for three years. A player can be out of form for two or three series, yes, but not for this long. People keep saying he’s out of form, but that’s not the case anymore. These days, it’s not about being out of form—he simply hasn’t been scoring runs for three years. And I said it back then, when it first started.”

“When I was Pakistan's selector, I told everyone internally that Babar needs to be rested for a while. I told them that we need to send him to domestic, so that he could work on his game. They were looking at me and were confused: 'What are you saying? Do you want to drop Babar Azam?' They turned against me for suggesting that, and that is why I resigned as the selector.”

“What happened after that? Only 4-5 months later, they dropped Babar Azam from the Test team. I only wanted the best for Babar Azam and for Pakistan. He needed to improve his technique.”
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https://twitter.com/x/status/2024383750151585806
 
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