Schizophrenia - Anyone here ever dealt with it?

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I close relative was diagnosed with Schizophonia some years back spending time in hospital. He was released after supposedly getting better however I often still see him behaving in a strange manner. He is always deep in his own thoughts and muttering something to himself never paying any attention to what the other person is saying or making strange signs with his hands. It triggered off after his marriage proposal to a young lady was rejected then he lost his job as well. I don't know how to deal with something like this having had no previous experience. Anyone here ever dealt with something like this?
 
U need advice from a professional to deal with something like this buddy. I wouldn't be listening to any random PPers on an illness like this one.
 
It's Schizophrenia. Schizophonia is a whole different subject.

I'll advise you to goto a different doctor for another opinion.

He seems young, and onset was acute. May be depression hitting him hard.
 
It's Schizophrenia. Schizophonia is a whole different subject.

I'll advise you to goto a different doctor for another opinion.

He seems young, and onset was acute. May be depression hitting him hard.

There's no such thing as gradual onset schizophrenia all cases are acute onset. Also you don't get schizophrenia from depression. In severe depression you can develop psychotic symptoms such as auditory hallucinations which has overlap with schizophrenic symproms.


Schizophrenia is a condition which involves a number of psychotic features. Psychotic meaning losing sense of reality. When dealing with a person with schizophrenia you need to understand that this isn't there fault, they can't control it and it could happen to anyone. You've got to understand that the symptoms they perceive are as real to them as anything you see or hear or believe. It's not something you can convince them isn't real using logic. Don't overly challenge them, but most importantly have sympathy and remember this could happen to anyone, they can't help it. How to deal with delusions - common delusions can be persecutary or paranoid - thinking people are talking or laughing about you, that your neighbour is plotting against you, can be delusions of granduer - thinking you are a god or Jesus etc. Another facet of schizophrenia is thought disorder - they may think people can hear their thoughts or that someone is controlling their thoughts or controlling them. They may have difficulty in speaking coherently and fluently. A common feature is auditory hallucinations - they may hear voices that tell them to harm themselves or telling them theyre useless and other negative things and this can be very distressing for them. A schizophrenic may have all or Just one of these symptoms. There are many other symptoms but I've just mentioned some common ones. These patients need medication and properly being looked after.
 
My eldest uncle suffers from it - it actually began quite early on in his life.

It happens in fits - he appears normal sometimes but can lose his mind and speak about things that are nonsense/or do not exist at other times.

He is in his 80's now and appears to be in good health otherwise...
 
My eldest uncle suffers from it - it actually began quite early on in his life.

It happens in fits - he appears normal sometimes but can lose his mind and speak about things that are nonsense/or do not exist at other times.

He is in his 80's now and appears to be in good health otherwise...

That could be dementia. My Uncle also in his mid 80's has been diagnosed with dementia. There seems to be similarities between the two diseases.
 
That could be dementia. My Uncle also in his mid 80's has been diagnosed with dementia. There seems to be similarities between the two diseases.

What is the difference?
 
What is the difference?

Dementia is memory loss and age greatly age related. Schizo is not age related, there are other minor differences as well. Schizo's can be a danger to themselves as well as others too.
 
I do. I have been taking Q-Mind SR tablets for years to deal with it.
 
There's no such thing as gradual onset schizophrenia all cases are acute onset. Also you don't get schizophrenia from depression. In severe depression you can develop psychotic symptoms such as auditory hallucinations which has overlap with schizophrenic symproms.


Schizophrenia is a condition which involves a number of psychotic features. Psychotic meaning losing sense of reality. When dealing with a person with schizophrenia you need to understand that this isn't there fault, they can't control it and it could happen to anyone. You've got to understand that the symptoms they perceive are as real to them as anything you see or hear or believe. It's not something you can convince them isn't real using logic. Don't overly challenge them, but most importantly have sympathy and remember this could happen to anyone, they can't help it. How to deal with delusions - common delusions can be persecutary or paranoid - thinking people are talking or laughing about you, that your neighbour is plotting against you, can be delusions of granduer - thinking you are a god or Jesus etc. Another facet of schizophrenia is thought disorder - they may think people can hear their thoughts or that someone is controlling their thoughts or controlling them. They may have difficulty in speaking coherently and fluently. A common feature is auditory hallucinations - they may hear voices that tell them to harm themselves or telling them theyre useless and other negative things and this can be very distressing for them. A schizophrenic may have all or Just one of these symptoms. There are many other symptoms but I've just mentioned some common ones. These patients need medication and properly being looked after.

You do realize that doctors fail in differential diagnosis and come to wrong conclusions at times.

Just because one doctor says it, it doesn't mean he has it.

Going by the chain of events, it just looks like he's in a mentally shock state and his mind is failing to cop up with the stress.

If the above chain of events occurs, more or less, the people will show one or the other behavior. It doesn't mean everyone is schizophrenic.
 
Many Muslim's have been diagnosed with schizophrenia over the past few years. Some began believing they were the Mahdi or Hazrat Isa)(as) in the form of his second coming.
 
You do realize that doctors fail in differential diagnosis and come to wrong conclusions at times.

Just because one doctor says it, it doesn't mean he has it.

Going by the chain of events, it just looks like he's in a mentally shock state and his mind is failing to cop up with the stress.

If the above chain of events occurs, more or less, the people will show one or the other behavior. It doesn't mean everyone is schizophrenic.

I would trust the doctor who has seen the patient repeatedly over the guy making a differential diagnosis after reading two lines on the internet.
 
How do you feel I mean do you get angry for no reason?

Not really. My problem is that I keep conversing with people in my mind 24/7. I don't mutter things though, I merely keep conversing in my mind.
 
Not really. My problem is that I keep conversing with people in my mind 24/7. I don't mutter things though, I merely keep conversing in my mind.

Do you pay attention when someone else is talking to you or are you always in your own thoughts?
 
Do you pay attention when someone else is talking to you or are you always in your own thoughts?

No. But that's one of the main symptoms. My doctor has always asked me whether I feel people are talking about me behind my back or conspiring against me.
 
No. But that's one of the main symptoms. My doctor has always asked me whether I feel people are talking about me behind my back or conspiring against me.

Do you feel that people are conspiring against you without any solid evidence?
 
Do you feel that people are conspiring against you without any solid evidence?

No I don't, but like I said before that's one of the foremost symptoms. My doctor has always and repeatedly asked me that question. There are various symptoms of the disease but that's one symptom I don't suffer from.
 
I guess it's also a genetic thing. One of my cousins who was 13 years older to me committed suicide in 1997. He used to suffer from severe schizophrenia. It was in 1993, I believe, it was my birthday. He was showing some symptoms from a few months before that, refraining from speaking to people, refusing to respond to people when they speak to him. He was not speaking at all during my birthday party that day. The party was over, they went home and an hour after that he went completely crazy. He was visualizing army people bothering him, people trying to poison him, hearing all sort of unreal stuff particularly people speaking to him in his ear. I mean he went insane for a lot of days after that. Fortunately he regained his senses after being hospitalized for a few days and being under medication. But unfortunately never fully recovered from it and in August, 1997 he committed suicide by setting himself ablaze.
 
Not really. My problem is that I keep conversing with people in my mind 24/7. I don't mutter things though, I merely keep conversing in my mind.


Do the people in your mind participate in the discussion? Are they nice?
 
Do the people in your mind participate in the discussion? Are they nice?

They are real life as well as fictional people. Yes, they do converse with me. I was diagnosed back in 2001 and it's been going on since then.
 
I think an incident can spark it off. Person I am talking off well his marriage proposal was rejected then he lost his job. Since then he has also lost another job because his employer's felt his behaviour was not right. He of course believes nothing is wrong. Some days he seems fine where as on other ones acts weird and strange.
 
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