Security Concerns at the NSK

[Saj]

This picture is extremely worrying and from what I'm hearing from people who were at one or both matches over the weekend, the security was not as tight as it should have been.

Surely as a showpiece occasion and one that was lauded as the return of international cricketers back to Pakistan it should have been much tighter.

 

[zaid65]

The only safe place to play cricket in Pakistan is at president house. ( With US commandos surrounded the house).

 

[Sherlock]

Lets be honest here this sort of thing has been happening for years and not just the other night.

To point it out because of whats happening in Pakistan isn't right.

 

[the Great Khan]

maybe the threat itself is exaggerated??

 

[Madplayer]

Leaving everything aside, where will you see such passion and desperation among people to watch a cricket match.

 

[Saqs]

Lets be honest here this sort of thing has been happening for years and not just the other night.

To point it out because of whats happening in Pakistan isn't right.

This. Happens in India Bang Sharjah and Dubai also.

 

[Shayan]

Lets be honest here this sort of thing has been happening for years and not just the other night.

To point it out because of whats happening in Pakistan isn't right.

I agree it's been happening for years, but surely there was a duty to ensure nothing of the sort happened on such an important occasion?

It's vital that if we're to start hosting international cricket again, there should be absolutely no room for complaints on any matter whatsoever.

 

[dhump]

maybe the threat itself is exaggerated??

It is terrifying for the sole reason that the whole point of this event was to show that Pakistan is safe for cricket and we can manage international events and such pictures are not really matching the claims.

 

[Mamoon]

A very dramatic thread IMO.

This happens on regular basis in India, SL and Bangladesh too. Happened in Pakistan before as well.

 

[khalil1986]

maybe the threat itself is exaggerated??

Of course 2009 never happened

 

[Mian Hassan]

I think if people think Pakistan can host a game or even think a international team will visit Pakistan???? DREAM ON!!!!! the country is not safe

And I think we haven't learned our lessons we should be thankfull nobody died of the sri lankan team but I think we want something terrible to happen...

let the war finish then start thinking of Cricket in Pakistan not important at the moment

And if peopl say,... Sanath jayasuriya said its safe.... no he got Paid to say it... its not safe!!

 

[Shayan]

A very dramatic thread IMO.

This happens on regular basis in India, SL and Bangladesh too. Happened in Pakistan before as well.

It's probably dramatic because nothing negative actually happened, so the feeling is that all's well that ends well.

I may be completely wrong here, but that picture suggests that there were people inside the ground that did not have a ticket. If they didn't have a ticket, the assumption is they never went through any sort of security check.

Is that acceptable considering what we were trying to achieve here?

 

[Maher96]

How can u control junglees?

The police or security cant do much.

 

[W63L35]

If you look closely at the picture, you can clearly see that there is NO WAY these people could get into the stadium. They got up there just so they could see the match through the fence...which seems pretty solid.

Now as far as security issue concerned, if somebody was going to do something stupid, he did not need to climb up there..... to do something stupid.

 

[srh]

If you look closely at the picture, you can clearly see that there is NO WAY these people could get into the stadium. They got up there just so they could see the match through the fence...which seems pretty solid.

Now as far as security issue concerned, if somebody was going to do something stupid, he did not need to climb up there..... to do something stupid.

Good point. Thread can be closed now.

 

[the Great Khan]

Of course 2009 never happened

oh here we go..why did the 2009 attack happen? ever wonder? there was no security..the whole structure was dumped as soon as the govt was dismissed..if the state is providing heavy security as they did i am confident they can deal with things..

ultimatley the only real way to sort things out is to get out of the WOT

 

[MAAJafri]

If you tried to get that number of people down using force then there would be complete anarchy. This kind of stuff happens and the authorities have to distinguish between the cricket fanatics and the terrorist fanatics

 

[Areesh]

If you look closely at the picture, you can clearly see that there is NO WAY these people could get into the stadium. They got up there just so they could see the match through the fence...which seems pretty solid.

Now as far as security issue concerned, if somebody was going to do something stupid, he did not need to climb up there..... to do something stupid.

This. There is no way they would enter the stadium from there. They were just trying to get a glimpse of the game without paying for the tickets.

 

[iafzal]

True Passion it seems, risking life to get a glimpse.

Keeping it in perspective this also happens in the same country of ours so it may look unsafe but it is much safer than this

 

[deviously~fading~away]

If you look closely at the picture, you can clearly see that there is NO WAY these people could get into the stadium. They got up there just so they could see the match through the fence...which seems pretty solid.

Now as far as security issue concerned, if somebody was going to do something stupid, he did not need to climb up there..... to do something stupid.

All TTP had to do was have a sucide bomber blow himself standing next to the people in that picture & you could have waved good bye to cricket in pakistan for the next 20+ years

 

[W63L35]

All TTP had to do was have a sucide bomber blow himself standing next to the people in that picture & you could have waved good bye to cricket in pakistan for the next 20+ years

Where do you think TTP had more chance.... in picture from post #1 or in the following picture.... where do you see more people? I would be more concerned about the following picture than the picture in OP.... where fence may protect a few people.... and people would sitting on only one side...not all around you like in the picture below!

 

[basitmian]

all you need is a wire bolt cutter and a mobile device....lol

 

[Looney]

I see no problem .

 

[Usman]

Am I missing something here? As far as I can see, those people are climbing the frames, but aren't anywhere near actually getting into the stadium.

 

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

to the thread poster

what do you want?? stop people from being enthusiastic??

have you liked if the cricket matches would have been played with on spectators

for your information there is a large premises sorrounding NSK and with proper boundaries

and this is the main gate, anybody passing that security check is practically not a threat

 

[Saj]

If you look closely at the picture, you can clearly see that there is NO WAY these people could get into the stadium. They got up there just so they could see the match through the fence

And what if I were to tell you that these people did get into the stadium

 

[Saj]

what do you want?? stop people from being enthusiastic??

So this is enthusiasm....erm right !

The sad fact is that if the facts were revealed about what went on in terms of security and safety over tyhe weekend, most people would be stunned.

 

[shaaan]

Despite what went on about the security, the fact is nothing happened. You may be right that there is a lot that can be improved in terms of security, but the FACT is and we all witnessed a game where nothing untoward happened.

 

[JibranAnsari]

There can never be enough security .

 

[srh]

And what if I were to tell you that these people did get into the stadium

you mean some of these people cut the fences? why would a spectator go to stadium with a fence cutter?

 

[Runner Up]

The pic posted in OP is from Inside the Boundary wall where people enter after proper security check. It's a case of bunch of undisciplined people trying to look for shortcut. Some people were throwing plastic bottles and garbage in the ground was really shameful act.

 

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

The pic posted in OP is from Inside the Boundary wall where people enter after proper security check..

thats exactly my point which probably saj failed to understand

 

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

you mean some of these people cut the fences? why would a spectator go to stadium with a fence cutter?

these people are probably couldnt get the seat in NSK being already jam packed, according to the commentators NSK was already more than its capacitaty, it has max of 35-40k space but 45k were present

spectators were even climbing on the roof to watch the match

 

[spaceshot]

Lets be honest here this sort of thing has been happening for years and not just the other night.

To point it out because of whats happening in Pakistan isn't right.

Yea def.
Are you forgetting why no cricket been taking place in pak ?

 

[Saj]

The pic posted in OP is from Inside the Boundary wall where people enter after proper security check. It's a case of bunch of undisciplined people trying to look for shortcut. Some people were throwing plastic bottles and garbage in the ground was really shameful act.

There were also issues at the main gates. Major issues. Issues that should not have been overlooked.

Let's see if any of the Pakistani media picks up and reports on what happened.

 

[Saqlain_doosra]

I agree it's been happening for years, but surely there was a duty to ensure nothing of the sort happened on such an important occasion?

It's vital that if we're to start hosting international cricket again, there should be absolutely no room for complaints on any matter whatsoever.

At this moment in time ICC can complain about anything not to play in Pakistan. I think we are looking at minimum 15 to 20 years before cricket returns to Pakistan. Maybe Pakistan will move on to another sports by then(hopefully football)

 

[Looney]

Saj , we don`t know what those issues were so we can`t comment on it . Like someone said , there can never be enough security . Those who want to attack again will find a way around it . Not just Pakistan but even countries like the US and UK have been attacked who should find it easier to protect their people than us .

Our institutions are corrupt and incompetent and before we start hosting series with full ICC members , we need to address these issues . Even when SL team was attack , it was said that only PCB members knew about the route , they did not go with the other regular route . This information was apparently leaked to them . The videos we saw of the attack , the security team pretended to have been killed and got back up again when the terrorists left . The attackers seemed like they were in no hurry to flee from the scene . Thpse criminals have still not been punished .

That was the highest level of security we provided .

 

[liaqat]

jangali hon meh jangali karachi he mera ghar

 

[liaqat]

i as a pakistan would say to all international foreign teams , STAY AWAY FROM PAKISTAN

its not safe,, when the lahore attacker are walking free and not a single one was ever caught ,,(considering they attacked in broad day light and caught on camera)

its show's the level of incompetency ...

if pak want to grow their youth etc then they need to change the domestic system and be more fair and invest money in the youth system,

 

[Executioner]

the big question is..shouldnt there be a drop-off point? and how did fans without ticket pass through the outer gates? or there isnt any outer gates?

there are outer gates in chittagong where the tickets are checked, so if u dont have ticket...you wont even be a 100m from the stadium

 

[Areesh]

i as a pakistan would say to all international foreign teams , STAY AWAY FROM PAKISTAN

its not safe,, when the lahore attacker are walking free and not a single one was ever caught ,,(considering they attacked in broad day light and caught on camera)

its show's the level of incompetency ...

if pak want to grow their youth etc then they need to change the domestic system and be more fair and invest money in the youth system,

One or two of attackers was killed in clash with security forces a few months ago in Punjab. A few were arrested also. You seem to be living under a stone.

And like international foreign teams would take your opinion to come to Pakistan that you are writing rubbish with caps lock on.

 

[Areesh]

Saj , we don`t know what those issues were so we can`t comment on it . Like someone said , there can never be enough security . Those who want to attack again will find a way around it . Not just Pakistan but even countries like the US and UK have been attacked who should find it easier to protect their people than us .

Our institutions are corrupt and incompetent and before we start hosting series with full ICC members , we need to address these issues . Even when SL team was attack , it was said that only PCB members knew about the route , they did not go with the other regular route . This information was apparently leaked to them . The videos we saw of the attack , the security team pretended to have been killed and got back up again when the terrorists left . The attackers seemed like they were in no hurry to flee from the scene . Thpse criminals have still not been punished .

That was the highest level of security we provided .

Lol. Considering the kind of security that Pakistani president and PM receive it was not even the lowest level of security. The fact is that there was a poltical ruckus in Punjab at that time and whole provincial establishment was demolished and non functional thanks to our late governor of Punjab Mr Salman Taseer.

 

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

the big question is..shouldnt there be a drop-off point? and how did fans without ticket pass through the outer gates? or there isnt any outer gates?

there are outer gates in chittagong where the tickets are checked, so if u dont have ticket...you wont even be a 100m from the stadium

technically the tickets are for inside the stadium, there is no ticket invented to watch the game from the balconey

it was a match after 3 years(more in case of karachi because gaddafi stadium has been only hosting matches since long time) so the ticket had low price, nearly free and public must have been let it

 

[ahsan17]

I think we need some context to the picture. As some others noted and asked, did these individuals reach the walls by going through proper security checks prior? If so, this picture, while still somewhat disconcerting, should not raise any major alarms.

 

[MenInG]

Why doesn't the PCB hold its pre-series camps at the NSK?

Valid question - now that the stadium has been prepared for international games also. Only if PCB uses NSK regularly will confidence in cricket in other cities be truly restored.

If we can't hold a training camp in NSK then how can we expect others to send teams there?

I understand that NCA is in Lahore but then maybe, here is a case for building a facility in Karachi also (if needed in this case)