HAhaahah how many matches have Abid Ali got, how does one make replacement on your planet?
This sick & selfish player has been kept with the team even when his test average went under 20
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HAhaahah how many matches have Abid Ali got, how does one make replacement on your planet?
This sick & selfish player has been kept with the team even when his test average went under 20
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So 32 year old Abid Ali is Babar's replacement? Can he average 50+ at 85 strike rate?
He does better check his stats
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In List A?
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Mind boggling how Babar can be labelled selfish. Cry when he does not score runs & cry when he does. What more so you want from him?? He aint not Buttler. This is he’s game.
Pak fans deserve the likes of Malik & Shehzad.
Pak fans deserve the likes of Malik & Shehzad.
No one asked him to become buttler, he can atleast play with a strike rate of more than 100 when pitch is flattest in the world. Sick and tired of hearing this logic that he is not in the team to accelerate or to hit big .... he should adapt with the game's/conditions requirement if he is a team player. Period
For that babar needs to be dropped for 10-15 matches to give a fair chance to any of Saud,Abid or even Haris at 3,but your team managment aren't willing to do that , they didn't do that though they should have done it year and half ago to try out other players. But as Babar is untouchable,every one's favourite ,has good relations with influential people like Ramiz and Mickey he can't be dropped even if team lose 10 consecutive matches ...
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Every man and his dog has witnessed this series that 7-8 runs an over is par on these wickets
Why would you then make no effort to get close to that and instead go at 6 an over?
That was a poor innings in the context of this whole series
Why would you then make no effort to get close to that and instead go at 6 an over?
That was a poor innings in the context of this whole series
Babar has all the talent, just a matter of intent really ... He really should look to change gears once he gets past 50 ... if you play 100 balls, minimum you should be getting is 120 and he is very capable of doing that ...
It just seems he hasn't kicked on in that regard yet.
It just seems he hasn't kicked on in that regard yet.
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The wrist slitters and "Pakistanis" are out in force now.
Babar gets a century with a sr above 100 and they want 300 at a sr of 500.
Bravo folks
Babar gets a century with a sr above 100 and they want 300 at a sr of 500.
Bravo folks
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Really pathetic having a go at Babar with a Sr over 100.
Classic pak fans.
If root scores that no one will be complaining
Classic pak fans.
If root scores that no one will be complaining
cannot believe the stick this guy is getting! His innings was perfectly paced! You cannot expect every batsman to score 100 of 60 balls. I think 340/350 is a perfectly good score! Bowlers need to defend... You cannot hide them. We all talk about the pitch but the fact is England's bowlers ARE VERY average. They make it up with a fantastic batting line up. Our bowler's need to step up!
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Maybe Babar could have batted a few balls faster but by in large it was a good innings that set up a good total for us. He played well..
Even bowling is getting a force to reckon with - now that Archer is in the team. Although spin department is still mediocre.
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He is a very selfish player, this isn't something which hasn't been pointed out before.
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Thats not how it works. You dont drop performing players like that. They can only be replaced when there are better performing players in domstic cricket. Who in domestic LA cricket plays better than Babar in terms of average, strike rate and technique to cope with international class bowlers? Is there an answer to this question?
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Has yet to score a 50+ knock in a match won against the top 5 (SENAI). For a player who has been playing for Pakistan for 4 years, says it all really. Not to forget when he said in a recent interview, something along the lines of "I am number 1 ranked batsman in T20Is without power hitting". This statement tells you two things, firstly he's milestones minded and secondly he has little to no ambition to take his game to the next level.
Yet some posters want him to be captain?! He crumbles under the slightest pressure with the bat, how do you expect him to cope with a step up responsibility to lead the side?
If he doesn't change his attitude in the WC, he needs to be dropped for the best part of a year, so he will learn his lesson and know his place.
He knows he's the best batsman in the side and is deliberately slowing down after 75-80 runs, so he can secure his tons.
No joke, his dismissal in the CT final (while he was batting in the 40s), was a blessing in disguise that day.
Forget Virat Kohli, he will never be as good as Joe Root and Williamson in ODIs. He should stick to tests, where he can be as selfish as he wants.
Sarfraz has made me angry in the last two years but I understand how incompetent he is and I blame the PCB and selectors for not enforcing the change in captaincy, whereas with Babar he just doesn't have the pride and passion to win matches for Pakistan.
Yet some posters want him to be captain?! He crumbles under the slightest pressure with the bat, how do you expect him to cope with a step up responsibility to lead the side?
If he doesn't change his attitude in the WC, he needs to be dropped for the best part of a year, so he will learn his lesson and know his place.
He knows he's the best batsman in the side and is deliberately slowing down after 75-80 runs, so he can secure his tons.
No joke, his dismissal in the CT final (while he was batting in the 40s), was a blessing in disguise that day.
Forget Virat Kohli, he will never be as good as Joe Root and Williamson in ODIs. He should stick to tests, where he can be as selfish as he wants.
Sarfraz has made me angry in the last two years but I understand how incompetent he is and I blame the PCB and selectors for not enforcing the change in captaincy, whereas with Babar he just doesn't have the pride and passion to win matches for Pakistan.
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Babar played his role very well. The others around him need to up their game and I am not seeing likes of Imam, Haris, Shoaib, Hafeez, Sarfraz, Imad, Faheem are in that league. Perhaps Haris is needed for the time when Babar fails.
So far we only have Babar and Fakhar. We need a few players of the quality of Sharjeel. Still not convinced of Asif, though he has done well in this ODI series.
So far we only have Babar and Fakhar. We need a few players of the quality of Sharjeel. Still not convinced of Asif, though he has done well in this ODI series.
That's the thing, if he DOES score just a bit more, the overall impact would be greater for the team ... At this point that's what is needed from our core batsmen Fakhar, Imam and Babar. These 3 and in particular Imam & Babar need to maximize their output further to ease the burden on the rest.
Babar slowed down needlessly when he got to 80 today. Had he looked to kick on, may be we get closer to 370.
Pakistan is losing in the margins game really.
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He lacks in the intensity and desire to take his game to the next level. At this age he should be showing signs of increasing his SR as his innings goes along, but he just hasn't improved in this aspect.
this is the same ground where 400 are scored multiple times on yearly basis in county and Int matches, here player score 100s with a strike rate of 140... yet you are here and trying to defend the undefendable. Open your eyes
What's his technique? He can't even play spin well, he was even struggling denly ..didn't you see that? He struggles with the moving ball, on flattest pitches he plays with a SR of 90-100 when worldclass batters do better than that.. how many players have you tried at 3 since 2015? 2015 was when conditions really started to favour the batsmen and from then on it has become really easy to score runs...you never gave any player a proper chance, Saud has been scoring runs in domestic in both formats has better stats than babar, but he is not even being picked..so is it fair? We are made to believe that babar is worldclass and our best batsman so other players should never be given a chance how is it fair? why Saud, despite better FC/LIST A record can't get into the Pak side? Why Abid cannot be tried as an opener or even at 3 despite performing for years where babar actually failed. Babar's FC record is worse than all of these players yet he is automatic selection in test and his dots ball issue,slow SR issue get ignored in ODIs all the time...is it really fair to treat players differently? There is not a single match winning knock you can mention which babar played against top 6-7 sides in his 4 years..yet he is our best bat? Strange
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400 or more has only been scored twice here, Pakistan have the second highest score by a non English team on this ground.
Babar Azam has a sr of 95 or so on this ground, equalling the same number of centuries as Morgan and Root and more than Buttler and Roy.
I think if you stopped lying and actually watched the game, you wouldn't pots such rubbish.
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May I ask how many ODI batsmen under 25 have an average of 50 or more and a sr of 100+ ?
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400 has only been scored twice? How many times do you want it to be scored before you acknowledge today was below par again
If the last 2 games before this werent a good guide of what kind of total shouldve been put up then im afraid nothing will convince some
No sane person wants babar out But the fact is he shouldve known when he came in that he probably needs to show urgency from ball one thats he need to go at a strike rate of 125 today to get to that 375-400 and he didnt even try Thats the worrying aspect that hes not willing to push himself and improve
Nobody minds losing but when the cricket is lazy and lethargic When theres a lack of intent and fielders arent put under pressure then fans will have a go
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You said 400 has been scored many times, that many batsmen get centuries at sr of 140 and so on. Can you back it up?
Pakistan have just hit the second highest score by an away team, the last one being 4 years ago by NZ. How is Babar's batting so bad that he has hindered Pakistan to the point where they have scored better than all other teams on this ground?
I'd like some facts to back up your statements.
Lol. Pathetic comeback from babar's fan boy ,though it was expected. How many such 50s and 100s made us win against big teams or on a big stage? He's played in Asia cup, in CT and failed. Yet he is our best bat? tell these nonsensical stats to someone else because I will ur logics apart if I start replying....His career strike rate is not great,his match winning contributions in big matches have been 0. he chickens out in pressure languge, he hasn't improved on his weaknesses and 4 years have already been passed these are not the attributes of a great batsman let alone worldclass.. but blindness don't make people see such things
three county teams have scored 400 this year alone in trent bridge,lol.
I have mentioned it, you can reread instead of telling me what to do
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hahahha
so county teams are representative of international cricket now?
Can you show me how many away sides have scored more runs than Pakistan? And how many batsmen have scored centuries at a sr 140?
This is the 3rd time of asking
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Theres no bearing fans of babar England are going at 7 runs an over plus for the third game ina row but babar fans still think a run a ball hundred from their hero was good enough
Talk about setting ur standards low
Talk about setting ur standards low
hahahha
so county teams are representative of international cricket now?
Can you show me how many away sides have scored more runs than Pakistan? And how many batsmen have scored centuries at a sr 140?
This is the 3rd time of asking
It was just to show how easy is to score runs on England pitches esp on trent bridge so you babar fans boys who were trying to pretend as if babar's played some brilliant knock could shut up and open their eyes and brains. Everyone,every batsmen score quickly at trent bridge ,look at the past 4 years record here.Babar's batting was terrible
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From 80 off 78, Babar went to 97 off 103 before hitting a four to complete his hundred. 17 off 25 balls at that stage is not acceptable for a set batsman. Throughout that period, he only got singles.
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That's absolutely pathetic. On such a flat pitch and it's not like England were bowling superbly either.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some 'experts' on television earlier calling Babar Azam's innings today selfish:<br><br>Babar Azam 59 off 38 balls<br>The rest of the batsmen 47 off 52 balls<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUSvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1190978673668702208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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If only there was some merit or criteria set for becoming an expert and start speaking things on TV. Personal vendettas and supporting certain groups is all the so called cricket experts and analysts do on TV shows now a days with very few neutral and unbiased experts around.
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The funny thing is that a large portion of Pakistanis actually believe everything that some of these experts say. If one of them was to say Shoaib Akhtar should make a comeback as a batsman, thousands of people would seriously think this was right and campaign for it.
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I bet they said in modern cricket every batsman is scoring 150 off 38 balls, not 58. This 50 from Babar belongs in the trash can.
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Exactly and thats what worries me and I think PEMRA should filter out the so called TV experts of every field rather than allowing them to misguide people. Free media is important but irresponsible media is a threat to the well being of the society as a whole and cricket is part of that.
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Following Pakistan's 0-3 whitewash over a second-stringed Sri Lankan side at home, in early October, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) opted for a change in leadership as Sarfaraz Ahmed made way for Babar Azam in T20Is. With the series opener of the three T20Is, versus Australia, being Babar's first assignment as an international captain, the right-hander's first outing in this regard resulted in a washout encounter.
However, there were lots to cherish for the 25-year-old Babar Azam as he broke a plethora of records in his maiden outing as T20I captain for the Men in Green. Pakistan's Mr. Consistent continued his prolific run with the willow and slammed a fine 59, off 38 balls, as Pakistan posted a moderate 107 for 5 in 15 overs. In reply, Australia were 31 for no loss in 3.1 overs before the officials called off the proceedings.
With a fifty on T20I captaincy debut, Babar slammed the highest individual score by a Pakistani player on T20I captaincy debut (surpassing Shahid Afridi's 50). In addition, he stretched his T20 run-tally to 1551 runs in the calendar year, which is the third-most by a player behind Chris Gayle (1665) and Indian skipper Virat Kohli (1614). Lastly, Babar registered his 11th half-century (in just 34 innings) in the format which is the most by a Pakistani. Thus, he surpassed Mohammad Hafeez's tally (10). The veteran has ten scores in excess of 50 in 86 innings.
Talking about the clash, Babar-led Pakistan were asked to bat first after Aaron Finch and Co. won the toss. Babar led from the front and opened the innings along with Fakhar Zaman (0). Most of the scoring was done by him before Mohammad Rizwan (31) took the score beyond three figures in the rain-curtailed 15-over play. In reply, Finch started the onslaught and added 26 runs off Mohammad Irfan's over before the match was abandoned due to rain.
This was only the second instance of Australia hosting Pakistan in a T20I. The second and penultimate match will be played at Manuka Oval, Canberra on November 5 (Tuesday).
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ing-pakistan-australia-clash-in-sydney/511110
However, there were lots to cherish for the 25-year-old Babar Azam as he broke a plethora of records in his maiden outing as T20I captain for the Men in Green. Pakistan's Mr. Consistent continued his prolific run with the willow and slammed a fine 59, off 38 balls, as Pakistan posted a moderate 107 for 5 in 15 overs. In reply, Australia were 31 for no loss in 3.1 overs before the officials called off the proceedings.
With a fifty on T20I captaincy debut, Babar slammed the highest individual score by a Pakistani player on T20I captaincy debut (surpassing Shahid Afridi's 50). In addition, he stretched his T20 run-tally to 1551 runs in the calendar year, which is the third-most by a player behind Chris Gayle (1665) and Indian skipper Virat Kohli (1614). Lastly, Babar registered his 11th half-century (in just 34 innings) in the format which is the most by a Pakistani. Thus, he surpassed Mohammad Hafeez's tally (10). The veteran has ten scores in excess of 50 in 86 innings.
Talking about the clash, Babar-led Pakistan were asked to bat first after Aaron Finch and Co. won the toss. Babar led from the front and opened the innings along with Fakhar Zaman (0). Most of the scoring was done by him before Mohammad Rizwan (31) took the score beyond three figures in the rain-curtailed 15-over play. In reply, Finch started the onslaught and added 26 runs off Mohammad Irfan's over before the match was abandoned due to rain.
This was only the second instance of Australia hosting Pakistan in a T20I. The second and penultimate match will be played at Manuka Oval, Canberra on November 5 (Tuesday).
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ing-pakistan-australia-clash-in-sydney/511110
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Peculiar innings from Babar today for Karachi vs Islamabad.
Was 24 (14) in the powerplay while Sharjeel was really struggling for any kind of timing.
After that, he really slowed down as Sharjeel took off, knocking it around playing the anchor role.
As the innings was coming to a close he really tried to ramp it up, and capitalise on the platform he had set. But he was finding it extremely difficult to do so, missing out on many full tosses and was visibly very frustrated with how it was going. He then seemingly ran himself out for the betterment of the team in the 2nd last over after getting dropped on the boundary.
He only hit 2 boundaries in his last 40 balls, and finished on 62 from 54 with an S/R of 115. Something to work on for him in T20s?
Was 24 (14) in the powerplay while Sharjeel was really struggling for any kind of timing.
After that, he really slowed down as Sharjeel took off, knocking it around playing the anchor role.
As the innings was coming to a close he really tried to ramp it up, and capitalise on the platform he had set. But he was finding it extremely difficult to do so, missing out on many full tosses and was visibly very frustrated with how it was going. He then seemingly ran himself out for the betterment of the team in the 2nd last over after getting dropped on the boundary.
He only hit 2 boundaries in his last 40 balls, and finished on 62 from 54 with an S/R of 115. Something to work on for him in T20s?
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He isn't selfish, he simply can't hit
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He was swinging on every other delivery so I don't get the selfish part. He has always had a problem hitting out and today it was particularly bad probably since he is still going through a bad patch. What is truly worrying is that there hasn't been a significant improvement in his power game for the death overs, some improvement yes but not enough.
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It’s not selfishness. He tried to put away quite a few which he just couldn’t
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Yes. Even at the death tries to time full tosses when u really only need brute power.
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An innings to forget
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On the flattest wicket in PSL it really was abysmal.
I'm afraid to say that I don't think he has the mentality to play match winning knocks.
I look at Rizwan who is a lesser player but possesses elite mentality that Babar is devoid of.
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He's getting back into form. I'd rather him use the PSL to slowly regain his form and confidence, for the World Cup, instead of trying to change his natural game and get out cheaply. It's obviously not ideal for his franchise, but it's not like they can drop him right now either.
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A losing innings today no doubt.
I'm sure he'll learn and comeback stronger.
I'm sure he'll learn and comeback stronger.
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Too orthodox for the middle to late overs and dare I say, playing for his stats
All big innings he played and Pak won show he can play winning knocks, it's been often just him. Just because recently he is not quite in his groove yet does not mean anything wrong with his mentality. You can say he needs to improve his big hitting.
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His innings just lost momentum .... and nothing to take away from Isl bowlers who did bowl well to him
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He’s not selfish. He just doesn’t have the ability to bat at the gear the elite LO players can. Our fans really need to learn the difference. Some players just don’t have the ability to switch gears. Honestly if you think that is selfish, you just lack understanding. No player wants to be not out playing at a low strike rate as they will be out of the team eventually lol.
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Could not have said any better. I simply think Babar - at this stage of his career - has not evolved techniques to switch gears to perk up the run rate. He is the sort of batsman around whom you need really big hitters shooting off around him.
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He is never going to have the ability to switch gears. I think we should just accept it. It’s a worry because the next 2 World T20s will have flat pitches so scores of 200 plus are likely. Babar batted most of today and KK could not get to 200. I don’t see how he will chase or help us score 200 against much better bowlers.
The issue is that people have not realized that it's better to get out going for sixes in a T20 than stay in with the possiblity that you accelerate later Because if you don't succeed doing the latter you've played a match losing innings, i.e. 14(12) is better than 64(52)....People like Babar, Kohli, etc. don't realize this because they're applying ODI strategy to T20s. When it works it looks good, but when it doesn't it can lose the game.
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In the back end of the tournament with wickets getting slower and matches becomming low scoring affairs. Its better for karachi if babar finds some form. He did help the win the title last year.
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He was clearly struggling to find the boundary
Looks out of form Hes not a big hitter anyway but even for him it was a real struggle today He ll hopefylly find his groove
Looks out of form Hes not a big hitter anyway but even for him it was a real struggle today He ll hopefylly find his groove
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Pretty much this.
He is already 26 years old, at his age each of the fab 4 had at least one breakout test series and multiple LOI heroics. Pak fans should just accept that he is very good but tiers below the likes of Kohli, Root, Warner etc.
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Let's not club them together, there is a massive skill gap. At Babar's age Kohli single handedly took us to WT20 Semis. Show me one of his innings where he faced 50+ balls and scored at a SR of 110-115 batting first? Dude averages 50+ at 138 which is an insane stat. One of the best T20 players ever.
Interesting you havent mentioned smith and Williamson
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Do I need to? I thought this is common knowledge and I didn't have to name each and every one of them format-wise.
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Kohli has 2 Player of the tournament awards in WT20s
Has produced some brilliant performances in run chases. Babar is no nowhere close to him even in this format, though he is the most valuable asset for his side.
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Agreed.
In T20Is, IMO Kohli is the best, but Babar certainly has a better record than the likes of Williamson, Root, and Smith in the format.
In ODIs, IMO Kohli is again the best, followed by Root, followed by Rohit Sharma, followed by Williamson. I'd put Babar in a separate category, with the likes of KL Rahul, Shai Hope, perhaps Rishabh Pant, Labuschagne, Shreyas Iyer, and a few others as the ones to look out for in the next 3-4 years where some of these guys will reach their peaks.
Lastly, in tests, I'd again say that Kohli is better in my opinion, followed by Smith, Williamson, and Root. Babar's consistency at test match level has not been that commendable, and he makes too many rookie mistakes which hold him back from reaching better heights. He's probably one for the next few years.
I like Babar as a batsman, but I know that he's being hyped a bit too much given that besides him, our batsmen are a bunch of headless chickens. He doesn't have a hitting switch, so he should really reconsider his role in the team in my opinion. Maybe in two years we'll know where Babar stands in terms of what he's accomplished, and that will give us a better idea.
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The batsmen you have put forward in ODIs have no comparison at all with Babar whether we want to go by, average, SR, performance in WC, expert opinions or ODI rankings.
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[MENTION=153791]UzmanBeast[/MENTION] yes the names you have mentioned can be the few to look forward to but, at the moment Babar is way ahead in terms of performances. Averaging 55 after 77 matches with over 3500 runs and SR of 87 is exceptional. If anyone can achieve such a record out of these players after 70 matches that would be huge achievement.
Why mention kohli thats also common knowledge
Utter and total rubbish. Barbar is without doubt the biggest match winner in Pakistan since Inzamam-ul-Haq. Either you haven't followed the match after match after match Barbar has won Pakistan or if you have, you've got the memory of a goldfish.
I agree today's innings lost momentum at the end but it changes literally nothing when it comes to Barbar's sheer brilliance.
Of the many memorable moments Barbar has given Pakistan, one of my favourites was against the eventual runners up New Zealand in the 2019 World Cup. I was at Edgbaston for that game and saw first hand how brilliant the New Zealand team were, swinging and seaming the ball in hoops. In a do or die World Cup game, Barbar scored a magnificent hundred and won Pakistan the match when it mattered most. At that time at that moment, Barbar was the only man in the whole of Pakistan who could have done that. So please, before commenting on Barbar's apparent lack of elite mentality, do take the time to educate yourself on the facts.
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The hate Babar is getting , especially from the neighbours is interesting. The guy is out of form ( for his standards) and instead of trying to play high risk cricket, he decided to play a long innings and get his basics right. The salty neighbours trying to put him down with some rubbish comparisons, need to get a life. Babar is a top bar and he doesn’t need their endorsement... the world think he is good enough to be fab 4, the pak fans think he is the best bat currently... and that is all that matters.
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How about we wait for the worldcup to see how they fare? Babar, given the first opportunity in the odi World Cup broke a few Pakistani records, and I can bet he would come good, if not better , than the likes of overhyped cricketers from your country.
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