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Are you satisfied with the selection of the squad for Pakistan?


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By overlooking players such as Sufiyan Muqeem and the consistently outstanding Maaz Sadaqat, Pakistan cricket once again highlights serious gaps in its selection process. There appears to be a recurring tendency to rely on established names and past reputations, with players returning from leagues like the BBL will seemingly be walking back into World Cup contention without being judged on recent, impactful performances.

At the same time, those who continue to work hard and deliver consistent results on the domestic circuit often remain on the fringes or are ignored altogether. This imbalance not only risks demotivating emerging talent but also raises concerns about the long-term sustainability of Pakistan cricket. If this pattern continues, it would not be surprising to see a growing number of talented players seek opportunities abroad due to a lack of recognition and support at home.
how many spinners do you want? muqeem is not gonna play ahead of abrar and nawaz, and usman tariq offers something different with his height and control. given saim nearly always bowls his quota with shadab back muqeem is too far down the pecking order.
 
With the exception of Khwaja Nafay, this is a horrible squad announcement. With some of the so-called big name players not available we should have been braver with this squad.

Maaz Sadaqat and Hassan Nawaz should have been included without a doubt.

Can’t believe neither of Muqeem and Akram were selected. I’m sorry Usman Tariq will be exposed once the novelty wears off. Embarassing action that will only give you some rewards against players that have never seen him.

And the fast bowling - why not try Ahmad Daniyal or Ali Raza

And for those “professional” posters. “Ooh undercooked wondercooked before a World Cup”.

You guys do realise that the World Cup is every 2 years. We can’t have every year “oooh don’t risk the World Cup, let’s wait till after” we never see it through. Within 6 months of one World Cup being over it will become “oooh let’s not take a risk, World Cup is just over a year away”!

Same old crappy cycle. Let’s all grow a pair and ask for change. I don’t give a damn about “oooh undercooked undercooked”! Take a risk for a change.

What’s the worst that can happen? A group stage exit? We’re specialists at that anyway.
 
With the exception of Khwaja Nafay, this is a horrible squad announcement. With some of the so-called big name players not available we should have been braver with this squad.

Maaz Sadaqat and Hassan Nawaz should have been included without a doubt.

Can’t believe neither of Muqeem and Akram were selected. I’m sorry Usman Tariq will be exposed once the novelty wears off. Embarassing action that will only give you some rewards against players that have never seen him.

And the fast bowling - why not try Ahmad Daniyal or Ali Raza

And for those “professional” posters. “Ooh undercooked wondercooked before a World Cup”.

You guys do realise that the World Cup is every 2 years. We can’t have every year “oooh don’t risk the World Cup, let’s wait till after” we never see it through. Within 6 months of one World Cup being over it will become “oooh let’s not take a risk, World Cup is just over a year away”!

Same old crappy cycle. Let’s all grow a pair and ask for change. I don’t give a damn about “oooh undercooked undercooked”! Take a risk for a change.

What’s the worst that can happen? A group stage exit? We’re specialists at that anyway.
Hassan nawaz is out of form.
Maaz has been performing barely since 3-4 months so he needs to grind fir now.
Ali Raza is in U19 squad.
However Daniyal or abbas shouldve been there over naseem
 
How an earth is Maaz Sadaqat in the squad it's clearly obvious that the only reason he isnt picked is becouse if he performs it will put pressure on management.
 
Would not have selected Shadab Khan, don't think he did enough to earn a recall.

No Sufiyaan Muqeem in the squad is surprising. But other than that, the squad is fine.
 
With the exception of Khwaja Nafay, this is a horrible squad announcement. With some of the so-called big name players not available we should have been braver with this squad.

Maaz Sadaqat and Hassan Nawaz should have been included without a doubt.

Can’t believe neither of Muqeem and Akram were selected. I’m sorry Usman Tariq will be exposed once the novelty wears off. Embarassing action that will only give you some rewards against players that have never seen him.

And the fast bowling - why not try Ahmad Daniyal or Ali Raza

And for those “professional” posters. “Ooh undercooked wondercooked before a World Cup”.

You guys do realise that the World Cup is every 2 years. We can’t have every year “oooh don’t risk the World Cup, let’s wait till after” we never see it through. Within 6 months of one World Cup being over it will become “oooh let’s not take a risk, World Cup is just over a year away”!

Same old crappy cycle. Let’s all grow a pair and ask for change. I don’t give a damn about “oooh undercooked undercooked”! Take a risk for a change.

What’s the worst that can happen? A group stage exit? We’re specialists at that anyway.

Hiya 👋 ,

Professional poster here to answer your gripes w/ some professionalism.

So let’s start w/ agreeing on Hasan Nawaz. Should have been picked alongside Samad to form our lower middle order. His continued exclusion wastes all the time spent with on initially developing him.

Sufyan should also feel hard done by, but you can’t drop a guy in Tariq who just took an international hat trick. He’ll probably play all three games in SL and his performances will govern if he should stay or not. Remember, this isn’t the final WC squad.


However, let’s not torpedo the development of the few prospects that we do have (Maaz, Ali Raza) so that we can live a fantasy of being an ‘attacking’ team that likely won’t play that way.

All in the name of ‘growing a pair’.

I don’t want the Babars etc in the team either as it’s clear they’re cooked.

But what is Maaz expected to do if picked?

Reconvert himself into an effective middle order hitter against the world’s best attacks playing on surfaces he’s never played on? Based on his experiences playing in the Hong Kong sixes, in an A team competition playing against OK attacks and struggling against BPL seamers, all whilst playing at opener? I’m not seeing the rationale here other than ‘it’s the Pakistani way to through youngsters into the mix because it worked so well in the 90s’.

And as for Ali Raza, let’s see how he does vs other U19 batsmen in the U19 World Cup, before we annoint him the next saviour.

People forget that we’ve already begun to evolve the side after the 2024 T20 WC, w/ the Riz Babar opening combo now history. After this WC I can see us moving on from a cooked Babar the t20 batsmen too along w/ Fakhar and maybe Agha based on performances. That will open up middle order slots where Maaz will be given a longer run.

What’s the worse that can happen you ask? It’s that we ruin Maaz’s development and directly affect his confidence just because we somehow think he can be our middle order saviour on short notice.

Remember Haider Ali and the fantastic job we’ve done in leaving him a confused mess of a player, especially in light of his promising talent. Given that hindsight is 20-20 it’s easy to dismiss Haider today based on his current performances. But when he was in the u19s, we all anointed him the saviour too, like we’re doing w/ Maaz.

I’d like to not repeat that failure again, thanks.
 
Saim
Farhaan
Agha
Fakhar
Usman Khan
Sarmad
Shadab
Nawaz
Abrar
Mirza
Wasim Jnr
 
Hiya 👋 ,

Professional poster here to answer your gripes w/ some professionalism.

So let’s start w/ agreeing on Hasan Nawaz. Should have been picked alongside Samad to form our lower middle order. His continued exclusion wastes all the time spent with on initially developing him.

Sufyan should also feel hard done by, but you can’t drop a guy in Tariq who just took an international hat trick. He’ll probably play all three games in SL and his performances will govern if he should stay or not. Remember, this isn’t the final WC squad.


However, let’s not torpedo the development of the few prospects that we do have (Maaz, Ali Raza) so that we can live a fantasy of being an ‘attacking’ team that likely won’t play that way.

All in the name of ‘growing a pair’.

I don’t want the Babars etc in the team either as it’s clear they’re cooked.

But what is Maaz expected to do if picked?

Reconvert himself into an effective middle order hitter against the world’s best attacks playing on surfaces he’s never played on? Based on his experiences playing in the Hong Kong sixes, in an A team competition playing against OK attacks and struggling against BPL seamers, all whilst playing at opener? I’m not seeing the rationale here other than ‘it’s the Pakistani way to through youngsters into the mix because it worked so well in the 90s’.

And as for Ali Raza, let’s see how he does vs other U19 batsmen in the U19 World Cup, before we annoint him the next saviour.

People forget that we’ve already begun to evolve the side after the 2024 T20 WC, w/ the Riz Babar opening combo now history. After this WC I can see us moving on from a cooked Babar the t20 batsmen too along w/ Fakhar and maybe Agha based on performances. That will open up middle order slots where Maaz will be given a longer run.

What’s the worse that can happen you ask? It’s that we ruin Maaz’s development and directly affect his confidence just because we somehow think he can be our middle order saviour on short notice.

Remember Haider Ali and the fantastic job we’ve done in leaving him a confused mess of a player, especially in light of his promising talent. Given that hindsight is 20-20 it’s easy to dismiss Haider today based on his current performances. But when he was in the u19s, we all anointed him the saviour too, like we’re doing w/ Maaz.

I’d like to not repeat that failure again, thanks.
So why is Naffy playing when you already have Usman Khan .
 
So why is Naffy playing when you already have Usman Khan

So why is Naffy playing when you already have Usman Khan .

I think they’re not fully convinced by Usman Khan at 5 (he’s a no. three really who’s good at playing spin). They want to try another WK option and someone who can provide some hitting at no. 3.

Shadab will play at no. 5 in this series I think.
 
Is he better than Maaz Maaz definitely no.
Better risk taker than Maaz yes.

Maaz is more of an innings builder (not accumulator), better ODI and Test prospect too.

Nafay is a more dynamic option.

I like both, I don’t mind both.
 
Great but this useless Harris also needs to be discarded
I don’t think so. Harris is your original T20 batter of the modern era. He should be in the side/squad.

You need positive mindset blokes in your set up
 
Better risk taker than Maaz yes.

Maaz is more of an innings builder (not accumulator), better ODI and Test prospect too.

Nafay is a more dynamic option.

I like both, I don’t mind both.
Better risk taker than Maaz yes.

Maaz is more of an innings builder (not accumulator), better ODI and Test prospect too.

Nafay is a more dynamic option.

I like both, I don’t mind both.
But he might not even make the xi it's an easy option so that babar comes back in the xi and I am sure Naffy strike rate is below 135
 
I think they’re not fully convinced by Usman Khan at 5 (he’s a no. three really who’s good at playing spin). They want to try another WK option and someone who can provide some hitting at no. 3.

Shadab will play at no. 5 in this series I think.
He wont bat at 3 cuz that position is set for babar otherwise they would have picked Maaz
 
We can’t play Shadab, Nawaz and abrar all together. I know Shadab does well with the bat in PSL but when it comes to international cricket he just doesn’t output the same as a regular batsman. It makes our batting weaker if he plays at 6. Too many bowling options already. We already have 6 bowling options that can bowl full quota.

In theory it’d be great if Shadab could match Abrar in bowling. As then it’d make our batting stronger as his replacement. But that’s the thing I’m not sure it’s wise to unsettle Abrar this late to the World Cup. And Abrar has done well and deserves his place.

Nawaz is literally our best player these days. No sense for him to be dropped for Shadab.
 
will watch the series as one tuktuk is out of team, hoping samad or nafay replace usman khan so i can enjoy the match. Compared to sa series and tri series i could barely watch the pak batting with agha and babar playing the most balls.
 
This is Pakistan or rather PCB ladies and gents...Pak squad for world cup has already been decided. May be a tease with inclusion of Shadab but I think M. Nawaz and Usman Tariq are already a shoe in.

Pak will stick to the usual and occasionally will bring in a surprise. I think Usman Tariq is the surprise package this world cup.

Other than that, if or rather when Pakistan make a hash (hack) of the world cup campaign, then new blood will be brought in after the usual discards. Salman Ali Agha will be the first casualty and in current form, rightly so.

So, nothing to see here in this squad.
 
This is PCB - expect the unexpected, and with high blood pressure, keep enjoying Pakistan cricket.

I hardly ever watch any league with an exception of some live PSL. Maaz is playing in BPL, let him develop there for now. So far, he has played 2 innings, failed in one, did good in the other. BD pitches are THE worst in the region. It will be a good experience for him.

Abbas Afridi's persistent absence in the squad is perplexing. He is completely off the radar. His SR of almost 11 in T20is is among the best (although with a smaller sample). Average is about 8.5 that needs a little improvement. A very good prospect. (Iss nay pakka PCB walon kee bhains churaai hay)

As far as Shadab is concerned, I wanna see him bat in the upper/middle order as a pinch hitter. If he improved his bowling, that will benefit the team. I have nothing against him. He was very expensive prior to his injury treatment, but has been doing OK in BB.

I am hoping Nafay and Usman BOTH get selected for a few games. I don't care we lose the game(s) for this experiment. Let's see who can handle the pressure better. Ideally, I would like them to follow each other in the batting order.

From the 16, hopefully for the first game:

Farhan
Fakhar
Saim
Shadab
Agha
Nafay
Usman
Nawaz
S Mirza
Naseem
Abrar

Faheem will have to sit out.
 
No team adds a new player nvm new players so close to a WC. In the WC experience is more important than new flair, Maaz, Nafay etc may all be exciting prospects but it is unfair to suddenly include them in a WC squad just a month or two prior to the event. To us everyone who is new or not playing is better than the playing ones, when given the chance they flop more often than not, are side-lined, oldies come back and the cycle continues. Maaz has only performed in local setups and the rising stars and flopped in the BPL so far, so I doubt he will be able to do much against the best of all international teams. Let him organically learn and grow.

I think the new players being tried who if perform exceptionally will only be taken as back up to the team that they have been playing for the past few months and settled apart from Shady who is a purana khiladi.
I get the argument about experience being crucial at a World Cup, and in principle that makes sense. But that logic only holds if the “experienced” core is actually performing and showing upward momentum. When the same group has repeatedly underperformed on big stages, experience alone stops being an asset and starts becoming baggage.

History shows that successful teams do integrate new players close to major tournaments not as wholesale changes, but as targeted upgrades. If someone is clearly outperforming incumbents in form, fitness, or skillset, excluding them purely on the basis of timing feels more like fear of disruption than sound planning.

The bigger issue isn’t “new vs old,” it’s accountability. New players often get one or two games, fail, and are labelled flops. Seniors fail repeatedly and are backed endlessly in the name of experience. That double standard is what frustrates fans and keeps the cycle going.

No one is saying throw five rookies into a World Cup XI. But refusing to reward form and hunger even as backups sends the wrong message. If we don’t trust our system to produce players who can step up when needed, then the problem isn’t the timing, it’s the system itself.

Organic growth is important, yes but organic growth also needs opportunity. Otherwise, “wait your turn” just becomes another way of protecting comfort zones.
 
Whilst Muqeem absolutely can feel hard done by, there is no point in including an undercooked Maaz in this WC. He needs to be given the time to further develop before he’s inserted into the team. As he’s shown in the BPL, he needs more reps before being thrust into international cricket, including another full PSL season.
Calling Maaz “undercooked” assumes that development only happens by waiting, not by exposure. If that were the case, half of modern international cricket wouldn’t exist. Players don’t magically become ready after an arbitrary number of PSL or league games they become ready when their skillset, temperament, and form demand a look.

Using a short BPL stint as proof he’s not ready is selective. Plenty of established internationals have struggled in overseas leagues and still walked straight back into national XIs. One tournament, in alien conditions and roles, shouldn’t outweigh sustained domestic performances and age-group success.

The bigger concern is consistency in selection logic. If Maaz needs “another full PSL season” to be considered, then the same standard should apply to everyone, including those currently in the squad who have delivered very little over multiple international cycles. Experience without output isn’t development; it’s stagnation.

No one is arguing that Maaz must start in a World Cup XI. But including him in the squad or as a travelling reserve isn’t reckless, it’s succession planning. World Cups are not just about the present XI, they’re about depth, adaptability, and having players who can step in without panic.

Development doesn’t only happen in domestic leagues. Sometimes, the next step is the international environment and learning alongside the best, not watching from home. If we keep delaying that step, we’ll keep having the same conversation every tournament.
 
Hassan Nawaz is a prime example of how Pakistan cricket chews up and spits out young players.

They take them from zero to hero, and make them think that they are the future. Then with the drop of a hat, they forget like they ever even existed. Any young player would be demoralized after such a. experience.
 
Hassan Nawaz is a prime example of how Pakistan cricket chews up and spits out young players.

They take them from zero to hero, and make them think that they are the future. Then with the drop of a hat, they forget like they ever even existed. Any young player would be demoralized after such a. experience.
Completely agree on Hassan Nawaz’s shoddy treatment.

It’s the one thing that gives me pause when I say that Maaz shouldn’t be picked for the WC. Because there’s no guarentee we’ll get Maaz’s development right post WC.

I actually thought Hassan Nawaz was a good example of constructive player development by the PCB, until they harshly dropped him. They gave him a long run and stayed patient w/ him. So, at the first period difficulty, why torpedo all your own investment and hard work?

It’s the one bit of Hesson’s tenure that’s completely mystified me.

However, as hopeful fans, we are ever optimistic that they’ll get the next ones right (I.e. Maaz et al) .
 
Shadab strikes at 140, which funnily enough is one of the best T20I strike-rates for Pakistan ever. So he is good enough to play even as a batsman. Pakistan fans should take a good long hard look at their T20 team before pointing fingers at Shadab. You need all-round players like him in white-ball. Even if he is off-color with the ball he adds value with the bat and in the field. He has been playing in the BBL since returning from injury and has been performing with both bat and ball.
 
Calling Maaz “undercooked” assumes that development only happens by waiting, not by exposure. If that were the case, half of modern international cricket wouldn’t exist. Players don’t magically become ready after an arbitrary number of PSL or league games they become ready when their skillset, temperament, and form demand a look.

Using a short BPL stint as proof he’s not ready is selective. Plenty of established internationals have struggled in overseas leagues and still walked straight back into national XIs. One tournament, in alien conditions and roles, shouldn’t outweigh sustained domestic performances and age-group success.

The bigger concern is consistency in selection logic. If Maaz needs “another full PSL season” to be considered, then the same standard should apply to everyone, including those currently in the squad who have delivered very little over multiple international cycles. Experience without output isn’t development; it’s stagnation.

No one is arguing that Maaz must start in a World Cup XI. But including him in the squad or as a travelling reserve isn’t reckless, it’s succession planning. World Cups are not just about the present XI, they’re about depth, adaptability, and having players who can step in without panic.

Development doesn’t only happen in domestic leagues. Sometimes, the next step is the international environment and learning alongside the best, not watching from home. If we keep delaying that step, we’ll keep having the same conversation every tournament.
Appreciate the point you’ve made, thus I’ll clarify my view on Maaz.

In a sea of okay batting talent, he’s a clear standout.

So what would his ideal role be given his current performances? He’s probably a direct replacement (or partner) for Saim. However, I think the opening positions are locked down and Fakhar/Usman are first replacements.

He can then probably bat at 3, but again Fakhar/Usman already cover that position and Nafay will probably be given a go there now.

The captain will play at no.4.

This leaves no.5 and no.6 as the most probable positions he can slot in. Now, I’m happy to be corrected but in the recent past has he batted at these positions? How’s his game vs Spin later in the innings? Is there any indication vs any level of opposition recently which shows that he could be a success there, playing Vs the world’s best bowlers? Had Maaz had even 6 months more of franchise experience and performances, I would not so strongly object to his inclusion. But he just hasn’t shown anything to put him in that position.

Ideally you want to put young players in a position to succeed and putting him at no.5 or no.6 only puts him in a position to fail.

We are further constrained by the squad size being restricted to 15 players. So adding him would be taking the place of someone like a Hassan Nawaz, who should have been in this squad.

However, I have no issues w/ him being a travelling reserve, as it’s good for young players to experience a tournament setting.
 
Hiya 👋 ,

Professional poster here to answer your gripes w/ some professionalism.

So let’s start w/ agreeing on Hasan Nawaz. Should have been picked alongside Samad to form our lower middle order. His continued exclusion wastes all the time spent with on initially developing him.

Sufyan should also feel hard done by, but you can’t drop a guy in Tariq who just took an international hat trick. He’ll probably play all three games in SL and his performances will govern if he should stay or not. Remember, this isn’t the final WC squad.


However, let’s not torpedo the development of the few prospects that we do have (Maaz, Ali Raza) so that we can live a fantasy of being an ‘attacking’ team that likely won’t play that way.

All in the name of ‘growing a pair’.

I don’t want the Babars etc in the team either as it’s clear they’re cooked.

But what is Maaz expected to do if picked?

Reconvert himself into an effective middle order hitter against the world’s best attacks playing on surfaces he’s never played on? Based on his experiences playing in the Hong Kong sixes, in an A team competition playing against OK attacks and struggling against BPL seamers, all whilst playing at opener? I’m not seeing the rationale here other than ‘it’s the Pakistani way to through youngsters into the mix because it worked so well in the 90s’.

And as for Ali Raza, let’s see how he does vs other U19 batsmen in the U19 World Cup, before we annoint him the next saviour.

People forget that we’ve already begun to evolve the side after the 2024 T20 WC, w/ the Riz Babar opening combo now history. After this WC I can see us moving on from a cooked Babar the t20 batsmen too along w/ Fakhar and maybe Agha based on performances. That will open up middle order slots where Maaz will be given a longer run.

What’s the worse that can happen you ask? It’s that we ruin Maaz’s development and directly affect his confidence just because we somehow think he can be our middle order saviour on short notice.

Remember Haider Ali and the fantastic job we’ve done in leaving him a confused mess of a player, especially in light of his promising talent. Given that hindsight is 20-20 it’s easy to dismiss Haider today based on his current performances. But when he was in the u19s, we all anointed him the saviour too, like we’re doing w/ Maaz.

I’d like to not repeat that failure again, thanks.
Ok, some fair points.

However, what exactly is the next natural step for someone like Maaz who has been a stellar performer for the Shaheen aka Pakistan A? Is there an intermediary team he can go and prove himself again? And if it’s domestic cricket, who is going to keep an eye on him to ensure he doesn’t get lost in the system that a lot of players do?

All your points have a lot of merit if our pathways and domestic structure also had some merit. You seem to live in an alternate reality that our domestic structure has some sort of pathway to make our promising players better. All I see coming out of our players toiling away in domestic are boring tuk tuk accumulators for batsmen, medium pace trundlers for fast bowlers and spinners who can’t turn a door knob - we need industrial fans and rank turners to try and make them useful on the international stage.

The only excitement we ever get is from the young guns - for me anyway, it’s like “oh damn, some of these young guns can actually hit the ball, damn some of these fast bowlers actually have some pace and some of these spinners have some skill”.

I only see that from our u19 and Shaheen players. I never see anything like it from the players that graduate from the domestics. We were fed some high praise for Mir Hamza only to see a medium pace trundler, we were given a lot of glorious reviews about Saud Shakeel and although he’s done som e sort of job in tests, he remains the same old darpok accumulator that we have plenty of.

So with all of that in mind, I am more than willing to risk Ali Raza, Maaz and any others’ futures to get them away from that. Yes I know that flies in the face of “the professional way”, but I’ve seen enough.

And Sri Lanka are a fairly weak team, we’re not throwing them to the wolves here. It’s just a bilateral against SL who we’ve just hammered. For me it’s a perfect opportunity to take a risk and try these younger players. If they fail, it’s good experience and if they succeed, onwards and upwards (with some careful management)

And moreover, as another poster said, why are you not livid that Nafay has been selected? Your response was that we don’t have a set position for a keeper. Ok, do we have set openers or even top 4 apart from Farhan? Saim is up n down, Babar is babar, Agha has been unconvincing, same with Fakhar.
Are we convinced about our fast bowling - I certainly am not. Embarrassing trundlers.
 
Nawaz Agha Shadab, the dilemma how fit all three, could be like
Farhan
Saim
Fakhar
Agha
Usman
Shadab
Nawaz
 
Shadab is major parchi, Sufiyan muqeem is way better than him.
Even though I am hopeful for his post-surgery performance, but his bowling has seen a clear dip in recent times.

Emerging as potential premium spinner and then investing more in batting to be called as an all-rounder.
 
On what basis has Nafay been selected for the Pakistan team?

If I remember correctly, the lad was collecting ducks for the Shaheens on the Top End tour and didn’t feature in the latest Asia Cup tournament aswell.

Has he been selected on the basis of a few sixes he hit in Hong Kong or Abu Dhabi T10?

How does Maaz Sadaqat find himself not selected still, and Hassan Nawaz dropped after one or two games where he was played as a slogger?
 
I know Shadab does well with the bat in PSL but when it comes to international cricket he just doesn’t output the same as a regular batsman. It makes our batting weaker if he plays at 6. Too many bowling options already. We already have 6 bowling options that can bowl full quota.

Spot on regarding his batting credentials. The standard of cricket when comparing the PSL with World T20 cricket is literally night and day.

Shadab looks gold in the PSL but when he's up against first string bowling attacks in a WT20 side, he would get badly exposed.

If Shadab is going to play, he has to be Pakistan's best right arm wrist spinner in the shortest format, otherwise it's best to opt for Abrar. It's just unfortunate that Abrar's batting is terrible.
 
It doesnt matter about Nafay being selected. It's a red herring. He will get at best 1 game if it's a dead rubber.

This close to the World Cup, the management is not going to experiment unless Fakhar has a niggle.

Saim
Farhan
Fakhar
Agha
Usman
Shadab
Nawaz
Faheem
Wasim/ Naseem
Mirza
Abrar

Locked in.

The only player who realistically has a chance to push Babar out of the World Cup squad/ team is Shadab. If he fails, Babar will slot back in.

I doubt they'll bring in Nafay or Samad at this stage.
 
Appreciate the point you’ve made, thus I’ll clarify my view on Maaz.

In a sea of okay batting talent, he’s a clear standout.

So what would his ideal role be given his current performances? He’s probably a direct replacement (or partner) for Saim. However, I think the opening positions are locked down and Fakhar/Usman are first replacements.

He can then probably bat at 3, but again Fakhar/Usman already cover that position and Nafay will probably be given a go there now.

The captain will play at no.4.

This leaves no.5 and no.6 as the most probable positions he can slot in. Now, I’m happy to be corrected but in the recent past has he batted at these positions? How’s his game vs Spin later in the innings? Is there any indication vs any level of opposition recently which shows that he could be a success there, playing Vs the world’s best bowlers? Had Maaz had even 6 months more of franchise experience and performances, I would not so strongly object to his inclusion. But he just hasn’t shown anything to put him in that position.

Ideally you want to put young players in a position to succeed and putting him at no.5 or no.6 only puts him in a position to fail.

We are further constrained by the squad size being restricted to 15 players. So adding him would be taking the place of someone like a Hassan Nawaz, who should have been in this squad.

However, I have no issues w/ him being a travelling reserve, as it’s good for young players to experience a tournament setting.
I appreciate the detailed breakdown, and valid points on the batting order rigidity. However, I think there are a few tactical contradictions in that assessment, particularly regarding squad depth and the definition of a 'role' in modern T20.

You mention that adding Maaz denies a spot to Hassan Nawaz. But isn't Hassan primarily a top-order Powerplay aggressor as well?
If the argument is that 'the top order is locked and we need a middle-order specialist,' then Hassan Nawaz is also the wrong pick.

If we are forced to pick a top-order bat as a backup in the 15 (which is essentially what that squad spot is), I would take Maaz’s superior technique over Hassan’s raw hitting every time.

We are looking at positions #5 and #6 too rigidly. In T20, it's about entry points, not just the number on the shirt.

If we are cruising at 140/3 in the 16th over, sure, Maaz isn't the guy to walk out and slog. You send a hitter.

But if we are 40/3 in the Powerplay (a very real possibility against top-tier bowling), sending a 'finisher' or a slogger is a recipe for disaster. That is exactly the situation where Maaz at #5 becomes a match-winner. He has the gears to consolidate and then accelerate. You need a technician in the middle order for collapses, not just hitters.

I agree that throwing a kid to the wolves is bad. But is it safer to rely on players who have already reached their ceiling (and often failed to deliver in crunch moments), or to back a 'standout talent' who might surprise us?

Regarding his game vs. Spin: Maaz’s compact technique suggests he’s actually better equipped to rotate strike in the middle overs than someone like Hassan, who relies more on boundaries.

If Maaz is truly a 'standout' in a sea of average, you don't leave him in the reserves. You put him in the 15 as the premium backup. If Saim or Fakhar get injured or have a horror run, do we really want to look at the bench and see a slogger, or do we want the guy with the highest ceiling in the country?
 
People complaining about Maaz Sadaqat, his route should be PSL than national team.
Faisal Akram being dropped is really unfair.

Shadab is garbage, move on from him
 
People complaining about Maaz Sadaqat, his route should be PSL than national team.
Faisal Akram being dropped is really unfair.

Shadab is garbage, move on from him
Let see how post injury Shadab responds. If he is still serving pies, he definitely has no place. BUT, it is PCB we are dealing with. THE utterer garbage king of T20s has been selected despite failure after failure. I will take Shadab over the UTTER garbage king of T20s any day.
 
People complaining about Maaz Sadaqat, his route should be PSL than national team.
Faisal Akram being dropped is really unfair.

Shadab is garbage, move on from him
fasial Akram has he played psl ?
 
If shadab performs in this series I think writing is on the wall for salman agha as a world cup captain Mike Henson and shadabs Islamabad connection agha needs to score big and win the series or he's history anything is possible with pcb they are led by bunch of clowns.
 
There never seems to be any reasoning or logic to any Pakistan squad selection. Players get dropped, sorry "rested", while others play every single game out of fear that they ever get rested they'll never be seen again, then there are others who fail constantly but are never too far from being recalled on very limited performances. There's some good young players out there who are performing well but won't get a chance for ages and when they finally do, it's just a couple of games and gone again.
 
Sydney Thunder congratulate Shadab Khan for being selected in Sri Lanka series squad

Sydney Thunder General Manager Trent Copeland said:

“Shadab has been outstanding for us this season and we’re excited to see him earn another opportunity with Pakistan. Representing your country is always a huge honour. We wish him all the best and look forward to welcoming him back for the most important part of our season.”
 
The squad for the world cup is already locked in, and there will be zero surprises. I hoped against hope they would give a chance to Maaz in this series but it was always unlikely given Babar, Fakhar and Salman will play regardless of form or performance.

Repeating myself for the umpteenth time, keeping is the most specialized job in the game and you just CANNOT give the gloves to someone just because they can hit the ball. No amount of runs with the bat are worth missed chances behind the wicket. Usman and Nafay are both makeshift keepers and the latter isn't even a great batting option.

I hope Samad comes off as we desperately need a lower order hitter and Hasan Nawaz and Samad seem to be the only two plausible options.

Also missing is Abbas Afridi, but haven't seen him playing domestic so not sure about his status.
 
Ok, some fair points.

However, what exactly is the next natural step for someone like Maaz who has been a stellar performer for the Shaheen aka Pakistan A? Is there an intermediary team he can go and prove himself again? And if it’s domestic cricket, who is going to keep an eye on him to ensure he doesn’t get lost in the system that a lot of players do?

All your points have a lot of merit if our pathways and domestic structure also had some merit. You seem to live in an alternate reality that our domestic structure has some sort of pathway to make our promising players better. All I see coming out of our players toiling away in domestic are boring tuk tuk accumulators for batsmen, medium pace trundlers for fast bowlers and spinners who can’t turn a door knob - we need industrial fans and rank turners to try and make them useful on the international stage.

The only excitement we ever get is from the young guns - for me anyway, it’s like “oh damn, some of these young guns can actually hit the ball, damn some of these fast bowlers actually have some pace and some of these spinners have some skill”.

I only see that from our u19 and Shaheen players. I never see anything like it from the players that graduate from the domestics. We were fed some high praise for Mir Hamza only to see a medium pace trundler, we were given a lot of glorious reviews about Saud Shakeel and although he’s done som e sort of job in tests, he remains the same old darpok accumulator that we have plenty of.

So with all of that in mind, I am more than willing to risk Ali Raza, Maaz and any others’ futures to get them away from that. Yes I know that flies in the face of “the professional way”, but I’ve seen enough.

And Sri Lanka are a fairly weak team, we’re not throwing them to the wolves here. It’s just a bilateral against SL who we’ve just hammered. For me it’s a perfect opportunity to take a risk and try these younger players. If they fail, it’s good experience and if they succeed, onwards and upwards (with some careful management)

And moreover, as another poster said, why are you not livid that Nafay has been selected? Your response was that we don’t have a set position for a keeper. Ok, do we have set openers or even top 4 apart from Farhan? Saim is up n down, Babar is babar, Agha has been unconvincing, same with Fakhar.
Are we convinced about our fast bowling - I certainly am not. Embarrassing trundlers.

I take your point on the standard of domestic cricket and agree w/ your assessment of it, to an extent.

To address your wider point, there’s 3 ways to bridge the gap between high level international cricket and ‘other’ cricket:

1) Let them develop their skills, match awareness, conditioning etc in domestic cricket;
2) Give them early debuts in the first team and develop them there;
3) Have a regular Shaheens programme that develops promising players by playing other A teams regularly.

On 1) I agree that our domestic cricket has failed to develop impactful batsmen, especially in the middle order. The only gauge of ability we have, is via the PSL and even there there’s a gap to the highest level of international cricket. So 1) doesn’t help.

You’ve suggested 2), and this has certainly worked in previous years. I’d argue that we previously had enough match winners in each era that a young player just needed to come in and be functional, allowing them to grow and develop in the team, as the senior match winners took the main responsibility of the team (e.g. Mo Amir’s early performances in that ‘09 T20 WC). This current team has none of those dependable performing seniors, and the expectation is on the youngster to be the saviour, rather than a cog in the overall machine.

I also want a bit more evidence of Maaz vs quality spin and the current sample size doesn’t show anything to suggest he’ll be impactful in the middle order (happy to be corrected on this!)

In 3), I have been encouraged by the more active Shaheens schedule in the last year. I’ve also heard encouraging things from Mohsin Naqvi regarding the Shaheens, especially the recently stated bit below:


“For the past year, especially since Aqib Javed joined, our focus has been heavily on Shaheens and Under-19 cricket. A four-month Under-19 camp was held in Multan, attended by all senior players attached to the setup.”

“The local coaches spent significant time training the players. While they are not fully ready yet, God willing, within one or two years these players will be fully trained.”

“Our aim is to build two equally strong teams — the national team and the Shaheens — so that whenever required, either side can represent Pakistan with strength.”


“We identified major gaps in player development, but the current training process will deliver strong results within a year.”

“Our goal is to make the National Cricket Academy the best in the region. The design work is complete, and within a month, work at the NCA will begin. We will not only address shortcomings but introduce advanced facilities.”


Based on this, I believe that the PCB is (maybe) finally wising up on creating those development pathways via Shaheens cricket. We’ve also been really busy in playing a lot of first team games Vs lesser opposition in these last few months. Thus I believe that post WC we’ll see these younger lions like Maaz given a real go both via continued Shaheens tours and in less important first team series as well, except that in those circumstances, we’ll be coming in as a normal debutant rather than a ‘Hail Mary’ for our World Cup hopes.

In conclusion, I fully respect WHY you want Maaz to be tried, as the current lot have been found wanting. I also get your cynicism about him being added post WC, as Pakistani selections are a lottery. But I’m encouraged by A team and U19 developments since Aquib took over and I want to be optimistic about our future.
 
I appreciate the detailed breakdown, and valid points on the batting order rigidity. However, I think there are a few tactical contradictions in that assessment, particularly regarding squad depth and the definition of a 'role' in modern T20.

You mention that adding Maaz denies a spot to Hassan Nawaz. But isn't Hassan primarily a top-order Powerplay aggressor as well?
If the argument is that 'the top order is locked and we need a middle-order specialist,' then Hassan Nawaz is also the wrong pick.

If we are forced to pick a top-order bat as a backup in the 15 (which is essentially what that squad spot is), I would take Maaz’s superior technique over Hassan’s raw hitting every time.

We are looking at positions #5 and #6 too rigidly. In T20, it's about entry points, not just the number on the shirt.

If we are cruising at 140/3 in the 16th over, sure, Maaz isn't the guy to walk out and slog. You send a hitter.

But if we are 40/3 in the Powerplay (a very real possibility against top-tier bowling), sending a 'finisher' or a slogger is a recipe for disaster. That is exactly the situation where Maaz at #5 becomes a match-winner. He has the gears to consolidate and then accelerate. You need a technician in the middle order for collapses, not just hitters.

I agree that throwing a kid to the wolves is bad. But is it safer to rely on players who have already reached their ceiling (and often failed to deliver in crunch moments), or to back a 'standout talent' who might surprise us?

Regarding his game vs. Spin: Maaz’s compact technique suggests he’s actually better equipped to rotate strike in the middle overs than someone like Hassan, who relies more on boundaries.

If Maaz is truly a 'standout' in a sea of average, you don't leave him in the reserves. You put him in the 15 as the premium backup. If Saim or Fakhar get injured or have a horror run, do we really want to look at the bench and see a slogger, or do we want the guy with the highest ceiling in the country?
Look, what you’ve stated is good analysis, however there’s a few relevant factors which affect the above,

Maaz doing the role you’ve stated is valid, but it’s under the backdrop of being ready for the WC vs the highest level of opposition. That’s a lot of pressure on a debutant, so barely had less than 6 months of franchise cricket.

As regards the comparisons w/ Hassan Nawaz, Hassan was given enough experience in the middle order role to somewhat understand the assignment. We’d be giving Maaz 6 (!) T20s before the WC to learn and perform in a highly consequential batting role, three of them Vs a very competent Aussie side.

Player development needs patience, and given how we’ve treated Hassan Nawaz, I’m wary that we’ll do the same to Maaz.

In closing, I want to accept the contradiction in my argument I.e. that I want Maaz to be introduced post WC because of how Hasan Nawaz was treated, but that Maaz could be treated like Hasan post WC too anyway.

However, I’m hoping that the PCB will be more patient in the post WC period, when pressure, fan attention and scrutiny are lower than during the WC.
 
Happy to see that pak lost some dead weight. Bobsie please focus on tests. A misfiring BBL campaign will do you more harm than good.
 
Dont see us winning this worldcup, it will take an Agha special if that happens. They are already near his throat with knives with the damad back in the team. The dream of Hesson and co. is for Agha to be done so that damad can take over the reigns of captaincy. After all, for players like Babar and Shadab its their God given right to walk in the team whenever they want. To hell with players like Sufyan toiling in domestics.
 
Pakistan’s ODI squad for the Sri Lanka series throws up a few surprising selections. The biggest question mark is Shadab Khan. On current form picking both Shadab and Mohammad Nawaz feels unnecessary, especially when Nawaz has clearly performed so well in recent times. If the management wanted an additional spin option Sufiyan Muqeem would have been a more form-based and forward-looking choice.
Khawaja Nafay inclusion is another surprise particularly when Maaz Sadaqat has been in stronger recent form and delivered consistently under pressure. Naseem Shah’s selection also feels not deserving considering his recent rhythm and workload management while Ahmed Daniyal looked ready for a chance after an impressive Emerging Asia Cup.
The wicketkeeping slot with Usman Khan may be debatable but since the team management is backing him, he can be given the benefit of doubt.
 
I take your point on the standard of domestic cricket and agree w/ your assessment of it, to an extent.

To address your wider point, there’s 3 ways to bridge the gap between high level international cricket and ‘other’ cricket:

1) Let them develop their skills, match awareness, conditioning etc in domestic cricket;
2) Give them early debuts in the first team and develop them there;
3) Have a regular Shaheens programme that develops promising players by playing other A teams regularly.

On 1) I agree that our domestic cricket has failed to develop impactful batsmen, especially in the middle order. The only gauge of ability we have, is via the PSL and even there there’s a gap to the highest level of international cricket. So 1) doesn’t help.

You’ve suggested 2), and this has certainly worked in previous years. I’d argue that we previously had enough match winners in each era that a young player just needed to come in and be functional, allowing them to grow and develop in the team, as the senior match winners took the main responsibility of the team (e.g. Mo Amir’s early performances in that ‘09 T20 WC). This current team has none of those dependable performing seniors, and the expectation is on the youngster to be the saviour, rather than a cog in the overall machine.

I also want a bit more evidence of Maaz vs quality spin and the current sample size doesn’t show anything to suggest he’ll be impactful in the middle order (happy to be corrected on this!)

In 3), I have been encouraged by the more active Shaheens schedule in the last year. I’ve also heard encouraging things from Mohsin Naqvi regarding the Shaheens, especially the recently stated bit below:


“For the past year, especially since Aqib Javed joined, our focus has been heavily on Shaheens and Under-19 cricket. A four-month Under-19 camp was held in Multan, attended by all senior players attached to the setup.”

“The local coaches spent significant time training the players. While they are not fully ready yet, God willing, within one or two years these players will be fully trained.”

“Our aim is to build two equally strong teams — the national team and the Shaheens — so that whenever required, either side can represent Pakistan with strength.”

“We identified major gaps in player development, but the current training process will deliver strong results within a year.”


“Our goal is to make the National Cricket Academy the best in the region. The design work is complete, and within a month, work at the NCA will begin. We will not only address shortcomings but introduce advanced facilities.”


Based on this, I believe that the PCB is (maybe) finally wising up on creating those development pathways via Shaheens cricket. We’ve also been really busy in playing a lot of first team games Vs lesser opposition in these last few months. Thus I believe that post WC we’ll see these younger lions like Maaz given a real go both via continued Shaheens tours and in less important first team series as well, except that in those circumstances, we’ll be coming in as a normal debutant rather than a ‘Hail Mary’ for our World Cup hopes.

In conclusion, I fully respect WHY you want Maaz to be tried, as the current lot have been found wanting. I also get your cynicism about him being added post WC, as Pakistani selections are a lottery. But I’m encouraged by A team and U19 developments since Aquib took over and I want to be optimistic about our future.
Good points again. However, let me pick out one point:

“Our aim is to build two equally strong teams — the national team and the Shaheens — so that whenever required, either side can represent Pakistan with strength.”

If we take this statement at face value, then the logical next step for Maaz is to be tried at National Team level especially as we are missing some players in the BBL.

And never underestimate an unknown quantity aka Wild Card in world tournaments. And by that I don’t mean randoms, I mean certain X Factors that the opposition know very little about.

Inzi - 1992
Abdul Razzaq - 1999
Amir - 2009
Fakhar 2017
Haris - 2022

You can also apply that to ‘out of the box’ tactics: eg Jaya and Kalu 1996
 
Look, what you’ve stated is good analysis, however there’s a few relevant factors which affect the above,

Maaz doing the role you’ve stated is valid, but it’s under the backdrop of being ready for the WC vs the highest level of opposition. That’s a lot of pressure on a debutant, so barely had less than 6 months of franchise cricket.

As regards the comparisons w/ Hassan Nawaz, Hassan was given enough experience in the middle order role to somewhat understand the assignment. We’d be giving Maaz 6 (!) T20s before the WC to learn and perform in a highly consequential batting role, three of them Vs a very competent Aussie side.

Player development needs patience, and given how we’ve treated Hassan Nawaz, I’m wary that we’ll do the same to Maaz.

In closing, I want to accept the contradiction in my argument I.e. that I want Maaz to be introduced post WC because of how Hasan Nawaz was treated, but that Maaz could be treated like Hasan post WC too anyway.

However, I’m hoping that the PCB will be more patient in the post WC period, when pressure, fan attention and scrutiny are lower than during the WC.
While I appreciate the honesty regarding the contradiction in your argument, I disagree that the post-WC period is 'lower pressure.' Usually, after a major tournament, is when the PCB is at it's most volatile as coaching staff changes, captaincy shifts, and 'clean-up' operations are the norm.

Maaz might actually find more stability debuting now under a set leadership group than in the chaotic rebuilding phase that inevitably follows a World Cup. If he’s good enough, he’s old enough.

Giving him the Aus series actually gives him a 'license to fail' before the big stage. If he holds his own against the competent Aussies, he walks into that World Cup feeling ten feet tall. That kind of confidence is worth more than a year of 'protected' development.

If we wait, we aren't just protecting him; we are potentially leaving a hole in our WC lineup that could be the difference between a semi-final and an early exit. If he has the talent, the best time to blood him is when the stakes are clear and the current management is still fully invested in his success.
 
Good points again. However, let me pick out one point:

“Our aim is to build two equally strong teams — the national team and the Shaheens — so that whenever required, either side can represent Pakistan with strength.”

If we take this statement at face value, then the logical next step for Maaz is to be tried at National Team level especially as we are missing some players in the BBL.

And never underestimate an unknown quantity aka Wild Card in world tournaments. And by that I don’t mean randoms, I mean certain X Factors that the opposition know very little about.

Inzi - 1992
Abdul Razzaq - 1999
Amir - 2009
Fakhar 2017
Haris - 2022

You can also apply that to ‘out of the box’ tactics: eg Jaya and Kalu 1996
@Deewana Mastana

This may be me being reactive (I’ve just read about Babar and Saim’s respective opening innings in the BBL/BPL) but I’m conceding the point. Our existing squad just doesn’t have any ballast in it at all! Maybe we should have picked Maaz.
 
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@Dewaana Mastana

This may be me being reactive (I’ve just read about Babar and Saim’s respective opening innings in the BBL/BPL) but I’m conceding the point. Our existing squad just doesn’t have any ballast in it at all! Maybe we should have picked Maaz.
An in form Saim can take apart a batting line up and pick up a few wickets.

An in form Babar can play anchor and needs another player to win the match.

You can't bracket the two of them together.
 
An in form Saim can take apart a batting line up and pick up a few wickets.

An in form Babar can play anchor and needs another player to win the match.

You can't bracket the two of them together.
I know, I’m just being reactive and was slightly alarmed by Saim’s innings. Better for him to work on it now than at the WC
 
@topspin @shaz619

Seems like this guy hates people who criticise Babar and then he parrots the same views that we have when it’s convenient for him.

Beware of this bloke.

He's one of those veiled RizBar supporters like khyberlion (ex-PakEngFan).

#KingofPakFraud
 
Naa im pretty sure you will just expose yourself like they all do eventually.
I don’t post on here to impress some weirdo w/ a borderline weird fixation w/ Rizwan and Babar. I do so because I actually want Pakistan cricket to do well, rather than somehow making it about my own ego.

I’ll continue to assess performances and squad selections objectively, without any agenda.

An example of this? A pretty entrenched yet respectful debate I had w/ @TheSultan about Maaz Sadaqat’s non selection for the Sri Lanka series. I’d disagreed w/ him on other issues previously. Ultimately, he made sensible points and I conceded the point to him, that yes, Maaz probably should have been selected for the squad. Constructive exchanges.

Talking about exposing yourself, You on the other hand posted in the Damien Martyn coma thread and made it about Babar, a thread about a human being fighting for his life. That’s what you did. And that’s the level of conversation you bring to the table.
 
I don’t post on here to impress some weirdo w/ a borderline weird fixation w/ Rizwan and Babar. I do so because I actually want Pakistan cricket to do well, rather than somehow making it about my own ego.
Good. Do what you want. Stay in your lane. Cross others and pay the price. Is that clear?
 
Talking about exposing yourself, You on the other hand posted in the Damien Martyn coma thread and made it about Babar, a thread about a human being fighting for his life. That’s what you did. And that’s the level of conversation you bring to the table
I’ll do exactly how I want.

I’ll do it again. What are you gonna do about it? Cry??
 
The price you pay is the pointless disgracing of yourself. You ought to pick enemies that you can handle instead of those you can’t.

You’re a smart man. Choose your fights carefully.
We will make sure the rats are smoked out.
Disgracing myself by responding to a head case who posts a hundred times a day about two players who don’t even know he exists? You’re right though, I should be terrified of one who derives his self worth from being some sort of guardian of the anti RizBabar argument. Tragic.

Also, who’s ‘we’, are there others who waste as much time as you?

For the more sane, less unhinged posters here, happy to be more than transparent about all PAK cricket leanings. #KingOfPakFraud
 
He should have been allowed to finish his stint in BBL.
I think they’re eager to see how Shadab does at 5 in the middle order. As you’re already aware, the nose 4,5 and 6 batting combinations just lack that chemistry right now. Especially w/ the lack of games before the Feb WC games.

However, I also see the merit in your point, as Shadab could also do w/ those high level reps, in all three reps.
 
I think they’re eager to see how Shadab does at 5 in the middle order. As you’re already aware, the nose 4,5 and 6 batting combinations just lack that chemistry right now. Especially w/ the lack of games before the Feb WC games.

However, I also see the merit in your point, as Shadab could also do w/ those high level reps, in all three reps.
He is a bowler, if he doesnt play as bowler, he shouldn't play. His bowling lacks spin and is too easy to hit.
 
Disgracing myself by responding to a head case who posts a hundred times a day about two players who don’t even know he exists
Right, so I’m a head case posting about it on a platform designed for it….

But if I do it on a platform where they are directly being contacted through me (basically harrasment), I’m not a head case?

How does that work? Why are you so annoyed? You plan on marrying him?
 
He is a bowler, if he doesnt play as bowler, he shouldn't play. His bowling lacks spin and is too easy to hit.
So, Jarrod Kimber did this bit of TikTok analysis on Shadab, saying that he was noticeably bringing more swivel into his action Vs immediately per injury, thereby generating more rotations.

I think Shadab was a classic case of someone who was overbowled into the ground, and I feel that those groin and shoulder injuries were more fatigue based than actual impact injuries. Given those injuries is why I think his accuracy got so bad by the end.

Which is why, given the enforced test that he’s had, inshAllah I’m hopeful that he gets those recs back in his bowling. I’m less informed about bowling mechanics, so happy to be corrected on this.

As regards his batting, stats wise he’s one of the few spin bashers we have in our set up not named Hassan Nawaz. He’s also played for a few seasons now in the middle order for ISLU, whereas otherwise we’ve had to retrofit openers there. It’s not an experiment I hate, and I suppose they could go back to previous set up if Shadab doesn’t work in the middle order.
 
Right, so I’m a head case posting about it on a platform designed for it….

But if I do it on a platform where they are directly being contacted through me (basically harrasment), I’m not a head case?

How does that work? Why are you so annoyed? You plan on marrying him?
You post about them on here a hundred times a day, butt into conversations that don’t involve you and then tag me in “Beware of him” posts where you make up nonsense about what my views are supposed to be on them. Will not tolerate my views being misrepresented, especially by the likes of you.

I will engage in and even encourage respectful disagreement, but will always clap back at nonsense.
 
So, Jarrod Kimber did this bit of TikTok analysis on Shadab, saying that he was noticeably bringing more swivel into his action Vs immediately per injury, thereby generating more rotations.

I think Shadab was a classic case of someone who was overbowled into the ground, and I feel that those groin and shoulder injuries were more fatigue based than actual impact injuries. Given those injuries is why I think his accuracy got so bad by the end.

Which is why, given the enforced test that he’s had, inshAllah I’m hopeful that he gets those recs back in his bowling. I’m less informed about bowling mechanics, so happy to be corrected on this.

As regards his batting, stats wise he’s one of the few spin bashers we have in our set up not named Hassan Nawaz. He’s also played for a few seasons now in the middle order for ISLU, whereas otherwise we’ve had to retrofit openers there. It’s not an experiment I hate, and I suppose they could go back to previous set up if Shadab doesn’t work in the middle order.
I sent images to him through a friend about his poor release. He claimed his issues were related to his knee, I don't they are. He releases the ball from under his hand and not from the side.
 
So, Jarrod Kimber did this bit of TikTok analysis on Shadab, saying that he was noticeably bringing more swivel into his action Vs immediately per injury, thereby generating more rotations.

I think Shadab was a classic case of someone who was overbowled into the ground, and I feel that those groin and shoulder injuries were more fatigue based than actual impact injuries. Given those injuries is why I think his accuracy got so bad by the end.

Which is why, given the enforced test that he’s had, inshAllah I’m hopeful that he gets those recs back in his bowling. I’m less informed about bowling mechanics, so happy to be corrected on this.

As regards his batting, stats wise he’s one of the few spin bashers we have in our set up not named Hassan Nawaz. He’s also played for a few seasons now in the middle order for ISLU, whereas otherwise we’ve had to retrofit openers there. It’s not an experiment I hate, and I suppose they could go back to previous set up if Shadab doesn’t work in the middle order.

I think the shoulder injuries were huge for Shadab and we have even seen him change his action to accommodate those shoulder injuries and it badly affected his bowling. In recent years, it just seemed like he couldn't bowl a good googly anymore. The line/length issues to some degrees exist with any leg spinner but that googly used to be a big weapon for him earlier in his career when he was bowling well. Shoulder injuries can be brutal and we have seen Naseem suffer from the same fate as Shadab. I truly hope surgery has fixed his shoulder injuries.

Based on some of the recent BBL clips, we are starting to see some resemblance of the same googly he once had. If he is truly healthy and back to what he used to be, he at least deserves a look to see if he can prove himself and make it to the WC squad. At the end of the day, there is literally no other leg spinning allrounder Pakistan have and if Shadab can be that for you, it's worth giving a look. Only other option they barely have for him is Saad Masood and he has been MIA since emerging Asia Cup.

Worst case Shadab gets a look, does poorly and you know for sure he won't be on the WC squad. But the upside is you get a true difference maker who nearly won player of tournament in 22' WC and if he is back to that level, you at least need to give it a chance.
 
There's no merit in his selection , Agha and Nawaz are ahead in the pecking order, this qarchi can only leech a place by snatching the spot of specialist spinner, where Abrar & Utariq are already in healthy competition, not to mention the ferocity with which Muqeem is sidelined
 
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