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"Shadab Khan was bowling very well but just not taking wickets": Babar Azam

I would still have Shadab in the team as a second spinner instead of Nawaz. Abrar would be my main spinner with Iftiqar chipping in with 4-5 overs every game. It’s too late to make wholesale changes in the team now. We must stick with these guys fortunately or unfortunately. On the captaincy, we unfortunately will have to stick with Babar though Babar really doesn’t have in him to win a World Cup or big tournaments.
 
Shahid Afridi not too happy with Shadab:

“This is an age-old problem. India are playing in Asia Cup, I've seen changes in almost every game in their team. They've rested seniors, played juniors, it shows that they are preparing for the World Cup. These decisions are very important, you select a 15-member squad because the players are bench are as good as those in XI. You shouldn't have a problem with resting the first-choice players,”

“If Shadab is rested, Osama Mir is there. He has performed well for Pakistan in the past. If someone isn't performing in quite some matches, you should rest him. I'm not saying that drop him from the 15-member squad, you can keep him in the team and still rest him. Let him have sessions with head coach and bowling coach. I don't know what are our plans, really,”
 
Hassan A said:
Did Shadab Khan underperform in this tournament

"Yes, Shadab Khan was bowling very well but just not taking wickets which is why you may feel that he was not bowling well; He is our best bowler, as is Mohammad Nawaz."
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Mohammad Hafeez on Shadab Khan:

"The performance of the spinners was very disappointing and they couldn't bowl well. Shadab Khan could not perform well and his performances are affected due to playing T20 leagues,"
 
The Shadab we saw throughout the ASIA CUP was getting tonked all around the park by Indian and SL batsmen, don't know which Shadab did Babar saw. Babar needs to get out of his bubble and stop this non-sense all the time support of continuously failing players. They'll be big fools if Shadab get on the plane to India for the WC after his recent performances.
 
Galla said:
What do you expect guys?He cant publicly say that shadad was crap but i feel that there would definitely be some questions being asked internally about his position.Also i feel that due to this performance Babars power will get curtailed a bit and the coaches will take over from him as he has been given too much authority in recent times.
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Then why give him the full overs? Shadab is not Int standard. He can go and play T5 leauges.
 
Shadab's bowling is a huge concern. His batting and fielding is not enough to make a place in the team. A team needs atleast 4 proper bowlers and having 5 is best. Shadab is playing as a 4th bowler in the team. If he has to play as a 5th bowler, we need to play 4 proper bowlers and make the tail longer.
The concept of part timers is to make for the 5th bowler. Top 4 bowlers are expected to bowl their quota on most of the days.
World Cup in India can help teams with loads of part time spinners but there will be flat pitches as well so team making into semis will have strong bowling attacks.
 
Let's be real here. Shadab has been a part timer with the ball for a while. The selectors should have been proactive regarding his bowling form ages ago. He has been very average with the ball from the PSL onwards
 
I blame Misbha, Rameez, Waqar and Eshan for this disaster called Babar Azam as a captain of Pakistan team. This is the fact and now we have wasted nearly 4 years on Babar Azam to learn captaincy. International cricket is not a training center and above 4 are the main reason why now our circket team is at this point.

It was Misbha, Eshan Mani and Waqar who lobbied to kick out Sarfarz Ahmed from the team and than we have still not recovered from there because Rameez yes kicked out Waqar and Misbha but did not change Babar Azam.

Babar Azam is not captain but it is a no brain fart who just follow's routine and does not understand the games situation do's and don't.

We are the same point when Azhar Ali was made a forced Pakistan team captain.

When this disaster upcoming world cup we will be over remember was the only one said that Azhar Ali will be the biggest failure but i see Babar overcoming that recorrd in World cup as a failure as he is the confused personality as a captaincy.


There will be a new Captain but after the world and it will not be Shahdab, Sarfarz or Shaheen.
 
Buffet said:
Shadab's Bowling avg against,

Ind/SA/NZ/Eng/SL - 39

Afg/Nepal/Hong Kong/Zim/BD - 21

Makes his career avg 32.

Career avg of 32 may not be bad, but career avg of 32 only due to performing against the likes of Nepal, Hong Kong, Zim, BD etc is bad.

If Pakistan is looking to compete against Nepal, Zim etc then he is a good player otherwise he is averaging near 40 against decent teams. Surely, any team will struggle if spin bowler is going to average near 40. He is neither a bowler or batsman based on what I have seen. Pace unit is good, but spin unit is non-existent.
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THIS.

Unfortunately most of our current players are like this. Their performance against the minnows mask their humiliation against all the top 4-5 sides.
 
He didn't bowl at his best in the Asia Cup and everyone knows it including Shadab himself. He needs to step up his bowling if he wants to hold his place in the team because this is his main job.
 
When he was not taking any wicket so how come he was bowling so well?

Now Babar is defending Shadab now for no reason and trying to save him from the exclusion of the worldcup squad with lame justifications.
 
Rana said:
It will invite a lot of bad press. They don’t need that running into the World Cup
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They must cope with that. Can't afford to be softies. This move will also send a clear message to non performers. Players need to come out of their comfort zones.
 
Ahmed216 said:
They must cope with that. Can't afford to be softies. This move will also send a clear message to non performers. Players need to come out of their comfort zones.
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I guess it would be fair if they are going to drop Fakhar
 
Rana said:
Reports that he is getting dropped for the WC squad

That would be crazy
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There are more reports saying that there will be minimum changes in Asia cup squad.. I dont think thats possible that Shadab will be dropped.. some reports are claiming that he mighy lose his vice captaincy though.. While I do think even this wont happen, but I dont see any chance of him getting dropped.. at all…. new vice captain is still possible though..
 
I think Abrar might take Usama Mir’s place who will go to reserves…or if not Usama, then Nawaz… No way, Shadab is getting dropped..
 
Misbah-ul-Haq on Shadab Khan:

"Our spin department couldn't perform well, but that doesn't mean players lack something; however, they can improvise. Don't press the panic button on one bad performance; this was the same Shadab Khan who performed well in the past,"
 
MenInG said:
Misbah-ul-Haq on Shadab Khan:

"Our spin department couldn't perform well, but that doesn't mean players lack something; however, they can improvise. Don't press the panic button on one bad performance; this was the same Shadab Khan who performed well in the past,"
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Someone should remind the former skipper it wasn't just one bad performance. He was equally miserable in all the 3 matches against Ind & Sri.
 
Aamir Sohail on Shadab Khan:

“Shadab has performed well for Pakistan and should not be replaced in haste [just before the World Cup],”

“If he could not bowl well in the Asia Cup [or before that], the root cause of the dip in form be looked into and he should be guided by the support staff accordingly.

“To me, Shadab is gripping the ball very tightly which is locking his wrist and as a result he is not getting the spin and delivering [unintentional] full-pitched balls,”
 
MenInG said:
Misbah-ul-Haq on Shadab Khan:

"Our spin department couldn't perform well, but that doesn't mean players lack something; however, they can improvise. Don't press the panic button on one bad performance; this was the same Shadab Khan who performed well in the past,"
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Can't take Misbah seriously. His understanding of the game is marred by his pathetic defensive mentality
 
MenInG said:
Aamir Sohail on Shadab Khan:

“Shadab has performed well for Pakistan and should not be replaced in haste [just before the World Cup],”

“If he could not bowl well in the Asia Cup [or before that], the root cause of the dip in form be looked into and he should be guided by the support staff accordingly.

“To me, Shadab is gripping the ball very tightly which is locking his wrist and as a result he is not getting the spin and delivering [unintentional] full-pitched balls,”
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Amir Sohail as usual still stuck in the 90s and looking for a fight
 
Its time for shahdab to focus on red ball cricket especially at first class level. this is the only way for him to learn wicket taking techniques. Since 2020 he has not played test cricket and probably not participated in domestic first-class tournaments. Now he is more focused on batting but to be allrounder he has a lot to do. in my opinion he does not deserve place in world cup squad. Abrar Ahmed is right person for spinning department. He can be surprising package for other teams. In terms of all rounder he have options such as Iftikhar Ahmad and Hassan Ali can also smack the ball out of the park.
 
MenInG said:
Misbah-ul-Haq on Shadab Khan:

"Our spin department couldn't perform well, but that doesn't mean players lack something; however, they can improvise. Don't press the panic button on one bad performance; this was the same Shadab Khan who performed well in the past,"
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MenInG said:
Aamir Sohail on Shadab Khan:

“Shadab has performed well for Pakistan and should not be replaced in haste [just before the World Cup],”

“If he could not bowl well in the Asia Cup [or before that], the root cause of the dip in form be looked into and he should be guided by the support staff accordingly.

“To me, Shadab is gripping the ball very tightly which is locking his wrist and as a result he is not getting the spin and delivering [unintentional] full-pitched balls,”
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What good performances in the past are Misbah and Sohail referring to ? Let's review Shadab's bowling performances since the 2019 World Cup.

Bowling avg - 40.70
ER - 5.56

Now let's remove Nepal and West Indies who aren't participating in the 2023 World Cup.

Bowling avg - 56.33
ER - 5.87.

How's that one bad performance ? If anything he's been lucky to hold his place for so long.
 
If he wasn't taking wickets and still being economical then you could say he's doing a decent job.

But he's not taking wickets and he's being smashed around.

He's bowling at least one or two poor balls per over.

He's lucky that he's the current vice-captain.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Its time for shahdab to focus on red ball cricket especially at first class level. this is the only way for him to learn wicket taking techniques. Since 2020 he has not played test cricket and probably not participated in domestic first-class tournaments. Now he is more focused on batting but to be allrounder he has a lot to do. in my opinion he does not deserve place in world cup squad. Abrar Ahmed is right person for spinning department. He can be surprising package for other teams. In terms of all rounder he have options such as Iftikhar Ahmad and Hassan Ali can also smack the ball out of the park.
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It's Time for shadab to focus on commentary. He does a fantastic job on zoom, I'm sure they'll welcome him with open arms.

Shadab thinks he's an allround super star when in reality even he knows deep down that he is a paka safarish. This is the man who drops rashid khan from his franchise cricket team just so rashid doesn't outshine him
 
Babar defending his spinners again in his presser:

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Q: Can you comment on the performances of spinners?

BA: There has been a lot of criticism on the spinners. They have had a few bad days but they are not ordinary players. It is not easy to play for the Pakistan team—they have gotten here on the back of their performances. I have full faith in them.
 
Ravi Shastri speaking about Pakistan's spin issues:
“Their [Pakistan] spin quality compared to your era has dipped big time"

Harbhajan Singh said:
“Of course. They used to have Saqlain Mushtaq, Saeed Ajmal, and Shahid Afridi. They were big spinners. Shadab looks really good, but recently he is not bowling at his best. He is not looking to take those wickets. He is rather happy going for fifty and sixty runs and no wickets. When you have a mindset like that, as a spinner, you will not win games for your team. I believe their spin is not as strong as it used to be,” .
 
I can also bowl very well but just can't take wickets and get tonked for 4's and 6's can i also play for pakistan? Or do i need to be friends with babar.
 
Shadab "The specialist fielder" should be removed after this World Cup. The only positive outcome for Pakistan after the World Cup loss will be the removal of both Babar and Shadab from leadership positions.
 
Only pros for Shadab today was his attacking field placements.

His bowling has gone downhill, he will play the first game of the WC, luckily for us it’ll be against Netherlands. If he’s ineffective against them, he has to be dropped for Mir.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Only pros for Shadab today was his attacking field placements.

His bowling has gone downhill, he will play the first game of the WC, luckily for us it’ll be against Netherlands. If he’s ineffective against them, he has to be dropped for Mir.
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Babar will drop Shadab after losing the India game.
 
Would be shocked if he is picked for the 1st game against Netherlands
 
That's a good question and I wholeheartedly back Shadab's ability. He's a wonderful cricketer. You look at his package of bowling, batting, fielding, he's exceptional. If we look at his bowling in isolation, he's just short of a little confidence. He hasn't lost his ability to turn the ball. His googly is still very, very good. He's one performance away from getting that confidence back and making sure that he has a real big influence on this World Cup. So, I'd like that to come tomorrow, but I'm not worried about Shadab because I know he's a quality, quality cricketer. said Arthur on Thursday during ICC world cup press conference.
 
Zampa and Adil Rashid have worst E/R than Shadab in last 20-21 months against main teams.



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I dont understand if shadab is bowling that much great so how come he is not getting any wickets though.

This over confident mindset of our skipper wont allow Usama Mir to play next game too.
 
Shadab in last 10 ODI's bowling
Wickets taken = 11
Against Nepal = 4
Against Afghanistan = 3
Against other teams = 4
LBW = 2
Clean bowled = 1
Catches = 8

These stats sums up shadab bowling.
 
What do we mortals know about munificent Shadab, only true connosiuers like Junaids recognise his true worth. :viru
 
Unnecessary criticism on Shadab, he has great variety in his bowling , Particularly , his full toss and short pitch deliveries are very dangerous -----------------for his own team . He is a match winner,---------- for the opposition.
 
FearlessRoar said:
That's a good question and I wholeheartedly back Shadab's ability. He's a wonderful cricketer. You look at his package of bowling, batting, fielding, he's exceptional. If we look at his bowling in isolation, he's just short of a little confidence. He hasn't lost his ability to turn the ball. His googly is still very, very good. He's one performance away from getting that confidence back and making sure that he has a real big influence on this World Cup. So, I'd like that to come tomorrow, but I'm not worried about Shadab because I know he's a quality, quality cricketer. said Arthur on Thursday during ICC world cup press conference.
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He hasn't performed with both bat and ball for ages ago.
 
moghul said:
Unnecessary criticism on Shadab, he has great variety in his bowling , Particularly , his full toss and short pitch deliveries are very dangerous -----------------for his own team . He is a match winner,---------- for the opposition.
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He is certainly not in the best of forms with the ball and lately he hasn't played an substantial innings with the bat too. We may see him get replaced soon with Usama Mir.
 
You take the current Pakistan team and add Sheddy over Usama Mir, does it look better or worse?
 
Shadab was doing ok in t20 cricket because he has some batting skills that could have helped Pakistan. Usama has done nothing and he will lose his spot soon.
 
Shahab's been bowling well this PSL as per his figures.
Haven't seen much of him this tournament unfortunately - has he been doing anything different? Is he spinning the ball? Or is it mainly just poor batting?
Most importantly - based on his performance in the PSL thus far, does he deserve a place in the T20 WC?
 
Ali T said:
Shahab's been bowling well this PSL as per his figures.
Haven't seen much of him this tournament unfortunately - has he been doing anything different? Is he spinning the ball? Or is it mainly just poor batting?
Most importantly - based on his performance in the PSL thus far, does he deserve a place in the T20 WC?
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He is as useless on the international level as Azam Khan. :ROFLMAO:
 
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