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Shahid Afridi confirms availability for HBL in the One Day Cup final

kingusama92 said:
Zohaib Khan is the all-rounder who will be replaced (most likely).

His performances:

2/45
1/49
0/38, 29*
1/44, 13
15, 3/32
11, 1/40
6*

Afridi on the other hand last played OD cricket (50 overs) in June. :murali
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That was a one-off. Not played since the conclusion of the World Cup I think.
 
miandadrules said:
How many games has he played anywhere in the world during the HBL campaign? A number please with dates.

How many 50 over games has he played?

What 50 over form has he shown that would justify his selection and also validate your football analogy?

Are you saying section across formats is of no relevance?

How many games did he play in the Royal London Cup?

Why are you not answering these questions, yet you claim I am moving the goal posts?
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None.

None recently.

None.
 
miandadrules said:
How many games has he played anywhere in the world during the HBL campaign? A number please with dates.

How many 50 over games has he played?

What 50 over form has he shown that would justify his selection and also validate your football analogy?

Are you saying section across formats is of no relevance?

How many games did he play in the Royal London Cup?

Why are you not answering these questions, yet you claim I am moving the goal posts?
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1 - he has not played any as he took part in the BPL and likely needed a few weeks off after it finished.

2 - he played one 50 over game in the royal London cup.

3 - he has not played recently so cannot comment on his 50 over form.

4 - At domestic level, personally I dont think format matters. We have seen the likes of Shafiq play T20 during tournaments which shows that format is not a big deal when it comes to club level cricket.

5 - 1 game at the royal London cup.

Now I would like to say that all this is largely irrelevant. Afridi despite not playing 50 overs in a while, should still prove to be a class above the rest.

I am confident that he will be on the victorious side tomorrow with a solid performance, which will explain exactly why he is selected.
 
Boom boom legend said:
1 - he has not played any as he took part in the BPL and likely needed a few weeks off after it finished.

2 - he played one 50 over game in the royal London cup.

3 - he has not played recently so cannot comment on his 50 over form.

4 - At domestic level, personally I dont think format matters. We have seen the likes of Shafiq play T20 during tournaments which shows that format is not a big deal when it comes to club level cricket.

5 - 1 game at the royal London cup.

Now I would like to say that all this is largely irrelevant. Afridi despite not playing 50 overs in a while, should still prove to be a class above the rest.

I am confident that he will be on the victorious side tomorrow with a solid performance, which will explain exactly why he is selected.
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How many games has he played anywhere in the world during the HBL campaign? I'll give you a clue, it's a NUMBER!

So, how does your football analogy hold true if he has no 50-over form to speak off?

Playing a T20 domestic game and playing a final are very different. Has Shafiq played a T20 final without playing a game for two years?

So he played one game in the Royal London Cup, but you seem to suggest in an earlier post he had played regularly. Why were you being disingenuous?

What was his performance in the only 50 over game he played in two years?
 
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miandadrules said:
That was a one-off. Not played since the conclusion of the World Cup I think.
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That's crazy.

I'm shocked Zohaib Khan or anyone else will have to make way for a player who hasn't participated in the format for over a year.

Embarrassing.
 
miandadrules said:
How many games has he played anywhere in the world during the HBL campaign? I'll give you a clue, it's a NUMBER!

So, how does your football analogy hold true if he has no 50-over form to speak off?

Playing a T20 domestic game and playing a final are very different. Has Shafiq played a T20 final without playing a game for two years?

So he played one game in the Royal London Cup, but you seem to suggest in an earlier post he had played regularly. Why were you being disingenuous?

What was his performance in the only 50 over game he played in two years?
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Your just going round in circles now. He has played regularly albeit not for HBL. Just watch tomorrow and you will see why he is playing.

When a player is still good enough to get into our international team, you can only imagine what he will do to domestic level players.
 
Boom boom legend said:
Your just going round in circles now. He has played regularly albeit not for HBL. Just watch tomorrow and you will see why he is playing.

When a player is still good enough to get into our international team, you can only imagine what he will do to domestic level players.
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How many matches? Why can't you give me a number?

Still good enough to get in to the national team? Please, have some self-respect.
 
miandadrules said:
How many matches? Why can't you give me a number?

Still good enough to get in to the national team? Please, have some self-respect.
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I have mentioned it so many times now, but you do not not seem to understand. I said he has played regular cricket this year. I also said during the HBL campaign this year he has been unavailable as he has just finished the BPL campaign and probably needed a rest. Dont see what is so hard to understand.

And yes if Nawaz currently gets into our national team then Afridi is certainly good enough. Much prefer Afridi even now than Nawaz who bats like a tailender and bowls like a part timer.
 
world cup captain said:
The board has already said Afridi isn't in their plan anymore. Therefore, it's over for Afridi in the international circuit.



He may score a 20 ball hundred and get 10 wickets in 10 balls. But that doesn't mean he should come in to play just the finals.

Guys, you have to see how this isn't morally correct.
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Have you been following the team that Afridi is gonna join since game 1? I haven't been watching them but if there was an under-performer in the team, then it wouldn't hurt benching him for Afridi now would it?
 
Boom boom legend said:
I have mentioned it so many times now, but you do not not seem to understand. I said he has played regular cricket this year. I also said during the HBL campaign this year he has been unavailable as he has just finished the BPL campaign and probably needed a rest. Dont see what is so hard to understand.

And yes if Nawaz currently gets into our national team then Afridi is certainly good enough. Much prefer Afridi even now than Nawaz who bats like a tailender and bowls like a part timer.
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Why can't you state a number? How many matches has he played?

How many T20's has he played all year? At least you won't be afraid to state a number now.

What were Afridi stats in he his final matches that he still warrants a place? Why can't you back up what you claim?
 
miandadrules said:
Why can't you state a number? How many matches has he played?

How many T20's has he played all year? At least you won't be afraid to state a number now.

What were Afridi stats in he his final matches that he still warrants a place? Why can't you back up what you claim?
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If you want to prove something, go find the stats yourself. Afridi has played Asia Cup, World T20, T20 Blast, Royal London Cup and BPL this year. So like I said he's played regularly. If you want specific numbers go find them. They have nothing to do with the subject regardless.

Afridi is eligible to play for HBL. He will participate in the final. It's not a big deal. Get over it.
 
ExplicitAI said:
Have you been following the team that Afridi is gonna join since game 1? I haven't been watching them but if there was an under-performer in the team, then it wouldn't hurt benching him for Afridi now would it?
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Well obviously it doesn't hurt the team if Afridi joins unless a performer gets left out. However, all domestic players can have is to win the domestic tournaments. If players like Afridi come along and snatch that opportunity for fun then clearly the domestic players would get hurt.
 
Boom boom legend said:
If you want to prove something, go find the stats yourself. Afridi has played Asia Cup, World T20, T20 Blast, Royal London Cup and BPL this year. So like I said he's played regularly. If you want specific numbers go find them. They have nothing to do with the subject regardless.

Afridi is eligible to play for HBL. He will participate in the final. It's not a big deal. Get over it.
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You're the one making the claims yet you want me to provide proof?

T20 Asia Cup - 4 matches
World T20 - 4 matches
T20 Blast - 12 matches
Royal London Cup - 1 match
BPL - 11 matches

So in 12 months he has played 31 T20s and 1 50 over game. So basically 2.5 T2Os every month?

11 of them in the substandard BPL.

He seems really active.

Pathetic.
 
world cup captain said:
Well obviously it doesn't hurt the team if Afridi joins unless a performer gets left out. However, all domestic players can have is to win the domestic tournaments. If players like Afridi come along and snatch that opportunity for fun then clearly the domestic players would get hurt.
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How would you know if a player was hurt? Some might get hurt, others might not. They may feel happy to have played a contribution in getting their team to the finals and have done their bit.
 
ExplicitAI said:
How would you know if a player was hurt? Some might get hurt, others might not. They may feel happy to have played a contribution in getting their team to the finals and have done their bit.
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I personally don't know anyone who would happily sit out from the final. If by any chance the player is happy to sit out then he doesn't deserve to play for Pakistan.
 
"I am playing domestic one-day after a long time" : Shahid Afridi

Shahid Afridi speaking to the press:

"West Indies should come to Pakistan"

"I will speak to them myself about the security issues"

"I am playing a domestic game after a long time"

"I will be happy when my team wins the final"


Shahryar Khan speaking to the press:

"It's good to see Shahid Afridi playing in a domestic tournament".
 
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we don't wanna see u in domestic final.....where were u during the previous matches....
 
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Hardly an earth shettering performance from him was it........
 
I dont mind him participating in these domestic tournaments if it brings spectators to the grounds
 
miandadrules said:
You're the one making the claims yet you want me to provide proof?

T20 Asia Cup - 4 matches
World T20 - 4 matches
T20 Blast - 12 matches
Royal London Cup - 1 match
BPL - 11 matches

So in 12 months he has played 31 T20s and 1 50 over game. So basically 2.5 T2Os every month?


11 of them in the substandard BPL.

He seems really active.

Pathetic.
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Do u have Afridi phobia? Shahid bhai is a legend, superstar and a very patriotic person. He does not need to play any domestic games to prove himself.

I don't care if he fails to perform in the final, his presence is enough to inspire the team and especially the youngsters. For them its a dream playing with a legend.
 
Markhor said:
Afridi talks about "doing a job" for his team. What job would that be ? The trademark eyes closed mishit down midwicket's throat resulting in his dismissal of 0 (2) ? Only in Pakistan could such a mediocre player be given such a free ride for years.

Here's a man who chewed on a Kookaburra as if it was a portion of his 5-A-Day live on worldwide TV then claimed he was just "smelling the ball."

Here's a man who ran like a coward and walked out on leading his country in the middle of a Test series. Here's a man who uses his favoured journalists to lobby for him and do his dirty work, and leaks team selections to them.

His batting nowadays is no different from the average gulli danda tape ball hack and his fast leg-spinners frighten no batting team other than Kenya, Canada and Tanzania which is more his level these days.

Yet whenever people mentioned these facts to his diehards online they'd reply "but but he's an aggressive lamb eating beast with excellent body language" or such nonsense.

HBL should've used this final to give a youngster an opportunity of playing not even a has-been but a never-was.
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Not the classic Afridi duck today but still a single digit score. 8 off 6 and out stumped.
 
Markhor said:
Not the classic Afridi duck today but still a single digit score. 8 off 6 and out stumped.
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Bro! He is a bowler who can bat. Judge him on his bowling figures. Ashwin is also an allrounder, people are more interested in his bowling than batting.
 
apollo said:
Bro! He is a bowler who can bat. Judge him on his bowling figures. Ashwin is also an allrounder, people are more interested in his bowling than batting.
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Afridi bowling average 50 over game 34.5

Thank you very much for letting us know he sucks even in his primary format.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Afridi bowling average 50 over game 34.5

Thank you very much for letting us know he sucks even in his primary format.
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Averages don't matter much. If everyone judged a player through it than Younis Khan is better than Richards.
Do u remember Afrid's match winning 7/12 against the West Indies which helped us win the match and series in their own backyard, winning overseas and especially outside Asia is no joke. His 6 wickets against Australia in the U.A.E, his heroic bowling in the 1997 finals in Australia and much much more.
 
apollo said:
Averages don't matter much. If everyone judged a player through it than Younis Khan is better than Richards.
Do u remember Afrid's match winning 7/12 against the West Indies which helped us win the match and series in their own backyard, winning overseas and especially outside Asia is no joke. His 6 wickets against Australia in the U.A.E, his heroic bowling in the 1997 finals in Australia and much much more.
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Yeah, average means out of 18 years of his cricket, you can count on one hand wherever he performed.

Now, trust me, even if I put you in the Pakistan team for 18 years, you'll be able to perform that number of times, because the sample is SO LARGE.

Thus, what it means is he's pathetic.

Do you know logic?
 
apollo said:
Averages don't matter much. If everyone judged a player through it than Younis Khan is better than Richards.
Do u remember Afrid's match winning 7/12 against the West Indies which helped us win the match and series in their own backyard, winning overseas and especially outside Asia is no joke. His 6 wickets against Australia in the U.A.E, his heroic bowling in the 1997 finals in Australia and much much more.
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even i will do perform once in a blue moon when given 400 matches....bro be realistic afridi was mediocre at his best..
 
Hawkeye said:
Yeah, average means out of 18 years of his cricket, you can count on one hand wherever he performed.

Now, trust me, even if I put you in the Pakistan team for 18 years, you'll be able to perform that number of times, because the sample is SO LARGE.

Thus, what it means is he's pathetic.

Do you know logic?
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i did say the same to many of my friends that i will outperform him when give chances like him...he was a low iq fella with mediocre performance......curse for our criket.
 
DRsohail said:
even i will do perform once in a blue moon when given 400 matches....bro be realistic afridi was mediocre at his best..
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Tell me how many mediocre players have played 400 games. According to you.... Yes, Akram, Tendulkar, Ponting, Murali were all mediocre.
 
apollo said:
Tell me how many mediocre players have played 400 games. According to you.... Yes, Akram, Tendulkar, Ponting, Murali were all mediocre.
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none only afridi because of our board and we all know how incompetent it is....
 
apollo said:
Tell me how many mediocre players have played 400 games. According to you.... Yes, Akram, Tendulkar, Ponting, Murali were all mediocre.
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Genius stroke, now tell me what are the performances, averages, etc. etc. of those players in 400 matches vs. Afridi?

Guess what.. who is the WORST? Who has the worst average, poorer than tailenders?

Why Ponting, Akram, Murali, Tendulkar have such good performances and averages? Best in the world? And why one 400-matches rubbish does not?

Do you know why there's this single anomaly?
 
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Hawkeye said:
Genius stroke, now tell me what are the performances, averages, etc. etc. of those players in 400 matches vs. Afridi?

Guess what.. who is the WORST? Who has the worst average, poorer than tailenders?

Why Ponting, Akram, Murali, Tendulkar have such good performances and averages? Best in the world? And why one 400-matches rubbish does not?

Do you know why there's this single anomaly?
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I can give you the answer. Because Afridi is not "selfish" like those other cricketers. He doesnt play for his stats. He is a match-winner. He also has a big heart.
 
Hawkeye said:
Genius stroke, now tell me what are the performances, averages, etc. etc. of those players in 400 matches vs. Afridi?

Guess what.. who is the WORST? Who has the worst average, poorer than tailenders?

Why Ponting, Akram, Murali, Tendulkar have such good performances and averages? Best in the world? And why one 400-matches rubbish does not?

Do you know why there's this single anomaly?
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Please let me know who holds the world record for the most MOTM?

It's one and the only Sahibzada Shahid Khan (The Lion Heart) Afridi!!

None of the greats with 300 plus can match him when it comes to playing for the team.
 
apollo said:
Do u have Afridi phobia? Shahid bhai is a legend, superstar and a very patriotic person. He does not need to play any domestic games to prove himself.

I don't care if he fails to perform in the final, his presence is enough to inspire the team and especially the youngsters. For them its a dream playing with a legend.
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Do you dream of playing with Afridi too?
 
Great performance!

Rubbish bowling display relative to the rest and then an atrocious batting display.
 
Markhor said:
Not the classic Afridi duck today but still a single digit score. 8 off 6 and out stumped.
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But it was a classic Afridi.

He came in with 68 needed of 18.3 overs. He just needed to play sensibly play the percentage shots and take his team home. But he wasn't here to play for his team he was here to make a statement that he can use as leverage to push his way back in to the side.

A 25 off 25 isn't going to do that, but a 40 off 25 would haven that's what he went for, to hell with the team.

So it was a classical Afridi performance. It was for Afridi first and last, the team never came in to it.
 
Boom boom legend said:
Tomorrow when the final takes place, I expect Afridi to lead his team to victory, and then people will realise why he was selected.
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Boom boom legend said:
To answer your first question, although he hasn't played 50 over cricket internationally, he has been involved at domestic level. He took part in the Royal London Cup this year for Hampshire. As long as he is signed up for a team, which in this case is UBL, he has every right to represent when he wants. Also, I am fairly confident Afridi would have been approached by someone at UBL to take part and not just demanded a spot in the team.

Regarding your second question, I am not sure if you follow English football, but during the early rounds of the FA Cup and league cup, teams rest players and give youngsters opportunities. It is not until the latter stages where the main players will start to be selected.
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Boom boom legend said:
You are always changing the goalposts to suit your agenda. Instead of trying to understand the analogy, you are trying to compare the two situations literally, which of course is never going to work.

Afridi has been active this year which means if he is called upon, he is ready perform. You are talking as if 50 overs would be too much for him because he hasnt played much over the past year.
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Boom boom legend said:
1 - he has not played any as he took part in the BPL and likely needed a few weeks off after it finished.

2 - he played one 50 over game in the royal London cup.

3 - he has not played recently so cannot comment on his 50 over form.

4 - At domestic level, personally I dont think format matters. We have seen the likes of Shafiq play T20 during tournaments which shows that format is not a big deal when it comes to club level cricket.

5 - 1 game at the royal London cup.

Now I would like to say that all this is largely irrelevant. Afridi despite not playing 50 overs in a while, should still prove to be a class above the rest.

I am confident that he will be on the victorious side tomorrow with a solid performance, which will explain exactly why he is selected.
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Boom boom legend said:
Your just going round in circles now. He has played regularly albeit not for HBL. Just watch tomorrow and you will see why he is playing.

When a player is still good enough to get into our international team, you can only imagine what he will do to domestic level players.
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Boom boom legend said:
I have mentioned it so many times now, but you do not not seem to understand. I said he has played regular cricket this year. I also said during the HBL campaign this year he has been unavailable as he has just finished the BPL campaign and probably needed a rest. Dont see what is so hard to understand.

And yes if Nawaz currently gets into our national team then Afridi is certainly good enough. Much prefer Afridi even now than Nawaz who bats like a tailender and bowls like a part timer.
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What happened?
 
miandadrules said:
But it was a classic Afridi.

He came in with 68 needed of 18.3 overs. He just needed to play sensibly play the percentage shots and take his team home. But he wasn't here to play for his team he was here to make a statement that he can use as leverage to push his way back in to the side.

A 25 off 25 isn't going to do that, but a 40 off 25 would haven that's what he went for, to hell with the team.

So it was a classical Afridi performance. It was for Afridi first and last, the team never came in to it.
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Indeed. Its one of the biggest myths that many Pakistan fans have swallowed that Afridi's kamikaze brand of eyes closed slogging is him being "selfless".

I can't think of a more selfish cricketer than one who refuse to adapt his game no matter how many times the coach or captain asks, regardless of match context, and repeatedly gifts the opposition his wicket when the situation calls for responsibility.

It isn't because he's a stupid individual - its that he knows his sponsors pay him to be the impulsive, untamed slogger he's marketed as ! Its pure self-interest. He never got all those endorsements and lucrative commercial deals because he's a responsible batsman who pinches the 1s/2s and sensibly rotates strike.
 
miandadrules said:
But it was a classic Afridi.

He came in with 68 needed of 18.3 overs. He just needed to play sensibly play the percentage shots and take his team home. But he wasn't here to play for his team he was here to make a statement that he can use as leverage to push his way back in to the side.

A 25 off 25 isn't going to do that, but a 40 off 25 would haven that's what he went for, to hell with the team.

So it was a classical Afridi performance. It was for Afridi first and last, the team never came in to it.
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In your opinion who has damaged Pakistan Cricket the most, Afridi or Salman Butt ?
 
apollo said:
Yes, I dream that one day I'll be playing with him. I also dream that one day he will join politics and send all the corrupt politicans for six after six.
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That's sweet.

I hope it ends happily.
 
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