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Shahnawaz Dahani Versus Harshal Patel - who will have a better career?

Rajdeep

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One is an IPL star and the other is from PSL.

Both the relatively new to the scene and mostly considered T20 specialist by their respective teams.

Dahani has pace whereas Harshal has variations.

It will be interesting to see where they both stand in 3 years' time.

So, who you think will have a more successful career?

Discuss
 
T20 specialist?

Dahani came to light via Quade Azam. He will play all formats for pakistan.

Lool seriously what have you guys come to? Celebrating the poor outing of Pakistan's 6th choice fast bowler.

Well, I understand. Harshal does that to you.
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It's a shame that we have a thread discussing about this pathetic trundler. I hate watching him bowl and wish he never played for India. He will get tonked for 20-30 runs every over he bowls. I still can't forget his 37 run over in an ipl match. He has been a curse for RCB and now for Team India.
 
Harshal is unpredictable, after two good balls all of suddenly leak the runs.

T20 cricket is not suitable for 125 kph bowlers. Its not like Harshal is bad bowler. Just that in T20 even if u bowl perfect delivery at 125 kph - u can still get whacked easily by a proper T20 batter

Dahani on the other hand has pace but bowls left right and center. No brains
 
Harshal is unpredictable, after two good balls all of suddenly leak the runs.

T20 cricket is not suitable for 125 kph bowlers. Its not like Harshal is bad bowler. Just that in T20 even if u bowl perfect delivery at 125 kph - u can still get whacked easily by a proper T20 batter

Dahani on the other hand has pace but bowls left right and center. No brains
 
It's a shame that we have a thread discussing about this pathetic trundler. I hate watching him bowl and wish he never played for India. He will get tonked for 20-30 runs every over he bowls. I still can't forget his 37 run over in an ipl match. He has been a curse for RCB and now for Team India.

So much hate for a player like Harshal. He will be history after the WC. :91: :inti
 
Harshal Patel's effort ball is 132.
His slower ball is 120.
Where is the variation ?
 
Can’t be patriotic here, Dahani any day over Harshal but good comparison. Not as far of as it looks. Don’t like variation bowlers so pace bias over national bias :akthar
 
Dahani has a solid stock delivery but the problem is good batsmen just move a bit and convert his good delivery into half volleys.

Although, I kinda feel he can be a good odi/test bowler if bowled at right time against right batters.

In T20Is I don't see him setting world on fire.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
 
Dahani has a solid stock delivery but the problem is good batsmen just move a bit and convert his good delivery into half volley.

Although, I kinda feel he can be a good odi/test bowler if bowled at right time against right batters.

In T20Is I don't see him setting world on fire.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

He reminds me of Ishant Sharma as I mentioned yesterday. He might do well in Aus and SA. Pak bowlers usually have pace but don’t have the bounce for those conditons anymore which explains why they don’t do well there compared to England .

I think he is playing the wrong format.

He should play tests and Naseem LOIs.
 
Harshal was never going to have a career as a bowler. If you rank Indian bowler he won't be in the top 25 list. He was picked for one specific role which is to bowl at death. But that skill is fairly predictable. He is a stop gap arrangement.
 
Harshal is one of the worst bowlers coming out of India in recent times.

The real problem with Dahani is that he is getting coaching tips from Wasim & Waqar. Those are two horrible coaches and the sooner he and Naseem block them on whatsapp, the better.
 
Dahani I keep reiterating is Forest Gump of Pakistan.

In the 2nd T20i I saw a side of him that I had witnessed in a PSL match for Multan where he came to bowl after the 10 over break and turned the game on its head.

He is invincible/unstoppable when he is in that zone mentally. Otherwise, he can be ordinary and nothing special.

This guy is as mercurial as Pakistan’s run in ICC tournaments
 
Dahani I keep reiterating is Forest Gump of Pakistan.

In the 2nd T20i I saw a side of him that I had witnessed in a PSL match for Multan where he came to bowl after the 10 over break and turned the game on its head.

He is invincible/unstoppable when he is in that zone mentally. Otherwise, he can be ordinary and nothing special.

This guy is as mercurial as Pakistan’s run in ICC tournaments

He has the skill set and appetite to be an effective Test bowler.
 
Stay in the past because the present and the future is dark. :)
Think about your future or present you have got tons of khusdil,Asif ali,Chahca,massod,Rizwan all these batsman who don't even fit for our Domestic teams and you haven't produced a quality spinner since long for test format and your bowlers start trundling in third session of first day of test match barring Shaheen shah and Rauf all are bang average bowlers, We can replace whole of our batting line up that's how's much batting talent we have got batting prodigy Shubhman Gill, Prithivi shaw,Jaiswal,Devdutt paddikal, Yash dhull, Tripathi, Gaikwad ,Shaik Raseed they all are immensely talented, i agree that Right now we are lacking in good fast bowler right now we have 140+ Bowlers but they are wayward and still learning
But what about you mate your future are dependent of full tullabaz batsman and bowling is also just Shaheen shah afridi .
 
Lmao. What a thread. Dahani will wipe the floor with your Harshals, Arshseeps, koomars and what not. Indian bowling is not even close to Pakistani bowling. Let alone equal. At least two levels lower. Bumrah is in sunset of his career. Your bowling will be bangladesh level after this.

You are quite delusional

Indian selectors are definitely the worse we have see.

5 bowlers who clock 140-145 are not selected - Tyagi porel umran Shami and krishna
Siraj and khan are the leads after bumrah and not selected

The truth is india is at a loss with choices . They almost got the batting right

For World Cup , they thought that bhuvi swing will be an asset . Harshal is a utility player who bowls well at the death . Aussie had three such bowlers today .

India is not struggling with bowling . It’s bad selectors and a poor coach
 
You are quite delusional

Indian selectors are definitely the worse we have see.

5 bowlers who clock 140-145 are not selected - Tyagi porel umran Shami and krishna
Siraj and khan are the leads after bumrah and not selected

The truth is india is at a loss with choices . They almost got the batting right

For World Cup , they thought that bhuvi swing will be an asset . Harshal is a utility player who bowls well at the death . Aussie had three such bowlers today .

India is not struggling with bowling . It’s bad selectors and a poor coach

We all saw how good Shami was in last Wt20 - got pounded into oblivion in all corners. Hes trash. He will get smashed, mark my words, if he plays.

Umran is not even worth playing for Pakistan's E team. Hes a completely raw product.

Dont know about this Krishna guy is. Probably another from the indian pop gun bowling factory.

Tyagi is semi-decent at best, equal to Hasnain.
 
[MENTION=142399]docteurmanish[/MENTION] indian fans like you are delusional. In Asia cup you guys were crying for Harshal, who is now being treated like a wet mop, getting totally taken to the cleaners for the trash trundler he is. Wake up and smell the coffee.
 
Dahani. He's Pakistani.

Although Dahani has much more potential and Harshal is very ordinary but Pakistani bowlers have not been able to achieve longevity since 2000s. Not a single bowler who debuted after 2000s who has even 200 ODI wickets. They all come, impress and fade away.
 
It is like apple and oranges. Dahani is fast bowler, harshal is medium pace. Dahani is new to the circuit, while Harshal has been toiling in the domestic for years. Harshal is probably at his peak, Dahani - ceiling is unknown.
 
Although Dahani has much more potential and Harshal is very ordinary but Pakistani bowlers have not been able to achieve longevity since 2000s. Not a single bowler who debuted after 2000s who has even 200 ODI wickets. They all come, impress and fade away.

There are so many talented bowlers in Pakistan that we just don't have patience with a bowler who loses form or suffers a career dip.

Take the example of Junaid Khan and Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Junaid was easily the better bowler until he got injured. Both of them lost form at the same time but whereas Pakistan were quick to move on with Shaheen, Naseem and Haris; India had no one else to turn to and brought Kumar back.
 
There are so many talented bowlers in Pakistan that we just don't have patience with a bowler who loses form or suffers a career dip.

Take the example of Junaid Khan and Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Junaid was easily the better bowler until he got injured. Both of them lost form at the same time but whereas Pakistan were quick to move on with Shaheen, Naseem and Haris; India had no one else to turn to and brought Kumar back.

Yes so don't say Dahani will have longer career because he is Pakistani. Pakistan will drop him sooner than India will drop Harshal if he performs poorly.
 
Dahani seems like someone who is more bluster than quality.

OP picked the right person to compare him with though.

Anyone is better than Harshal.
 
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We all saw how good Shami was in last Wt20 - got pounded into oblivion in all corners. Hes trash. He will get smashed, mark my words, if he plays.

Umran is not even worth playing for Pakistan's E team. Hes a completely raw product.

Dont know about this Krishna guy is. Probably another from the indian pop gun bowling factory.

Tyagi is semi-decent at best, equal to Hasnain.

Shami has been indias best t20 bowler along with bumrah in t20 / odi last one year . Shami goes for runs but has been a wicket taker .

Krishna has been performing well in odi team . He is 140-145 k , high bounce and good pace . Poor death bowler . Will improve and is ishant sharma replacement with height and pace .

Yes , umran is raw . But there were 15 games to groom him . Dravid does not value aggressive in terms of pace .

Tyagi , porel , basil thampi , saini - all bowl 140-150 clicks , pretty quick . Unfortunately , trundler mentality is prevalent .

Last - mohsin and khaleel besides dayal are three quality left arm pacers . Mohsin is the best of the lot and dayal is pretty good - both tall , hit the deck Bowlers .

Mavi , nagarkotti are again back in the mix too .

India is not short on pace choices . It’s a myth . India does have a problem of not fast tracking genuine pace . Some of them loose their pace grinding in a tours . To get into the team , u needed to be exceptional like bumrah . Now they like trundlers who swing the ball .

Coach dravid and the current bunch of selectors are a joke .
 
Harshal only good at gripping pitches.. he'll be smacked around all other grounds..
 
Dahani is better. Harshal is a club level bowler. Even if he picks up a 5 for it will be because batters will look to smash him and make some mistake... He will never run through sides by good bowling.
 
Silly to compare them imo.

Compare Dahani with some potential all format young fast bowler from India not Harshal patel who is already 31 years old and only seen as t20 specialist.

Harshal patel is featuring in IPL since 2012 but only came in limelight in 2021 through sheer hardwork.
 
Dahani is better....this harshal yesterday tried his mighty best in the last over to award Aussies
 
No comparison.. Dahani is much much better bowler.. Just a day off here and there doesn't make you bad bowler.. He has better height, pace, line and length and aggression as well... Its just his early days
 
Harshal will never play Tests and ODIs. Don't waste much time on him. He will soon fade away.

Dahani also was average, although I saw only a little of him.
 
Harshal is a limited bowler who came into limelight because of one good IPL season. He has gotten a fair chance for India so far on the back of that performance but again he will be dropped soon as we see the emergence of Arshdeep & Umran Malik. I have seen very little of Dahani but again he hasn't played much to form an opinion, domestic or international. Harshal at least is a domestic veteran with 200+ FC wickets.

Dahani is young but knowing Pakistan team management & selectors he will have poor career as seen with most of the bowlers who debuted recently from Pakistan. India always seem to make something out of mediocrity but on the other hand Pakistan have PHD in destroying good talent.
 
Harshal already has a better career, though I would prefer Dahani personally as he seems to be a better bowler.
 
Harshal today started with 139 kph. His pace was more than that of Mavi mostly. But he doesn't have any other skills other than varying pace.
 
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