Shakib Al Hasan fastest to reach Test double of 3500 runs and 150 wickets

[Mainul]

No. 1 test all rounder in the world Shakib Al Hasan of Bangladesh has reached test double of 3500 test runs and 150 test wickets in just 50 test matches,the quickest to achieve this incredible feat. During the first day of first test match against Australia he reached the milestone of 3500 test runs.He has now 177 test wickets and 3563 runs to his credit and he marches on. Congratulations Shakib!

 

[The_Odd_One]

No. 1 test all rounder in the world Shakib Al Hasan of Bangladesh has reached test double of 3500 test runs and 150 test wickets in just 50 test matches,the quickest to achieve this incredible feat. During the first day of first test match against Australia he reached the milestone of 3500 test runs.He has now 177 test wickets and 3563 runs to his credit and he marches on. Congratulations Shakib!

What a gun all-rounder. Considering that he played most of his game for a minnow team makes it even more special.

 

[CricketCartoons]

He should have played 100 matches so far. Shame Bangladesh don't get enough Test matches.

 

[light]

He should have played 100 matches so far. Shame Bangladesh don't get enough Test matches.

Definitely a class player. What's shameful is that BCB is one of the top 5 richest board and yet unable to negotiate with other boards. Hence why he is only playing his 50th test match after 10years or so in international cricket.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Gun allrounder. very underrated in world cricket.
If he was playing for India or Pakistan, he would've played 100 test by now with over 6-7K runs and close to 300 Wickets.

 

[ads101]

So good. Find if funny how some hype up the other bangladeshi rising stars over him. Shakib's consistently been performing year after year, is Bangladesh's best batsman, best bowler, best allrounder.

Think his stats would be even better if he played for a stronger team too. It's nice he has a team these days which will support him, remember the days where Shakib was pretty much the only guy performing, trying to carry a failing team. Things have changed now.

 

[MMHS]

Definitely a class player. What's shameful is that BCB is one of the top 5 richest board and yet unable to negotiate with other boards. Hence why he is only playing his 50th test match after 10years or so in international cricket.

He played 50 in 10 years, last 8 in less than 10 months, could have been 10-11 if PAK series was on; so I guess his next 50'll take lot less time. Test FTP is a 4/5 years calendar, which didn't allow us many matches last time, but going forward there'll be more Tests.

 

[Executioner]

A lot of fans laugh when i say Shakib can be in the league of great all-rounders. He is already breaking a lot of records already

 

[shabir kham]

Definitely a class player. What's shameful is that BCB is one of the top 5 richest board and yet unable to negotiate with other boards. Hence why he is only playing his 50th test match after 10years or so in international cricket.

Actually 12 years

 

[shabir kham]

A lot of fans laugh when i say Shakib can be in the league of great all-rounders. He is already breaking a lot of records already

He is better than ashwin who only bash westindies

 

[Executioner]

He is better than ashwin who only bash westindies

Shakib is a different player compared to Ashwin. Ashwin is a bowling allrounder. Primarily in the team for bowling.

Shakib is a genuine all-rounder who has to perform with both bat and ball. Much more difficult task

 

[Ab Fan]

Won't be wrong to say that Shakib for Bangladesh has turned out to be what Andy Flower was for Zimbabwe.

 

[bujhee kom]

2nd best Asian cricketer after Imran Khan.

 

[Mainul]

These are number of test matches the famous all rounders took to achieve double of 150 test wickets and 3500 test runs:
1.Sir Gary Sobers and Ian Botham: in 63 tests

2. Jack Kallis: 69 tests

3.Andrew Flintoff: 71 tests


4. Ravi Shastri:78 tests

5.Imran Khan: 82 tests

6.Kapil Dev: 85 tests

So you decide where Shakib lies as an all-rounder

 

[Shutdown Corner]

He has only been playing on supportive pitches since 2015...a grand total of 4 home Tests before this one. Had he got pitches like Herath or Ashwin has he would have 225 wickets at under 28 at this stage.

 

[Executioner]

These are number of test matches the famous all rounders took to achieve double of 150 test wickets and 3500 test runs:
1.Sir Gary Sobers and Ian Botham: in 63 tests

2. Jack Kallis: 69 tests

3.Andrew Flintoff: 71 tests


4. Ravi Shastri:78 tests

5.Imran Khan: 82 tests

6.Kapil Dev: 85 tests

So you decide where Shakib lies as an all-rounder

Shakib can put himself in the list of great all-rounders easily. Infact he already deserves to be in the list. The guy is quality.

And among the world class genuine all-rounders he is the only one who is a spinner. Kapil Imran Botham are all pacemen.

 

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He played 50 in 10 years, last 8 in less than 10 months, could have been 10-11 if PAK series was on; so I guess his next 50'll take lot less time. Test FTP is a 4/5 years calendar, which didn't allow us many matches last time, but going forward there'll be more Tests.

That might be true but let's assume his performance takes a nose dive near his retirement. It would suck alot cause the stats won't reflect on the type of player he is atm. Throughout most of his carreer, he has been on top form, had BCB been more proactive, his stats would have been around 300Wicket by now and surely 5-6K runs.

 

[Justcrazy]

He will end up right at top among the all rounders by the time he hangs his boots.

 

[MMHS]

That might be true but let's assume his performance takes a nose dive near his retirement. It would suck alot cause the stats won't reflect on the type of player he is atm. Throughout most of his carreer, he has been on top form, had BCB been more proactive, his stats would have been around 300Wicket by now and surely 5-6K runs.

Even with 50 Tests, by now he would have over 200 wickets in his credit because in first 10 years of career he hardly got the chance to bowl in 2nd innings. Statistically, in those 50 Tests, out of possible 1000 wickets, he has got almost 35% of all the wickets taken by Bowlers, which is exceptional by any standard for a player batting at an average of 41+

 

[Mainul]

If Shakib can play 60 more tests he will be the only spinning all rounder to take test double of 400 wickets and 4000 test runs.Only Kapil Dev have achieved this so far.

 

[Black Zero]

#of tests means nothing. ..following should be considered for proper comparison:
-Quality of opposition
-batting average
-Bowling SR and average

 

[imrankhannsu]

Congrats to Shakib. Rather than acknowledging some sour grapes are trying to find flaws. Get a life

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

#of tests means nothing. ..following should be considered for proper comparison:
-Quality of opposition
-batting average
-Bowling SR and average

He has done well against every team he has faced so far.

Average of 40 and 33 is world class stuff. he is a GREAT all rounder and I donot use the word great lightly.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

A classy player.

A genuine all rounder. Well done!

 

[Proactive_]

He is a legend.

 

[Mainul]

Where are those who says that Shakib is a minnow basher.He has 5 fer against all test playing nations. Only 3 other bowlers have achieved this.

Shakib is going to be a legend of the game when he retires.

 

[Executioner]

^also that he averages 42+ against top 8 teams

 

[Ab Fan]

Shakib issue though has been lack of hundreds compared to those all time great all rounders.

Botham had 14 hundreds over his career. Shakib has just 5 even though he avgs a lot higher than Botham. Stokes already has 6.

Obviously would be wrong to compare him with Botham who is an undisputed ATG.

Would be interesting to hear from [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] , where would he rate Shakib as an all rounder?

 

[Mainul]

Shakib issue though has been lack of hundreds compared to those all time great all rounders.

Botham had 14 hundreds over his career. Shakib has just 5 even though he avgs a lot higher than Botham. Stokes already has 6.

Obviously would be wrong to compare him with Botham who is an undisputed ATG.

Would be interesting to hear from [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] , where would he rate Shakib as an all rounder?

Shakib has got another 53 tests to surplus Botham's 14 hundreds. Botham averaged just above 30 with the bat though.Botham had an average of 28 with the ball which is quite remarkable for an all rounder.Shakib averages 32 with the ball. Still a long way to go for Shakib to catch Sir Botham.Shakib has got all the ingredients to achieve that.If Bangladesh would have played more test matches, Shakib would have got a lot better statistics.

Stokes has to go a long way for being compared with Shakib as an all rounder.

 

[Executioner]

Shakib issue though has been lack of hundreds compared to those all time great all rounders.

Botham had 14 hundreds over his career. Shakib has just 5 even though he avgs a lot higher than Botham. Stokes already has 6.

Obviously would be wrong to compare him with Botham who is an undisputed ATG.

Would be interesting to hear from [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] , where would he rate Shakib as an all rounder?

Shakib has a poor conversion rate when you compare to Botham.

But Botham played 102 matches. Shakib will play around 100 matches too before retirement and it's likely he will score as many as 12-15 hundreds. But Shakib has 22 50s already in his career. Botham had only 22 50s in his entire career of 102 matches. But pitches back then were less batting friendly.

A good way to judge is to see the difference in batting and bowling average. For Botham it's +5 which is remarkable mind you. For Shakib it's +9. In ODIs it's -5 for Botham and +5 for Shakib. No harm in comparing Shakib to Botham.

 

[Ab Fan]

Shakib has a poor conversion rate when you compare to Botham.

But Botham played 102 matches. Shakib will play around 100 matches too before retirement and it's likely he will score as many as 12-15 hundreds. But Shakib has 22 50s already in his career. Botham had only 22 50s in his entire career of 102 matches. But pitches back then were less batting friendly.

A good way to judge is to see the difference in batting and bowling average. For Botham it's +5 which is remarkable mind you. For Shakib it's +9. In ODIs it's -5 for Botham and +5 for Shakib. No harm in comparing Shakib to Botham.

Disagree with last line. Their batting is comparable but there is a gulf of difference in their bowling. Those stats hide lots of things.

 

[Executioner]

Disagree with last line. Their batting is comparable but there is a gulf of difference in their bowling. Those stats hide lots of things.

Shakib's bowling average is 3.5 more in tests and 1 more in ODIs which is fine considering that pitches are flatter these days

 

[ExpressPacer]

And to think some Indian fans compare him with Ashwin. Had Shakib played on the rank turners Ashwin has been offered his entire career (and as many matches), the stats would be even better.

As for his batting, I think there's not many all-rounders in the world today (or even batsmen!) that can match his batting and I say this after a lot of thinking and analyzing his statistics. Shakib Ul Hasan just recently score a double hundred in New Zealand in tricky conditions against the same attack the No.1 Test team (Pakistan) could not stand a chance.

The fact that he is so young despite being there since forever, is mainly famous for Twnety20 leagues and plays for BD has led to a seriously talented cricketer being extremely underrated.

 

[Mainul]

And to think some Indian fans compare him with Ashwin. Had Shakib played on the rank turners Ashwin has been offered his entire career (and as many matches), the stats would be even better.

As for his batting, I think there's not many all-rounders in the world today (or even batsmen!) that can match his batting and I say this after a lot of thinking and analyzing his statistics. Shakib Ul Hasan just recently score a double hundred in New Zealand in tricky conditions against the same attack the No.1 Test team (Pakistan) could not stand a chance.

The fact that he is so young despite being there since forever, is mainly famous for Twnety20 leagues and plays for BD has led to a seriously talented cricketer being extremely underrated.

Shakib is underrated because he is a Bangladeshi.If he was an Indian or Aussie,the performance and stat he has, Shakib would have got the due recognition.

Now as Bangladesh has been playing the game as a team,more and more players are contributing, Shakib's majestic all-round performance will get due respect.

If he is given the chance to play another 60 tests,i am sure he will end up with 400 test wickets and 8000 runs, a test double no all-rounder could achieve this so far.

 

[squarecut]

If Shakib was an Indian, he would not have found a place in the team. He is not good enough to find a place as a number 5 batsman in Indian team, nor is he a better spinner compared to Jadeja and Ashwin. In case he found a place in the team, he would get to bat at number 8 or 9 where he would not so much batting opportunity.

 

[Lefthanded]

If Shakib was an Indian, he would not have found a place in the team. He is not good enough to find a place as a number 5 batsman in Indian team, nor is he a better spinner compared to Jadeja and Ashwin. In case he found a place in the team, he would get to bat at number 8 or 9 where he would not so much batting opportunity.

No one in the world besides Smith/Willamson/Root could get into India’s top 5. While India’s 8 best batsmen could walk into the top 5 or any other team.

So, that’s not a fair frame to look at Shakib.

India’s situation is different as I see it:

India has played 5 batsmen fairly often and Ashwin has batted at 6 or 7 then.

Relatedly, I don’t believe Ashwin is anywhere near a better choice than Shakib to bat at 6 or 7. Heck, if Shakib got to play the format more, he could even bat at 5 for most sides.

Also, India doesn’t need a spinner/all-rounder who can bat in the top 6 and be their second choice spinner, whose job is to bowl anyway.

And as you implied, Shakib doesn’t belong at 8. Moreover, Jadeja is really a specialist spinner who can bat a bit [first class triple century gets brought up but until he scores a test hundred or more, he’s a specialist spinner]. Jadeja may be a better spinner, but he has nowhere near the all-round ability that Shakib brings to a team.

Ashwin and Jadeja are spinners who can bat a bit or quite well, but that’s all India need because of their batting riches and now an emerging batting-seam bowling all-rounder.

Any other country would sprint at the chance of having Shakib at 6 [or at a push 7].

I’m not arguing with you, but wanted to talk about why Shakib wouldn’t get in.

 

[squarecut]

I have no issue admitting that Shakib will walk into most other test sides excluding India.

He is a great allrounder in his own right and one can praise him without feeling the urge to diss others thinking that it would make him look better.

 

[Lefthanded]

Writing the previous made me realise what Shakib would look like in other XIs.

Here's some imaginary line-ups for current top teams in which Shakib could fit.

England: Don't have a proper spinner, and Shakib is good enough to bat at 6 or 7. With three spots still open for the Ashes, a re-jigged order and Shakib would make them a dangerous prospect down under this year. Root at 3, Bairstow, Malan, Stokes, Shakib and Moeen somewhere in 4-8. Then bowling all rounder Woakes or Roland-Jones at 9.

Shakib's spin and batting would make England as formidable as India.

SA: I think they'd love to have Shakib or QDK at 6 or 7, replace Maharaj and have Philander, Steyn, Rabada, Morkel. That's a world beating bowling attack/XI.

Pakistan: Shakib could solve a couple of Pakistan's Test team problems. He could bat at 5 or 6, and replace Yasir as the main spinner because of his own success and the balance he'd give the side. Pakistan could play four seamers without him, or three with an extra batsman or all-rounder.

Australia: Might very well, salivate over the idea of an asian spin bowling all-rounder who can do the job Watson never quite did for them. And Marsh is unlikely to. They're relying on the likes of Agar and Cartwright, who aren't third spinner and fourth seamer all-rounder material.

WI, SL, NZ, are a bit obvious.

Basically, just because of India's cricketing wealth and unique needs, I think Shakib is a fantastic genuine all-rounder who would give any team a real match winner.

 

[Sidilicious]

Will make into all teams bar India, simply because Ashwin and Jandeja are better bowlers. Due to India's batting strength, we need stronger bowlers and bowling ARs like Jadeja and Ashwin.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

India has no need for genuine allrounders, Ashwin and Jadeja are better bowler than Shakib and their batting is just a plus point. Shakib would easily walk into Australia/South Africa/England though.

 

[Justcrazy]

By the time He finishes his carer he will be regarded as among top 5 all rounders ever.