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Shakib Al Hasan to have surgery before Asia Cup [Update Post #122]

If it's on medical ground, indeed right. Also, I don't think it's fair to send him for only 1 Test; because that doesn't give any respite. For him, it's a bit unlucky (I take it on medical ground, otherwise they won't have allowed him), because, he could have been the only all-rounder in history with a 5 for & at least a 50 against every (9) teams - his highest against SAF is 47. This one record might not be repeated ever, if he can't do that.

No medical ground. Akram Khan said it would be selfish for board to think only of themselves and not the player. They allowed it on general ground, which is fair. No reason for them to be at war with their best player who has been exemplary of late.
 
I can't get my head around this,this was a big opportunity for Shakib to play against top bowling side so weird!
 
And yet they are people defending him wanting to avoid this series! if he is medically unfit , injured / seriously ill I get it. But he just wants a rest at the expense of his team being violated and victimised by the south africans in an away series, even if you want to play up the narrative that oh Shakib is a genius in SA conditions got nothing left to prove blah blah.....alrighty then! but what about the TEAM and his COUNTRY ?
He is already a legend, they are going to lose anyway, so why not :haha
 
Its not like BD plays a lot of test, he shouldnt have miss this. they may not play any test after SA test in 6 month. should also think about fans. After such a grear perfotmance he shouldnt let the fans alone.
 
No medical ground. Akram Khan said it would be selfish for board to think only of themselves and not the player. They allowed it on general ground, which is fair. No reason for them to be at war with their best player who has been exemplary of late.

1 series or few matches are fine, but the guy can't ask for 6 months. Also, I do believe, he is suffering from some fitness issues, otherwise Akram won't have let it so easy. Giving him option for 2nd Test, indicates they have left it on his judgement of fitness, rather forcing it. Since LOs are after the Test series, he might reach there early & play one Test, depending on fitness.
 
he didnt realise the hate he will face while sitting on the chair and the team is losing....
 
He is deciding to rest when Bangladesh have a high profile overseas series, this is ther chance to prove they deserve more overseas tests and there best player wants a break? For me I don't agree with this decision, he should have played this series then opted for a rest.

Poor from Sakhib, my respect has gone down for him a lot after this.
 
Why is Jan 01 the magic number?

And picking the same number of tests to equalize, sounds weird?

www.stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...6;spanval2=span;template=results;type=bowling

This doesn't even take into account their IPL or county stints.

The logic for why you can't just take Jan 1 to analyze in THIS case is very simple:

Shakib's spin AR competitors Ashwin and Jaddu bowled a crazy amount of overs in 2016. The effects of that showed on Ashwin who could barely bowl properly in the 2017 Aus series and had to miss out on IPL entire season.

So when looking at workload, we have to consider what they did in a whole cycle as opposed to a specific date.

As Alizeefan posted above, the workload for all ARs have been super high in recent times. Who played more is dependent on the timeline you set but all have played a lot.

I think Shakib is just mentally worn out which is understandable. But as a senior player missing a high profile series, he will cop a lot of criticism. It is the sad reality of life. Too bad for him that he will be heckled for this in a world where some people to this day think SRT intentionally missed the 2013 SA tour to have a farewell home test in Mumbai.

This doesn't make Shakib a coward or anything. He just isn't feeling it. It happens.

I presented facts based on a set criterion (Jan 1st, 2017 - Present Date).

A whole cycle is subjective because cricket seasons don't have a start or conclusion.

If we account for the entire year (Sept 11 2016 - Sept 11 2017), Ashwin and Jadeja have received time off already.

1) Rested For SL ODIs
2) Rested For NZ ODIs
3) Rested For ENG T20Is

So, comparing them to Shakib over the entire year doesn't make sense. :)
 
When the going gets tough.... Sakib doing a runner quite simply. The Bangladeshi fans can sugar coat it all they want, but their so called ATG is running from a tough tour.....

Bangladeshi fans are just busy being too grateful :facepalm:
 
Wow this is so bad, I don't know how someone can defend him. Bangladesh hardly plays any test series and this guy wants to back out of their biggest series yet. Shakib could be a part of history of Bangladesh wins this series especially if he has a good series. Beyond me how someone wouldn't want to be a part of that... And it's not like it's a 5 match test series, it's only 2 tests.

If I were BCB, I'd tell Shakib he can skip any match for the next 5 months except these 2. There is no way your best player should desert you for your biggest series ever.
 
Most likely hes mentally exhausted.

Senior players also dont like Hathurusinghe...might just be to taks a break from having to hear the coach's voice for an extra 3 weeks.
 
I presented facts based on a set criterion (Jan 1st, 2017 - Present Date).

A whole cycle is subjective because cricket seasons don't have a start or conclusion.

If we account for the entire year (Sept 11 2016 - Sept 11 2017), Ashwin and Jadeja have received time off already.

1) Rested For SL ODIs
2) Rested For NZ ODIs
3) Rested For ENG T20Is

So, comparing them to Shakib over the entire year doesn't make sense. :)

The point is that when comparing workload of players, you have to choose a period which sufficiently shows the real picture. A student who starts studying in the morning at 10 am (after studying a lot previous day and waking up late) did not put in lesser work than someone who started studying at 6 am (but didn't study that much the previous day).

As for resting, they were rested for NZ ODI series only. They played in Eng ODI series. Missed out a couple of games in T20s only. SL ODIs was just now. One of them went to county and bowled way more overs in a couple of matches than he would have done in all SL ODI series.
 
Give him some time to rest and chill with his wife and family. It is expected that SA will beat the hell out of us with or without Shakib in an away series.
 
By the way, I am hearing reports he is going to play in LOI/T20 leagues in this period?

Is it true?

He will play in BPL but that's also in the interest of BCB and the fans. However, BCB won't let him play BBL and perhaps he will be forced to skip PSL too.
 
With that attitude why would top 5 countries give BD matches???

Without at least 2/3 best quality test pacers,how can anyone think about winning in SA??? WE still don't have those two pacers. As long as 2 of our pacers don't upgrade to that level we can't say that we can win there. Now the pacers will get experience there and we hope that 2 of our pacer get to that quality mark when we can push for victory in away test
 
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Why not skip BPL but play SA test series?

Because the fatigue is getting the better of him now? Who knows he might skip BPL.

I also heard that he is suffering from fever for a few days. The worry is that the series against SA is just around the corner
 
Without at least 2/3 best quality test pacers,how can anyone think about winning in SA??? WE still don't have those two pacers. As long as 2 of our pacers don't upgrade to that level we can't say that we can win there. Now the pacers will get experience there and we hope that 2 of our pacer get to that quality mark when we can push for victory in away test

So, why not send a 2nd XI to SA then?

This is never happened in history, certainly not when a players has played only 50 tests and not even 200 ODIs.
 
So, why not send a 2nd XI to SA then?

This is never happened in history, certainly not when a players has played only 50 tests and not even 200 ODIs.

Why you are not happy what (whole test team-shakib) we are sending???!!! Just to bash shakib,who just wanted a break first time in his 11 years career???
 
So, why not send a 2nd XI to SA then?

This is never happened in history, certainly not when a players has played only 50 tests and not even 200 ODIs.

On a funny note,we Bangladeshi believe that our 2nd XI will be better than our current test XI as there won't be Somya Sarkar,Sabbir Rahman ,Imrul kayes but mossaddek,saif,nazmul,nafis,anamul,nurul(wk) etc.
 
Why you are not happy what (whole test team-shakib) we are sending???!!! Just to bash shakib,who just wanted a break first time in his 11 years career???

Where did I bash Shakib?

He should take rest from cricket. That's a good thing. But which cricketer takes rest from SA series? Can you expect Kohli, Smith or Root or any other top player asking their board for rest from SA series?

Don't bring workload factor here. I agree workload is high on Shakib even though he has played less matches than most other busy cricketers play in 11 years. If he feels that he needs rest, then he should get it. But no one skips SA series. Cricketers choose some other series to take break. Haven't seen anyone doing this before.
 
Think Shakib knows they are going to get smashed with or without him. Seems like he isn't really bothered with what happens in this series. Haven't seen many good players skip a tour of South Africa. Weird.
 
He will play in BPL but that's also in the interest of BCB and the fans. However, BCB won't let him play BBL and perhaps he will be forced to skip PSL too.

lol and you still defend him
 
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Its simple. Play against SA and then take retirement for all anyone cares. You can always come back from retirement like legend Shahid Afridi.
 
"Test will be the last format I retire from" Shakib Al Hasan

Star Online Report
Bangladesh cricketer Shakib Al Hasan confirms that he harbors no desire to retire from Test cricket at this moment.

In a press conference, the all-rounder laughed off suggestions that he is making a run from Test cricket and said “My target is to retire from Test cricket at the very end after I have retired from T20 and ODIs.”

The main theme of Shakib’s press event was that he needs to take a breather and refresh himself mentally.

The cricketer suggested that he mostly needs the break to relieve some mental pressure and feels it would allow him to play for the next five years without tension.

“I can play If I want to…but what do you guys want? That I play for another five to seven years or one to two years. If I keep playing like this– maybe I won’t be able to play behind one or two years,” Shakib suggested.

“However long I play for…I want to play well and that is my target.”


Asked why he chose Test cricket instead of the shorter formats of the game, Shakib said that he felt he needed a bigger break than usual.

“If you take a break from Test series you get a month off. If you take a break from a T20 series you get three days break and for an ODI series it’s only seven days.

“I needed a bigger break so I opted for the Test format.”

It’s not hard to imagine how much cricket Shakib has played in recent times. The climate in Bangladesh also means that the Tests against Australia have been grueling both on a mental and physical level.

Shakib is a major part of the Tigers’ setup in all three formats of the game – in that measure he plays a lot of cricket annually. One must also remember that Shakib has played a lot of cricket in franchise leagues all over the world – most recently in the Caribbean.

Yesterday night the premium all-rounder addressed fans in a facebook post and presented his case for why he sought a breather from Test cricket.
 
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A very good reply from Shakib to those who are criticizing him unfairly.BCB is behind him thankfully and that's all that really matters. And Bangladeshi fans and media are also backing his decision.
 
I don't see how people are complaining about this. If a Player thinks he needs to mentally recharge himself by taking time off cause it's affecting his capability to perform on the field. regardless of how many matches he/she played, it's a personal decision of the player. Not like you guys are the one going through the training and matches.

Mentally recharge does not just mean not play any matches, it could also mean, spend time with kids and family, hang out with friends you might have not seen them for a while, do activities that you wanted to do. Hell, you get a vacation every year from your job for this sole reason. A player, who plays for 10-11 years straight and does not get a vacation like that to mentally recharge, is due one, regardless of if you play for Bermuda, Nepal or Australia or India.
 
Good. He needs a break, has played a lot on dead wickets, battled a lot alone, took a lot heavy load on his shoulders for long time. Everyone needs a break sometimes.Need shakib fresh for home series, 2018, WC!

He will still play LOI. Only break away from test cricket. So all good.
 
Without at least 2/3 best quality test pacers,how can anyone think about winning in SA??? WE still don't have those two pacers. As long as 2 of our pacers don't upgrade to that level we can't say that we can win there. Now the pacers will get experience there and we hope that 2 of our pacer get to that quality mark when we can push for victory in away test

Mate,in that logic one should just keep waiting to tour,till u come up with those two pacers.
 
BD plays too many tests and sometime big players miss easy test series. SRT missed few WI series. IK sat out of few times. When you play lots of long test series against top sides then you should get break against some not so good teams.
 
BD plays too many tests and sometime big players miss easy test series. SRT missed few WI series. IK sat out of few times. When you play lots of long test series against top sides then you should get break against some not so good teams.

Worst case Shakib can still play as a specialist batsman. Imran did it several times in his career.

I hope he gets the same bashing as AB did who at least played 100 tests and almost 200 ODIs.
 
This guy has prioritized LOI over Test cricket. He says IPL & CPL are like "Holiday" for him (the dadas benched him for the entire campaign). How smilingly he chose to sacrifice Test Cricket in SA at the altar of T20.

Best all-rounder, no way. Ask Broad, Stokes or Kohli who play non-stop intl. cricket & play for the badge/shirt. They didn't ask for a break when BD or Windies or SL came calling, did they?
 
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It's his personal decision,should respect it.

On the other hand,it's a great opportunity for BCB to test new players and combinations for the time when senior 4 players would be retired. Try nazmul,saifuddin,saif,mossaddek and others to make another team ready for future. Hope,like shakib,mushy also keep his gloves off for six months. We could try nurul Hasan instead of him.

In before someone accuses Shakib of being a softy. No one in the cricket world ever had to shoulder as much responsibility as Shakib.

A truely genuine allrounder who plays all 3 formats and is a key player with both bat and ball.

However, I think BCB should man up and have him barred from playing BPL and PSL if needed if really wants to "prolong" his career. However difficult to deal with someone like Shakib.

Oh okay. We already knew why he left with tail between his legs, for the SA series. And now....
 
Bangladesh’s T20I captain Shakib Al Hasan is hopeful of undergoing surgery on a worrisome finger in time for his return to play the 2018 Asia Cup in the UAE next month.

Speaking to reporters on arrival in Dhaka on Thursday, Shakib said: ”We all know that I have to have a surgery. But I feel the earlier it is done, the better, most probably before the Asia Cup. I don’t want to play without being fully fit. If I think that way, it should be done before Asia Cup and that is normal.”

During an ODI series versus Sri Lanka in January, Shakib injured the little finger on his left hand and subsequently missed the Test and T20Is of that series. He returned in March to play the T20 Nidahas Trophy in Sri Lanka after undergoing treatment in Australia, where doctors had advised him to have surgery.

Shakib was Man of the Series in Bangladesh’s 2-1 T20I series victory over West Indies in the Caribbean and Florida last week, but recurring pain in the finger has forced him to decide to undergo surgery soon as Bangladesh look to the 2019 ICC Cricket World Cup.

The Asia Cup runs from September 15-28. Bangladesh are in Pool B with Sri Lanka and Afghanistan.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/...targets-finger-surgery-before-asia-cup-733737
 
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