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Shan Masood now averages 28 after 50 Test innings - worst ever for any Pakistan batsman in history!

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Shan Masood is now behind Imran Farhat, Yasir Hameed, Ramiz Raja, Salman Butt, basically ANYONE you can name in our history from number 1 to 4 position in Tests.

He's the worst-performing top/middle order batsman for Pakistan, in Pakistan's entire history.

He also has the most number of ducks, equaling that record with the likes of Ramiz Raja.

Here are the full stats:

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Can someone tell, who's behind his continuous selection in the team?

Despite these awful statistics?
 
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The top 3 in that list are three of the most eloquent in English in Pakistan cricket history
 
Whoever wants Shan as captain doesn’t understand how short-lived that experiment will turn out to be.

In Pakistan specially, you need to be performing to retain your spot as captain no matter how your team is doing. Babar Azam is the only captaincy material player in our team, the rest will suffer from loss of form and consistency and get torn apart.
 
Ah, Hafeez seems to have the most number of ducks at 8.

Not Shan or Rameez, at 7.

Sorry for the huge mistake! :sree
 
Rana said:
The top 3 in that list are three of the most eloquent in English in Pakistan cricket history
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Yes.

But, nobody better than Shan when it comes to speaking English.

I guess that's why he's now our most sought-after cricketer - even played the World T20.

I should add that minimum criteria was 49/50 Test innings. That's a good sample size.
 
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Hawkeye said:
Yes.

But, nobody better than Shan when it comes to speaking English.

I guess that's why he's now our most sought-after cricketer - even played the World T20.

I should add that minimum criteria was 49/50 Test innings. That's a good sample size.
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Dude, they are chasing him around whenever Pakistan is playing so that he can come and give a nice interview
 
like i have said a millions times, he is the Farhat or Fasial Iqbal of his generation (though even those two arguably had more talent)

proper failure who is always treated as some kind of saviour
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
like i have said a millions times, he is the Farhat or Fasial Iqbal of his generation (though even those two arguably had more talent)

proper failure who is always treated as some kind of saviour
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Farhat and Faisal Iqbal were far superior.

Could play with a proper technique and stance at least.
 
Farhat and butt actually had talent and could play their shots when they first arrived they were very aggressive batsmen and went up against some top bowlers . Butt ruined his career he actually had a good cricketing head

Shan masood is just totally rubbish and stinks of nepotism.
 
He will be picked in the ODI series as well

Just wait and watch
 
Rana said:
The top 3 in that list are three of the most eloquent in English in Pakistan cricket history
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:)) thats what PCB want player to speak a foreign language fluently and have zero cricketing skills.
 
There are numerous clueless posters on here who want this tail end fraud as next test captain :facepalm:

Shan Masood should be inducted into Pakistan "Hall of shame" for his efforts. Along side Hafeez, Azhar Ali and muhammed sami.
 
[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]

"Shan Masood isn't good enough" thread please.
 
Mamoon said:
[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]

"Shan Masood isn't good enough" thread please.
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:)) new symbol of mediocrity in pakistan cricket

Muhammed Sami to Muhammed Hafeez to Azhar Ali to Shan Masood the baton has been passed down.
 
Mamoon said:
[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]

"Shan Masood isn't good enough" thread please.
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I'll make one as soon as you make one about Haris Rauf being a street-bowler or India having the best T20 bowling attack in the world.
 
No, Kamraan Akmal is the worst batsman to play in the history of our cricket.

And don’t say he’s a keeper bat because his keeping was atrocious - he was in the team for his batting.
 
Pathetic shot today. Average county cricketer with 'international' tag that should be no more
 
By now he should have established himself.

However he hasn't done that in any format.

Really poor numbers given the chances he has had.
 
He is from the elite in the society thats why whatever reign or era he is being selected
 
Shan is total crap. Pakistan can play both Rizwan and Sarfaraz instead of him but if Mickey Arthur becomes coach, then Shan plays every single game in every single format until he is 50.
 
Forum363 said:
No, Kamraan Akmal is the worst batsman to play in the history of our cricket.

And don’t say he’s a keeper bat because his keeping was atrocious - he was in the team for his batting.
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Karman Akmal averaged better than Masood and played some extraordinary knocks like Mohali 2005, Karachi 2006
 
sam_ahm said:
Shan is total crap. Pakistan can play both Rizwan and Sarfaraz instead of him but if Mickey Arthur becomes coach, then Shan plays every single game in every single format until he is 50.
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That's my worry as well with Mickey Arthur.

If he becomes the coach again, we're doomed.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Karman Akmal averaged better than Masood and played some extraordinary knocks like Mohali 2005, Karachi 2006
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Kamran Akmal was a top LOI bat.

Played some absolutely clutch knocks - Shan can't even dream of playing like that. :)))

However, he was poor with the gloves and his batting also took a sharp nosedive later.
 
I’ve never seen a player do so bad throughout his entire career in all 3 formats yet still be the top candidate for the captaincy.

Mickey would want someone that kneels to him.
 
Hawkeye said:
Kamran Akmal was a top LOI bat.

Played some absolutely clutch knocks - Shan can't even dream of playing like that. :)))

However, he was poor with the gloves and his batting also took a sharp nosedive later.
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Lol a top odi bat who averages 26.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
I’ve never seen a player do so bad throughout his entire career in all 3 formats yet still be the top candidate for the captaincy.

Mickey would want someone that kneels to him.
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Both Mickey and Shan are associated with Derbyshire.

It's going to be really, REALY bad if Mickey becomes the coach.

:sree
 
Hawkeye said:
Both Mickey and Shan are associated with Derbyshire.

It's going to be really, REALY bad if Mickey becomes the coach.

:sree
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Shan has moved to Yorkshire where he will be captain.
 
Hawkeye said:
I meant from the perspective of technique and range of shots.

He was good in patches, never consistent.
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Kamran akmal had technique that’s news to me. He should have used that technique to produce better number than the ones which a bowling all rounder will not be satisfied with. You call rizwan rubbish etc but he averages more then a top bat in evey single format.
 
Yup. He has been mediocre.

Average of 28 after 50 Test innings is very poor in modern day cricket.
 
Hawkeye said:
Kamran Akmal was a top LOI bat.

Played some absolutely clutch knocks - Shan can't even dream of playing like that. :)))

However, he was poor with the gloves and his batting also took a sharp nosedive later.
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He never was a top limited overs bat

Shan isnt good enough and after another failure in the 2nd innings should be replaced by kamran ghulam
 
Shaan is the nearly guy. He nearly looks good, he is nearly a potential captain and he nearly scores some good runs.
 
Shan cannot complain if he's dropped if he doesn't perform in the 2nd innings. Usman Salahuddin and Kamran Ghulam are waiting in the wings.
 
For those wondering if most of his innings have been outside Asia:

25 innings in UAE/Asia
25 innings outside UAE/Asia
 
he has had a great FC season in county cricket but has a mediocre quaid azam trophy. He is not international cricket material. Pakistan should give chance to hurraira at number 3 , has had two great season with great strike rate and average.
 
Saj said:
Shan has moved to Yorkshire where he will be captain.
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Can he speak "Yorkshire english"? :))

seems like a move based to win back votes after all the racism down the years at yorkshire.
 
The guy is completely awful. The fact that he was looking like Bradman in English county season should tell you just poor the standard of English domestic cricket is.
 
The_KING said:
The guy is completely awful. The fact that he was looking like Bradman in English county season should tell you just poor the standard of English domestic cricket is.
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That was in 2nd division English cricket.
 
And yet, most of the people were pining for his return.

I will say though his dismissals have been a result of himself getting out due to poor shot selection. I am not sure if a player in his 30's can realistically improve his shot selection at this point though.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Karman Akmal averaged better than Masood and played some extraordinary knocks like Mohali 2005, Karachi 2006
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Kami is a household name, Shan could only dream of doing what Kami did with bat in tests ODIs and t20s. #SochaNiBhiManaHai
 
My suggestion is
Rizwan can play instead of shan masood
And sarfaraz as specialist keeper.
 
Hawkeye said:
I meant from the perspective of technique and range of shots.

He was good in patches, never consistent.
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Technique LOL?? Did you ever watch him bat. He would lean on his bat as the bowler was running in and all his shots were flat footed hoicks.

He played hundreds of games and was lucky to fluke a few innings. He had the batting ability of Rana Naved or Hassan Ali, but imagine if they were given hundreds of games uninterrupted, mainly in the top order.

Shan has at least done well in domestic cricket and done brilliantly in county cricket, not to mention he had multiple counties fighting for him as a captain.

Kamraan was a joke of a cricketer and isn’t fit to tie Shan’s shoe laces… also you started by quoting the average so don’t ignore Kamran’s average.
 
Suleiman said:
Kami is a household name, Shan could only dream of doing what Kami did with bat in tests ODIs and t20s. #SochaNiBhiManaHai
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Anyone who can actually read and understand the game knows how atrocious he was with the bat and with the gloves, not to mention his dodgy background, awful fitness and terrible attitude.
 
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Need to give Shan Masood time and respect. His hard work will eventually pay off. He is coming back into the test side after almost a 2 year abscence. A well spoken educated and hard working player like Shan Masood is very important for Pakistan's Cricket soft image.
 
Savak said:
Need to give Shan Masood time and respect. His hard work will eventually pay off. He is coming back into the test side after almost a 2 year abscence. A well spoken educated and hard working player like Shan Masood is very important for Pakistan's Cricket soft image.
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Not sure if serious or sarcastic at this point..
 
Forum363 said:
Technique LOL?? Did you ever watch him bat. He would lean on his bat as the bowler was running in and all his shots were flat footed hoicks.

He played hundreds of games and was lucky to fluke a few innings. He had the batting ability of Rana Naved or Hassan Ali, but imagine if they were given hundreds of games uninterrupted, mainly in the top order.

Shan has at least done well in domestic cricket and done brilliantly in county cricket, not to mention he had multiple counties fighting for him as a captain.

Kamraan was a joke of a cricketer and isn’t fit to tie Shan’s shoe laces… also you started by quoting the average so don’t ignore Kamran’s average.
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Technique or no technique - Kamran was one of the best WK batsman we ever had. Played various clutch knocks in Tests. Very good on the offside and equally potent against pace and spin.

However, did lack consistency and was let down by poor fitness later in his career. He was one of those players who did not have amazing stats but those who saw him play know how good and crucial he was to our team from 2004-2009
 
Savak said:
Need to give Shan Masood time and respect. His hard work will eventually pay off. He is coming back into the test side after almost a 2 year abscence. A well spoken educated and hard working player like Shan Masood is very important for Pakistan's Cricket soft image.
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Soft image more important than scoring runs to some I guess.
 
The_KING said:
You out here supporting a rubbish player like Masood who failed yet again, but is criticising Babar even after he scored an important century. :)))
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Babar has reached potential and is a proven softie who will never deliver in a chase or in tough conditions. Shan has potential hence why Yorkshire made him captain. He can score runs in all conditions and his 100 in SL in 2015 is worth 5 Babar Karachi hundreds.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Babar has reached potential and is a proven softie who will never deliver in a chase or in tough conditions. Shan has potential hence why Yorkshire made him captain. He can score runs in all conditions and his 100 in SL in 2015 is worth 5 Babar Karachi hundreds.
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So Babar has reached his potential at 28? But Shan is still a potential at 33? :)))

Yorkshire made him the captain because there are trying to improve their image after the racism scandal. Shan ticks all boxes, because he is good enough to score runs in weak English domestic system, can speak good English and he will likely be available throughout the whole season as he won't be a part of the Pakistan team for much long.

Babar scored a hundred in SL this year, which played a big part in our win. Shan is still living off that one fluke hundred against SL in 2015, where he wasn't even the main man. Younis played a better innings during that run chase.
 
msb314 said:
Technique or no technique - Kamran was one of the best WK batsman we ever had. Played various clutch knocks in Tests. Very good on the offside and equally potent against pace and spin.

However, did lack consistency and was let down by poor fitness later in his career. He was one of those players who did not have amazing stats but those who saw him play know how good and crucial he was to our team from 2004-2009
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One of the best WK batsmen we ever had??? He dropped so many catches, missed stumpings all the time, was giving away byes like they were nothing. And not to mention the debacle of the Sydney test where anyone can watch the replay of his runout ‘attempt’ and tell me that wasn’t dodgy.

There are lots of inconsistent players or impact players - no one averages as low as him with such a rubbish strike rate.

He played a couple of fluke innings but so did Mohammad Amir. It doesn’t make someone a good batsman. There’s a reason you look at their overall record.

I guarantee if Shan plays another 50 international matches, his record will be considerably better than Kamraan’s was after playing hundreds of matches.

And Kami can’t even dream of playing an innings like Shan played against Sri Lanka.
 
Forum363 said:
One of the best WK batsmen we ever had??? He dropped so many catches, missed stumpings all the time, was giving away byes like they were nothing. And not to mention the debacle of the Sydney test where anyone can watch the replay of his runout ‘attempt’ and tell me that wasn’t dodgy.

There are lots of inconsistent players or impact players - no one averages as low as him with such a rubbish strike rate.

He played a couple of fluke innings but so did Mohammad Amir. It doesn’t make someone a good batsman. There’s a reason you look at their overall record.

I guarantee if Shan plays another 50 international matches, his record will be considerably better than Kamraan’s was after playing hundreds of matches.

And Kami can’t even dream of playing an innings like Shan played against Sri Lanka.
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Like I said Kamran had his flaws and his WK did deteriorate over the years.

However, Shan has nothing on him and the longer he plays the more his stats will look worse. A rubbish batsman who is a domestic cricketer at best..
 
msb314 said:
Like I said Kamran had his flaws and his WK did deteriorate over the years.

However, Shan has nothing on him and the longer he plays the more his stats will look worse. A rubbish batsman who is a domestic cricketer at best..
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Kamraan isn’t even a domestic cricketer. He bats like Hassan Ali and is awful at his primary job which is keeping.

This whole argument that he was good but then fell away is ridiculous given he played HUNDREDS of international matches and had a terrible record.

Shan at least is sought after in county cricket as a leader and his game is praised by many around the cricketing world.
 
Forum363 said:
Kamraan isn’t even a domestic cricketer. He bats like Hassan Ali and is awful at his primary job which is keeping.

This whole argument that he was good but then fell away is ridiculous given he played HUNDREDS of international matches and had a terrible record.

Shan at least is sought after in county cricket as a leader and his game is praised by many around the cricketing world.
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Signing a county cricket deal is not yardstick to measure the success of Pakistani test batsman .
Shan is a perennial failure when it comes to being a test player for Pakistan . He’s had a few peaks but is way to inconsistent and a sub-30 average after so many matches is a testament to that .

He has improved his game , but even with those improvements he still does not cut the mustard at test level , and one needs to look at his last 8 test innings to realise that . I would say he is at the peak of his ability however even his peak is not bringing him the desired results.

Also I really don’t many people who praise Shan as a test batsman around the world . He’s a likeable guy and comes across well but they are not the core factors which will bring you success at test level .

To sum up his test record , his best phase as a test player is no better than the worst lean phase Azhar Ali had gone through in his test career .

Give him the rest of the series and see what he does , otherwise it should be good night Vienna for him .
 
msb314 said:
Like I said Kamran had his flaws and his WK did deteriorate over the years.

However, Shan has nothing on him and the longer he plays the more his stats will look worse. A rubbish batsman who is a domestic cricketer at best..
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Not quite sure where the Kamran Akmal and Shan Masood comparison came from, but yes Kamran averaged 30 in Tests with 6 100s and 12 50s. So his stats even though he was a wicket-keeper are currently better than Shan's.
 
Although Kamran Akmal was a poor wicket keeper but he played some extra ordinary innings against India. I remember me and my friend went to Mohali to watch Day 5 of a test match..we all thought it's a matter of Time India winning easily. But he and Razzak played the day 5 attack of Kumble with so much ease. Kamran scored a match saving Hundred in 4th inning.. one more inning he played in Pakistan against India where Irfan Pathan took hattrick but he played one of the best inning in the decider. Shan Masood can only dream of play these type of innings. Shan is at best an average player
 
Saj said:
Not quite sure where the Kamran Akmal and Shan Masood comparison came from, but yes Kamran averaged 30 in Tests with 6 100s and 12 50s. So his stats even though he was a wicket-keeper are currently better than Shan's.
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It's criminal to even think about comparing Kami with a total flop like Shan Masood.

Heck, even Imran Farhat and Yasir Hameed were miles better and you can't take their names along with Shan's.

This Shan guy is at best grade 2 level when it comes to PAK domestic circuit. Not sure how [MENTION=144683]Forum363[/MENTION] is a huge fan though.
 
Saj said:
Not quite sure where the Kamran Akmal and Shan Masood comparison came from, but yes Kamran averaged 30 in Tests with 6 100s and 12 50s. So his stats even though he was a wicket-keeper are currently better than Shan's.
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Kamraan played twice as many matches and basically played uninterrupted.

Give Shan another 20 games and I guarantee he will have a much better record than Kami though that’s not saying much.

The comparison came because the OP is alleging that Shan is the worst batter we’ve had. However Kami will forever retain that title and his atrocious keeping does not mean he shouldn’t be in the running.
 
Hawkeye said:
It's criminal to even think about comparing Kami with a total flop like Shan Masood.

Heck, even Imran Farhat and Yasir Hameed were miles better and you can't take their names along with Shan's.

This Shan guy is at best grade 2 level when it comes to PAK domestic circuit. Not sure how [MENTION=144683]Forum363[/MENTION] is a huge fan though.
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Shan was a club level batsman who has a brilliant work ethic and improved his game enough to play a couple of decent innings. He shouldn’t really be in the team.

However Kamraan was a stain on Pakistan cricket history, was allowed to play HUNDREDS of international games with a terrible record, awful attitude, obvious cheating and losing countless games with his keeping.

There is no comparison between them because Kami is the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket for decades while Shan is merely an average player with an admirable attitude.
 
GreenKhan said:
Signing a county cricket deal is not yardstick to measure the success of Pakistani test batsman .
Shan is a perennial failure when it comes to being a test player for Pakistan . He’s had a few peaks but is way to inconsistent and a sub-30 average after so many matches is a testament to that .

He has improved his game , but even with those improvements he still does not cut the mustard at test level , and one needs to look at his last 8 test innings to realise that . I would say he is at the peak of his ability however even his peak is not bringing him the desired results.

Also I really don’t many people who praise Shan as a test batsman around the world . He’s a likeable guy and comes across well but they are not the core factors which will bring you success at test level .

To sum up his test record , his best phase as a test player is no better than the worst lean phase Azhar Ali had gone through in his test career .

Give him the rest of the series and see what he does , otherwise it should be good night Vienna for him .
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He’s had sporadic chances spread over the years. He wasn’t given 50+ test matches uninterrupted.

I agree this series should be his last chance and that he has underperformed. But to say he’s the worst is not even close to being correct objectively.
 
Saj said:
Not quite sure where the Kamran Akmal and Shan Masood comparison came from, but yes Kamran averaged 30 in Tests with 6 100s and 12 50s. So his stats even though he was a wicket-keeper are currently better than Shan's.
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Kamraan has 6 hundreds but Shan already has 4 in half as many innings.
 
Some of ya'll expect Babar to win test series with this guy batting at #3. That is what is truly shocking.
 
Forum363 said:
Kamraan has 6 hundreds but Shan already has 4 in half as many innings.
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You need to stop defending and supporting this domestic at best cricketer.

Not even grade 1 rather grade 2 domestic.
 
Hawkeye said:
You need to stop defending and supporting this domestic at best cricketer.

Not even grade 1 rather grade 2 domestic.
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Go watch some highlights of what Kamraan did to Pakistan cricket. Start with the Sydney test.
 
Forum363 said:
Kamraan has 6 hundreds but Shan already has 4 in half as many innings.
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We can pick and choose stats to suit us.

Averaging 28 after 50 Test innings as a frontline batter is extremely poor whichever way you want to look at it.
 
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