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Shardul Thakur - an 'un'-inspired selection for India?

sensible-indian-fan said:
There is a reason why many Indians despise Kohli the LOI kaptan (who in my view is the DUMBEST LOI captain I have had the misfortune of witnessing).

Part of me wants us to NOT win anything in LOI till he is sacked so that he doesn't get any credit (which would be the right thing in a fair world).

Test kaptan Kohli is also just as stupid (luckily others usually cover up for his mistakes) but there atleast he deserves credit for other things he has done
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Hope you are not still hiding under a rock. Or does this credit go to Ravi Shastri, Rohit and everybody else except 'Kaptaan'?
 
ex-q-zit said:
Hope you are not still hiding under a rock. Or does this credit go to Ravi Shastri, Rohit and everybody else except 'Kaptaan'?
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He is talking about LOIs there. Not sure what credit you want to give to Kohli in LOIs? We haven't won any big ICC tournament under him. I too think Rohit will do better than him as a LOI captain. Kohli can prove me wrong though if India wins the next T20 WC. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He is talking about LOIs there. Not sure what credit you want to give to Kohli in LOIs? We haven't won any big ICC tournament under him. I too think Rohit will do better than him as a LOI captain. Kohli can prove me wrong though if India wins the next T20 WC. :inti
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Even I too believe Rohit can do an equally good job as Kohli if not better. But calling him the dumbest LOI captain was taking things a bit too far. The hatred he recieves is uncalled for. In the 4th t20 Rohit was hailed for his brilliant captaincy in pulling things back but Kohli didn't get the same appreciation for pulling things back in the 1st ODI.

Yes, the t20 WC will be a litmus test for Kohli, if he cannot win with this team then he will never win an ICC event ever and needs to be replaced.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He is talking about LOIs there. Not sure what credit you want to give to Kohli in LOIs? We haven't won any big ICC tournament under him. I too think Rohit will do better than him as a LOI captain. Kohli can prove me wrong though if India wins the next T20 WC. :inti
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This. Despite having all resources at his hand, he is yet to win a single LoI trophy for us.

Winning bilaterals is nothing as compared to trophies or else SA would have been undisputed ODI champs of '90s and perhaps '00s.
 
Mobashir said:
Yes quite sure. Thakur and the Currans are confirming their lack of quality with every outing.
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Thakur has picked key wickets against top teams numerous times and won games for India even with the "lack of quality".

But some get thrashed onto the grassbanks by club teams despite having an abundance of t@lunt and quality. :hasnain :apology
 
Shardul Thakur - Golden Arm

Boy this blocke is mediocre
Not express
Never takes heaps of wickets of fifers

But has made so so many important breakthroughs and changed matches !!!
Is it a lucky charm or something unoque this guy has
He picks 2-3 wickets but those changes the whole matches
And it seems to happen regularly

And plays some swashbuckling knocks too when needed !!
 
Nikhhil98 said:
Boy this blocke is mediocre
Not express
Never takes heaps of wickets of fifers

But has made so so many important breakthroughs and changed matches !!!
Is it a lucky charm or something unoque this guy has
He picks 2-3 wickets but those changes the whole matches
And it seems to happen regularly

And plays some swashbuckling knocks too when needed !!
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He was India's most successful bowler in the Gabba Test, getting 7 wickets. People think that his wickets are flukes, but he gets them so regularly that it can't be luck.
 
Napa said:
He was India's most successful bowler in the Gabba Test, getting 7 wickets. People think that his wickets are flukes, but he gets them so regularly that it can't be luck.
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He is just like Ajit Agarkar. A wicket taker. Someone who can complement Bhuvi who loves to contain and go wicketless. :inti
 
And... the Thakur machine rolls on... 4 wickets in the game already!
 
India captain Virat Kohli on Sunday said he was surprised that Shardul Thakur was not adjudged man-of-the-match for the third and final ODI against England and Bhuvneshwar Kumar missed the man-of-the-series honours despite strong performances. Sam Curran was handed the man-of-the match award for his heroic 83-ball 95 not out in a lost cause as India won the third ODI by seven runs to clinch the three-match series 2-1. Shardul took four wickets for 67 runs but conceded 18 runs in the 47th over to give England a shot at victory.

England top-order batsman Jonny Bairstow got the man-of-the-series award for his 219 runs in the three games, including a hundred to top the run-scorers' chart.

Bhuvneshwar took six wickets in the series at an economy rate of 4.65 and an average of 22.50.

"I'm surprised Shardul wasn't the man of the match, and Bhuvi wasn't the man of the series. A lot of credit to them for bowling so well in adverse conditions," Kohli said at the post-match presentation, wrapping up series victories across formats against the tourists.

India dropped at least four catches, including that of Curran, at crucial junctures to pile on the pressure but Kohli sought to play it down.

"It's most disappointing for the guy who drops the catch, but as much as you get disappointed, catches get put down and sometimes they cost you. That is a part of the game.

"There's no lack of intent, and our body language was outstanding. Eventually we got over the line," he said.

Asked about the intensity shown by both the teams in the white-ball leg, Kohli said, "When the top-two teams battle each other, we'll get exciting games. We knew England are not going to throw in the towel, and Sam played a really good innings to keep them in the hunt.

"However, our bowlers picked up wickets, and it moved from us finishing it off to them getting over the line before Hardik (Pandya) and Nattu (T Natarajan) pulled it back. Prasidh (Krishna) and Krunal (Pandya) were impressive. "But death overs batting was extremely good, despite the early wickets, and if the top three can get a hundred, then we can get 370s and 380s later.

"This win has been sweet because it's against the top team in the world, and we're looking forward to the IPL. It's been an amazing season, series, and this was a great way to finish it off."

Asked about two months inside a bio-secure bubble during this England tour, he said, "Scheduling needs to be looked at in future, since playing in bubbles will be difficult, and everyone can't have the same mental capacity all the time. But I'm looking forward to the IPL for now."

https://sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-en...mp=1&akamai-rum=off&__twitter_impression=true
 
pillionrider said:
No love for this unsung hero.

So much love for the pretender Hardik :sanga
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My earlier post several months back attracted Hardik fans who seem to have quoted back LOI/T20 numbers. I agree. In white ball cricket, Hardik is probably the better choice.

But tomorrow, if the delicate and highly-insured Hardik decides he can bowl in test cricket, Kohli will chuck even his current favourite Jadeja to fit in the wannabe West Indian.

In my view, there should be no debate on the choice of medium-pace all-rounder anymore.
 
SHARDUL THAKUR was the star of the Indian innings, smashing the fastest-ever Test fifty at The Oval - he finished with 57 off just 36 balls...

"When Rishabh got out, it was important for me to play such an innings. "There are two ways: you can either be patient and bank on all of the partners coming in, or if it’s in your slot hit it.

"There is no right or wrong way – runs are runs – but today was a day where I was connecting properly, so I kept going for the shots.

"Wickets kept falling at regular intervals, but we did well to get up to 190. Right now the game is equally poised; we have a chance. Let's see how tomorrow goes."
 
Impressed with him today.

Came in and took the attack to England and put pressure on the home team's bowlers.
 
Prediction of Day 4 of Oval Test :-

England need 220 runs to win this test match. They are at 140/5 with Root batting at 49* and Woakes also on crease.

Shardul to bowl the next ball. He runs in and bowls the next delivery wide down the leg to Root who looks to flicks it towards fine leg but unfortunately gets an edge and Pant takes a clean catch.

England gets collapsed after Root's wicket and are bundled at 171/10 while chasing 220.

Game changer of the match - Shardul Thakur

Shardul certainly amazes everyone as he always finds a way to take wickets when matters and often those big wickets and also scores useful runs with bat which do make a difference in a way or two. But neither his bowling nor batting does give the reliability or assurance of success to the viewers or analysts.
 
Shardul Thakur emerged as the unlikely hero for India from Day 1 of the 4th Test against England, taking India's first innings total to a respectable mark of 191 runs with his 36-ball 57. In the process, Shardul broke England great Ian Botham's record of scoring the fastest fifty in England.

Upon his return to the dressing room from the blitzkrieg at the Oval, Shardul wasn't just applauded by his teammates for the effort but also teased having broken the record of a legendary batsman.

Speaking to the host broadcaster after his stupendous knock with the bat on Day 1, Shardul said that he wasn't aware of Botham's record but it was nice to be spoken in the same sentence as the England great.

"I was not aware of it (breaking Ian Botham's record). But it's always good to score important runs for the team. Yes, these guys are teasing me with his name. But I think it's good to be compared with the greats of the game," Shardul told the host broadcasters after India fought back on Day 1.

Speaking of his decision to launch a counter-attack, Shardul said that there is no right way of scoring runs and since it was important to put a decent total on the board, he decided to take the charge.

"When Rishabh got out, it was important for me to play such an innings. There are two ways, either you can be patient and bank on the partner to score runs or go and hit it. But at the end of the day, you have to score the runs. I think there is no right way of scoring runs. Runs are runs. Today was a day where I could connect properly. So I kept going for the runs," he added.

After the late heroics with the bat, India did well with the ball in the remaining overs on Day 1 too. Jasprit Bumrah removed both England openers -- Rory Burns and Haseeb Hameed -- before Umesh Yadav got the big fish Joe Root with a jaffa.

Assessing the match after the first day's play, Shardul feels the equation is in balance.

"Definitely, at one stage, we felt 150 or 170 as wickets kept falling at regular intervals. But 190 is a score, in the first innings, is going to count. Runs in the first innings are important and I think we have a chance," he said.

"I think this pitch is good for both batsmen and bowlers. If you keep pitching in the right areas, something is there in the pitch. But at the same time, the margin of error is less as the batsman can score runs."

England will have a big test in the first session on Day 2, especially considering the way Indian pacers have bowled this series. The hosts would still be hoping to put a 200+ total in the first innings in order to make things a little comfortable for themselves.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-fifty-gets-teased-by-indian-teammates/807169
 
As I've always maintained, a nothing bowler gets some fluke wickets. His batting may come off once in a while though.
 
Mobashir said:
It's his method to bowl poor.
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Yeah, I get that. Nothing balls get him wickets, sometimes some deliveries do come out well by fluke.

Not a test class seamer. However, if he gets into team as a handy bat a la Jadeja then yeah its a problem.

These guys come into team in the name of
being handy lower order bats as our top and middle order aren't doing their job. Had they been doing their job, we won't have touched these bits and pieces cricketers with a barge pole!
 
His bowling figures in this series are :
132-5 at 26.4 avg.

Batting avg - 27
He has done well and will continue to do so.

Looks like some people don't have a clue about how 4th seamer operate and what's required of them
 
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Thakur has certainly justified his selection for this test and I accept rather gleefully that I was wrong about him. More of the same in future, Lord Thakur.
 
Terrific cricketer.

Gabba and Oval, two iconic performances in my opinion. Hopefully, he gets the big fish, Joe Root as well in second inning.
 
Appears to be strong mentally too. Not easy facing these English bowlers on a seaming wicket. Lower order batsmen generally fold after scoring a quick 20 or 30.
 
His 57 runs first innings is most valuable innings so far. That have changed the course of India loosing to winning position
 
dravidthewall said:
His 57 runs first innings is most valuable innings so far. That have changed the course of India loosing to winning position
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Exactly and I said this after the first inning ended. Knowing our fans they will most likely give credit to Pant if India wins this match though lol. Totally forgetting Rohit Sharma's contribution also by saying that his century didn't guarantee Indian win. :inti
 
atm he looks more reliable with bat than ball

can be our no. 7 going forward,that will allow Ashwin to play too
 
hadul Thakur became only the sixth cricketer in Test history to score half-centuries in both innings, while batting at 8.

Thakur emulated fellow Indian cricketers Harbhajan Singh and Wriddiman Saha.

Thakur scored a crisp 60 in the second innings, before he was caught by Craig Overton at first slip off Joe Root’s bowling.

Shardual has broken one too many records in the penultimate Test against England at the Oval.

In the first innings, Thakur smashed half-century in just 31 balls, the second fastest recorded half-century in Test cricket for India. The fastest is by Kapil Dev off 30 deliveries against Pakistan in Karachi in 1982. In terms of strike rate, Thakur's 36-ball 57 is the second-quickest fifty-plus score in Tests for India, behind Kapil's 55-ball 89, also against England at Lord's in 1982.

To back his batting, Shardul also bagged the crucial wicket of Ollie Pope in the first innings.

Thakur also recorded the fastest half-century in Test matches in England. The previous fastest was by Ian Botham, in 32 balls against New Zealand in 1986, also at The Oval.

India is in commanding situation at the Oval with lead crossed 300-run mark.

Shardul Thakur and Rishabh Pant has put on 100-run for the seventh wicket.

There were jitters in the touring camp after coach Ravi Shastri tested positive for COVID-19 and the team were cleared to play after the players returned two negative results.

The five-test series is level at 1-1

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...-each-innings-batting-at-8-1849507-2021-09-05
 
The naysayers would still be harping on about him being lucky even though he has been so good in this innings.
Champion allrounder.
 
Shardul is my man of the match. 3 wickets in crucial situations and 115 runs with bat.
 
Amazing fighter. Little natural ability but the heart this Ranji veteran has, OMG.

Superior version of Andy Bichel IMO, slightly worse with the ball and better with the bat. With such amazing quicks and spinners like Ashwin, Jadeja he can be easily accommodated in the XI especially in overseas tests.
 
Wish Hardik Pandya had 1% of the grit and never say die attitude Thakur has.
 
Gotta admit. Does not look intimidating at all with bat or ball. But delivers on consistent basis with wickets and runs. In short test career he has contributed to 2 big Indian wins overseas one at gabba and niow at oval .
 
In away test matches, he is going to be important for India. Good find, now India's bowling attack is complete
 
Hopefully, now we won't hear anything about Pandya, the test player.
 
I am a test purist and for me, Shardul Thakur is the best all-rounder that India has after Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja.

Washington Sundar is the 4th best and has massive potential. He is just 21 year old. His performance in Gabba and home test series vs England was high quality .

:inti
 
Mp812 said:
Gotta admit. Does not look intimidating at all with bat or ball. But delivers on consistent basis with wickets and runs. In short test career he has contributed to 2 big Indian wins overseas one at gabba and niow at oval .
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You don't need to intimidate another player to either get wickets or make valuable runs against the opposition. His breath taking cover drives in both innings plus 5 valuable wickets were a feast to the naked eye...
 
Ab Fan said:
Prediction of Day 4 of Oval Test :-

England need 220 runs to win this test match. They are at 140/5 with Root batting at 49* and Woakes also on crease.

Shardul to bowl the next ball. He runs in and bowls the next delivery wide down the leg to Root who looks to flicks it towards fine leg but unfortunately gets an edge and Pant takes a clean catch.

England gets collapsed after Root's wicket and are bundled at 171/10 while chasing 220.

Game changer of the match - Shardul Thakur

Shardul certainly amazes everyone as he always finds a way to take wickets when matters and often those big wickets and also scores useful runs with bat which do make a difference in a way or two. But neither his bowling nor batting does give the reliability or assurance of success to the viewers or analysts.
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Wow spot on, Apart from numbers, situation that England looked to save the match, mode of dismissal and delivery on other side of the wicket, the script happened to be real. Considering it was done 3 days earlier it was great prediction.
 
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Arajit said:
Wow spot on, Apart from numbers, situation that England looked to save the match, mode of dismissal and delivery on other side of the wicket, the script happened to be real. Considering it was done 3 days earlier it was great prediction.
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Thank you brother!

Shardul Thakur is a very underrated cricketer who keeps proving everyone wrong through his performance. Forget the numbers, the context of my post was to just explain that Shardul seems to be having that ability to change/turn the game on its head by a moment of magic with either bat/bowl. This is exactly he did when he got the wicket of Burns early morning and then ended England's any hope left, later in the day by dismissing Joe Root.
 
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Swashbuckler said:
Wish Hardik Pandya had 1% of the grit and never say die attitude Thakur has.
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That's not fair to Pandya. True he doesn't fire often, but sometimes he does very well. But I have never seen him intimidated or lacking effort.
 
Ab Fan said:
Thank you brother!

Shardul Thakur is a very underrated cricketer who keeps proving everyone wrong through his performance. Forget the numbers, the context of my post was to just explain that Shardul seems to be having that ability to change/turn the game on its head by a moment of magic with either bat/bowl. This is exactly he did when he got the wicket of Burns early morning and then ended England's any hope left, later in the day by dismissing Joe Root.
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Another allrounder from the Pandya school of cricket. zero batting and zero bowling.
 
It''s probably so shameful to see a bowler like Thakur as a Frontline bowler for India.
He is Namibia/Scotland level player.
 
Shardul is a 2nd team county team level cricketer and I have honestly seen far better bowlers playing first team cricket in the Birmingham league.
 
Mobashir said:
It''s probably so shameful to see a bowler like Thakur as a Frontline bowler for India.
He is Namibia/Scotland level player.
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You need to blame Australia for this. A lot of these cr@ppy bowlers like Thakur were given the confidence to believe they are good because of the jobber T20/Test Aussie side who seem to tremble in their boots when hosting India or playing away to them.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Siraj is also exposed as a rubbish bowler very soon as well
 
Thakur seems like a roly-poly allounder with bits and pieces cricket skills, but this is the guy that won India the test series in Aus and Eng.
 
IPL didn't do any good to India as a T20 team as we saw. Many were arguing over it. But we saw the results India has big players but they aren't firing when it matters. But these same bunch of players were doing wonder in IPL!
 
Mainul said:
IPL didn't do any good to India as a T20 team as we saw. Many were arguing over it. But we saw the results India has big players but they aren't firing when it matters. But these same bunch of players were doing wonder in IPL!
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India has big players? Kohli, Rohit and Bumrah ok but what are others?
 
Rana said:
You need to blame Australia for this. A lot of these cr@ppy bowlers like Thakur were given the confidence to believe they are good because of the jobber T20/Test Aussie side who seem to tremble in their boots when hosting India or playing away to them.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Siraj is also exposed as a rubbish bowler very soon as well
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I have my theory from day 1 for the India win in Australia last year.
But one thing is sure, "Thakur to gayo"!!
 
Yet another of our flabby "athletes". I actually think he is a decent test player but shouldn't play anything other than league t20 cricket.
 
Good test bowler in favourable conditions and a better batsman than Ashwin.

In LOIs, he is a poor man's Pandya when the latter is fit. A fully fit Pandya is the best LOI all-rounder in the world. :kp
 
5fer for Shardul - brought India back into this game!
 
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