Shashank Manohar's trip to Pakistan in limbo due to political instability in Pak [Update Post #26]

[MenInG]

Media reports indicate that he will visit Pakistan in last week of July to meet PCB Chairman; expected to discuss world XI tour etc

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Honorary Citizenship......

Anyone ??

 

[Hayreddin]

This is an interesting outcome of the champions trophy. When was the last time a former BCCI head visited Pakistan?

 

[Hayreddin]

It would be fantastic if we get Sri Lanka and India to tour Pakistan. Though that last one seems highly unlikely.

 

[czar]

Looks like Cricket could be back in Pakistan very soon.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

It would be fantastic if we get Sri Lanka and India to tour Pakistan. Though that last one seems highly unlikely.

India? Live in reality will you.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Sri Lanka should tour us. We need redemption. The floodgates of international cricket are about to open.

 

[JaDed]

India? Live in reality will you.

Shashank Manohar visiting Pak did you expect that?

 

[JaDed]

Has Shashank Manohar done more for PCT indirectly than some of its own chairmen,maybe maybe not but the dude has defn tried to bury BCCI into the ground.

 

[90MPH]

Has Shashank Manohar done more for PCT indirectly than some of its own chairmen,maybe maybe not but the dude has defn tried to bury BCCI into the ground.

He's been great for the game of cricket.

 

[Major]

My assumptions are the case that pcb filed regarding mou its that effect

Because anyone actually believing about a tour is just being naive. Indian govt isnt gonna approve

 

[todfod 11]

BCCI hates Manoher. Shashank manohar seems like a really honest man. He does not care even if he offends bcci directly or indirectly.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Has Shashank Manohar done more for PCT indirectly than some of its own chairmen,maybe maybe not but the dude has defn tried to bury BCCI into the ground.

He's doing his job rather doing what desis do best - nepotism and corruption.

 

[Hayreddin]

[MENTION=138894]Flat_Track_Bully[/MENTION]

I believe that's what I meant by "highly unlikely". Its all just fun conjecture, dude.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Has Shashank Manohar done more for PCT indirectly than some of its own chairmen,maybe maybe not but the dude has defn tried to bury BCCI into the ground.

From the outside looking in he comes across as a man of principe

Don't know what his reputation was in India prior to his current job

 

[KevinFern]

Anyone know who was that guy who had the temerity to look in the face straight and say that he would not tour uae due to corruption after having played the domestic league just there last year?

 

[Abdullah719]

PCB's Shaharyar Khan invites ICC chairman Shashank Manohar to visit Lahore in August

Karachi: The outgoing chief of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Shaharyar Khan has invited the ICC chairman Shashank Manohar to visit Lahore next month.

Khan confirmed on Monday that he had spoken to Manohar during the ICC meetings in London last month and extended an invitation to him.

"Manohar said he will look into the invitation and try to make it. But nothing is confirmed yet," Khan said.

Sources close to Khan said he had invited Manohar, a former President of the Board of Control for Cricket (BCCI) in India, to formally attend a farewell reception which will be given to the him in Lahore.

The PCB is set to elect a new chairman at its Governing Board meeting later this month but Khan will complete his three-year term in mid-August.

"The idea behind inviting Manohar to Lahore is to also finalise the World XI's tour to Pakistan in September as the ICC has shown its support for the tour," the source said.

Najam Sethi, who heads the PCB's executive committee and is expected to succeed Khan, said the ICC will make the decision of who will lead the World XI to Lahore.

"We see the World XI tour as the beginning of good times for Pakistan cricket and that is why we are giving it so much importance," Sethi said.

No top Test team has toured Pakistan since March 2009 when terrorists attacked the Sri Lankan national cricket team in Lahore.

Khan also confirmed that the PCB was still trying to convince the Sri Lankan cricket board to send its team to Lahore to play a few T20 matches this year, while he said that the board had dropped the idea of inviting new Test entrants -- Ireland -- to Pakistan.

"We had invited Ireland in recent times but they have asked for fees to come to Pakistan and right now we are not in a position to afford such expenses," Khan said.

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/pcb...anohar-to-visit-lahore-in-august-3772957.html

 

[MMHS]

Obviously for PCB, sending invitation means he is coming as per invitation, unless he gives another dhoka ................

 

[Billy1999]

BCCI is a co-operate business that is only beneficianary to themselves whilst squeezing all the money out of other cricketing countries

 

[hadi123]

Ireland wanted a fee to come to Pakistan??? That's laughable, an awful team like them want to be paid to come to Pakistan. No way, you're the one who will benefit from playing us, not vice versa

 

[gazza619]

Obviously for PCB, sending invitation means he is coming as per invitation, unless he gives another dhoka ................

exactly. Dhoka is on the cards..

 

[Markhor]

Ireland wanted a fee to come to Pakistan??? That's laughable, an awful team like them want to be paid to come to Pakistan. No way, you're the one who will benefit from playing us, not vice versa

Didn't we pay off the Zimbabwean players to come tour in 2015 ?

 

[hadi123]

Didn't we pay off the Zimbabwean players to come tour in 2015 ?

Yes we did, Zimbabwe are a better team than Ireland though and that money was just a little sweetener they would have come anyway

 

[moghul]

It would be nice but my only problem is should I believe this ? How many times SYK has said something only to be denied by the "guests".

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Didn't we pay off the Zimbabwean players to come tour in 2015 ?

Yes,$12500 per player and staff,it was rumoured.

 

[Abdullah719]

Shashank Manohar's trip to Pakistan in limbo due to political instability in the country

Karachi: The tentative Pakistan visit of ICC chairman Shashank Manohar in August-September appears to be in a limbo due to the political instability in the country over the ongoing Panama Papers case with speculations rife that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif will be ousted by the apex court.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had sought advice and support from the government for provision of security and other arrangements but due to the political scenario they have received no response from the relevant authorities until now.

"Manohar's visit is being linked to the visit of the World XI in early September as earlier he was invited to come in August but by that time the PCB chairman Shaharyar Khan would have completed his three-year tenure and stepped down," a reliable source said.

Khan had first verbally invited the Indian head of the world body and later the PCB sent him a formal invitation.

"With Shaharyar to be replaced by a new Chairman in August, it appears even if Manohar comes it will coincide with the visit of the World XI but at this point of time with just around six weeks remaining the tour seems unlikely due to the political scenario," another source said.

The PCB was over the moon after the ICC at its last board meeting approved the visit of the World XI to Pakistan in September to play three T20 Internationals.

Initially, the PCB had scheduled the visit of the World XI in late September but when it emerged that at this time some key international players would be unavailable the PCB decided to hold the tour in early September.

"But given that the ICC is seeking top security arrangements and assurances for the World XI, which are yet forthcoming from the government to the PCB due to the uncertain political conditions in the country, it seems time is running out and if the World Eleven doesn't come than Manohar's visit is also unlikely to take place," the source added.

Another well-informed source said that the PCB had contacted the relevant government officials and departments seeking meeting time to discuss security and other arrangements.

"But so far nothing has come from the government officials and departments who are busy with the Panama case," he said.

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/icc...tical-instability-in-the-country-3842137.html

 

[squarecut]

Shashank Manohar, a former BCCI official, is a traitor as far as Indians in general and BCCI in particular is concerned. He is looting money that BCCI is helping earn through Indian cricket lovers and distributing this money to bribe other boards to vote against BCCI interests.

He is taking full advantage of the present situation of BCCI where BCCI are at the receiving end of judicial activism of Indian Supreme Court who in their misguided zeal are out there to "reform" BCCI.

 

[squarecut]

Pakistan can take Shashank Manohar and keep him there permanently as far as Indians are concerned.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Shashank Manohar, a former BCCI official, is a traitor as far as Indians in general and BCCI in particular is concerned. He is looting money that BCCI is helping earn through Indian cricket lovers and distributing this money to bribe other boards to vote against BCCI interests.

He is taking full advantage of the present situation of BCCI where BCCI are at the receiving end of judicial activism of Indian Supreme Court who in their misguided zeal are out there to "reform" BCCI.

How is he a traitor? Last I checked, he was the ICC Chairman, meaning that he represents ALL countries that play cricket. Nothing wrong with what he did. BCCI had the option to walk out, why didn't they?

Just like the cricket world needs India, India needs the cricket world as well.

 

[squarecut]

BCCI had the option to walk out and they wanted to exercise that, but the Supreme Court appointed CoA armtwisted them into participating in the Champions Trophy. As I mentioned,, Supreme Court of India in their misguided zeal has taken it upon themselves to "reform" BCCI.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

BCCI had the option to walk out and they wanted to exercise that, but the Supreme Court appointed CoA armtwisted them into participating in the Champions Trophy. As I mentioned,, Supreme Court of India in their misguided zeal has taken it upon themselves to "reform" BCCI.

Apprantly from what I have read the supreme court of India is actually a well trusted institution. Just because they are trying to do something right, that you don't agree with, doesn't mean the courts are wrong.

The power will eventually be turned back over to the BCCI after the reformation is done, hopefully a better and cleaner BCCI will emerge.

India can walk away, but they also know that the revenue is generated when playing international teams. They can threat all they want, but don't see them actually walking.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

BCCI had the option to walk out and they wanted to exercise that, but the Supreme Court appointed CoA armtwisted them into participating in the Champions Trophy. As I mentioned,, Supreme Court of India in their misguided zeal has taken it upon themselves to "reform" BCCI.

And do we care about the problems Indian administrators are facing ?? It's nobody's fault that India can't get its own house in order when it matters.

 

[JaDed]

Apprantly from what I have read the supreme court of India is actually a well trusted institution. Just because they are trying to do something right, that you don't agree with, doesn't mean the courts are wrong.

The power will eventually be turned back over to the BCCI after the reformation is done, hopefully a better and cleaner BCCI will emerge.

India can walk away, but they also know that the revenue is generated when playing international teams. They can threat all they want, but don't see them actually walking.

SC of India is a wannabe activist court that threw the Homosexual issue to the politicians but took up cricket administration because its the only money making sport in India for now.

 

[JaDed]

How is he a traitor? Last I checked, he was the ICC Chairman, meaning that he represents ALL countries that play cricket. Nothing wrong with what he did. BCCI had the option to walk out, why didn't they?

Just like the cricket world needs India, India needs the cricket world as well.

How did he become an ICC chairman? Did PCB nominate him,its a rotating chair,and no person goes out of the way to hurt the board that gave them the opportunity.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

How did he become an ICC chairman? Did PCB nominate him,its a rotating chair,and no person goes out of the way to hurt the board that gave them the opportunity.

Doesn't matter, in the end, once your ICC Chairman you need to take into consideration all other boards. That's exactly what he did.

He hasn't hurt the board, if anything it will help the BCCI in the long run. With the release of excess funds to more countries, it develops there infrastructure more which is better for a healthy cricket world. Competitive cricketing countries leads to better series, which drives revenues higher.

Need to get out of the mindset of "oh he's Indian and he should have looked out for India only."

 

[JaDed]

Doesn't matter, in the end, once your ICC Chairman you need to take into consideration all other boards. That's exactly what he did.

He hasn't hurt the board, if anything it will help the BCCI in the long run. With the release of excess funds to more countries, it develops there infrastructure more which is better for a healthy cricket world. Competitive cricketing countries leads to better series, which drives revenues higher.

Need to get out of the mindset of "oh he's Indian and he should have looked out for India only."

Not "only" but going out of your way to hurt Indian interests is something only a traitor would do,good for him though hopefully he can become an administrator in other countries now whom won't even remember him after an year,coz he ran away when SC started to interfere in BCCI.

 

[Junaids]

Shashank Manohar, a former BCCI official, is a traitor as far as Indians in general and BCCI in particular is concerned. He is looting money that BCCI is helping earn through Indian cricket lovers and distributing this money to bribe other boards to vote against BCCI interests.

He is taking full advantage of the present situation of BCCI where BCCI are at the receiving end of judicial activism of Indian Supreme Court who in their misguided zeal are out there to "reform" BCCI.

This is complete rubbish, and I'm amazed that it hasn't been moderated.

The reality is almost 180 degrees from what you have written.

The previous management of the BCCI obtained a disproportionate share of ICC revenue - not money that the BCCI had earned in any shape or form - and the financial records published by the BCCI show that it was used to pay off the State Cricket Associations, presumably for their votes.

See pages 157-160 of this link to THEIR OWN financial reports.

http://relaunch-live.s3.amazonaws.c...ual Report 2015-16_FOR BCCI WEBSITE_FINAL.pdf

Almost none of this money was spent on player payments, pensions or anything else cricket-related, all of which are itemised properly as what they are.

Manohar was well aware that the BCCI was holding the ICC to ransom, extorting a disproportionately large payment, only to squander it by using it to buy votes instead of spending it on anything cricket related.

It's all in the ICC's own Annual Financial Reports. The pay-offs to the State Cricket Associations are so vast that the BCCI is essentially insolvent without ICC welfare handouts.

 

[squarecut]

The fact that ICC were worried at the prospects of BCCI pulling out of Champions trophy is well known. ICC would not bother with the non participation of BCCI if they did not bring in most of ICC earning. If BCCI did not participate in ICC tournaments, there is no way ICC will be able to distribute fantastic amounts to other boards that are otherwise incapable of bringing much to ICC coffers.

 

[KevinFern]

Manohar and his loyalty can be discussed some other day. What I found interesting is the possibility of a soft judicial disguised military coup in Pakistan and the resultant non arrival of World XI

 

[Proactive_]

Calling a guy who has done his job impartially and to the best to his abilities a "traitor". Never change Indian fans.

 

[Junaids]

The fact that ICC were worried at the prospects of BCCI pulling out of Champions trophy is well known. ICC would not bother with the non participation of BCCI if they did not bring in most of ICC earning. If BCCI did not participate in ICC tournaments, there is no way ICC will be able to distribute fantastic amounts to other boards that are otherwise incapable of bringing much to ICC coffers.

Again, a complete reversal of actual events.

The ICC already has been paid in full by Star TV for the rights for the period 2015-2023.

Elements within - or to be precise in the case of Srinivasan - OUTSIDE the BCCI thought that they could hold the ICC to ransom by threatening to boycott the 2017 Champions Trophy.

And the ICC stared them down until the BCCI capitulated and played. And the BCCI ended up only getting the deal from the ICC that Manohar had already offered it.

Your posts in this thread are breathtaking. They are a complete reversal of the facts.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Shashank Manohar, a former BCCI official, is a traitor as far as Indians in general and BCCI in particular is concerned. He is looting money that BCCI is helping earn through Indian cricket lovers and distributing this money to bribe other boards to vote against BCCI interests.

He is taking full advantage of the present situation of BCCI where BCCI are at the receiving end of judicial activism of Indian Supreme Court who in their misguided zeal are out there to "reform" BCCI.

the ICC needs more such traitors in order to balance BCCI hegemony.

 

[Varun]

Shashank Manohar has been doing a stellar job. The posters on this thread are the exception to the rule of Indian fans appreciating his moves to reform the BCCI.

At a global level - I'm sure he had a major part to play in bringing test cricket to Ireland and Afghanistan. Can't wait to see them play!

 

[Thomaskutty]

^ I like him too. Maybe after he retires he will write a book about the backroom politics during his 2 years heading the icc. I'd buy that.