Shehbaz Sharif's attempts to limit influence of Overseas Pakistanis

[Savak]

The federal cabinet on Tuesday discussed measures to keep prices of food items stable and ensure their steady supply.
It decided to continue the rates of flour and sugar fixed under the Ramazan package besides allowing 3 million metric tons of wheat import.

The cabinet, which met here with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif in the chair, also decided to revoke multiple foreign passports under the Passport Act. During the meeting, the ministers were informed that electricity load-shedding had been brought to nil.

Briefing reporters about the decisions taken by the cabinet, Information Minister Marriyum Aurangzeb said the prime minister directed for introducing an incentivised agricultural policy that would enable the country to curtail wheat import.

The cabinet also decided to continue the fixed rates of flour and sugar under the Ramazan package. Under the package, the price of a 20 kilogramme bag of flour was reduced from Rs950 to Rs800. Similarly, the rate of sugar was cut from Rs85 per kg to Rs70 per kg, she said.

“Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has banned the export of sugar. The ban is aimed at ensuring the smooth supply of the sweetener in the country at affordable price,” she said, adding that sufficient stock of sugar was available in the country to meet the demand till the completion of this season.

The minister told reporters that the cabinet approved the revocation of multiple foreign passports under Passport Act, 1974. The ministers stressed that such passports should not only be revoked but also a strategy should be formulated to prevent their use in future, she added.

“Last date for the cancellation of dual foreign passport is December 31 of this year. Till the date all procedural and administrative arrangements will be finalised to take legal action against dual foreign passport holders,” Aurangzeb said.

Energy Minister Khurram Dastagir informed the cabinet that no load shedding was taking place in any part of the country. He added that requests had been sent to the cabinet for the provision of additional resources to end load-shedding.

Aurangzeb said that the cabinet approved the appointment of Fawad Asadullah Khan as the director general of the Intelligence Bureau (IB); Muhammad Masood as member of the Pakistan Ordnance Factory (POF) and Admiral (retd) Salman Elias as the Director of the Shipyard Engineering Works.

The cabinet also accepted the resignation of Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) Chairman Lt-Gen Muzammil Hussain. It gave the additional charge of the Wapda chairman to the Wapda member finance till the new chairman was appointed.

Aurangzeb said that the cabinet disposed of a 9-point agenda. During the meeting, the prime minister briefed the ministers about his recent visit to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The cabinet ratified the decisions taken by the Economic Coordination Committee in its meeting on Monday.

(WITH INPUT FROM NEWS DESK)

Link: https://pakistan-sports.com/holding-multiple-foreign-passports-banned/

 

[Savak]

https://dgip.gov.pk/immigration/dual_nationality.php

 

[Mamoon]

It would be brilliant if they can materialize this. This dual citizenship nonsense needs to end.

It would badly expose the fake Pakistanis who feign their patriotism over the internet but if you ask them to choose between Pakistani passport and the foreign passport, 99% of them will pick the latter.

Then they want voting rights as well.

If you have a foreign passport, you are permanently settled abroad and therefore your future generations will have nothing to do with Pakistan, you are not qualified to be considered a Pakistani citizen and you should have no say in how the country is run.

 

[MenInG]

It would be brilliant if they can materialize this. This dual citizenship nonsense needs to end.

It would badly expose the fake Pakistanis who feign their patriotism over the internet but if you ask them to choose between Pakistani passport and the foreign passport, 99% of them will pick the latter.

Then they want voting rights as well.

If you have a foreign passport, you are permanently settled abroad and therefore your future generations will have nothing to do with Pakistan, you are not qualified to be considered a Pakistani citizen and you should have no say in how the country is run.

Do you think this will happen given the number of influential people in this country who have dual nationalities?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Do you think this will happen given the number of influential people in this country who have dual nationalities?

Also given the number of people who have invested in Pakistan, assuming many of them will want to sell up and pull their money out. Should certainly put a brake on future flow of revenue into the country from abroad.

Actually might not be the worst thing for the country in the long run, it will bring the value of property down to more affordable levels for locals. It might also make them more self reliant in many cases if they know they can't rely on periodical handouts from relatives abroad.

 

[Bewal Express]

It would be brilliant if they can materialize this. This dual citizenship nonsense needs to end.

It would badly expose the fake Pakistanis who feign their patriotism over the internet but if you ask them to choose between Pakistani passport and the foreign passport, 99% of them will pick the latter.

Then they want voting rights as well.

If you have a foreign passport, you are permanently settled abroad and therefore your future generations will have nothing to do with Pakistan, you are not qualified to be considered a Pakistani citizen and you should have no say in how the country is run.

How many of the Sharifs hold Foreign passports

 

[IMMY69]

Do you think this will happen given the number of influential people in this country who have dual nationalities?

Honestly, I don't think they care.

In my opinion they have two point agenda.

1. Avoid jail at all costs
2. Keep plundering the country of a percentage of its revenue

The only people that suffer are the poor of Pakistan and suppressing the poor is what keeps these people in power. They don't care about anything other then the two points I mentioned above.

 

[Bewal Express]

It would be brilliant if they can materialize this. This dual citizenship nonsense needs to end.

It would badly expose the fake Pakistanis who feign their patriotism over the internet but if you ask them to choose between Pakistani passport and the foreign passport, 99% of them will pick the latter.

Then they want voting rights as well.

If you have a foreign passport, you are permanently settled abroad and therefore your future generations will have nothing to do with Pakistan, you are not qualified to be considered a Pakistani citizen and you should have no say in how the country is run.

Can you explain why 2 of the Absconders with British Passports were on the official delegation to Saudi? Is it normal to have criminals on official parties. If Beghairti had a name

 

[Hextro]

Yes, let's alienate the smartest and brightest Pakistanis that have the potential to take the country forward. Brilliant idea.

 

[silentkiller187]

ISLAMABAD: Information Minister Marriyum Aurangzeb clarified on Friday that more than one passport held by an individual will be revoked under the Passport Act 1974 and the new policy does not apply to holders of foreign passports.

On May 11, it was reported that the federal cabinet, which met with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif in the chair, decided to revoke multiple foreign passports under the Passport Act.

While giving a clarification today, Aurnagzeb said that the meeting of the Federal Cabinet on May 10, 2022, approved the revocation of more than one Pakistani passport.

"News of cancellation of foreign passports was misreported," the minister said. "It is a crime to have two Pakistani passports. The last date for revocation of two Pakistani passports is December 31, 2022."

She added that decision would not apply to foreign citizenships or foreign passports.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/235643...-not-applicable-to-foreign-passports-marriyum

 

[silentkiller187]

ISLAMABAD: Information Minister Marriyum Aurangzeb clarified on Friday that more than one passport held by an individual will be revoked under the Passport Act 1974 and the new policy does not apply to holders of foreign passports.

On May 11, it was reported that the federal cabinet, which met with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif in the chair, decided to revoke multiple foreign passports under the Passport Act.

While giving a clarification today, Aurnagzeb said that the meeting of the Federal Cabinet on May 10, 2022, approved the revocation of more than one Pakistani passport.

"News of cancellation of foreign passports was misreported," the minister said. "It is a crime to have two Pakistani passports. The last date for revocation of two Pakistani passports is December 31, 2022."

She added that decision would not apply to foreign citizenships or foreign passports.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/235643...-not-applicable-to-foreign-passports-marriyum

Sounds like they are making this up as they are going along.

 

[Local.Dada]

While this maybe a political move or for personal benefits, logically this should always be the rule.

You can’t be a citizen of 2 countries. Yes you can be a person of origin and given some additional benefits that will not be a conflict with your country of residence but it is foolish to have dual nationalities especially in developing nations.

You can’t have foreign residents in a position to select/elect governments. Maybe individually some of you are super patriotic and have your priorities sorted but isn’t it ironic that Pakistan where foreign conspiracy is always a hot agenda and then you give foreign nationals voting rights and posts in ministries.

 

[Local.Dada]

Yes, let's alienate the smartest and brightest Pakistanis that have the potential to take the country forward. Brilliant idea.

Being brilliant, educated or well off doesn’t really translate to having the same sensibilities of a local actually living in ground realities especially when there is a gulf in value of life between the countries they live in vs country of origin every which way.

 

[Technics 1210]

Before the jealous indigenous Pakistani do pooja and bhangra, read the OP carefully.

Banning Pakistani Passports is not the same as banning overseas Pakistanis from NADRA card.

I travel to Pakistan, show my NADRA card at immigration, and I am in. No Pakistani passport for years! Indigenous jealous Pakistanis are unaware of this protocol and process.

The OP mentions dual passports, not dual nationality, and to think we have doctors who have never worked or paid taxes in their lives, misinterpret the news because they themselves are desperate to flee Pakistan, sums up the indigenous motives of Pakistanis.

 

[MenInG]

Sounds like they are making this up as they are going along.

Think they got spooked and changed their mind. Expected behaviour.

 

[MenInG]

How many of the Sharifs hold Foreign passports

Thus the change in plan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

While this maybe a political move or for personal benefits, logically this should always be the rule.

You can’t be a citizen of 2 countries. Yes you can be a person of origin and given some additional benefits that will not be a conflict with your country of residence but it is foolish to have dual nationalities especially in developing nations.

You can’t have foreign residents in a position to select/elect governments. Maybe individually some of you are super patriotic and have your priorities sorted but isn’t it ironic that Pakistan where foreign conspiracy is always a hot agenda and then you give foreign nationals voting rights and posts in ministries.

Only if you are dumb enough to think conspiracies are somehow genetically inherent in Pakistanis and your own country is immune to such nonsense.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, let's alienate the smartest and brightest Pakistanis that have the potential to take the country forward. Brilliant idea.

But these so-called smartest and brightest people have settled abroad because they make more money and enjoy a better lifestyle. They are not interested in living in Pakistan.

Furthermore, if you put their fake patriotism to test and ask them to choose between Pakistani citizenship and their foreign citizenship, they will opt for the latter.

Therefore, they have chosen to alienate themselves.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

But these so-called smartest and brightest people have settled abroad because they make more money and enjoy a better lifestyle. They are not interested in living in Pakistan.

Furthermore, if you put their fake patriotism to test and ask them to choose between Pakistani citizenship and their foreign citizenship, they will opt for the latter.

Therefore, they have chosen to alienate themselves.

If they have alienated themselves so much, why would they still be ploughing money into Pakistan? How does that even make sense? If you really thought so poorly of foreign Pakistanis you wouldn't be here conversing with us in English, you'd be on an Indian or Pakistani site typing in hindi.

We westerners are often the first to introduce trends and new technology to Pakistan, you yourself are a prime example of someone who has benefited from that. If it wasn't for us you'd still be watching Mahabarat or Amer Akbar Anthony instead of Game of Thrones.

 

[Hextro]

Being brilliant, educated or well off doesn’t really translate to having the same sensibilities of a local actually living in ground realities especially when there is a gulf in value of life between the countries they live in vs country of origin every which way.

I'm sure they know more about the "ground realities" in Pakistan than people like you who make assumptions on their behalf. Most of these people have close families in Pakistan and they stay in touch with Pakistani politics(perhaps even more so than Pakistanis that live in Pakistan), this is especially true for Pakistanis that live in the gulf. So saying that they have no idea about the ground realities in Pakistan is simply not true.

As I said, the connection Pakistan has with overseas Pakistanis is invaluable and must be expanded upon. The overseas Pakistanis and the youth are the lifeblood of this country.

 

[Hextro]

But these so-called smartest and brightest people have settled abroad because they make more money and enjoy a better lifestyle. They are not interested in living in Pakistan.

Furthermore, if you put their fake patriotism to test and ask them to choose between Pakistani citizenship and their foreign citizenship, they will opt for the latter.

Therefore, they have chosen to alienate themselves.

How about you go and ask them for their citizenship? Or even better how about you conduct a survey and share the results with us on this forum.

 

[Hermoine Green]

It would be brilliant if they can materialize this. This dual citizenship nonsense needs to end.

It would badly expose the fake Pakistanis who feign their patriotism over the internet but if you ask them to choose between Pakistani passport and the foreign passport, 99% of them will pick the latter.

Then they want voting rights as well.

If you have a foreign passport, you are permanently settled abroad and therefore your future generations will have nothing to do with Pakistan, you are not qualified to be considered a Pakistani citizen and you should have no say in how the country is run.

Does it apply to your beloved leaders or NOT? ) You dont even think before writing.

 

[Technics 1210]

I wonder how indigenous PDM supporters who are desperate to flee Pakistan for an overseas life feel about this? I mean the moment they decide to leave Pakistan they know they will have to dump their Pakistani passport and along with it any semblence of patriotism or identity. Aww diddums.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Am I missing something or how will this make a difference if people carry NICOP cards?

The main reason for many having both passports is to save money on Visas. Just get the card.

But the real reason is because the imported government are fearful as they have no outside support.

 

[Hextro]

Does it apply to your beloved leaders or NOT? ) You dont even think before writing.

Technically Pakistan is being ruled by an overseas Pakistani.

 

[James]

This would have been a dreadful idea.

Dual citizenship is a wonderful thing.

 

[Mamoon]

How about you go and ask them for their citizenship? Or even better how about you conduct a survey and share the results with us on this forum.

An online survey will tell us nothing because talk is cheap. Surveys don’t put their loyalty and patriotism to test. Overseas Pakistanis are not prepared to walk the talk.

They will claim that they love Pakistan but yet they are not willing to return to Pakistan and live in the country.

I am talking about the qualified and financially well-off contingent who are living in the West because they make more money and enjoy a better standard of living.

When you ask them why they don’t want to return to Pakistan, they come up with a million excuses and reflections.

Previously, they used to say that we will only return to Pakistan when we finally have an honest leader, but the so-called honest Imran Khan led the country for 3.5 years and no one packed up their bags to come to Pakistan and serve the country.

One particular doctor in USA got carried away and released a video the day Imran was sworn as PM. He claimed that he is quitting his job and will be returning to Pakistan to serve the country and use his experience in USA to help improve the health sector.

I’m sure you have seen the video. He was standing in his scrubs. However, shortly after that video went viral, he was knocked into his senses by his wife and kids. He had to delete the video from his Twitter account and 3.5 years later, he is still working in USA.

It is said that he is still getting trolled and hides his face in public whenever there is a large Pakistani crowd.

 

[Mamoon]

This would have been a dreadful idea.

Dual citizenship is a wonderful thing.

It is an oxymoron. You cannot be loyal to two countries at the same time.

 

[James]

It is an oxymoron. You cannot be loyal to two countries at the same time.

Why not?

Loyalty is not the sole factor also.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It is an oxymoron. You cannot be loyal to two countries at the same time.

Agree. Are you hoping the imports will allow Pakistanis who are against two nation theory and who are inspired by Indians bombing Pakistani children to leave for India with a new blue Indian passport and nationality. Adnan Sami is waiting...

 

[Stewie]

What does loyalty have anything to do with it? And yes you can be loyal to two countries or three or four.
who is anybody to decide on this matter?

 

[Mamoon]

Why not?

Loyalty is not the sole factor also.

I beg to differ - loyalty is the most fundamental trait of being a citizen.

 

[Hextro]

An online survey will tell us nothing because talk is cheap. Surveys don’t put their loyalty and patriotism to test. Overseas Pakistanis are not prepared to walk the talk.

They will claim that they love Pakistan but yet they are not willing to return to Pakistan and live in the country.

I am talking about the qualified and financially well-off contingent who are living in the West because they make more money and enjoy a better standard of living.

When you ask them why they don’t want to return to Pakistan, they come up with a million excuses and reflections.

Previously, they used to say that we will only return to Pakistan when we finally have an honest leader, but the so-called honest Imran Khan led the country for 3.5 years and no one packed up their bags to come to Pakistan and serve the country.

One particular doctor in USA got carried away and released a video the day Imran was sworn as PM. He claimed that he is quitting his job and will be returning to Pakistan to serve the country and use his experience in USA to help improve the health sector.

I’m sure you have seen the video. He was standing in his scrubs. However, shortly after that video went viral, he was knocked into his senses by his wife and kids. He had to delete the video from his Twitter account and 3.5 years later, he is still working in USA.

It is said that he is still getting trolled and hides his face in public whenever there is a large Pakistani crowd.

How do you write so much stuff with such little meaning? You could've gotten your point across in two sentences, tops.

"Talk is cheap" unless it's you that's talking right? You are making assumptions on behalf of people you don't know. You know very well that there are millions of Pakistanis that live abroad yet you talk about them as if they're a couple of hundred people. You can't make assumptions on behalf of over a million people let alone tens of millions. Stop generalizing people.

Using the example of one person to represent millions is simply ridiculous. Find a practical way of judging a collective group of people's patriotism if you think surveys are useless.

"It is said that he is still getting trolled and hides his face in public whenever there is a large Pakistani crowd."

Sounds like almost every PDM member ever.

 

[Bewal Express]

I beg to differ - loyalty is the most fundamental trait of being a citizen.

Loyalty to a country but your loyalty is to the mafia. A mafia that has destroyed PK over decades and has put us close to bankruptcy in 3 weeks. A mafia that can't make decisions because they fear losing elections, a mafia led by a fugitive with all his billions abroad. Who is more dangerous to PK me or NS? Who has never taken a penny from PK me or NS?

 

[Savak]

I beg to differ - loyalty is the most fundamental trait of being a citizen.

Lol which you obviously lack

 

[Hermoine Green]

Technically Pakistan is being ruled by an overseas Pakistani.

Thats why he skipped mine questions

So [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] should not be considered Pakistani because he is holding dual passports. But all the Sharifs, Zardaris etc holding dual passports, are perfectly best for leading this country

An overseas Pakistani cant vote, but they can lead the country )

This dude is hilarious

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: The government has approved an amnesty scheme for people holding two passports and the same number of computerised national identity cards (CNICs), asking them to surrender one passport and CNIC to avoid legal action.

A summary sent by the Interior Ministry to the federal government for the amnesty scheme was approved in the last cabinet meeting, said a statement, according to The News.

The amnesty scheme will remain effective until December 31.

The Section 6 (1) (j) of the Passports Act reads: "A person shall be punishable with imprisonment which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both if they obtain more than one passport either in the same or different names by concealing the fact of already being in possession of a passport."

A spokesperson for the ministry said that legal action would be taken against people who did not surrender their illegal identity cards and travel documents.

He said Pakistanis living in Pakistan and abroad could benefit from the scheme, adding that the ministry has also directed the department concerned to publicise the amnesty scheme properly.

Earlier, the federal government had announced six schemes from 2006 to 2016, and as a result, over 12,000 passports were cancelled. According to the interior ministry statistics, the latest move would help cancel over 38,000 Pakistani passports.

GEO

 

[msb314]

Am I missing something or how will this make a difference if people carry NICOP cards?

The main reason for many having both passports is to save money on Visas. Just get the card.

But the real reason is because the imported government are fearful as they have no outside support.

For the case of overseas Pakistanis - they would be able to continue using their NICCOP + Pakistani Passport when visiting Pakistan.

For the case of dual citizens - they would of course have to surrender their Pakistani passport along with their NICCOP but could of course apply for a POC with their sole foreign passport to enter Pakistan

 

[MenInG]

For the case of overseas Pakistanis - they would be able to continue using their NICCOP + Pakistani Passport when visiting Pakistan.

For the case of dual citizens - they would of course have to surrender their Pakistani passport along with their NICCOP but could of course apply for a POC with their sole foreign passport to enter Pakistan

They arent doing this at the moment, presumably because of its nonsensical nature.

At the moment, they have asked people to surrender their duplicate id cards and passports which is a bit of a no-brainer.

 

[Mamoon]

Loyalty to a country but your loyalty is to the mafia. A mafia that has destroyed PK over decades and has put us close to bankruptcy in 3 weeks. A mafia that can't make decisions because they fear losing elections, a mafia led by a fugitive with all his billions abroad. Who is more dangerous to PK me or NS? Who has never taken a penny from PK me or NS?

Lol which you obviously lack

I am loyal to Pakistan but it is not by choice. Pakistan is the only country on earth that I am a citizen of.

Those who hold carry UK and Canadian passports cannot talk about their loyalty towards Pakistan - their loyalty is towards their adopted country.

These people are unqualified to be considered Pakistani citizens.

 

[MenInG]

I am loyal to Pakistan but it is not by choice. Pakistan is the only country on earth that I am a citizen of.

Those who hold carry UK and Canadian passports cannot talk about their loyalty towards Pakistan - their loyalty is towards their adopted country.

These people are unqualified to be considered Pakistani citizens.

This is my personal view.

I think your many other posts have indicated that your "loyalties" do not lie with Pakistan - afraid your opinions on loyalty really cannot be consider genuine due to your self professed beliefs about Pakistan and its people etc.

Better if you argue this from a neutral point of view to give your opinion more weight.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I beg to differ - loyalty is the most fundamental trait of being a citizen.

Well, I have to disagree a little here.

I am an American, Canadian & Australian citizen..

My loyalty is with Australia over the other 2 countries as I am settled here with my family, wife and kids.

 

[Bewal Express]

Thats why he skipped mine questions

So [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] should not be considered Pakistani because he is holding dual passports. But all the Sharifs, Zardaris etc holding dual passports, are perfectly best for leading this country

An overseas Pakistani cant vote, but they can lead the country )

This dude is hilarious

I bet that went above the head of [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]. Logic isnt a point with him. Anyone can rule as long as he is a criminal

 

[Bewal Express]

I am loyal to Pakistan but it is not by choice. Pakistan is the only country on earth that I am a citizen of.

Those who hold carry UK and Canadian passports cannot talk about their loyalty towards Pakistan - their loyalty is towards their adopted country.

These people are unqualified to be considered Pakistani citizens.

Your lies are here for all to see-I have never seen a single post where you have shown an indication of your loyalty to PK and its you that has benefitted from its system. Our fathers had to travel 1000s of miles to find a job as otherwise they would have been landless peasants. My children, one of whom has never even been to PK hurts when PK hurts, you celebrate when PK hurts.

 

[Abstraction1]

It would be brilliant if they can materialize this. This dual citizenship nonsense needs to end.

It would badly expose the fake Pakistanis who feign their patriotism over the internet but if you ask them to choose between Pakistani passport and the foreign passport, 99% of them will pick the latter.

Then they want voting rights as well.

If you have a foreign passport, you are permanently settled abroad and therefore your future generations will have nothing to do with Pakistan, you are not qualified to be considered a Pakistani citizen and you should have no say in how the country is run.

The very leaders of Pakistan are not even in the country.

And the fabric of Pakistan Society includes the International Pakistan community and remittances back home.

It is the very definition of fascism to decide who can and cannot be "Pakistani".

 

[MenInG]

The contribution of overseas Pakistanis to the economy is much bigger than the entire exports of the country while they are protecting the country from default by remitting record remittances of over $30bn.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1696078/highest-single-day-inflow-takes-rda-total-to-45bn

 

[Savak]

You can be a US Canadian Citizen but people here have a issue with people being a Pakistani Citizen and a Citizen of a Western Country.

 

[Bewal Express]

The contribution of overseas Pakistanis to the economy is much bigger than the entire exports of the country while they are protecting the country from default by remitting record remittances of over $30bn.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1696078/highest-single-day-inflow-takes-rda-total-to-45bn

But we aren't worthy to vote, although it's our remittances that stop a total collapse because the Sharifs,Zardari’s and their coterie of crooks have looted and laundered billions

 

[Local.Dada]

But we aren't worthy to vote, although it's our remittances that stop a total collapse because the Sharifs,Zardari’s and their coterie of crooks have looted and laundered billions

Again your remittances are not for the govt. it is for your own family/ friends back home.

An overseas person is expected to send money to his family but if he is sending it to keep the govt afloat than the problem is way more than some political corruption no matter how bad it is.

I seriously don’t understand this. I live in the USA. I have seen 3 Indian govts change. I have sent money to India and I have invested in property but it never crossed my mind once that I should hold the Indian govt accountable for anything. I don’t even know why. Sure I blamed the banks/ financial system for exchange rates and in some cases ensured that the people whom I sent money to used it adequately for their benefit. That’s about it.

It blows my mind every time I see the argument that we send money to Pakistan so the govt owes us.

No country is accountable for the day to life of a person living in another country. If you really want to serve and change things, quit your job and work for the upliftment of your people on the ground. If money is the way you can help then raise significant money that solves a big enough issue for the govt and then hold the govt accountable.

If india makes dual voting I would call it stupid too and guess what based on what I see that would immensely benefit the current Indian regime too.

 

[Bewal Express]

Again your remittances are not for the govt. it is for your own family/ friends back home.

An overseas person is expected to send money to his family but if he is sending it to keep the govt afloat than the problem is way more than some political corruption no matter how bad it is.

I seriously don’t understand this. I live in the USA. I have seen 3 Indian govts change. I have sent money to India and I have invested in property but it never crossed my mind once that I should hold the Indian govt accountable for anything. I don’t even know why. Sure I blamed the banks/ financial system for exchange rates and in some cases ensured that the people whom I sent money to used it adequately for their benefit. That’s about it.

It blows my mind every time I see the argument that we send money to Pakistan so the govt owes us.

No country is accountable for the day to life of a person living in another country. If you really want to serve and change things, quit your job and work for the upliftment of your people on the ground. If money is the way you can help then raise significant money that solves a big enough issue for the govt and then hold the govt accountable.

If india makes dual voting I would call it stupid too and guess what based on what I see that would immensely benefit the current Indian regime too.

We have a govt run from London, so your argument fails at the 1st hurdle. Try harder

 

[Local.Dada]

We have a govt run from London, so your argument fails at the 1st hurdle. Try harder

Who is we? I thought you are a British Citizen so obviously “your” govt will run from London.

Your first duty is to pay tax to “your” government in UK and yes if they don’t deliver you can complain. You are sending “your” money to “your” people in Pakistan, it’s not the govts problem, it’s a problem between you and the people who need the money.

Anyways my point is not the credibility or ethics of Pakistan govt, it has to do with this mentality that I send some change back home so the govt has to be answerable to me. There are a lot of loopholes in that logic is what I am pointing out.

 

[Bewal Express]

Who is we? I thought you are a British Citizen so obviously “your” govt will run from London.

Your first duty is to pay tax to “your” government in UK and yes if they don’t deliver you can complain. You are sending “your” money to “your” people in Pakistan, it’s not the govts problem, it’s a problem between you and the people who need the money.

Anyways my point is not the credibility or ethics of Pakistan govt, it has to do with this mentality that I send some change back home so the govt has to be answerable to me. There are a lot of loopholes in that logic is what I am pointing out.

Well if you don't know, why comment

 

[the Great Khan]

Again your remittances are not for the govt. it is for your own family/ friends back home.

An overseas person is expected to send money to his family but if he is sending it to keep the govt afloat than the problem is way more than some political corruption no matter how bad it is.

I seriously don’t understand this. I live in the USA. I have seen 3 Indian govts change. I have sent money to India and I have invested in property but it never crossed my mind once that I should hold the Indian govt accountable for anything. I don’t even know why. Sure I blamed the banks/ financial system for exchange rates and in some cases ensured that the people whom I sent money to used it adequately for their benefit. That’s about it.

It blows my mind every time I see the argument that we send money to Pakistan so the govt owes us.

No country is accountable for the day to life of a person living in another country. If you really want to serve and change things, quit your job and work for the upliftment of your people on the ground. If money is the way you can help then raise significant money that solves a big enough issue for the govt and then hold the govt accountable.

If india makes dual voting I would call it stupid too and guess what based on what I see that would immensely benefit the current Indian regime too.

then you dont know the basics of democracy..the mother of democracies the uk allows overeseas brits to vote in all elections..so why cant pakistanis abroad?? the rest of your post is not worth my attention..

 

[the Great Khan]

Well if you don't know, why comment

because sanghis and pakistaniphobes like him think their opinion holds equal weight to ours..so they will just open the hole under their noses and spout whatever they see fit because well "they have the right to an opinion"..and so forth..

 

[daytrader]

Details of civil servants with dual nationalities sought

Details of civil servants with dual nationalities sought

Senate panel also tells Establishment Division to provide names of judges and generals with foreign citizenship

ISLAMABAD:
The Senate Standing Committee on Cabinet Secretariat on Thursday directed the Establishment Division to provide details of all the civil servants having dual citizenship in the next meeting.

The committee has also sought details of such citizens, who were working in the law and justice and defence ministries – meaning details of the judges and generals having dual nationalities.

The directions have come amid speculation that at least four federal secretaries and a few serving judges and officials of the armed forces have foreign nationalities, two members of the committee told The Express Tribune.

The committee, while deliberating upon the Civil Servants (Amendment) Bill, 2022, moved by Senator Afnan Ullah Khan, also discussed PTI chairman and deposed prime minister Imran Khan’s suggestion to sack all civil servants, who had not quit foreign citizenship within six months once the civil servants act was amended.

Senator Afnan’s bill proposed that a civil servant holding dual nationality or citizenship of any foreign country should not be entitled for appointment.

The officials said that the word “bureaucrats” in the bill would create confusion and misunderstanding and should be removed. The committee was also informed that no new induction, except from Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) in the services, would take place unless the dual citizen surrendered their foreign citizenship.

Senator Rana Maqbool Ahmad, who chaired the committee meeting, told The Express Tribune the former premier had suggested through a summary that the new hiring of the civil servants having dual nationality should not be entertained, adding those already serving should be given six months to quit their foreign citizenship or government service.

“The committee is not bound by any instructions; it has to apply its mind as the decision will have an impact on the intellectual input,” Senator Ahmad said, adding that the decision would also have an impact on country’s foreign remittances as many officials in health, education and other sectors have foreign nationalities.

Ahmad said the exemption for AJK citizens was also discussed as most of them had foreign nationalities.

During the meeting, Jamaat-e-Islami Senator Mushtaq Ahmad Khan suggested that civil servants should be stopped from leaving the country following their retirement after they received dual citizenship.

Chairman Ahmed noted that the country invested in these civil servants and they fleeing the country after their retirement with their family is a matter that should be looked into.

The chairman also asked the mover of the bill to work on the matter within the existing bill and present it before the committee.

Following a detailed discussion, the committee deferred the consideration of the bill till the next meeting. It also decided to deliberate on the suggestion put forward by former PM Imran in the next sitting.

Senators Saifullah Sarwar Khan Nyazee, Kamil Ali Agha, Sarfaraz Ahmed Bugti, Khalida Ateeb, Moula Bux Chandio, Mushtaq Ahmad Khan, Eng Rukhsana Zuberi, and Naseebullah Bazai participated in the meeting. The Establishment Division secretary, Pakistan Tourism Development Corporation (PTDC) and other relevant officials were also in attendance.

Express Tribune