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Shoaib Malik : The most naturally gifted Pakistani batsman of recent times?

It seems to be a young squad, i don't mind that. Is he in the ODIs squad?
 
Lol why would he be in the squad. He has failed in every format of the game for last five years for pakistan. Performance in a mickey mouse league wont bring him back thankfully.
 
What we need basically is a combination of experience and youth.
 
Malik knows how to construct an innings better than most of the current Pak one day players. Play him in he top 4 and he will get runs for the side.
 
yes Malik the new flavor of the month would have showed these spinners their true aukaat like he is did in WC 2014.

Malik the destroyer & the slayer and Kami Kobra the best opener batsman we have should return so that people with the memory of goldfish can go through the same cycle again. We are always running around circles.
 
He is in top form but he has always been a beast in domestic leagues with little substance in global events.
 
Every player gets better the more time they spend in the middle.

Fact is Shoaib has been found to be at the bottom rung of talent for international players. He'd make BD & Zim and no-one else.

For gods sake move on.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Robin Peterson said how the hell can Malik not make our team
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Yeah, he must be seeking a dinner with Sania Mirza now according to haters. Now even respected experts are calling for Shoaib's return. He totally deserves it this time around. Ever since CPL, he's been a different beast.
 
yes lets bring back the gloried tailender whos done naff all in intl cricket for the last 4-5 years - some fans here are trolls or have memories of a goldfish
 
Zaz said:
yes lets bring back the gloried tailender whos done naff all in intl cricket for the last 4-5 years - some fans here are trolls or have memories of a goldfish
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freelancer is an indian troll and others have surely the memory of goldfish.
 
We all know how he has been performing from the last 5 years. But he really showed in CPL what he could do when he is on song. Malik should have been the replacement for Hafeez and they sent Sami and Babar. Although Babar is a good bowler but we needed a good player of spin.

Sent from my GT-I9105
 
I refuse to believe that on current form, Malik doesn't deserve to be in this Pakistan team. He has improved, the confidence is back.
 
I actually think Malik at 5 might make some runs in the WC

nothing too amazing but better than what we got right now
 
This may be controversial...but

Any serious followers of pak cricket and players will know on merit malik deserves a spot back in the limited overs team specially as he has been a scoring well for his franchise teams and a good rate, he would have been a much better option them shafiq in the team.
 
Shoaib Malik is better than Younis, Misbah, etc. MALIK FOR CAPTAIN!

We need Malik in the team for many reasons. We all saw his form return in the Champion League, but there are things Malik can do that the others can't

Firstly, Malik's proportion of caught behinds, leg befores, and bowled are less than Younis and Misbah, in both one day's and tests. This shows how good Malik is against quality bowling and that the bowlers just can't get him out. Against tougher countries like Australia, etc, Malik is a better bet than Younis in test, and Misbah in ODI's.

He can play the ball into the gaps, and get boundaries as well. He won't run away, like Younis conveniently withdrawing against a tough team again. He's a team player.

The most successful domestic captain in Pakistan, and has led Sialkot to many wins. His fielding is on a level with Jonty Rhodes, in my opinion, and we need Malik for many such reasons

What Malik has also done is open in tests, and his average is greater than many of our greats like Hanif Muhammad. This shows he has good technique against pace.

In matches Malik played in the tour to England, he had the second highest average but was still dropped.

This murder of merit must end, we need Malik back!
 
Pete Rose said:
The only thing controversial about the op is that he believes Fawad still merits a place in the line up
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It's funny how you jump on one match for one and then for others it's as though they are "class".

Asad Shafiq isn't class. He's overrated as well. He has decent footwork but bad hands and he doesn't pick spots right.

After a 29 by him you're all for him after his umpteenth failures. He can't even score against Bangali trundlers and you're telling him or Malik to replace Fawad who has. Seriously..
 
Zain said:
Any serious followers of pak cricket and players will know on merit malik deserves a spot back in the limited overs team specially as he has been a scoring well for his franchise teams and a good rate, he would have been a much better option them shafiq in the team.
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This!

About time the selectors do the right thing.
 
High 5!


Why is it that i realize something in advance that my Pakistani friends do later? Bring him back.
 
What is this Sania stuff? Simple stats show how Malik is a more competent batsman against tough opposition and a much better captain than Misbah and Younis.
 
steelo green said:
It's funny how you jump on one match for one and then for others it's as though they are "class".

Asad Shafiq isn't class. He's overrated as well. He has decent footwork but bad hands and he doesn't pick spots right.

After a 29 by him you're all for him after his umpteenth failures. He can't even score against Bangali trundlers and you're telling him or Malik to replace Fawad who has. Seriously..
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My friend, you can call out my inconsistencies if you want and bring up the stats as you should but having seen Fawad alam play since debut, I would not having in any line up for Pakistan. Now what I think matters for little, but the next time you are updating your thread on giving up on Pakistan cricket - it won't because of these other players, it will be the slow painful death of these So called deserving players.
My respect for Pakistani selectors continues to rise for keeping some of the players away for so long
 
MalikFan2015 said:
What is this Sania stuff? Simple stats show how Malik is a more competent batsman against tough opposition and a much better captain than Misbah and Younis.
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Tough opposition?

Averages against teams:

Australia - 22.57
England - 14.3
NZ - 25.18

Kills India does decent well against SA.
 
Malik will definitely be back in the side - the only question is will it be before or after the WC? Or if a few players get injured during the WC an SOS could be sent out and Malik be flown in.
 
Pete Rose said:
My friend, you can call out my inconsistencies if you want and bring up the stats as you should but having seen Fawad alam play since debut, I would not having in any line up for Pakistan. Now what I think matters for little, but the next time you are updating your thread on giving up on Pakistan cricket - it won't because of these other players, it will be the slow painful death of these So called deserving players.
My respect for Pakistani selectors continues to rise for keeping some of the players away for so long
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That's garbage and you know it. Production is what matters. Shafiq looks pretty to the eyes for those 10s and 20s he scores.

Fawad played like trash today but I would pick him over Shafiq any day of the week. Fawad has WON matches. Shafiq has never done that. Even if it was India and SL, that's still more than his overrated pretty boy has ever done.

Laud PCB for awful selection. Go ahead.

Cricket in Pakistan is dying due to lack of quality not the asinine assumption that we are picking guys like Fawad. That century Fawad made is still better than Shafiq has ever done. His career SR of 70 bs 75. That tells the story. Not this arbitrary who looks prettyy to the eyes.

The body of work shows who is effective and who is simply not a good player.

Fawad is just a middle innings anchor, Shafiq is nothing in any facet of the game.
 
Malik's captaincy always prevented our collapses. We always did well against Malik than under this Misbah (Who dropped Malik who is a threat) and Afridi (Played Malik out of position). Between these two, they have ruined Malik's career

Bring him back as captain, just look at these stats. Under Malik, we collapsed to less than 200 a lot less than under Misbah, Afridi or even Imran! Truly our best captain!

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steelo green said:
That's garbage and you know it. Production is what matters. Shafiq looks pretty to the eyes for those 10s and 20s he scores.

Fawad played like trash today but I would pick him over Shafiq any day of the week. Fawad has WON matches. Shafiq has never done that. Even if it was India and SL, that's still more than his overrated pretty boy has ever done.

Laud PCB for awful selection. Go ahead.

Cricket in Pakistan is dying due to lack of quality not the asinine assumption that we are picking guys like Fawad. That century Fawad made is still better than Shafiq has ever done. His career SR of 70 bs 75. That tells the story. Not this arbitrary who looks prettyy to the eyes.

The body of work shows who is effective and who is simply not a good player.

Fawad is just a middle innings anchor, Shafiq is nothing in any facet of the game.
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I have an idea let's put a scarecrow as a middle order batsman, and agree with opposition that they can wast 60 deliveries by bowling at that scarecrow, as long as they don't dismiss him. Then we have no need for fawad.
Do I need to reproduce the Thousands of posts lauding his strike rotation as a key reason for selection.
 
MalikFan2015 said:
Malik's captaincy always prevented our collapses. We always did well against Malik than under this Misbah (Who dropped Malik who is a threat) and Afridi (Played Malik out of position). Between these two, they have ruined Malik's career

Bring him back as captain, just look at these stats. Under Malik, we collapsed to less than 200 a lot less than under Misbah, Afridi or even Imran! Truly our best captain!

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Always felt he was hard done by when he was removed from captaincy in 2009 January. That dented his confidence severely.

Sarfraz
Shehzad
Fawad
Malik (c)
Maqsood
Umar
Hafeez

Looks good when kicking out Afridi
 
steelo green said:
Since when are Indian trundlers tough?
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Oh yeah they are. World #1 ODI team for years and couple of world cups in our trophy cabinet along with a champions trophy. You don't win them without an effective bowling unit.
 
MalikFan2015 said:
Only called trundlers by Younis lovers because Malik did against them what Younis couldn't!
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Actually Yoni did great against us. Indian bowlers are among the best as a pack, perhaps not individually. Whoever does well against us, is a good player.
 
and pace too in fact he is a world beater should be made captain immediately with returning Salman butt as Vice captain.
 
A middle order of Misbah-Malik-Umar sounds very solid to me as well. Agreed with the above poster.
 
I just hope the management isn't reading all these Malik thread which are randomly popping up from nowhere :facepalm:
 
Heads must roll now after this whitewash. Shoaib Malik is much much better player than many of these guys. He is a specialist at chasing targets. Tonight again, he could have easily taken Pakistan home.

Afridi! I hope you're listening. Malik is the guy need while you build a new team for the world cup.
 
He will not only make middle order stable but he will finish the match, the only finisher pakistan has right now. He comes at 4 and takes his time and finishes the match. I remember him hitting jadeja down the ground for six in last over and also to watson one time etc. So he should get in squad against newzealand before world cup, he will be needed in world cup to chip in with 6 or 7 overs also
 
When pakistan was surounded by controversy Misbah came out of no where to captain pakistan , he wasnt in the team pakistan team, he was kicked out of team, He was playing domestic when he knew he going to captain pakistan, Likewise shoaib can do.
 
the problem is that if you include malik in the squad, he is automatically in the playing XI

The thing is that if he plays in fawad's place, PCB is setting an example that even if you perform you have to sit out, because a senior player comes in

If Malik is willing to sit out in a few games, then I would include him in the WC squad

The 17 that I would select for WC would be as follows

1. Ahmed Shehzad
2. Sarfaraz
3. Hafeez
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Younis Khan
6. Misbah
7. Shoaib Malik
8. Fawad Alam
9. Sohaib Maqsood
10. Afridi
11. Umar Akmal
12. Saeed Ajmal (if cleared, if not then Raza Hassan or Babar)
13. Umar Gul
14. Irfan
15. Wahab
16. Irfan
17. Junaid Khan

Strategy is to play 3 fast bowlers all the time. One specialist spinner (Raza/Ajmal/Babar) and 2 allrounders (in hafeez and Afridi)

from the playing XI a few spaces are secured, whether we like it or not

1) Misbah
2) Hafeez
3) Ahmed Shehzad
4) Irfan
5) Afridi
6) Saeed Ajmal if he is cleared

The rest are the 5 to 6 places you can play around with

And I think Malik can fit in the middle order if Fawad or Sohaib Maqsood arent in form in the New Zealand ODIs and that will decide the fate
 
kamz said:
1. Ahmed Shehzad
2. Sarfaraz
3. Hafeez
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Younis Khan
6. Misbah
7.Shoaib Malik
8. Fawad Alam
9. Sohaib Maqsood
10. Afridi
11. Umar Akmal
12. Saeed Ajmal (if cleared, if not then Raza Hassan or Babar)
13. Umar Gul
14. Irfan
15. Wahab
16. Irfan
17. Junaid Khan
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pakistanigoneaussie said:
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hahahaha :) love the gif bro. mind you i said the 17 man squad not the playing XI and YK at least has the decency to sit out as a 12th or 13th man.

And let me put it this way, we can all talk about that fawad or sohaib or misbah or umar akmal should play at number 3

but the hardcore fact is (which by the way no media will tell you) that nobody is willing to play in that position except hafeez, YK and Asad Shafiq.

And if Hafeez is opening, you should have a back up of your number 3 spot.
 
He will make your middle stable and he is the best finisher in pakistan right now.
 
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