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Should Asad Shafiq be replaced by Mohammad Nawaz if he fails in the 1st Test?

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Every team needs a batsman who is willing to do anything for the team's

cause. While settled batting line-ups may be the order of the day, there will

always come a time when it is tested and a change is required. And when you

have a player who can orchestrate that change, you have all the necessary

tools to succeed irrespective of the conditions..But it seems like asad shafiq

is not enjoying the swapping of batting position as it reflects in recent

performance during west indies test series he failed to replicate his

good performance of england test series at batting at number 4 position than

this month in nz test series he was pushed down to his original number 6

position in which he once again fails to perform and last test batting at 4 also

was not good for asad shafiq

Matches

5

Runs

254

Ave

28.22

50s
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On the other Hand Nawaz is not the ideal replacement for asad shafiq

because Their will be seven left handed in AUs side but i think Nawaz is

Not a wicket talker he should be used as a support bowler for yasir

shah who should bowl Economically and provide a rest to fast bowler and

score 30 to 40 runs batting at 6 or 7.3 Fast bowler and 2 spin bowler should be lineup if Asad fails in first

test
 
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I like your thinking, but I respectfully disagree with your solution.

I totally agree that there should be a part-time fifth bowler.

But there are two problems this time around.

Firstly, Australia's 7 left-handers demand an off-spinner, not another bowler bringing it in to them.

Secondly, the pace and bounce of Aussie wickets in my opinion make it practically certain that Younis and Misbah will not score any runs. That means that Babar and Shafiq become the key batsmen in the side. If Shafiq fails in Australia then Pakistan loses.
 
I like your thinking, but I respectfully disagree with your solution.

I totally agree that there should be a part-time fifth bowler.

But there are two problems this time around.

Firstly, Australia's 7 left-handers demand an off-spinner, not another bowler bringing it in to them.

Secondly, the pace and bounce of Aussie wickets in my opinion make it practically certain that Younis and Misbah will not score any runs. That means that Babar and Shafiq become the key batsmen in the side. If Shafiq fails in Australia then Pakistan loses.

I think you Know better than me You have to be on your top of game in batting to handle aus pace attack in

Aus looking at dismissal of asad and up coming series it will take extra ordinary effort to get back in form

which seems unlikely and would drop him for 2nd test(if asad fail in 1st test) and take a gamble on nawaz

who canot do worse than out of form asad shafiq
 
We have invested in Shafiq for a long time now and he has performed at number 6 in the past we shouldn't forgot that. This would be my team for the first test in Australia:

1. Azhar Ali
2. Sami Aslam
3. Babar azam
4. Younis Khan
5. Misbah ul Haq
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Yasir shah
9. Sohail Khan
10. Amir
11. Wahab riaz
 
Nawaz is not good enough to make Pakistan's second eleven and here you are talking about him replacing one of our best batsman (although our best is highly mediocre by world standards).


Nawaz needs serious work on all three facets of his game to find a spot in the test side. Inzi made a mistake by selecting him, but his ego is preventing him from rectifying that mistake.
 
We are jumping the gun too early. Shafiq was our best batsmen back in SA tour few years back. He has problem with moving ball, but plays fast bowlers and bounce very well(relative to other batsmen). I would not tinker with him right now. And Nawaz cannot play in UAE, forget about AUS, why he was selected baffles me :facepalm:

We need to find place for Sharjeel in the team, but how can we play Sami, Babar, Shafiq and Sharjeel at same time?? - YK will not sit out, that's a headache. We cannot afford both YK and Misbah, they are champion of spin but weak on bounce, younger players are better equipped, but that boat has sailed long time ago :(
 
Why would you want to replace a proper batsman with someone who's no better than a tailender at international level ?
 
Nawaz is not the answer. Hafeez is your man to play in Australia. Drop one of Younis or Asad, whoever does not perform in the first test.
 
No stick with Asad he's a better batsmen then Nawaz. If we can't find a international class all rounder we have no choice but to stick with 4 bowlers. I think Nawaz has potential but he's more suited for UAE and conditions in Asia.
 
No.

Id want a batsman

Problem is the only replacement available ie Rizwan has shown that he has a ways to go before he can be deemed as good enough for this level

Sharjeel is another hit and miss (most likely a miss)

So due to lack of even remotely competent options Id stick with Shafiq for this series.

Ill do this with one thing in mind though considering the circumstances.

We should accept that Pakistan will lose the series most likely and that will be the result with or without Shafiq. Basically a negative result is expected and it won't be due to Shafiq and would be a collective failure.

Point is whether we play Shafiq or replace him with unprepared and frankly mediocre alternatives, the ceiling of the best possible output from this batsman is whatever Shafiq's performances will be. We are living in a fool's world if we think someone will magically drop in and do significantly better. The chances of that are almost nil.

So relatively speaking there is no huge downside to playing Shafiq regardless of performance because if he does well then great for us thus it will help us and if he fails then it doesnt change the equation much because any alternative who comes in at this time will also spectacularly fail.

A lot has been invested in Shafiq so it would be stupid to drop him especially considering no one else is in reserve. And we will be able to find his full worth too and make a final decision.

If he does great then he remains an important part of our long term plans and the batting lineup will be built around him post Misbah and YK retirement

But if he fails then we know for sure that he is at best a decent batsmen and def will not graduate to anywhere near the upper tier batsmen and that maybe he should be dropped..We can make a call then.

Shafiq gives us utility in Asia and he can either play there or if we can find a batsman who can score in UAE as well as Shafiq then that player can come in and we can work with him in the hope that he performs abroad aswell.

So basically as far as I'm concerned this is a do-or-die series for Shafiq
 
Not Nawaz, but Rizwan or Sharjeel.

Remember, Rizwan was not out during the last day debacle against the Kiwi's and he deserves to be given another chance, for keeping his composure and not giving away his wicket, whilst everyone else caved in under the pressure and gave it away, so there is definitely something in him and we need to see more of him.
 
Why would you want to replace a proper batsman with someone who's no better than a tailender at international level ?

The guy has probably not seen Nawaz bat, Shafiq is a quality bat who is out form. He will come back to form but Nawaz is a tailender, who will remain poor.
 
Nawaz shouldn't be in PAK A team for FC tour of AUS. Honest question - in longer version of the game, why should I take Nawaz over our Taijul?

Inzi picked him for ANZ tour, that too against 7 Lefties in Aussie line-up - therefore, must be some reason for that, but not sure, if Nawaz should make the team over Asad .............. as a spinner against 7 lefties!!!!
 
Every team needs a batsman who is willing to do anything for the team's

cause. While settled batting line-ups may be the order of the day, there will

always come a time when it is tested and a change is required. And when you

have a player who can orchestrate that change, you have all the necessary

tools to succeed irrespective of the conditions..But it seems like asad shafiq

is not enjoying the swapping of batting position as it reflects in recent

performance during west indies test series he failed to replicate his

good performance of england test series at batting at number 4 position than

this month in nz test series he was pushed down to his original number 6

position in which he once again fails to perform and last test batting at 4 also

was not good for asad shafiq

Matches

5

Runs

254

Ave

28.22

50s
3​
On the other Hand Nawaz is not the ideal replacement for asad shafiq

because Their will be seven left handed in AUs side but i think Nawaz is

Not a wicket talker he should be used as a support bowler for yasir

shah who should bowl Economically and provide a rest to fast bowler and

score 30 to 40 runs batting at 6 or 7.3 Fast bowler and 2 spin bowler should be lineup if Asad fails in first

test

If the replacement is Mohammad Hafeez then I would replace Asad Shafiq otherwise no.
 
Nawaz shouldn't be in PAK A team for FC tour of AUS. Honest question - in longer version of the game, why should I take Nawaz over our Taijul?

Inzi picked him for ANZ tour, that too against 7 Lefties in Aussie line-up - therefore, must be some reason for that, but not sure, if Nawaz should make the team over Asad .............. as a spinner against 7 lefties!!!!

Pak selectors always select at least 1 player on a tour who does not make sense at all on that tour and basically go on a paid vacation. Inzi has selected Nawaz as that player.
 
Pak selectors always select at least 1 player on a tour who does not make sense at all on that tour and basically go on a paid vacation. Inzi has selected Nawaz as that player.

There are 5 such players that doesn't merit - I might have 1/2 personal preference, but still at least 4.

1. There is no reason to pick Nawaz - PAK is never going to play 2 spinners in AUS. Therefore this selection has absolutely no merit - I would have picked a 2nd specialist spinner to cover Yasir's injury - either another leggi, or an Offie against 6/7 lefties (may be Ajmal); but NEVER a SLAO Spinner for this tour against AUS, with a D/N Test.

2. YK has no more place in AUS - I have seen what I needed to see in last 3 Tests. If he doesn't retire, I would have bargained with him - he'll get enough Tests in Asia to cross 10K runs, but he'll take a temporary retirement from AUS/WI tour - I would have picked Amin or Salhuddin in his spot

3. Rizwan is a wastage as 2nd WK - played a horrible 1st ball in Test, then bettered it with a single on 1st ball of the over in 2nd innings. I will pick KAkmal as 2nd WK, who might have played as specialist bat at 5 (dropping Misbah at 6 & bringing Asad at 4).

4. IF PAK is to play with 4 bowler strategy, NO WAY Amir, Imran, Sohail, Rahat & Wahab can survive 45 overs/Test - in that case, they should have taken at least 1 beast of burden, if not 2 - Hamza for Imran, who is absolute useless in AUS wickets. Not sure about Asif's fitness - but it can't be worse than Sohail, but I keep fingers crossed for this one

5. This team is gun barrel straight, when it comes to playing combination - it can be as monotonous as 3 left-arm pacers & a leggi against 6/7 left-handers - from combination, I can tell that, PAK is starting with 100 runs handicap - something went wrong in NZ last year. There should have been an option for 5-1-2-3 combination as well - not sure, how good MoHa is with ball, therefore won't consider him, but I would have taken Fahim & Yamin for a 17 men squad. That's 5 changes

Sami, Azhar, Sharjeel
Babar, Asad, Misbah, YK (better Amin/Usman)
Sarfu, KAkmal
Yamin, Fahim
Yasir
Amir, Wahab, Rahat, Hamza, 17th man - Sohail (Asif/Ajmal/2nd Leggi)

Good, bad, ugly won't comment now, but this is a settled Test unit - almost 9/10 starters are fixed, hence Inzi's selection is not looking like that ugly - but, Inzi will get 2, max 2.5 out of 10 for this squad from me - could have got, may be up to 5.5/6 - but after losing 2-0 to a mediocre Kiwi team, that too without rain, for the labor of grand 5.5 days - PAK's reputation DEMANDED some changes.
 
Not a like for like replacement.

Shafiq should be replaced by Haris Sohail (when fit) or Fawad Alam.
 
Pak selectors always select at least 1 player on a tour who does not make sense at all on that tour and basically go on a paid vacation. Inzi has selected Nawaz as that player.

Its good public service

Near end of his time Chacha Zulfi got an all expense paid trip to England

And now young Nawaz gets to explore Australia
 
Can you tell on what basis you need Asad Shafiq out of the team ? People on PakPassion looks always in a hurry change him change them change everyone.
 
Early days but I am yet to be convinced that Nawaz is Test quality.
 
why do people rate Nawaz so highly as an all rounder - it is baffling! He is in no way qualified to bat at six for Pakistan. He is not imo good enough to bat at seven either! Slogger with a limited range of strokes and a decidedly wobbly defence. Imad Wasim is a better batsman than him. Decent enough bowler though, has some potential with the ball.
 
Nawaz is utterly useless with the bat. He doesn't have a lot of shots and strikes me as more of a No. 8 tail-ender who can bat to the extent of supporting a set batsman by blocking or getting ones and twos. I wouldn't consider him as a serious batting option.
 
There are 5 such players that doesn't merit - I might have 1/2 personal preference, but still at least 4.

1. There is no reason to pick Nawaz - PAK is never going to play 2 spinners in AUS. Therefore this selection has absolutely no merit - I would have picked a 2nd specialist spinner to cover Yasir's injury - either another leggi, or an Offie against 6/7 lefties (may be Ajmal); but NEVER a SLAO Spinner for this tour against AUS, with a D/N Test.

2. YK has no more place in AUS - I have seen what I needed to see in last 3 Tests. If he doesn't retire, I would have bargained with him - he'll get enough Tests in Asia to cross 10K runs, but he'll take a temporary retirement from AUS/WI tour - I would have picked Amin or Salhuddin in his spot

3. Rizwan is a wastage as 2nd WK - played a horrible 1st ball in Test, then bettered it with a single on 1st ball of the over in 2nd innings. I will pick KAkmal as 2nd WK, who might have played as specialist bat at 5 (dropping Misbah at 6 & bringing Asad at 4).

4. IF PAK is to play with 4 bowler strategy, NO WAY Amir, Imran, Sohail, Rahat & Wahab can survive 45 overs/Test - in that case, they should have taken at least 1 beast of burden, if not 2 - Hamza for Imran, who is absolute useless in AUS wickets. Not sure about Asif's fitness - but it can't be worse than Sohail, but I keep fingers crossed for this one

5. This team is gun barrel straight, when it comes to playing combination - it can be as monotonous as 3 left-arm pacers & a leggi against 6/7 left-handers - from combination, I can tell that, PAK is starting with 100 runs handicap - something went wrong in NZ last year. There should have been an option for 5-1-2-3 combination as well - not sure, how good MoHa is with ball, therefore won't consider him, but I would have taken Fahim & Yamin for a 17 men squad. That's 5 changes

Sami, Azhar, Sharjeel
Babar, Asad, Misbah, YK (better Amin/Usman)
Sarfu, KAkmal
Yamin, Fahim
Yasir
Amir, Wahab, Rahat, Hamza, 17th man - Sohail (Asif/Ajmal/2nd Leggi)

Good, bad, ugly won't comment now, but this is a settled Test unit - almost 9/10 starters are fixed, hence Inzi's selection is not looking like that ugly - but, Inzi will get 2, max 2.5 out of 10 for this squad from me - could have got, may be up to 5.5/6 - but after losing 2-0 to a mediocre Kiwi team, that too without rain, for the labor of grand 5.5 days - PAK's reputation DEMANDED some changes.



That's exactly I feared - Yasir is extremely fit that he survived almost 170 overs in 10 days in UAE; many would have broken down during match. Now, PAK is stuck between Nawaz as prime spinner or play 4 pacers or risk Yasir - I'll say, play 4 pacers at Gabba & use Babar, Asad & Azhar. Hopefully, Yasir will be fit for MCG & SCG.

Nawaz is a nothing cricketer - if my team was selected, it could have been a very balanced unit with 2 pacers, 2 seemers & may be Ajmal the offie or the other Leggi Shahzaib.
 
It's glad to see that people are realizing what mediocrity Nawaz is!

He brings absolutely nothing to the table, neither batting nor bowling. Why would you pick him?

If it was Hafeez, he'd 100% get into the team.
 
Bring in Nawaz if you want to add a walking wicket that will be smacked out of the attack.
 
It's glad to see that people are realizing what mediocrity Nawaz is!

He brings absolutely nothing to the table, neither batting nor bowling. Why would you pick him?

If it was Hafeez, he'd 100% get into the team.

May be that's the reason keeping him (Nawaz) in Squad :13:

When in Asia Cup, Ahmed was dropped & Khurram was picked instead of Look Fakhar, then & then I wrote that Ahmed'll make a come back in WC T20 - the Asia cup selection is catered for that purpose.

Inzi is not Bari or Qasim or Rashid - he knows exactly what he is doing.
 
What a nightmare asad shafiq is having another duck today

atleast nawaz can be played as a fifth bowler to provide a rest to fast bowler and can score 20 runs with bat

than "out of form shafiq"
 
Asad is one of the few batsman in the side that can play big knocks in difficult conditions but right now he's going through a real rut. I don't think it's wise to bring Nawaz in since I don't think he'll be effective anyway.
 
Asad is one of the few batsman in the side that can play big knocks in difficult conditions but right now he's going through a real rut. I don't think it's wise to bring Nawaz in since I don't think he'll be effective anyway.

honestly speaking he needs flat pitches to get back in the form which is what he is missing but it would

be very difficult in Aus against starc and hazlewood to get back in form
 
honestly speaking he needs flat pitches to get back in the form which is what he is missing but it would

be very difficult in Aus against starc and hazlewood to get back in form

Then again he did score a ton against Steyn and Morkel in SA.
 
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