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Should hold a review to discover why India sliding down in international stature: Subramanian Swamy

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Pakistan is still in FATF Grey List and there is no official statement from FATF but looks like indian media and also bjp leaders have already started their rona dhona.

From 'breaking pakistan into 4 pieces'

to 'mission isolating pakistan'

to 'india supa power 2020'

to now 'Namo should hold a review then to discover why India is sliding down in international stature'

Swamy jee as usual looking like an idiot in the end but he and indian media should at least wait for an official FATF statement Pakistan is still in Grey List

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The US and China have decided to get Pakistan off the FATF “Grey List” instead of upgrading to “Black List” —notified Terrorist Nation. This is a huge set back for India if it happens. Namo should hold a review then to discover why we are sliding down in international stature</p>— Subramanian Swamy (@Swamy39) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1220627967891496965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Why is this guy held as an intelllectual among many Indians?
 
Also this guy is scoring an own goal?

Is he saying that Pakistan being on the grey list was due to indian lobbying and designs rather than Pakistan being on that list due to its own decisions and misadventures?

How is he linking India’s influence and international stature to whether pakistan is ona FATF list? Doesn’t make sense
 
Why is this guy held as an intelllectual among many Indians?

His Bio says Harvard Ph.D in Economics and 8.5m followers on Twitter but just a few days ago he came up with this suggestion:

Goddess Lakshmi on currency notes can improve Rupee value: Subramanian Swamy

Subramanian Swamy on Thursday said that the only way to improve the condition of the Indian currency is to inscribe the image of Goddess Lakshmi on banknotes.

While answering a question about an image of God Ganesha on the Indonesian currency, the BJP leader said, "I am in favour of placing the image of goddess Lakshmi on Rs 10,000 currency notes. Lord Ganesha removes obstacles. Indonesia has also recovered from the crisis by placing the idol of Ganesha on its currency notes. Nobody should feel bad about this," he said after addressing a lecture series titled 'Swami Vivekananda Vyakhyanmala' in Madhya Pradesh's Khandwa district.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ue-subramanian-swamy/articleshow/73295228.cms
 
Also this guy is scoring an own goal?

Is he saying that Pakistan being on the grey list was due to indian lobbying and designs rather than Pakistan being on that list due to its own decisions and misadventures?

How is he linking India’s influence and international stature to whether pakistan is ona FATF list? Doesn’t make sense

Just a politicians being politician.


Also iSoLaTiOn IsOlAtIoN chant is getting old now.

Pakistan and IK should focus on their own agenda: the welfare of average Pakistani!
 
Also this guy is scoring an own goal?

Is he saying that Pakistan being on the grey list was due to indian lobbying and designs rather than Pakistan being on that list due to its own decisions and misadventures?

How is he linking India’s influence and international stature to whether pakistan is ona FATF list? Doesn’t make sense

He is the Indian version of Zaid Hamid
 
Just a politicians being politician.


Also iSoLaTiOn IsOlAtIoN chant is getting old now.

Pakistan and IK should focus on their own agenda: the welfare of average Pakistani!

Pakistan, IK and Army are focusing on Pakistan's agenda.

IK alone has been able to dismantle India's propaganda, this alone, itself, is one of the biggest achievement of current Pak Government, considering the influence and lobbying India has on countries that shape up opinion of different organization.
 
Soon we will have cult followers of the corrupt toola coming on here and writing five page long rants
 
On this person, his tweets are for domestic gullible hate groups and BJP consumption, no one else is listening or paying attention to him.
 
Pakistan is still in FATF Grey List and there is no official statement from FATF but looks like indian media and also bjp leaders have already started their rona dhona.

From 'breaking pakistan into 4 pieces'

to 'mission isolating pakistan'

to 'india supa power 2020'

to now 'Namo should hold a review then to discover why India is sliding down in international stature'

Swamy jee as usual looking like an idiot in the end but he and indian media should at least wait for an official FATF statement Pakistan is still in Grey List

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The US and China have decided to get Pakistan off the FATF “Grey List” instead of upgrading to “Black List” —notified Terrorist Nation. This is a huge set back for India if it happens. Namo should hold a review then to discover why we are sliding down in international stature</p>— Subramanian Swamy (@Swamy39) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1220627967891496965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Swamy is being naive here. Trump wants a peace deal in Afghanistan this year, and Pakistan is critical for that.

“International stature” is bakwaas. Keep reducing unnecessary regulations, making India more attractive for foreign investors, GDP growing, pulling more of the population out of poverty, security for all citizens and the rest will take of itself.
 
Swamy is being naive here. Trump wants a peace deal in Afghanistan this year, and Pakistan is critical for that.

“International stature” is bakwaas. Keep reducing unnecessary regulations, making India more attractive for foreign investors, GDP growing, pulling more of the population out of poverty, security for all citizens and the rest will take of itself.

It's a win-win for Pakistan if it happens because we are the biggest beneficiary if Taliban and US finally reach an agreement here. FATF white listing will just be a bonus.
 
Yeh Indian media humen itna khush kyun ker raha he? I will wait for a month and official statement before believing anything because just a couple of month ago Pakistan was isolated by all countries according to indian media FATF was was ready to throw us in Black List in Feb. Even staying in Grey List was looking impossible after Feb.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is "a 75% chance of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> exiting the 'grey list' now": Sources.<br>(<a href="https://twitter.com/Geeta_Mohan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Geeta_Mohan</a> )<a href="https://t.co/0xqoKxftgF">https://t.co/0xqoKxftgF</a></p>— India Today (@IndiaToday) <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday/status/1220544807010856960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Changing equations in region help Pakistan get relief at FATF meet .“It was a bit surprising the way US, UK, France, Germany, Australia, New Zealand and even Japan, all of them favoured Pakistan..seems the changing geopolitical environment helped Pakistan” <a href="https://t.co/46yEYKbBoW">https://t.co/46yEYKbBoW</a></p>— Nidhi Razdan (@Nidhi) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nidhi/status/1220537296841256960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Last time Indian media had put us in "dark grey" list now they are putting us on white list. Seems that India is more interested in Pakistan's FATF status than Pakistan itself. Bhai itni obsession bhi achi nahi...
 
It's a win-win for Pakistan if it happens because we are the biggest beneficiary if Taliban and US finally reach an agreement here. FATF white listing will just be a bonus.

Yes, it will be a win-win. I hope Taliban doesn't go crazy again and host someone like Bin Laden who bombs the US, in which case once again there will be a repeat of what happened the past 18 years.
 
Pakistan will always be a US ally , I guess their defense cooperation goes beyond boundaries this is irrespective of how Liberals like Jon Stewart called out Pakistani rulers in 2000s coz of Osama , now both major economies like CHINA and USA want influence in Pakistan.

BJP is defn a US pup, Congress had much more realistic vision, you give us something (Nuclear deal) we will give you IRAN sanctions, currently its one way street.

It’s astonishing to see how poor BJP really is, not sure how their supporters see Modi as but all his bravado is based on the economic stability built from 1991-2014.

We need calculated approach of technocrats, BJP can have its terrible leaders and say what you want in speeches but just let the economic, foreign decisions be taken by Technocrats, and these dimwit leaders can take credit for them , not understanding why they are interfering in the middle and what to show they know how to lead when they don’t .
 
Imran Khan wiped the floor with Indians at Davos lol. Good times ahead, this is what we need an active diplomacy and reminder to the world what significance Pakistan holds. I would say good job Imran Khan and SMQ. SMQ has been pretty good in engaging other country's foreign ministries.
 
Imran Khan wiped the floor with Indians at Davos lol. Good times ahead, this is what we need an active diplomacy and reminder to the world what significance Pakistan holds. I would say good job Imran Khan and SMQ. SMQ has been pretty good in engaging other country's foreign ministries.

I wonder if there was any official from indian side at Davos this year? George Soros speech at Davos was really embarrassing for india. Here is what he said and the whole indian media was after him today :))

"Nationalism, far from being reversed, made further headway." The biggest and "most frightening setback," he said came in India "where a democratically elected Narendra Modi is creating a Hindu nationalist state, imposing punitive measures on Kashmir, a semi-autonomous Muslim region, and threatening to deprive millions of Muslims of their citizenship."
 
Imran Khan wiped the floor with Indians at Davos lol. Good times ahead, this is what we need an active diplomacy and reminder to the world what significance Pakistan holds. I would say good job Imran Khan and SMQ. SMQ has been pretty good in engaging other country's foreign ministries.

Realty checks are good for every government, China 1962 war check helped India build an Army to be prepared for 1971 , 1991-93 US backed UN interventions helped us prepare bipartisan ruling for a strong Indian economy to have a say with much influence in US thanks to guys like Chatwals.

It’s not much to do with PM Imran but more to do with the right backing the new govn in Pakistan has.

But am sure Indian backchannels are watching it and realizing where its lacking and what is needed, lets not forget India still holds lot of influence among France, UK, USA whenever Kashmir gets out of Hand in UN.

Also [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] , Soros actually genuinely cares about India monetarily because he own 4% of Bombay Stock Exchange but he sees the issue and speaks out he criticized Chinese Prez and Trump much more..
 
‘India’s leadership ambitions remain unrealised’

The long-held dream of becoming a regional and global front-runner that India has harbored for more than seven decades, remains unrealised, according to a South Asia expert.

In his analysis, Ashley J. Tellis, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, states that the second-most populous country cannot play a larger role on the world stage, without restoring its economic momentum and liberal credentials.

Published by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a Washington D.C-based foreign-policy think tank, the analysis titled ‘India’s path to the big Leagues’ suggests that New Delhi needs a new approach to revive its hopes of joining the club of great powers.

Tellis, who has severed as a senior adviser to the ambassador at the US diplomatic mission in New Delhi and on the National Security Council staff as special assistant to former US president George W. Bush, talks about a variety of issues, including tensions around religion and citizenship that stirred domestic politics under Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

According Carnegie’s Tellis, India will have fewer partners in the west if the country continues to dilute its liberal character. Such policies, the analysis alludes, will only remind the world more of India’s extant weaknesses than of its strengths.

On India’s ability to control the region, it once hoped to dominate as a power, Tellis said: “India’s economic weakness has diminished its capacity to control its own neighborhood even as it has fortified other global ties.” Falling short of calling India an isolated nation in the region, Tellis said: “I see a region that is changing unfavorably from the viewpoint of Indian interests.”

Earlier this year, India found itself at the centre of awkward territorial disputes with Nepal and China, its most powerful neighbour in the region. Responding to a question about the border dispute with China, the former special assistant to president Bush said, “The Indian leaders need to recognize that the Chinese threat cannot be either charmed or wished away.” To deter China at all levels, Tellis said, India needs adequate resources. “India needs sufficient resources to sustain its military modernization, strong partnerships with key outside powers,” he said by email from Washington D.C.

On the state of secularism and democracy in India, the South Asia expert said: “India is going through a wrenching debate on what secularism really means.” Depending on the outcome, he said, India might just end up as another electoral democracy or a regional role model.

Carnegie’s Tellis attributed the country’s weaknesses since independence to economic policy failures of different kinds. “These persist today, but are exacerbated by political failures as well,” explained the South Asia expert.‎

Domestic Challenges

In another analysis on India, Milan Vaishnav, Director of the South Asia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, talks about the growing polarisation and centralisation of power in South Asia’s largest democracy.

Vaishnav, who also hosts Carnegie’s podcast on India, explains that both trends firmly grip the country. Centralisation of government authority, he said, is unlikely to be restrained.

Sharing three principle concerns about the state of democracy in India, Vaishnav said: “First, since 2014, India appears to have moved decisively in a more avowedly majoritarian direction— especially since the start of Prime Minister Modi’s second term in May 2019.”

Second, he said, Modi has consolidated authority both within his political party as well as across the governmental machinery. “Third, the Modi government has repeatedly demonstrated contempt for dissent and sought to paint vocal critics of the government as anti-National,” said the South Asia expert by email.

According to Carnegie’s Vaishnav, the emergence of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) as the central pole of Indian politics has reconfigured religious, cast and partisan dynamics in the country. Vaishnav, who is the author of ‘Rethinking of public institutions in India’, also mentioned that accountability agencies in the country have suffered a decline in their institutional integrity.

“The diminished character of accountability institutions will not only weaken India’s liberal character, but it will also hurt economic dynamism in the long run,” said Vaishnav from Washington D.C.

According to Vaishnav, who examines issues such as corruption, governance, disruptive politics and state behaviour, India’s executive branch is expected to retain the upper hand on critical issues such as privacy, individual rights, and public health.

On the rising majoritarianism in India, Vaishnav said: “For one, it risks creating a two-tiered class of citizenship in which a majority community dominates all others. Second, it will hamper social inclusion and equitable development.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2267631/indias-leadership-ambitions-remain-unrealised
 
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