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Should ICC lift the ban on saliva use for bowlers?

Should ICC lift the ban on saliva use for bowlers?

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Ever since the ICC banned the use of saliva on the ball, fast bowlers have found it increasingly difficult to generate conventional and reverse swing. Sweat, the only legal alternative, does not provide the same level of shine and grip as saliva, which has historically been a crucial tool for bowlers to maintain the ball’s condition.

Saliva helps create the contrast needed between the two sides of the ball, allowing for movement in the air, especially in dry and abrasive conditions. Without it, bowlers struggle to find movement, making cricket even more batter-friendly. Reverse swing, which was once a lethal weapon, has become rare, tilting the balance further in favor of batters.

Given these challenges, should the ICC reconsider its stance and allow saliva once again? Or do you believe the ban should remain?
 
I think it helps bowlers for sure but is unhygienic too at the same time. Instead should let players use wet towel for it.
 
Yes. Game has tilted towards the batsman so lift the ban plus Bring back one new ball rule instead two. :kp
 
Vernon Philander, Tim Southee Voice Out Support For Mohammed Shami's Plea To ICC

Star India pacer Mohammed Shami’s plea to ICC to revert their decision on allowing the use of saliva has found new support, as stalwart pacers such as SA’s Vernon Philander and NZ’s Tim Southee have backed the Indian’s appeal.

The use of saliva was a common means for pacers across the world to keep the shine intact on one half of the old ball, helping in reverse swing.

The ban on using saliva was first posted in May 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic as a temporary measure. Then, in September 2022, the ICC made the ban permanent.

Shami has previously talked about how that reverse swing has taken a beating ever since the use of saliva was prohibited and how he would like to see the ICC overturn their decision.

“We are trying [to get reverse swing], but the usage of saliva on the ball is not allowed," Shami told reporters after India’s four-wicket win over Australia in the Champions Trophy semi-final.

“We keep appealing that we should be allowed to use saliva so that we can bring reverse swing back into the game and it becomes interesting."

Now, Shami has also got the backing of two former international bowlers in Vernon Philander and Tim Southee, who feel reverse swing is definitely missing in the game, especially on batter-friendly surfaces.

“That was a rule brought around Covid with the virus going around the world, but I think as a bowler, you want to have a slight advantage," Southee said on ESPNcricinfo’s Match Day.

“We see the game going the way it’s going and seeing sides score 362 and more often than not over 300 in this format. I think there needs to be something in the bowlers’ favour, and whether that’s a little bit of saliva, then yeah, I don’t see why they couldn’t afford to get that back in."

Philander also backed Southee’s comments, stating, “I’d like to see that element being brought back into the game because I think it’s needed as well. I mean, especially in ODI cricket where we see batters really dominating, especially when you play on surfaces like we’ve just seen in Pakistan as well where it’s really batter friendly."

 
Frankly, if they allow saliva, they might as well allow vaseline. Using saliva one player after another is just so unhygienic. Would you be okay if someone spat in your hand? That’s what it essentially is, technically speaking.
I know it’s been around forever, but it doesn’t mean I should agree with it.
 
Frankly, if they allow saliva, they might as well allow vaseline. Using saliva one player after another is just so unhygienic. Would you be okay if someone spat in your hand? That’s what it essentially is, technically speaking.
I know it’s been around forever, but it doesn’t mean I should agree with it.
It used to be the practice. That is why they want it back. Yea it is unhygienic. No question about that.
 
IPL 2025: Saliva ban lifted, Second new ball to be implemented in second innings of night matches

The ban on applying saliva on the ball is set to be lifted during the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2025 after all the ten captains gave their consent on the issue.

“Suggestions were sought from the captains and they unanimously agreed that the ban should be lifted in a bid to offer something to the bowlers,” a well-placed insider told Sportstar after the mandatory captain’s meeting at the BCCI headquarters on Thursday.

It is believed that a formal communication will be sent out to the teams shortly.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) had banned the practice of applying saliva to shine the ball as a precautionary measure during the COVID-19 pandemic, before making it a permanent ban in 2022.

The IPL, too, followed the ICC guidelines and imposed a ban. However, during the ICC Champions Trophy, Mohammed Shami had spoken about the need to use saliva on the ball, which also had the backing of Tim Southee.

“We keep appealing that we should be allowed to use saliva so that we can bring reverse swing back into the game and it becomes interesting,” Shami had said during the Champions Trophy.

The BCCI insiders claimed that discussions started during the Champions Trophy and even though the use of saliva might not have a huge benefit for the bowlers in white-ball cricket, they are open to discussions.

As per the existing playing conditions, if it is the first instance of applying saliva on the ball, the fielding team’s captain is summoned and issued a first warning. After the second instance during an innings, the captain of the fielding side is issued a second and final warning that any further such offence by any member of the team shall result in that member of the team being fined by BCCI.

If it is the third or subsequent instance, inform the player who has applied saliva to the ball on that occasion that he is subject to a fine, payable to BCCI, of the lesser of 10 lakh or 25% of his match fee.

But with the ban set to be lifted, bowlers will have something to cheer for.

Impact player rule to stay

Contrary to reports, the Impact Player rule will stay in the upcoming edition of the tournament. In fact, there were no discussions on it being scrapped for the time being. “Impact player has made the tournament more interesting and there were no further deliberations on scrapping it,” an insider said.

Second new ball rule implemented

It was also decided that a new rule of a mandatory second new ball for the second innings of a match will be implemented.

According to the sources, the second ball will come into play after the 11th over of the second innings of a night fixture, primarily to negate the dew factor, especially in night games. The rule will not be implemented in day games.

“Now, with a second new ball, teams winning the toss won’t have any undue advantage even if dew settles in later in the game,” a source said.

SOURCE: https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...egulations-indian-cricket/article69352877.ece
 
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Why not leverage technology to create a product with similar properties as saliva, that can then be applied as needed by the bowling team. Much more hygienic but still solves the problem. Cricket just can’t seem to move with the times.
 
Saliva was banned due to covid. I think this rule should be revoked now... Saliva favors the bowlers a bit more.
 
It is disgusting that bodily fluids like saliva and sweat are applied to a ball.

Instead just allow teams to use water.
 
Personally speaking it looks so bad when players are licking the ball and all. I feel they should allow an external substance in moderation to be applied to the ball that isn't as gross as saliva.
 
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