Should India have forfeited the 5th Test against England?

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Answer my question don't deflect its. Because of same reason which i mentioned ,this test was cancelled

Your question is stupid because if you think it is smart then you should have similar opinion about these players landing in UAE as well which means either these players should go back to India or BCCI should cancel IPL. According to your assumption these same players can be Corona positive in the next couple of days so it is quite risky for other players in UAE.

 

[Devadwal]

Reports of all players came negative just before the match so there is nothing to assume. If that is how you are thinking then BCCI should also cancel IPL. Shouldn't they?

Ask [MENTION=291]junaid[/MENTION] about how covid test came positive after 3 or 4 days later even if they tested negative .

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Ask [MENTION=291]junaid[/MENTION] about how covid test came positive after 3 or 4 days later even if they tested negative .

So why are they not coming back to India then? They can infect others in UAE.

 

[Devadwal]

Your question is stupid because if you think it is smart then you should have similar opinion about these players landing in UAE as well which means either these players should go back to India or BCCI should cancel IPL. According to your assumption these same players can be Corona positive in the next couple of days so it is quite risky for other players in UAE.

All the players will be hard quarantine for 6 days due to this events otherwise they can directly join team without any quarantine as per previous condition . anything more??

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

All the players will be hard quarantine for 6 days due to this events otherwise they can directly join team without any quarantine as per previous condition . anything more??

I think [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] said that they were shopping day before the fifth test but according to you they will be hard quarantined for 6 days. I think they will go shopping after landing in UAE too.

 

[Devadwal]

What question?
About BCCi?

Why would I have a reaction against the BCCi?

I have preconceived views of the BCCi but this incident has changed that view...
I'm more interest in the hypocrisy.

Its only you looks hypocrite. Bcz If BCCI played test match then in between test match anyone from both teams finds covid positive then you would have been criticized BCCI like why they don't cencel this test ( like 1st parts of IPL ) .now they already cancelled Test match still you also criticized them.

 

[Devadwal]

I think [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] said that they were shopping day before the fifth test but according to you they will be hard quarantined for 6 days. I think they will go shopping after landing in UAE too.

Anybody can say anything without any proof. BTW i have proof of 6 day hard quarantine of player's if you want to me show you.

 

[IMMY69]

Its only you looks hypocrite. Bcz If BCCI played test match then in between test match anyone from both teams finds covid positive then you would have been criticized BCCI like why they don't cencel this test ( like 1st parts of IPL ) .now they already cancelled Test match still you also criticized them.

You're not making sense!
How can you possibly predict I would say that?

As a massive cricket snd England fan all I wanted was to see the final match of what was a fantastic series..
If players tested positive then yes we would have dissected it but to blame BCCi or players without the facts would be idiotic and you making that prediction is also quite silly

 

[Devadwal]

You're not making sense!
How can you possibly predict I would say that?

As a massive England fan all I wanted was to see the final match of what was a fantastic series..
If players tested positive then yes we would have dissected it but to blame BCCi or players without the facts would be idiotic and you making that prediction is also quite silly

Don't you criticized bcci during 1ST PART OF IPL ?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Anybody can say anything without any proof. BTW i have proof of 6 day hard quarantine of player's if you want to me show you.

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] Can you please provide a proof of Indian players shopping before the 5th test? Or was that a lie?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Don't you criticized bcci during 1ST PART OF IPL ?

If I remember correctly most of us were saying that BCCI shouldn't have organized IPL during the pandemic and criticised them for that. In the end it was cancelled and those who were criticising BCCI were proven right.

 

[Devadwal]

You're not making sense!
How can you possibly predict I would say that?

As a massive cricket snd England fan all I wanted was to see the final match of what was a fantastic series..
If players tested positive then yes we would have dissected it but to blame BCCi or players without the facts would be idiotic and you making that prediction is also quite silly

I'm hard core test fan even watched every ball of the session when india play any test match in Sena country. I don't even watched most of IPL match other than RR .but blaming BCCI for everything happens in crickets is not a right thing

 

[IMMY69]

Don't you criticized bcci during 1ST PART OF IPL ?

I criticised the continuation of the IPL during the height of the pandemic and infections and deaths ripping through India. But more so the hypocrisy of players, commentator snd officials making silly statements which was also hypocrisy of the highest order.

 

[IMMY69]

I'm hard core test fan even watched every ball of the session when india play any test match in Sena country. I don't even watched most of IPL match other than RR .but blaming BCCI for everything happens in crickets is not a right thing

I will critique any board that puts greed over lives and then the game of cricket itself.
Whether it's BCCi, ECB, PCB or the SAS. But I can even understand this, it's just when you try to hide from the facts that's when it becomes hypocritical.

 

[Technics 1210]

As more information comes out, I don't even think Ravi Shastri and Co tested positive. All a ploy.

 

[Devadwal]

I will critique any board that puts greed over lives and then the game of cricket itself.
Whether it's BCCi, ECB, PCB or the SAS

Your 1st sentence prove my point. Playing A test match knowing there is some close contact of covid person is not a right thing. Btw why is not a tight bio secure bubble for this test series? This is ECB faults as daily case in England are closed to 40K.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Anybody can say anything without any proof. BTW i have proof of 6 day hard quarantine of player's if you want to me show you.

Are you talking about this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IPL teams chartering planes .. 6 days quarantining required in the UAE .. 7 days till the tournament starts !!!! Don’t tell me the Test was cancelled for any other reason but the IPL ..</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1436637031191519235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[cricketjoshila]

Match was cancelled due to IPL.
End of.

Most of us can live with it and those that can't will get over it.
It may eventually lead to the death of test cricket but that's for another thread.

Can you tell how the match was cancelled due to IPL?

 

[Devadwal]

Are you talking about this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IPL teams chartering planes .. 6 days quarantining required in the UAE .. 7 days till the tournament starts !!!! Don’t tell me the Test was cancelled for any other reason but the IPL ..</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1436637031191519235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol this person is last name( Along with holding) whome i can trust . biggest hypocrite i have ever seen.

 

[Devadwal]

As more information comes out, I don't even think Ravi Shastri and Co tested positive. All a ploy.

As usual he came with another propaganda based on fake news rather than actual proof.

 

[IMMY69]

Your 1st sentence prove my point. Playing A test match knowing there is some close contact of covid person is not a right thing. Btw why is not a tight bio secure bubble for this test series? This is ECB faults as daily case in England are closed to 40K.

You keep missing the point.
Try to take off your nationalist glasses and see it independently.

21,000 people bought tickets for the match and that's just the first day.
Thousands paid for train tickets snd booked hotels which they will not be refunded for.

Caterers stocked up on food and drink, they hired staff... all for this match.

Many people have been left high and dry, even after getting reimbursement for the cost of the ticket.

Now coming to the players. They all tested negative. So you say they could have tested positive during the game. I agree.
So then why not delay the start date by two days?

Because the players needed to get to Dubai for the IPL.
The only choice was to cancel the match.
Delaying the test by a couple of days wasn't even considered. Why?
Because of the IPL.

Do you get it now?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol this person is last name( Along with holding) whome i can trust . biggest hypocrite i have ever seen.

But he is saying the same thing which you said above that 6 days quarantine is required in UAE.

Originally India vs England 5th test would have ended on 14th Sep. Even if they travelled to UAE on the same night they would have been quarantined for 6 days, IPL is starting on 19th September which means some players would have to skip the first 2-3 matches because of this. Does that ring any bell?

 

[Technics 1210]

As usual he came with another propaganda based on fake news rather than actual proof.

You have proof Shastri and Co tested positive? Lets see it.

 

[Devadwal]

But he is saying the same thing which you said above that 6 days quarantine is required in UAE.

Originally India vs England 5th test would have ended on 14th Sep. Even if they travelled to UAE on the same night they would have been quarantined for 6 days, IPL is starting on 19th September which means some players would have to skip the first 2-3 matches because of this. Does that ring any bell?

No originally they do not need any quarantine like South Africa and srilanka player's or CPL players .its bubble to bubble transfer .now India and England players are needed 6 day hard quarantined.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No originally they do not need any quarantine like South Africa and srilanka player's or CPL players .its bubble to bubble transfer .now India and England players are needed 6 day hard quarantined.

Are you trying to say that originally 6 days quarantine wasn't required for Indian players and its been implemented just recently. May be that is why they had no problem in playing the 5th test initially but had to make adjustments for IPL in a short span of time? If that is true then this is also ringing another bell.

 

[James]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] Can you please provide a proof of Indian players shopping before the 5th test? Or was that a lie?

It’s something I read in the press. I have not seen proof. I made it clear in earlier posts that I was not making a direct accusation at all.

 

[Devadwal]

Are you trying to say that originally 6 days quarantine wasn't required for Indian players and its been implemented just recently. May be that is why they had no problem in playing the 5th test initially but had to make adjustments for IPL in a short span of time? If that is true then this is also ringing another bell.

This is due to player have closed contact with covid positive person ,same reason why this test was cancelled

 

[Last Monetarist]

With so much hypocrisy it's difficult to feel sympathy for anyone in this whole sordid affair. Both of these boards and teams treat others with contempt and yesterday their actions ended up in conflict with each other.

Yup, the only ones that are losing in this scenario are the fans.

Both the ECB and the BCCI are to blame for this mess. If this tour had been organized by the PCB, I can only imagine the hysteria about unprofessionalism and administrative incompetence and why was there no risk mitigation in place for this precise outcome.

 

[Saurav]

So let's recap.
India pulled out due to IPL
This was a scheduled test series with dates agreed between the boards. It matters not what BCCai asked for, it is what they finally agreed upon.

Just say it like it is.

Yes the dates were agreed upon,why should the Test be pushed for 2 days.

You raised that point not me.

 

[Saurav]

Seriously lol? You are making it seem like it was preplanned by BCCI that they will leave after the 4th test. It was certainly not the case because both teams were getting ready to play the 5th test.

where did I make it seem that? It was response to poster asking to play a delayed Test.

Comprehension issues?

 

[Abu_Hamza]

If ECB are unhappy and feel betrayed then they must stop inviting Indian team but they have released their next year home schedule with India playing them in LOIs. ECB knows whose loss it will be to anger BCCI. People over here are making a big fuss over it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes the dates were agreed upon,why should the Test be pushed for 2 days.

You raised that point not me.

If Ind 2-1 down in the series, do you think they would have refused to play?

 

[Saurav]

If Ind 2-1 down in the series, do you think they would have refused to play?

Yes. Rest is your biased assumptions without any basis.

 

[IMMY69]

Yes the dates were agreed upon,why should the Test be pushed for 2 days.

You raised that point not me.

Thank you.

 

[IMMY69]

Can you tell how the match was cancelled due to IPL?

Can you tell me that the match would have continued on time or even two or three days later had it not clashed with the IPL?

 

[Saurav]

Virat Kohli Suggested Delayed Start But ECB Refused Leading to Cancellation: Report

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-leading-to-cancellation-report-4189511.html

Following the exchange, BCCI office-bearers spoke to England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) executives, proposing postponing the commencement of the game to Sunday or Monday. However, this could not be accommodated by the ECB.

The schedule for domestic and international fixtures in an English cricket season is decided nearly a year in advance and cannot generally be tweaked ad hoc. The decision not to go ahead with the Test was officially taken just two hours before the start of play.

now what?

 

[Devadwal]

Kohli also pointed out that with head coach Ravi Shastri down with Covid and several other members of the support staff likewise, India would have to enter a crucial Test without key off-field advisers and strategists and back-up officials, including physiotherapists.

Following the exchange, BCCI office-bearers spoke to England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) executives, proposing postponing the commencement of the game to Sunday or Monday. However, this could not be accommodated by the ECB.

Where are England and Pakistan fans now ? What's your opinion now ?

 

[IMMY69]

Virat Kohli Suggested Delayed Start But ECB Refused Leading to Cancellation: Report

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-leading-to-cancellation-report-4189511.html



now what?

If this is true then clearly the game wasn't cancelled due to the IPL and hence the game should not be forfeited by India. Unless there is some other rule covering covid

 

[Saurav]

If the series is rendered incomplete till next year,it only hurts India.

Being 2-1 up,they had the mental edge and were used to the conditions. Would have been much better to win/draw now than a one-off Test next year.

I'm sure players realize it too.

 

[Ab Fan]

[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION], as I said, very proud of this decision by BCCI.

Terrific decision understanding the importance of the situation and having the awareness to react to it in an appropriate manner.

 

[Buffet]

Virat Kohli Suggested Delayed Start But ECB Refused Leading to Cancellation: Report

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-leading-to-cancellation-report-4189511.html



now what?

ECB should have agreed to a delayed start. You can not blame players to wait for a couple of days to make sure covid is not infecting them and their entire family. Mainly to take care of the incubation period.

More and more it seems like ECB wanted to play everything according to schedule irrespective of covid. They also scheduled a long gap to allow English players to play T20 games in the middle of the test series. India was sitting in Eng for such a long time after the WTC final. There was plenty of room to change the schedule.

Given the entire situation, it's shameful behavior from England to ask for a forfeit.

The only losers here are fans who booked tickets and traveled.

 

[Saurav]

ECB should have agreed to a delayed start. You can not blame players to wait for a couple of days to make sure covid is not infecting them and their entire family. Mainly to take care of the incubation period.

More and more it seems like ECB wanted to play everything according to schedule irrespective of covid. They also scheduled a long gap to allow English players to play T20 games in the middle of the test series. India was sitting in Eng for such a long time after the WTC final. There was plenty of room to change the schedule.

Given the entire situation, it's shameful behavior from England to ask for a forfeit.

The only losers here are fans who booked tickets and traveled.

I guess it wasn't easy to reschedule.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Just a reminder to all, any personal attacks against other posters will be deleted. Keep the debate strictly to the merits of the decision to abandon the test match.

 

[Devadwal]

ECB should have agreed to a delayed start. You can not blame players to wait for a couple of days to make sure covid is not infecting them and their entire family. Mainly to take care of the incubation period.

More and more it seems like ECB wanted to play everything according to schedule irrespective of covid. They also scheduled a long gap to allow English players to play T20 games in the middle of the test series. India was sitting in Eng for such a long time after the WTC final. There was plenty of room to change the schedule.

Given the entire situation, it's shameful behavior from England to ask for a forfeit.

The only losers here are fans who booked tickets and traveled.

That's why first news came out fifth test delayed by 2 day but after that we hear cancellation news .

 

[HitWicket]

They also scheduled a long gap to allow English players to play T20 games in the middle of the test series. India was sitting in Eng for such a long time after the WTC final. There was plenty of room to change the schedule.

Again, this rest week is completely standard for a 5 match test series. Moeen was the only one who dropped out between the tests to play.

 

[Buffet]

I guess it wasn't easy to reschedule.

I can understand that part, but then it seems low-class behavior to ask the other team to forfeit. That would be true even without the offer of a delayed start and with a delayed start, I am not sure what to make of this behavior.

This entire situation looks messy.

 

[Devadwal]

Again, this rest week is completely standard for a 5 match test series. Moeen was the only one who dropped out between the tests to play.

India waited for 40 days in England after WTC final to play 1st test .

 

[Buffet]

Again, this rest week is completely standard for a 5 match test series. Moeen was the only one who dropped out between the tests to play.

It was not resting. ECB put a long gap to allow English players to play in T20 games.

If another team has asked multiple times to change the schedule then not doing it for playing T20 games in middle of test series is not normal.

 

[Last Monetarist]

It was not resting. ECB put a long gap to allow English players to play in T20 games.

If another team has asked multiple times to change the schedule then not doing it for playing T20 games in middle of test series is not normal.

That is extremely unfair given that in a five-test series it is conventional to have a 10-day break between one of the tests. It'd be irrational to ask the players to play 5 tests across 5 successive weeks.

The problem wasn't with that break, but the fact that India were prodding about doing nothing in the UK for the whole of July because England were playing irrelevant white ball matches against Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

 

[Buffet]

That is extremely unfair given that in a five-test series it is conventional to have a 10-day break between one of the tests. It'd be irrational to ask the players to play 5 tests across 5 successive weeks.

The problem wasn't with that break, but the fact that India were prodding about doing nothing in the UK for the whole of July because England were playing irrelevant white ball matches against Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

My understanding ( based on comments only) is that many English test squads played T20 or hundreds to something in the middle of the test series. If I am wrong about it then ignore my comments.

Normally, yes long rest is not only normal but even required when you play such a long test series.

Anyway, poor anticlimax for this test series. It was a cracker to watch for 4 tests. PLaying one test after one year is not really a continuation of the series.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes. Rest is your biased assumptions without any basis.

No chance. And that's why England should be awarded the test.

 

[Bewal Express]

India waited for 40 days in England after WTC final to play 1st test .

They didn't have to. They shouldn't have agreed to schedule

 

[Last Monetarist]

My understanding ( based on comments only) is that many English test squads played T20 or hundreds to something in the middle of the test series. If I am wrong about it then ignore my comments.

Normally, yes long rest is not only normal but even required when you play such a long test series.

Anyway, poor anticlimax for this test series. It was a cracker to watch for 4 tests. PLaying one test after one year is not really a continuation of the series.

The only England player who featured in the Lord's test and played during that break (and even then it was only a single game) was Moeen Ali.

Craig Overton and Dawid Malan also played that week, but they hadn't been part of the XI in the first two tests.

 

[Buffet]

The only England player who featured in the Lord's test and played during that break (and even then it was only a single game) was Moeen Ali.

Craig Overton also played that week, but he hadn't been part of the XI in the first two tests.

OK, Then my comment was not correct.

 

[Buffet]

Virat Kohli Suggested Delayed Start But ECB Refused Leading to Cancellation: Report


After several conference calls and feverish attempts to find a solution, the fifth and final Test of the India-England series as part of the ICC World Test Championship was, according to two participants in the exchanges, called off because “the Indian players refused to play".


Captain Virat Kohli is said to have conveyed on behalf of the Indian cricketers that an infection could show up in the next couple of days among the tourists - as the negative Covid-19 test results on the eve of the match were not a guarantee of an infection not germinating.

He reportedly suggested to the BCCI officials that the start of the match be postponed by two to three days.

Kohli also pointed out that with head coach Ravi Shastri down with Covid and several other members of the support staff likewise, India would have to enter a crucial Test without key off-field advisers and strategists and back-up officials, including physiotherapists.

Following the exchange, BCCI office-bearers spoke to England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) executives, proposing postponing the commencement of the game to Sunday or Monday. However, this could not be accommodated by the ECB.

The schedule for domestic and international fixtures in an English cricket season is decided nearly a year in advance and cannot generally be tweaked ad hoc. The decision not to go ahead with the Test was officially taken just two hours before the start of play.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-leading-to-cancellation-report-4189511.html

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So ECB wanted players to play despite the covid situation and did not want a delayed start. In this situation asking for a forfeit takes the cake.

I guess that's why ECB quickly retracted that statement, but what's does Eng have in the next 15 days? Is it clashing with anything?

 

[Last Monetarist]

So ECB wanted players to play despite the covid situation and did not want a delayed start and then ask for forfeit.

I guess that's ECB quickly retracted that statement, but it was a reasonable request to have a delayed start.

What's does Eng have in the next 15 days?

If this story is true, then the only reasonable outcome is for the match to be abandoned and the series awarded to India 2-1.

 

[Buffet]

If this story is true, then the only reasonable outcome is for the match to be abandoned and the series awarded to India 2-1.

The series award is one issue, but I am trying to see why ECB can't accommodate a delayed start. I am not aware of Eng doing anything immediately after this series.

 

[Last Monetarist]

The series award is one issue, but I am trying to see why ECB can't accommodate a delayed start. I am not aware of Eng doing anything immediately after this series.

It's puzzling certainly why the ECB didn't agree to a postponement of two days, it makes no sense given the extent of the loss Lancashire will be bearing for an abandoned test.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Virat Kohli Suggested Delayed Start But ECB Refused Leading to Cancellation: Report


After several conference calls and feverish attempts to find a solution, the fifth and final Test of the India-England series as part of the ICC World Test Championship was, according to two participants in the exchanges, called off because “the Indian players refused to play".


Captain Virat Kohli is said to have conveyed on behalf of the Indian cricketers that an infection could show up in the next couple of days among the tourists - as the negative Covid-19 test results on the eve of the match were not a guarantee of an infection not germinating.

He reportedly suggested to the BCCI officials that the start of the match be postponed by two to three days.

Kohli also pointed out that with head coach Ravi Shastri down with Covid and several other members of the support staff likewise, India would have to enter a crucial Test without key off-field advisers and strategists and back-up officials, including physiotherapists.

Following the exchange, BCCI office-bearers spoke to England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) executives, proposing postponing the commencement of the game to Sunday or Monday. However, this could not be accommodated by the ECB.

The schedule for domestic and international fixtures in an English cricket season is decided nearly a year in advance and cannot generally be tweaked ad hoc. The decision not to go ahead with the Test was officially taken just two hours before the start of play.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-leading-to-cancellation-report-4189511.html

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So ECB wanted players to play despite the covid situation and did not want a delayed start. In this situation asking for a forfeit takes the cake.

I guess that's why ECB quickly retracted that statement, but what's does Eng have in the next 15 days? Is it clashing with anything?

ECB wanted an easy walkover. But BCCI put its foot down. Now the case moves to ICC DRC likely and another controversy will start as the man incharge of the Icc drc is Michael Beloff.

 

[Devadwal]

Virat Kohli Suggested Delayed Start But ECB Refused Leading to Cancellation: Report


After several conference calls and feverish attempts to find a solution, the fifth and final Test of the India-England series as part of the ICC World Test Championship was, according to two participants in the exchanges, called off because “the Indian players refused to play".


Captain Virat Kohli is said to have conveyed on behalf of the Indian cricketers that an infection could show up in the next couple of days among the tourists - as the negative Covid-19 test results on the eve of the match were not a guarantee of an infection not germinating.

He reportedly suggested to the BCCI officials that the start of the match be postponed by two to three days.

Kohli also pointed out that with head coach Ravi Shastri down with Covid and several other members of the support staff likewise, India would have to enter a crucial Test without key off-field advisers and strategists and back-up officials, including physiotherapists.

Following the exchange, BCCI office-bearers spoke to England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) executives, proposing postponing the commencement of the game to Sunday or Monday. However, this could not be accommodated by the ECB.

The schedule for domestic and international fixtures in an English cricket season is decided nearly a year in advance and cannot generally be tweaked ad hoc. The decision not to go ahead with the Test was officially taken just two hours before the start of play.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-leading-to-cancellation-report-4189511.html

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So ECB wanted players to play despite the covid situation and did not want a delayed start. In this situation asking for a forfeit takes the cake.

I guess that's why ECB quickly retracted that statement, but what's does Eng have in the next 15 days? Is it clashing with anything?

They wanted India to forfeit match only then they can get insurance money.

 

[Buffet]

It's puzzling certainly why the ECB didn't agree to a postponement of two days, it makes no sense given the extent of the loss Lancashire will be bearing for an abandoned test.

I think there is more to the story here. It seems irrational to not agree on a delayed start. Either this story is false or something else was going on to not allow ECB to agree to a delayed start. It does not make any sense to me.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It's puzzling certainly why the ECB didn't agree to a postponement of two days, it makes no sense given the extent of the loss Lancashire will be bearing for an abandoned test.

Cause, ECB would have got a easy point and Insurance would have covered the costs.

 

[James]

Is there any actual evidence that the ECB refused a two day delay ? Is this story multi-sourced, verified ?

 

[Buffet]

They wanted India to forfeit match only then they can get insurance money.

But there was no need to get insurance money if a match was going to be played after a couple of days.

If many players were in touch with support staff and they had picked it up then in that scenario I can see ECB thinking that match will not take place due to covid after waiting for the incubation period. More and more it seems ECB simply wanted a forfeit to collect insurance money because there is no insurance for cancellation due to covid. The chance of cancellation even after a delayed start was not zero.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Is there any actual evidence that the ECB refused a two day delay ? Is this story multi-sourced, verified ?

Not yet, no similar report in the English media.

 

[Buffet]

Is there any actual evidence that the ECB refused a two day delay ? Is this story multi-sourced, verified ?

Multiple sources may be picking this story from one source, so I am not sure. We will find out more with time.

 

[Devadwal]

Multiple sources may be picking this story from one source, so I am not sure. We will find out more with time.

Maybe during the IPL when virat will be doing PC ? I'm sure journalist will ask reason of how 5th test was cancelled

 

[cricketjoshila]

Can you tell me that the match would have continued on time or even two or three days later had it not clashed with the IPL?

If the test would have continued as per the schedule it would not have clashed with the IPL.

Why a delay of two or three days be accomodated by bcci when they have other commitments?

As per news reports, Virat and the team wanted a delay of 2 days but ECB refused.

 

[James]

If the test would have continued as per the schedule it would not have clashed with the IPL.

Why a delay of two or three days be accomodated by bcci when they have other commitments?

As per news reports, Virat and the team wanted a delay of 2 days but ECB refused.

News report. Singular. No verification or hard evidence. You should set the bar higher.

 

[drubwrubnat]

India shouldve instantly forfeited the test to retain the high moral ground. Winning is not important, but you have to look at long term reputation.

 

[Saurav]

News report. Singular. No verification or hard evidence. You should set the bar higher.

yet you readily believed that the players went shopping a day before the Test.

 

[James]

yet you readily believed that the players went shopping a day before the Test.

Yeahhhhhh that one is not going to work. You should read my posts. At no point did I stand behind the reports resolutely as factual. I pointed out that there were reports, and that if they were true, that the news was disappointing. Whereas people are jumping all over this single vague and unverified report in a very different way.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Cause, ECB would have got a easy point and Insurance would have covered the costs.

In the real world though, insurance payouts aren't that simplistic. The burden of proof is on the policyholder to prove that the insurable event couldn't be prevented. In this case, no insurance company would tolerate a claims application if the loss could have been mitigated by a simple postponement of the match by a day or two.

 

[cricketjoshila]

News report. Singular. No verification or hard evidence. You should set the bar higher.

What is the evidence of the claims you made?

 

[cricketjoshila]

In the real world though, insurance payouts aren't that simplistic. The burden of proof is on the policyholder to prove that the insurable event couldn't be prevented. In this case, no insurance company would tolerate a claims application if the loss could have been mitigated by a simple postponement of the match by a day or two.

Postponing may not have been that simple.

 

[Buffet]

Postponing may not have been that simple.

Why?

 

[HitWicket]

It was not resting. ECB put a long gap to allow English players to play in T20 games.

If another team has asked multiple times to change the schedule then not doing it for playing T20 games in middle of test series is not normal.

Like I said, only a single player played both tests and played any games in that rest week which is completely standard in the schedule for a 5 match series.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Postponing may not have been that simple.

Postponing is useless. The vibe and buildup of the final test is dead. No one would care of the outcome of that final test anymore. What a sad end to a fantastic test series.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Lol this person is last name( Along with holding) whome i can trust . biggest hypocrite i have ever seen.

But he has a point. The way Indian players took off to UAE, it only proves one thing and one thing only. #IPL

 

[PakLFC]

The record books will show India as being 2-1 up then the final test was cancelled. It will not say India won the series.