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Should Misbah-ul-Haq be sacked after the Zimbabwe series?

Should Misbah-ul-Haq be sacked after the Zimbabwe series?


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Seems its that time of year again when we ask the question.

Opinions on Misbah may be divided but I am sure we are agreed that the defeat against Zimbabwe DOES NOT bode well for the WT20.

So, should we take the tough decision now and remove Misbah or wait until things get too difficult?
 
Fakhar, Babar and Rizwan gave him a new lease of life on the tour of SA.

He won't be removed and we'll regret it after the T20 WC
 
He should be removed, but he won't be and the fans will continue to suffer.
 
Sadly, the South Africa tour was a curse in disguise. We’ll have to suffer until the end of the WT20, as I cannot see him getting sacked before.

The fans who were popping champagne after the SA tour have probably come to their senses that there’s MAJOR issues in Pakistan cricket.
 
Losing to Zimbabwe is an absolute disgrace. But you can’t just blame the coach for that. You don’t need a world class coach to beat Zimbabwe. The players need to take a look at themselves and the CS should be questioned for some selections.
 
The thing is, who could Misbah have even chosen for the MO instead? He had no say in the squad, he was virtually forced to stick it out with the likes of Danish and Asif. Even for the odis he was robbed of Saud Shakeel. At a certain point, it's out of the coach's hands, so I don't think people should be so impulsive.
 
I think they'll keep him on until the T20 World Cup and see how the team does in that tournament.
 
Misbah is clueless in relation to white ball cricket.

Pakistan will be rudderless under his leadership

Misbah Out
 
Thank you Misbah for all the memories like losses against Zimbabwe, losses at home to Sri Lanka, bringing back Akmal and Shehzad, embarrassments on away tours in Aus and NZ, THAT loss in Manchester e.t.c

But it's time to go.
 
The thing is, who could Misbah have even chosen for the MO instead? He had no say in the squad, he was virtually forced to stick it out with the likes of Danish and Asif. Even for the odis he was robbed of Saud Shakeel. At a certain point, it's out of the coach's hands, so I don't think people should be so impulsive.

It's already proven that he was just as bad or even worse as CS hence why he got the boot.
 
There’s only one person that can get Misbah sacked before the WT20, that’s Babar Azam.

Kohli done it with Kumble, and now Babar needs to speak up and put pressure on the PCB chairman to sack Misbah.

Babar wants Amir, Imad and Malik back, Misbah doesn’t. Surely Babar has to grow a pair and take one for the team.
 
As much as I dislike Misbah for several reasons, sacking him for loss to Zimbabwe is unreasonable and will accomplish nothing. The truth is, the majority of our players are incapable of playing under any sort of pressure. Today's target was a below-par score against the world bowling attack at the international level. Yet, they managed to screw it up because the top 3 didn't win it for them.

What is Misbah going to accomplish when Asif, Nawaz, and Danish who score for fun in domestic cricket can't buy a run at this level? The problem is deeply rooted in our cricket structure and most fans cannot accept it. It's time we accept our mediocrity and work through it.
 
Sack him and bring in who? Richard Pybus? Or Javed Miandad again?

Pakistani fans can and have never identified the root cause of Pakistan's problems. Again they think Misbah is the issue when in reality, the coach is hardly the problem for Pakistan.

The problem with Pakistan is the players and the minuscule talent pool in the country. Misbah didn't tell the players to go out and play at less than 5 RPO against Zimbabwe. There is a certain level of responsibility on the players themselves and nobody (apart from Rizwan and Babar) seems to be taking it.

You can change a 1000 coaches and this Pakistan team will remain an average team in its current state. The team is as good as its players, not as good as its coach. I don't know why people can't get this. And in terms of players, Pakistan does not possess even 2 match winners. When Danish Aziz with a FC average of 19 is selected to play for Pakistan, when Asif Ali is selected on the basis of 3 sixes in a PSL final, then what talent do you think Pakistan is producing?

Even if Pakistan flukes its way (highly unlikely) to winning the World Cup, it would still not mean anything in terms of the strength of the team. It's just that the team got on a hot run at the right time and won a cup. This is why you see unfancied teams winning a League Cup or an FA Cup, once in a while, but they are shocking in their own leagues.

It has become quite fashionable to hate Misbah and blame him for literally everything, but the fact of the matter is that the players are atrocious. I don't blame Misbah at all for the Zimbabwe defeat just as I won't go out of the way to credit him for the SA series win either. In Pakistan, the coach at the moment is an absolutely redundant post. This team can operate without a coach, batting coach, spin coach, fielding coach and it will perform exactly as it is performing right now.

Haider Ali was touted as the next big thing after Babar but just look at him now. He right now, is like seeing a fish out of water gasping for air. Literally has no mental strength to play international cricket at the moment. Abdullah Shafique, another superstar is just a member of the "potential" brigade.

Before blaming the coach, blame the talent pool in the country. It's atrocious. No two ways about it.
 
Misbah should go but not just because of this loss. Dude just does not have the cricketing IQ and has proven it with his statements over the years. And this is especially true for white ball cricket. From 2009 to the end of his ODI career, his strike rate was barely 70 and he had no idea how to play ODI cricket. Granted , Pakistan played on those difficult UAE pitches and possibly did not have elite batting talents but when in the said period, Hafeez managed decent stats of 37/78 and Umar maintained around 35/86, it should give you an idea of how awful a white ball batsman he was for most of his career.

In other words, he was no better than Ahmed Shehzad in ODI cricket but got away with it for whatever reason. He's incompetent and that's not going to change anytime soon.
 
There’s only one person that can get Misbah sacked before the WT20, that’s Babar Azam.

Kohli done it with Kumble, and now Babar needs to speak up and put pressure on the PCB chairman to sack Misbah.

Babar wants Amir, Imad and Malik back, Misbah doesn’t. Surely Babar has to grow a pair and take one for the team.

Babar Azam needs to speak up, I agree. It's time for this management to understand that these are players tried and tested, with credible performances on the international stage.

Each of Malik, Amir, and Imad deserves to be in the team given the lack of quality we have at the moment.

Mohammad Wasim is also at fault for selecting the likes of Asif Ali after they have been provided with ample opportunities at the international level. It is genuinely absurd as to how many chances Asif has gotten at the international level.

However, I will take the time to say that giving Arshad Iqbal a chance was a good decision. He looks like a good prospect from my initial observations, however he should be sent to coaches who can actually develop players.

Our batting is way too reliant on the top 3, where on average we get about 100+ runs in every T20 game we play.

If we assume that our average score is about 160, which is a fair estimate, the middle order is only hitting about 60-80 runs, which is shockingly poor.

Most world-class teams in the format have explosive opening batsmen and enough batting at 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 to score the bulk of runs.

As stated, Misbah lacks the vision and experience in coaching to understand what the demands of white ball cricket are in the modern age.
 
The two last ball/over victories in saf tour are not going to make this happen. If you think about it we barely beat their second XI and middle order was horrible. But part of the blame for that should be owned by selector and captain for selecting and playing asif, Danish, etc unless they were misbah picks.
 
One option can be leave misbah as red ball coach and hire Andy flower as 6 month contract white ball coach. Let Andy bring his preferred bowling coach also for white ball.
 
Some trends will never change. They are reality:

Pro Misbah= “Pakistan doesn’t have the talent to compete”

Pro Misbah= “Everyone is playing poorly except Babar and Rizwan”
 
Whilst it plays a big part, its not just about x,y and z player. Misbah has no clue about strategy, about tactics. He doesn't know know how to bring balance to a side or develop it.

He favours a bland and defensive approach to batting thinking his bowlers are going to bail him out. He shirks responsibility which is clear to see in his pressers.

When asked challenging questions he takes it personally and lashes out at all and sundry. Misbah needs to be more positive and show some fortitude if he is to survive.
 
Should? Would ? Could ? Please be it. As a gift of Eid for the fans.besides Asif ali shouldn’t even be part of cricket team of blinds.
 
It's already proven that he was just as bad or even worse as CS hence why he got the boot.

Right, but now he's not, so it's strange to crucify him for something out of his hands. And frankly, his selections are seeming better than Wasim's right about now. At the very least, Iftikhar and Imad wouldn't have folded like this.
 
I think criticism should be levelled at both Misbah and Wasim. Misbah selected the team but it was Wasim who selected the squad. They both share blame for this humiliating performance.
 
He should have been sacked long time ago. Never allowed to be our coach. Pakistan team for a while has been performing without a proper coach that by itself is a amazing feat.
 
Whilst it plays a big part, its not just about x,y and z player. Misbah has no clue about strategy, about tactics. He doesn't know know how to bring balance to a side or develop it.

He favours a bland and defensive approach to batting thinking his bowlers are going to bail him out. He shirks responsibility which is clear to see in his pressers.

When asked challenging questions he takes it personally and lashes out at all and sundry. Misbah needs to be more positive and show some fortitude if he is to survive.

I'd give him more time, he's giving chances to youngsters, is becoming more and more flexible in team selections, and is not adamant or stubborn on playing his favorites like Iftikhar or Asif, he brought back asif only after haider's failure, no other option in squad. Haider could be low on confidence, maybe they realized Haider's role is in top order not at no.6 hence they removed him out of misery, and Asif is only option we've for six, He has alot of negatives but one thing is he seems to be listening to those around him, which is a good sign. I really liked what Younis Khan said about Haider Ali, that was use of common sense and cricketing brain. I see Misbah is making effort, I did not expect him to be this positive when he was made coach chief-selector, he has surprised me.
 
Not sure who Misbah has on speed dial, but he is one of the most powerful coaches Pakistan ever had. Don’t see him going any time soon regardless of results.
 
Did you forget about WC19 opener against WI? To me that was way more humiliating than this. I can forgive this loss because it's an inconsequential series, we're on the road to a t20wc and experimenting with the playing XI. But there was no excuse for the loss to WI. We had months to prepare and acclimatize to the English conditions but we were caught like a deer in headlights on the grandest stage of all!

To each their own

Yes unfortunately Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz did not have power or balls to remove Malik from XI, Haris was sitting outside, they also did not remove failing Hafeez who did not score in 2019 WC. That's why I am against weak foreign coaches who're not sure if they will hold the position next morning hence are not bold enough apart from Umar Akmal Mickey was not bold enough and to be fair Umar Akmal was by now disliked by whole board so not a big feat, atleast Misbah holds his stance and has power, and I already mentioned above that Misbah is listening and changing so I'd give him till after t20 wc.
 
I think they'll keep him on until the T20 World Cup and see how the team does in that tournament.

Pakistan has a good team for the upcoming T20 world cup but the stubbornness of Misbah is damaging Pakistan's chances. He should have played Sharjeel all T20I games on this tour to get him back in form for T20 world cup. He should have realized both Sharjeel & Fakhar are must for Pakistan. You are not going to compete with big boys if you start with 2 accumulators Babar and Rizwan
 
Who actually runs Pakistan cricket? I mean who is the alpha?

Let me explain. For example in India- in on field cricketing matters Kohli is the guy with the final sign off. Shastri is the right amount of shrewd in knowing his boundaries,keeping his job and at the same time contributing whatever he can if he is asked. Administration wise Jay Shah and by proxy Modi is the final alpha. Now yes Dada is in the mix as BCCI administration but again Dada is the last guy you would expect to be a *******. Kohli respects Dada and at the same time Dada is alpha enough to stand up to Jay Shah or Jay Shah is smart enough to know Dada knows his cricket. So he becomes a perfect bridge. Selectors are dummy anyway.

Its pretty clear even to a layman this is how more or less things are in Indian cricket. Back in the day it was Dhoni-Srini.

Who runs Pakistan cricket? Where does the buck stop? Imran Khan,Misbah,Wasim Khan, Ehsan Mani,Babar Azam, The chief sector-Wasim?
 
Not a big fan of Misbah but Pakistan losing atleast one match to Zimbabwe in a year is always a given, please check our history against them. Fans need to stop being drama queens and move on.
 
If we lose the series, yes he should go. The wins vs SA means he is probably safe until the T20 WC. It would be ideal if PCB could split the coaching roles for Tests and LOI's. Misbah is doing fine in Tests, but is not doing as well in LOI's, especially T20's. Introducing somebody who is more progressive would be ideal, but it won't happen.
 
I think one thing is clear, this team is not winning the T20 world cup.
 
He needs to be booted out NOW. Not until the end of the series.
 
Yes..please...No strategy whatsoever. Same tested player are have been given chances,
What misbah is doing no one knows ?

Asif Ali for what reasons ?
Ifftikhar ahmed ?
Faheem ashraf ?
 
Absolutely he should be sacked. A negative defensive spineless clueless person. Our white ball cricket suffered massively when he was the captain. Still cant forget he and his proteges asad and azhar playing like scared kittens against zimbabwe in a test match in 2013.
He billed thìs t20 series agqinst zimbabwe as a 'tough contest' and thats what its turning out to be.
We just cannot afford this sort of mentality from a coach when our players are mostly average and mentally fragile.
Lesser talented teams in the past have played better with some fight, aggression, smartness and tact
 
I think we will have to suffer a world T20 debacle before seeing the end of him.

Limited overs- he has no clue.

If we are able to win, somehow, individual brilliance
 
Absolutely he should be sacked. A negative defensive spineless clueless person. Our white ball cricket suffered massively when he was the captain. Still cant forget he and his proteges asad and azhar playing like scared kittens against zimbabwe in a test match in 2013.
He billed thìs t20 series agqinst zimbabwe as a 'tough contest' and thats what its turning out to be.
We just cannot afford this sort of mentality from a coach when our players are mostly average and mentally fragile.
Lesser talented teams in the past have played better with some fight, aggression, smartness and tact

So you admit we have average and mentally fragile players, yet criticize Misbah for being a realist? He knows our limitations better than anybody
 
Keep him as test cricket coach, and replace him for white ball cricket. Misbah has no clue about LOI cricket and we can tell he still has the 80s mindset.
 
Fakhar, Babar and Rizwan gave him a new lease of life on the tour of SA.

He won't be removed and we'll regret it after the T20 WC

So true, he along with Waqar is the worst limited over combination.
They are the ones to blame by giving continuous chances to Asif Ali a, openers are not playing as openers and when your middle order is collapsing ; you're playing middle order batsmen as openers.
 
So you admit we have average and mentally fragile players, yet criticize Misbah for being a realist? He knows our limitations better than anybody

Yes we have average players who are mentally weak but not so weak that we start treating Zimbabwe as aussies of 2000's. I think misbah's pathetic mindset has rubbed off on to the players. As a coach u've got to instill some fight in your players but Misbah himself is a coward
 
Some trends will never change. They are reality:

Pro Misbah= “Pakistan doesn’t have the talent to compete”

Pro Misbah= “Everyone is playing poorly except Babar and Rizwan”

They are not wrong though
 
So you admit we have average and mentally fragile players, yet criticize Misbah for being a realist? He knows our limitations better than anybody

If his job is to be realistic by admitting we have average and mentally weak players. Than he should quit his job because he is not good enough to install a fighting spirit in these average mentally weak players.
 
Shouldn’t have been appointed at the first place without any experience

Atleast people should judge from his playing days that he wasn’t able to build a team , give chance to youngsters. Such a stubborn UAE bully.
 
Shouldn't have been appointed in first place...the bloke has 0 IQ and credentials.....
And lastly i m sure now the way he is treating Haider Ali.....he is responsible for the wastage of career of Akmal jnr ..atleast 49 percent....
 
Remove Misbah if team doesn't improve I'm ready to quit cricket today not talking of becoming number 1 , I'm talking of improvement that you see that they have worked on weak areas and batsman will play with lot more confidence and authority, right now if any sane cricket individual notices batsman aren't comfortable playing under this management.


The same Haider Ali was hitting sixes and fours in PSL against tougher bowling than Zimbabwe, if you see the ball he got out in first t20 he hits it for six in other tournament. He will also feature in CPL this season and see the performance there i can name 10s of cricketers who failed in this management and performed else where.
 
Remove Misbah if team doesn't improve I'm ready to quit cricket today not talking of becoming number 1 , I'm talking of improvement that you see that they have worked on weak areas and batsman will play with lot more confidence and authority, right now if any sane cricket individual notices batsman aren't comfortable playing under this management.


The same Haider Ali was hitting sixes and fours in PSL against tougher bowling than Zimbabwe, if you see the ball he got out in first t20 he hits it for six in other tournament. He will also feature in CPL this season and see the performance there i can name 10s of cricketers who failed in this management and performed else where.

Then what do you have to say about guys like Rizwan, Babar, Fakhar, Faheem and Hasan who have no problem keeping up their performance under the same management? 🤔

PSL was played on Pakistani pitches which Haider is used to. CPL is a party and the pressure there (or lack of) is not the same as international cricket
 
If his job is to be realistic by admitting we have average and mentally weak players. Than he should quit his job because he is not good enough to install a fighting spirit in these average mentally weak players.

He's the head coach not a psychologist
 
Then what do you have to say about guys like Rizwan, Babar, Fakhar, Faheem and Hasan who have no problem keeping up their performance under the same management? 🤔

PSL was played on Pakistani pitches which Haider is used to. CPL is a party and the pressure there (or lack of) is not the same as international cricket

Tell me 1 improvement since 2 years since misbah took over just 1?
 
Yes we have average players who are mentally weak but not so weak that we start treating Zimbabwe as aussies of 2000's. I think misbah's pathetic mindset has rubbed off on to the players. As a coach u've got to instill some fight in your players but Misbah himself is a coward

If he was a coward he would succumb to media and fan pressure to select the unfit, the fixers and the ttfs. He's not mentally weak at all. This was a t20, a format where any team can win on their day. Pak got complacent, that's all there is to it.
 
Tell me 1 improvement since 2 years since misbah took over just 1?

He's gotten rid of most ttfs. The ones that are there are on the edge. There's actual competition for spots now rather than a player taking their place for granted
 
Man this guy misbah has ruined Pakistan cricket for so long before as a captain and player and now he is doing it as a coach.This guy is like cancer.Sack him as soon as possible.
 
If he was a coward he would succumb to media and fan pressure to select the unfit, the fixers and the ttfs. He's not mentally weak at all. This was a t20, a format where any team can win on their day. Pak got complacent, that's all there is to it.

No i think zim vs pak is quite a rivalry now. We lost to them at home and now this. First match was also closely contested and last game is also going to be a nailbiter
 
He's gotten rid of most ttfs. The ones that are there are on the edge. There's actual competition for spots now rather than a player taking their place for granted

He brought Hafeez, Malik, Irfan, Wahab etc back what are you talking about. Its Muhammad wasim who should be credited for producing backups in spinners and pacers.
 
Man this guy misbah has ruined Pakistan cricket for so long before as a captain and player and now he is doing it as a coach.This guy is like cancer.Sack him as soon as possible.

He was always there as captain, coach, palyer whenever Pakistan lost to Zimbabwe ODI and that test match.
 
He brought Hafeez, Malik, Irfan, Wahab etc back what are you talking about. Its Muhammad wasim who should be credited for producing backups in spinners and pacers.

He's given players, including seniors fair chances until they perform. If they don't perform he's been quick to discard them with younger talent. Malik is having a dig at him, Irfan and Wahab are no where in current plans. Only one that's safe so far is Hafeez and that is only until he's in form
 
He was always there as captain, coach, palyer whenever Pakistan lost to Zimbabwe ODI and that test match.

So? We've been playing Zimbabwe alot as their board has been supportive of Pakistan cricket.

He's also always been there whenever we've beaten England and SA
 
I think they'll keep him on until the T20 World Cup and see how the team does in that tournament.

And that's the sane thing to do at this stage, would be unfair on any new management to come in this close to the WT20, and take responsibility for our performances in that tournament
 
I voted "other"..

Sacking him would be the easy route.
To prevent selections like Asif in the future he must be grilled properly.
Questions need to be asked and we need to hear his his thoughts processes behind the absurd selections.
 
He's given players, including seniors fair chances until they perform. If they don't perform he's been quick to discard them with younger talent. Malik is having a dig at him, Irfan and Wahab are no where in current plans. Only one that's safe so far is Hafeez and that is only until he's in form
I have to agree that Misbah has given seniors are youngsters fair chance to perform. Imad not being in team may not be his fault as it is job of selectors to pick the tour squad. It may be a good thing for Imad as he could work further on his bowling and make a return after good performance in PSL.
Unfortunately batting talent is thin in Pakistan due to lack of quality exposure to cricket for youngsters,and lack of professional training.pakistan took too long to find alternatives for likes of Hafeez, Umar, Malik, Shazad.
 
He's the head coach not a psychologist

You don’t need to be a psychologist to install a fighting spirit with in weak minded individual's. Coaches are paid to work on the players tactics. Part of there job is to try to get the best out of the players. They should be able to know exactly what makes there players click.
 
I think its more his man-management skills and his control freak nature that is causing problems in the dressing room. Players want Babar to be the leader on and off the field and the coach to take a back-seat. Misbah is not letting Babar take charge and that is where the problem lies.

By the way, I think there is a full-on mutiny in the works here which also include the support coaches. Both Waqar Younis and Younis Khan held press conferences where they deliberately let it slip that Misbah has the final say in selection. Shoaib Malik has come out at a time when he was almost guaranteed to get a recall for the England series and the subsequent World T20 makes me think he didn't just comment on his own but there is a whole group of people who put him up to it.
 
No need to sack Misbah - just need Imad Wasim and Haris Sohail back into the squad.

Problem isnt Misbah - its the players.
 
No need to sack Misbah - just need Imad Wasim and Haris Sohail back into the squad.

Problem isnt Misbah - its the players.

Haris Sohail , seriously ? He would need a runner while batting and ICC won't allow it. Is he not the same guy who failed miserably in last SENA tour.
 
And that's the sane thing to do at this stage, would be unfair on any new management to come in this close to the WT20, and take responsibility for our performances in that tournament

Who cares how fair it is though. Misbah has our team in a shambles in a WC year. He doesn't deserve to lead the team nor is he the best man to do so. Every day you keep him on only compounds the mistake of hiring him in the first place.

Tottenham decided to sack Mourinho before a cup final, Pakistan can take a bold step to do something similar here.
 
Don't know why fans think Misbah will be sacked based on recent poor performances against S Africa D or Zimbabwe B team. PCB may not even aware about these 2 teams' inferior XI. PCB is happy to take few victories against S Africa in S Africa even though its their C or D team. PCB doesn't really care to be top 2-3 teams by investing good coaches, planning or facilities. They are too lazy to do any homework and lack of passion for the sake of our cricket.
 
We're just going to dither along until the WC and we will be embarrassed by some world class teams in that tournament who have coaching staff that actually knows how to develop young players and has nailed down their team selection months in advance. Then after a poor showing, this incompetent coaching team that has zero qualifications and are way out of their depth will be sacked. I just hope PCB can actually make a serious hire after inevitably sacking Misbah. We cannot afford more incompetence like this.
 
After winning a series against Zimbabwe B team it will be heart breaking to see him go.
 
Lets reward Misbah with five year extension after winning the series against Zimbabwe B team .
 
Pakistan has no talent and is among the worst teams in the world. Therefore, sacking Misbah will not make the team perform better because the quality is simply not there.

Even the best coach in the world cannot do much when the players have no ability to perform at this level.

However, we are a in results based business and you cannot keep a coach forever just because it is not his fault. When you don’t win, you have to make way for others.

After playing minnow level cricket against Zimbabwe in the T20Is, a hiccup in the Test series should be enough for Misbah to be shown the door.

Unfortunately, Wasim Khan does not have the spine to stand up to Misbah. He scrapped the dual role which he labeled a necessary innovation simply because Misbah was not comfortable with handling both the selector and coaching positions, and he then asked Misbah to choose between the two jobs and Misbah naturally went towards the more lucrative one.

Misbah was appointed under the table and he will not be removed as coach as long as doesn’t quit himself. This is the result of PCB’s weak leadership.
 
Mickey Arthur, in spite of fluking the Champions Trophy, was not offered a contract extension after the 2019 World Cup because Pakistan had lost around 80% of its matches in 2018-19.

Between the 2018 Asia Cup and the 2019 World Cup, Pakistan played like an associate team and had a 12 match losing streak at one point.

That was enough for PCB to decide that his time was up even though it was down to the lack of quality in the team.

It is the same reason why Pakistan is struggling today. Misbah may or may not be a poor coach, but the team is rubbish and hence cannot play world class cricket.

As a result, it would be unfair to keep Misbah in the job because the team is not good enough when the same leniency was not extended to Arthur.

Misbah himself is fully aware of the caliber of this team, and he doesn’t care because he is still pocketing a hefty paycheck every month.

He is not even bothered about giving fake positive statements in the media like Arthur used to because he has too much leverage on PCB and doesn’t need to say the right things to stay in the job.

Misbah is almost a dictator right now and the captain is his puppet. This is PCB’s failing and lack of leadership.
 
I said two years ago that Misbah was the PCB Tzar.

Nothing has changed.
 
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