Should Mohammad Hafeez retire from ODIs?

[Saj]

He looked sluggish for most of the World Cup.

Dropped catches, misfields, no input in helping Sarfaraz Ahmed with key decisions.

His average with the bat was 31.62 after scoring 253 runs in 8 innings. His strike-rate was 88.77.

With the ball he was a huge disappointment - 2 wickets for 189 runs at an average of 94.50 and an economy rate of 5.90.

We've seen Shoaib Malik call it a day in ODIs should Hafeez do the same?

 

[farazaidi]

He should retire from all formats, full stop

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Definitely

 

[happydavy]

Don't think he has a choice. Retirement will be graceful.

 

[blackanhyellow]

I know he's no shakib, but he is better than what he showed in this world cup.

Funny thing is, he played good looking shots, so he wasn't totally out of form. I honestly don't know what happened but he found ridiculous ways to throw away his wicket.

 

[Shafi]

From history none of our senior players entire gracefully including Wasim, Miandad, Waqar or Inzi. Its upto our selector now. Hopefully Wasim Khan will appoint new selection committee who will work independently and with merit and get rid of these useless oldies.

 

[Titan24]

Every career has an end and I think its time for Hafeez to hang his boots.

He is 38 and is not gonna get any younger, so we should develop a side for the future.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

He's on the decline. Just isn't as good with both bat and ball. 2013-16 was his peak but now he's just a a passenger

 

[Green Patriot]

He definitely should.
But he is probably waiting for captaincy if Sarfaraz is dropped since seniors are always preffered and than he can pad up his stats in our next series against Lanka.

 

[superfan]

Hafeez is the face of mediocrity. It's unfortunate for Pakistan that the team couldn't find a better option to replace him. He has been a filler for the most part of his career, and he can also be blamed for more losses than for being a match winner. At his listed age of 38, if he's still trying to continue playing then I'm loss for words. If anyone out there thinks that he should continue then they must think Pakistan should aim for 100 runs in the first 30 overs without losing a wicket.

 

[Mueez]

Why do I think Hafeez will get the ODI captaincy...?

Chacha Hafeez will retire after WC 2023...

 

[goran]

If he doesn't retire, then it's up to the selectors to drop him for good. It's high time to re-build the team around youngsters and get rid of deadwood.

 

[rhony]

It's that T20 spot he and Malik are after. There are no ODIs in the next few months and they are not part of the tests. They both want to play T20 WC and want to be Marquee players in PSL and other T20 leagues. Malik realized he will be dumped entirely if he doesn't quit ODIs. Hafeez just chose a different option.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Yes he should retire as well. Respectfully.

 

[Hawkeye]

Malik deserves the boot much more than Hafeez. From T20s.

 

[saeed5646]

He needs to be kick out of side if he has no intention of retiring

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Hafeez is officially 38. He'll be 42 when the next World Cup comes around. Suffice to say he'll be a bigger liability in the field. Hope we find his replacement who is technically equipped and mentally prepared to take up the job.

 

[Bewal Express]

Only in PK can he still be considered for selection. The guy Should have been dropped after the 2011 WC and here we are today in 2019, still talking about whether this terrible player should retire.

 

[Bewal Express]

Malik deserves the boot much more than Hafeez. From T20s.

Both are awful,and both should have gone along time ago.

 

[JibranAnsari]

He should not be considered any further whether he retires or not.

Anyone who has no chance of playing the next world cup should not be considered for odis anymore.

 

[Mamoon]

He should. He is too old and didn’t play with responsibility. The way he got out to spinners repeatedly sums it up.

He has been scapegoated easily in the past and has been decent enough to make the team on merit, but now his time is up. He offers nothing moving forward.

It will be in his best interests if he announces his retirement from international cricket. He has a good cricketing brain and he can serve Pakistan cricket in various capacities.

 

[saeed5646]

Malik deserves the boot much more than Hafeez. From T20s.

Both needs to be kick out .on current form and keeping in mind t20 worldcup will be in aus haris deserves to be in t20 ahead of these 2 .both are dude against pace and don't see them doing anything in aus pitches

 

[Sunny_majoka]

He should but he won't.
He will be misbah v.2

 

[Majid Khan]

To build a great team, you ideally need 11 players who can contribute and all have the potential to become world class, which means batsmen with potential to average 50 plus and score 100s and bowlers who can average under 30 ideally.

My biggest grievance is that players who NEVER looked like they could average 50 with bat or under 30 with ball at any stage in their career, should never have places so secure in the team and play at the top level for so many years— instead you should keep trying new players until you find one that has what it takes, a potential Haris Sohail or Babar Azam.

 

[Artaxerxes]

He should be kicked out if he doesn't retire.

 

[Majid Khan]

Out of curiosity , given that Hafeez in top form only managed one 50 out of 8 innings in this World Cup — does anyone know what’s the highest number of scores over 50 Hafeez has made as a batsman in any ICC tournament?

 

[miandadrules]

From all forms.

Has exhibited a toxic combination of narcissism and mental fragility throughout his career.

He should never had batted above 6 in his entire career in any format. Yet he has rarely batted lower 4.

Hafeez should have been a bowling all rounder batting no higher than 6 and somehow we made him an opening batsman for a decade and a number 4 for another 5 years.

Either the PCB is incompetent or corrupt. Most likely both.

 

[Pakpak]

He's almost 41, I know that for a fact personally. He should retire.

 

[sharmaji]

Yes please. He is spoiling his name by continuing to play, just like Shoaib Malik. Both should retire from all forms of international cricket.

 

[Zaz]

He looked sluggish for most of the World Cup.

Dropped catches, misfields, no input in helping Sarfaraz Ahmed with key decisions.

His average with the bat was 31.62 after scoring 253 runs in 8 innings. His strike-rate was 88.77.

With the ball he was a huge disappointment - 2 wickets for 189 runs at an average of 94.50 and an economy rate of 5.90.

We've seen Shoaib Malik call it a day in ODIs should Hafeez do the same?

Its been typical of his career stats

Pretty 20s and 30s and then soft dismissals Innocuous with the ball and poor in the field Ur seniors are supposed to be the better players in the team but pakistans have been horrid and just held the team back

Ita high time Hafeez should follow malik into the sunset The team needs new blood and a couple of 38 years old past their expiry date are not needed

 

[Kianig89]

No he should be kicked out of this young vibrant side uncles like him have no place now

 

[Hasan123]

Yes he should retire. He has always been an average player and has gotten worse with age. We need to move on.

 

[Markhor]

Yes.

However I do think despite his inflated sense of his own worth, he has a decent cricketing brain.

I hope he gets his coaching qualifications and coaches one of the 6 new FC teams.

 

[aloo paratha]

He shouldn't retire. He should be kicked out from the team in all formats.

 

[Kianig89]

Hafeez as coach would mean all openers got out in slips in domestic though as an advantage this would improve slip catching in FC

 

[msb314]

Needs to retire ASAP

 

[Sherlock]

The question isn't "if" he should retire but why hasn't he already done so?

 

[Pete Rose]

He will go kicking and screaming

 

[IMMY69]

�� he should retire.
Save himself from the embarrassment of being dropped

 

[Chokli]

Time to retire!

 

[The Viper]

Ideally. It would be better if he retires himself rather than being booted out.

 

[Fahdi]

His time should be up now.

 

[Mercurial]

Not sure why is he silent or kind of hiding after Malik's announcement? Lets see what will he say.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

He looked sluggish for most of the World Cup.

Dropped catches, misfields, no input in helping Sarfaraz Ahmed with key decisions.

His average with the bat was 31.62 after scoring 253 runs in 8 innings. His strike-rate was 88.77.

With the ball he was a huge disappointment - 2 wickets for 189 runs at an average of 94.50 and an economy rate of 5.90.

We've seen Shoaib Malik call it a day in ODIs should Hafeez do the same?

y do i smell a question in there? lol ... he SHOULD retire ...

 

[Boycottisno2]

if hafeez does not retire .... simply dont pick him..... even if he cries

 

[MenInG]

Poll added to thread.

 

[Abdullah719]

Out of curiosity , given that Hafeez in top form only managed one 50 out of 8 innings in this World Cup — does anyone know what’s the highest number of scores over 50 Hafeez has made as a batsman in any ICC tournament?

His record in ICC tournaments i.e. World Cups and Champions Trophies:

 

[Hasan123]

His record in ICC tournaments i.e. World Cups and Champions Trophies:

Another choker.

 

[sweep_shot]

Hafeez started his career almost 20 years ago. Now that WC is over, he should retire.

 

[gazza619]

If Hafeez is part of our post WC plans then we are doomed!

 

[topspin]

Whether we like it or not, the hard truth is Misbah has set a bad precedent here, when it comes to timing your last game and leaving with dignity.

With the example Misbah has set, the players in the 28-32 age group of this generation will inevitably feel they are young and they have at least 8-10 years of cricket left in them.

Hafeez will shamelessly cling on like Misbah is currently doing in PSL and domestic cricket.

As per PCB's seniority culture, do not be surprised if professor saab is the next captain.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Hafeez needs to retire, haris can bat at 4 however who do we have to replace hafeez as a batsman?

 

[Mir jibran]

Should be kicked out now

 

[shah_1]

Should be thrown out of the team

It was embarrassing to see him field. Yo Yo test is just a facade for this team. How could Hafeez pass the fitness test?

 

[shah_1]

Hafeez needs to retire, haris can bat at 4 however who do we have to replace hafeez as a batsman?

Saud Shakeel

 

[mesmerizer85]

Yes,, as he is stopping the path to groom a youngster for the next WC , much like shoaib and himself did for so many years .These oldies having 30+ average in todays modern cricket era is pathetic by all means.

 

[soulhunter]

Umer Akmal will take his place. Middle order of babar, harris and umer akmal seems ok for the modern game. Imad is pretty good against pace but weak against spin. Next world cup is in india so we need better players of spin. They will have to improve their footwork against spin otherwise 0 chance in 2023.

 

[Savak]

If he doesn't retire, the selectors will not pick him.

 

[Majid Khan]

His record in ICC tournaments i.e. World Cups and Champions Trophies:

Thanks Abdullah, so if I’ve read that correct in all ICC tournaments that Hafeez played from 2006 to 2019, that’s 29 ODI innings he has batted and scored 3 fifties , and no century.

That’s just what I had assumed, 1 in 10 innings success and even that is a modest 50 usually against an average bowling attack in batsmen friendly conditions.

What genius , those ‘brains’ that selected his name probably first on the team sheet every time on the basis of his classy batting - does this not deserve an inquiry or at least some academic research as to how a flop player managed to play so many ICC tournaments from 2006 to 2019? And if he decides not to retire and carry on like Misbah till mid 40s , there is NO power in the world that will stop him from playing the next World Cup too — after all his ‘experience’ will sell even more in 4 years time

 

[Kianig89]

A mediocre player lingered on for 16 yrs and even played 3 WC Pakistan certainly deserved something better but the lobbies in PcB, Hafeez should be thrown out and must not be part of any PCB plans with regard to coaching etc

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Yes off course.


Without any doubt.

 

[Majid Khan]

Also bear in mind when you see Hafeez’s stats above in ICC tournaments from 2006 to 2017.. in this time Hafeez only scored two 50s.

Yes two 50s in that many years, a feat which Haris Sohail matched in two consecutive innings in this World Cup — and no surprises now because Haris has been the most consistent batsman for Pakistan over last couple of years — but go back to the start of the World Cup, why and how does that logic work that Hafeez has a more secure place in the team than Haris?

 

[hadi123]

What a one sided poll! He has to retire, but it doesn't seem like he has any intentions to. An extremely selfish man.

He can carry on in T20's, possibly with his swansong in the 2020 WC

 

[Mercurial]

If we really want to build up for the next WC, then Hafeez, Malik and Wahab have to go. Wahab was ok in this WC, didn't out perform Shinwari at all, he must retire as well, he is just occupying a spot which should belong to a youngster below 30.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Yes. He won't play the 2023 WC. Might as well retire. Not like he's chasing some record.

 

[Majid Khan]

Yes. He won't play the 2023 WC. Might as well retire. Not like he's chasing some record.

The one amazing record he’s achieved so far in his illustrious career in ODI cricket is the batsman who has played more World Cups than the number of 50s he’s scored. Yes, Hafeez has played in 4 World Cups so far: 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 and he has scored an overall tally of two 50s in these World Cups.

Can he make it to 5 World Cups, I wouldn’t rule it out.

 

[Gullycricket]

If a legend like Dhoni will retire after this WC,why should Hafeez continue...His experience has been worth nothing in this WC.PCB needs to tell him he won't be selected again but sadly he has powerful friends like Mohsin etc who will still advocate his playing.The other even Shoiab Akhtar was also rooting for him

 

[moghul]

Why he has to retire to be not in the team, retires or not he should be dropped for good now.

These selfish Pakistani players, don;t care about the team, leave it to them and they will stick around for ever.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I agree that he would make a great coach. He'd make an excellent coach for not only opening batsmen who need to play outswing bowling but also for offspinners who need to be effective in ODIs. Add in the fact that he was a good tactician and knew how to establish himself for 16 years and we are looking at a future Pakistan coach here.

 

[AdamM97]

Yes he should retire, but do we have a good replacement for him?

 

[Majid Khan]

I agree that he would make a great coach. He'd make an excellent coach for not only opening batsmen who need to play outswing bowling but also for offspinners who need to be effective in ODIs. Add in the fact that he was a good tactician and knew how to establish himself for 16 years and we are looking at a future Pakistan coach here.

Agree he would make an excellent coach for opening batsman given that the Professor has enough knowledge and experience to write a series of books on 101 ways how NOT to bat against fast bowling, inswing bowling, outswing bowling, pace and bounce - he’s just got to go through video highlights of his own dismissals and there’s enough coaching material there to teach any youngster how NOT to bat.

 

[HamzaSaeen]

Should've retired after the champions trophy
As for coaching, he should open an academy producing specialist fielders in midwicket region

 

[DHONI183]

He should really. Give me one reason why he should stay?

Hafeez was a one-innings wonder: sometimes in a series, in a month or even a whole year. He was a terrific timer of the ball, one of the best from Pakistan after Saeed Anwar perhaps, and on his day he made you wondered as to why he can´t do it more consistently, but I suppose he just wasn´t good enough. Quite handy as an all-rounder though, but his batting always had question marks hanging on it. His economical spin bowling and the ability to dry up the runs at any given stage was a huge asset, and it made him an ideal bowler for the captain, but he should´ve had some batting to speak of, surely.

He was never the greatest batsman to begin with, but once his bowling action was put under the scanner, his career went further downwards. Still though, a blistering fifty against India in the ICC Champions Trophy Final 2017 is an innings that he´ll cherish forever. It took the game way from India, making a big total into almost a mountain to climb. A wonderful innings. Apart from that, there must be a few more here and there occasionally, like the one against England in the ongoing World Cup.

So yeah, retire sir and I´ll wish you all the best. I do that anyway!

 

[hisham_ashraf]

Without a doubt!

But he won't...
He gifted his wickets at key stages during the matches and that is what is most disappointing.If a SENIOR gets out in the fashion that he got out then it's better to not play SENIORS.
He was extremely lethargic in the field but having said that I don't agree with the OP as I don't think he dropped catches.
His ground fielding was poor but catching was fine.
A disappointing WC for him.One good innings,that's it.

 

[moghul]

Agree he would make an excellent coach for opening batsman given that the Professor has enough knowledge and experience to write a series of books on 101 ways how NOT to bat against fast bowling, inswing bowling, outswing bowling, pace and bounce - he’s just got to go through video highlights of his own dismissals and there’s enough coaching material there to teach any youngster how NOT to bat.

Just watch Hafeez's video playing fast bowlers as an opener and bowling off spin and just don;t that and you will be fine.

A bunny against all good opening bowlers and a chucker, banned multiple times , will make a perfect coach.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why this senior and junior culture in Pakistan cricket needs to end - Sarfaraz Ahmed "you always try to bat your senior player in the same position in each match" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <a href="https://t.co/tA91hq7Blk">pic.twitter.com/tA91hq7Blk</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1147875504541884418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Majid Khan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why this senior and junior culture in Pakistan cricket needs to end - Sarfaraz Ahmed "you always try to bat your senior player in the same position in each match" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <a href="https://t.co/tA91hq7Blk">pic.twitter.com/tA91hq7Blk</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1147875504541884418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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After hearing those compliments for our ‘senior’ most player Hafeez and his experience, I’m just glad and relieved I don’t take Pakistan cricket seriously anymore — good luck to Sarfraz if this is the legend you look up to for his experience, and ignoring advice of the PM to win the toss and bat against India probably makes sense now, you and your ‘senior’ leadership team are clearly way smarter , what does IK know about cricket

 

[MenInG]

Problem is Hafeez has many friends in the media - they will carry on the pressure on PCB and stop them from taking the right decisions.

 

[mak36]

Problem is Hafeez has many friends in the media - they will carry on the pressure on PCB and stop them from taking the right decisions.

What is he hanging on for?

 

[Majid Khan]

What is he hanging on for?

To break Imran Khan and Javed Miandad’s record of playing most World Cups for Pakistan, maybe? Hafeez has already played 4 and scored two majestic half-centuries and so many splendid quarter-centuries.. even Miandad would be envious.