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Should Mohammad Hafeez retire from ODIs?

Should Mohammad Hafeez retire from ODIs?

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This just proves that Sarfraz is a spineless captain who wanted to keep his seniors happy instead of thinking about the team.

Hafeez should retire with some dignity left or he will be treated the same way his seniors were treated.. Our players don't believe in leaving gracefully.
 
Reports coming out in the media that Hafeez has turned down the news of him retiring from ODIs. He wishes to serve the team until 'he feels he can contribute' and has his eyes on the T20 World Cup next year :)
 
Abdullah719 said:
Reports coming out in the media that Hafeez has turned down the news of him retiring from ODIs. He wishes to serve the team until 'he feels he can contribute' and has his eyes on the T20 World Cup next year :)
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Does he want to play 2023 World Cup?
 
Abdullah719 said:
Reports coming out in the media that Hafeez has turned down the news of him retiring from ODIs. He wishes to serve the team until 'he feels he can contribute' and has his eyes on the T20 World Cup next year :)
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He is either deluded or narcissistic.
 
Don't think Hafeez's body will cope another 2 years. His health will force him to retire.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Reports coming out in the media that Hafeez has turned down the news of him retiring from ODIs. He wishes to serve the team until 'he feels he can contribute' and has his eyes on the T20 World Cup next year :)
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Maaf kardo bhai... why can't these "bhais" see that their time is up. Hardly a Pak cricketer has ever left on their own terms rather than being booted out.
 
Pakistani players are greedy - they will always like to be thrown out. They do not understand the concept of retirement. I say start building the team right now.
 
So we will be granted the prestigious occasion of seeing him twirl his newfound mustache for at least one more year.
 
blackanhyellow said:
I know he's no shakib, but he is better than what he showed in this world cup.

Funny thing is, he played good looking shots, so he wasn't totally out of form. I honestly don't know what happened but he found ridiculous ways to throw away his wicket.
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story of his career.
will bat like an all time great for 20 to 30 odd runs and then gift his wicket away.

lucky to have played for 16 years.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Reports coming out in the media that Hafeez has turned down the news of him retiring from ODIs. He wishes to serve the team until 'he feels he can contribute' and has his eyes on the T20 World Cup next year :)
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Shameless fellow.Now atleast let us rebuild our team.Dont know what contribution he is talking about.
 
Majid Khan said:
The one amazing record he’s achieved so far in his illustrious career in ODI cricket is the batsman who has played more World Cups than the number of 50s he’s scored. Yes, Hafeez has played in 4 World Cups so far: 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 and he has scored an overall tally of two 50s in these World Cups.

Can he make it to 5 World Cups, I wouldn’t rule it out.
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I’m no fan of Hafeez but he didn’t play 2015 World Cup . Either way he needs to go
 
Let him not retire, simply don’t pick him in the team.
 
Majid Khan said:
Thanks Abdullah, so if I’ve read that correct in all ICC tournaments that Hafeez played from 2006 to 2019, that’s 29 ODI innings he has batted and scored 3 fifties , and no century.

That’s just what I had assumed, 1 in 10 innings success and even that is a modest 50 usually against an average bowling attack in batsmen friendly conditions.

What genius , those ‘brains’ that selected his name probably first on the team sheet every time on the basis of his classy batting - does this not deserve an inquiry or at least some academic research as to how a flop player managed to play so many ICC tournaments from 2006 to 2019? And if he decides not to retire and carry on like Misbah till mid 40s , there is NO power in the world that will stop him from playing the next World Cup too — after all his ‘experience’ will sell even more in 4 years time
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If you add his record in the World t20s his average wil go down further . He averages like 22 across 3 t20 world cups . Such a curse to the team honestly. He’s a bonafide mental midget and never been a man for a crisis on the biggest stage
 
No offence to Hafeez but when is he planning to retire? The guy is 38, played since late 90s and still trying to cling onto the team. Next big tournament is WT20 next year, i've been a fan of Inzi's batting but if Hafeez sahab gets picked for another game then 21 topo ki salute to Inzi bhai 💣
 
GreenKhan said:
If you add his record in the World t20s his average wil go down further . He averages like 22 across 3 t20 world cups . Such a curse to the team honestly. He’s a bonafide mental midget and never been a man for a crisis on the biggest stage
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Hitman said:
Let him not retire, simply don’t pick him in the team.
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exactly but they do, why? look at Dhoni should have retired on a high instead he is getting negative publicity. He too got rid of two players who were overage and were past their best.

the problem i have is that asian players play past their sell-by date and continue to play, they never give youth a chance and they never try to mould someone into that position by giving assistance.

Greedy selfish players who put there success above country.
 
Hafeez should definitely step aside for a youngster, clinging on to fame and money is not right.

Remember country is always first.
 
Why is this even a question. If he doesn’t retire, don’t pick him.
 
i am sure he has more sense than that...with that average one must think he is a tail ender
 
The answers on the poll clearly show that everyone wants Hafeez to go.
I accidentally clicked on the option which said that he should stay,how does one undo this blunder?
 
hisham_ashraf said:
The answers on the poll clearly show that everyone wants Hafeez to go.
I accidentally clicked on the option which said that he should stay,how does one undo this blunder?
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Don’t worry PCB have been making the same mistake for 20 years.

There is no way to undo it unfortunately.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Reports coming out in the media that Hafeez has turned down the news of him retiring from ODIs. He wishes to serve the team until 'he feels he can contribute' and has his eyes on the T20 World Cup next year :)
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Oh GOD. Save us
It will be terrible watching him play again. Can any not show him this pp thread
 
Up to Hafeez if he retires or not. But if a PCB employed selector selects him to play at this age and after this tournament then they should be whipped in public
 
hisham_ashraf said:
The answers on the poll clearly show that everyone wants Hafeez to go.
I accidentally clicked on the option which said that he should stay,how does one undo this blunder?
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I think Inzi made the same mistake.
 
He bottled every game he played in this world cup except the one against england where roy gave him a life.
A nothing cricketer with a meek disposition: should not select him ever again.
 
Time to make a statement and get rid of Hafeez for good. This practice of retaining seniors beyond their capability needs to change.
 
GreenKhan said:
Embarrassing stuff . Don’t selectors and media etc see this figures. He’s “experienced” at failing on the biggest stage
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Indeed - so these stats for T20 and earlier for ODI World Cups show that in 49 innings Hafeez has gone out to bat representing Pakistan on the biggest stage, this legend of all legends has scored 4 half-centuries , yes just 4 times in 49 outings — and he’s supposedly selected before anyone else for the big tournaments because that’s where his ‘experience’ is meant to count for something ..

and they keep selecting him, what a celebration of mediocrity!
 
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Shouldn’t even be a question, we have to learn to stop looking backwards, so experienced that he chucked his wicket away with stupid shots each innings!
 
Majid Khan said:
Indeed - so these stats for T20 and earlier for ODI World Cups show that in 49 innings Hafeez has gone out to bat representing Pakistan on the biggest stage, this legend of all legends has scored 4 half-centuries , yes just 4 times in 49 outings — and he’s supposedly selected before anyone else for the big tournaments because that’s where his ‘experience’ is meant to count for something ..

and they keep selecting him, what a celebration of mediocrity!
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My miscalculation - it’s even worse than that.

It’s not 4 out of 49, it’s 4 half centuries out of 53 innings. (29 ODIs + 24 T20s).

What’s that as a percentage to predict the probability of Hafeez being successful when going out to bat in a big match, where success is getting 50 or more - I’m getting 7.5% chance of success , not exactly impressive is it for the player in your team who has the most secure place in the team of all for nearly 15 years?
 
Even if Hafeez doesn't elect to retire, PCB should give him some "rest" in the upcoming tours. Slowly phase him out and eventually he will call it a day.
 
If he is in the team after the WC, if he isn’t performing he is likely to be dropped. Look at Sarfraz statements, he said you have to always back the senior players :facepalm:

Look at Australia in 2015 when they won the WC, Johnson , Haddin, Watson, and Clarke all retired after the WC. I think all 4 retired from international cricket within a year. Hafeez is nearly 40. He should not be selected. He is only going to get worse. Getting out to part timers isn’t a coincidence.
 
Majid Khan said:
Agree he would make an excellent coach for opening batsman given that the Professor has enough knowledge and experience to write a series of books on 101 ways how NOT to bat against fast bowling, inswing bowling, outswing bowling, pace and bounce - he’s just got to go through video highlights of his own dismissals and there’s enough coaching material there to teach any youngster how NOT to bat.
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This is savage lool :))

I would prefer him to be a commentator and be the voice of Pakistan cricket. We genuinely need someone half decent to take Ramiz Raja's place as team's main rep. in the comm. box.
 
aukhan said:
This just proves that Sarfraz is a spineless captain who wanted to keep his seniors happy instead of thinking about the team.

Hafeez should retire with some dignity left or he will be treated the same way his seniors were treated.. Our players don't believe in leaving gracefully.
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I don't blame Sarfraz because he knows he sets the worst example for this team, so if he was to impose the retirements of our seniors like Hafeez and Malik, he would be next man to follow the same fate imminently .
 
Title of this thread should be changed to “Why hasn’t Hafeez retired yet”
 
topspin said:
This is savage lool :))

I would prefer him to be a commentator and be the voice of Pakistan cricket. We genuinely need someone half decent to take Ramiz Raja's place as team's main rep. in the comm. box.
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Well talking about 101 ways how not to bat against extreme pace, here’s some top quality coaching material :

Shoaib Akhtar v Mohammed Hafeez

https://youtu.be/tAnztrQEsL8

Watch from 1 min 25 seconds — notice how the stump is cartwheeling at the same time as the batsman completing his follow through.
 
Majid Khan said:
Well talking about 101 ways how not to bat against extreme pace, here’s some top quality coaching material :

Shoaib Akhtar v Mohammed Hafeez

https://youtu.be/tAnztrQEsL8

Watch from 1 min 25 seconds — notice how the stump is cartwheeling at the same time as the batsman completing his follow through.
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I remember this and oh dear he was 10 years late on that lol. Did you see how he hopeless professor saab was against Lockie Ferguson? He looked all over the place...

Somehow he rates Gul as a better bowler than Akhtar for Pakistan cricket :yk
 
Hafeez is needed during the rebuilding phase of the team. His experience is invaluable to thrle youngster. I think pak need him for a year or 2 during this difficult period. Possibly can take over the captaincy from sarfraz until babar is ready.
 
BalluBalleBaaz said:
No offence to Hafeez but when is he planning to retire? The guy is 38, played since late 90s and still trying to cling onto the team. Next big tournament is WT20 next year, i've been a fan of Inzi's batting but if Hafeez sahab gets picked for another game then 21 topo ki salute to Inzi bhai ��
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He is indeed really old, started his domestic career in the late 90s, whoa.
 
Some people are saying he is being considered as the next ODI captain ? How true this news is?
 
For sure it is time for him to quit. Despite having so many critics over the years he hasn't done that bad a job. Time to gradually introduce the next generation.
 
There is no excuse left for not retiring now. The next world cup is in 4 years and no way should Pakistan take a batsman to the tournament who will be officially 43 years old.

Haris at #4 and Rizwan at #5 are good enough replacements for Hafeez and Malik.
 
Any news on Hafeez retirement plans?

I was planning to come out of retirement as a Pakistan fan again after World Cup 2019 in the hope that Pakistan might start playing with 11 players once more after playing with 10 and sometimes less for most of the last decade and half.

Malik has retired and done his bit for Pakistan cricket, hoping others follow his example.
 
Majid Khan said:
Any news on Hafeez retirement plans?

I was planning to come out of retirement as a Pakistan fan again after World Cup 2019 in the hope that Pakistan might start playing with 11 players once more after playing with 10 and sometimes less for most of the last decade and half.

Malik has retired and done his bit for Pakistan cricket, hoping others follow his example.
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Another media outlet today published a story saying that he has no intention of retiring. So that's the update for you...
 
Hafeez in odis

We saw how the team almost got through the finish line but our middle order disappointed again. Hafeez has been in the form of his life and is regularly playing big innings in t20s. If we can get those runs in odis Pakistan can really benefit from those as he has the ability to score quick runs at the last 20 overs of a match.

Is it time to consider Hafeez for 2023 world Cup and make a place for him in the team?
 
Hafeez should be leading us in the next WC. Babar should worry about his batting more than anything. Scoring useless runs, Pakistan’s Tendulkar.
 
Let's not get carried away. Just because he is having a purple patch in T20Is doesn't mean the same will translate to ODIs.

His ODI career has been done for two years according to his own admission. Besides Pakistan has a perfectly capable group of 11-15 players; many of whom such as Imad Wasim and Haris Sohail aren't even selected.

Bringing back 40 year old Hafeez though is not the solution. Selecting the right players is.
 
Time to move on from hafeez, just because we are selecting garbage players like danish / Asif / Shadab it doesnt mean we revert back to hafeez.

Its bout time we groomed haider Ali and another batsmen in for number 5 and 6 spots in the team over next 2 years.
 
We should move on from Hafeez we should back haider ali,saud shakeel.no point going back to a 40 year old.
 
When did Hafeez retire from ODIs? I don’t seem to recall his retirement.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
He didn't. I did some Google searching around and several articles said he has NOT retired from ODIs.
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Hasn't played a game since the World Cup and nor did he participate in the Pakistan Cup, need to move on from Hafeez and allow him to focus on the t20 Cup coming up. Plus is he fit for ODIs?
 
HappyWarsFan said:
He didn't. I did some Google searching around and several articles said he has NOT retired from ODIs.
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Thought so. [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] should get a warning for spreading fake news.

Hafeez walks into the ODI side any day of the week.
 
shamaan said:
We should move on from Hafeez we should back haider ali,saud shakeel.no point going back to a 40 year old.
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Exactly mate, he's not gonna make it for the next 50-over World Cup and management need to be realistic of that matter, add to boot he's not played a List-A/ODI since the World Cup and so the question is is he able to handle playing the longer version now?

This is the problem people reverting back as oppose to moving forward, need to groom future prospects now that will be part of the 50-over World Cup.
 
Pakistan can try to move on from Hafeez. But when the next best alternative is apparently Danish and Asif then what other choice is there :))
 
Shoaibbtt said:
This is the problem people reverting back as oppose to moving forward, need to groom future prospects now that will be part of the 50-over World Cup.
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There's nobody to groom. The list of TTF's is endless. Even Chacha has been tried. Unless Saud Shakeel can develop a power game in the next two years then Hafeez might walk into the side in 2023.
 
hitthestump said:
There's nobody to groom. The list of TTF's is endless. Even Chacha has been tried. Unless Saud Shakeel can develop a power game in the next two years then Hafeez might walk into the side in 2023.
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Well there's a few to hand still, Kamran Ghulam had a good Pakistan Cup which people forget plus Hammad Azam has looked good of late. They also should call the bluff of Abdullah's selection and have him play rather than warm the bench, there are players other than Hafeez and that's what people need to realise.
 
hitthestump said:
Pakistan can try to move on from Hafeez. But when the next best alternative is apparently Danish and Asif then what other choice is there :))
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Danish was a good pick, not management's fault he didn't come off but again 2 ODIs is not enough to conclude a player isn't good enough.
 
Mamoon said:
Thought so. [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] should get a warning for spreading fake news.

Hafeez walks into the ODI side any day of the week.
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HAHAHA. Some bent up frustration coming out here bro?
 
Hes never performed well in world cups and pakistan dont need to go into another world cup selecting another has been.
 
Less not get overboard with his current form in T20 cricket. He has been largely (maybe completely) abysmal in ODI cricket. Lets not start this bandwagon.
 
He is 40 years old, I doubt he will be in this form in 2023. Hafeez is eventually going to decline. We need to be ready for that. He should play the World T20 this year and we should then move on from him. I get it he is in great form. But he has played for Pakistan long enough, a decline is coming so let’s hope he keeps up his form till the World T20. Because I have a feeling in the next year or so we will see a decline.
 
He did bugger all in the WC and thankfully has retired. At this rate Zaheer Abbas also has a chance. Sooner or later the batting will take shape for this decade. As long as Babar has some sort of form we will be competitive and as some of the younger players develop, we will find another 2 and start to challenge. HA has to get his chance and although won't uproot many trees because of his temperament, he will win some games. We are yet to see Saud and the Mubashir from Northerns, who looked to have more than enough ability. Don't look back, its the easy route and more importantly it doesn't work.
 
I'm pretty sure he is retired from ODIs. He may not have announced it formally but its obvious there is a tacit understanding that he is done from all formats besides T20Is.

If he wasn't he wouldn't have repeatedly and specifically said that he will retire from international cricket after the T20 World Cup.
 
TeymurBlake said:
Less not get overboard with his current form in T20 cricket. He has been largely (maybe completely) abysmal in ODI cricket. Lets not start this bandwagon.
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Agreed, Hafeez has found his level with T20, lets not repeat the same mistakes.
 
Not retired but should be dropped from ODIs for ever. He has already played way too many ODIs than he deserved .
 
I’m pretty sure he did ok in England last year. I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t retire but the simple question is..is there a better middle order spinning all rounder ?
Shadab no
Nawaz no
Zafar no
Iftakhar no.

So therefore it stands to reason that where there is room for rookies and hacks like asif Ali and danish we should let these guys get enough runs in first class or t20’s before letting them replace hafeez. Odi is not a place to keep throwing more than one youngster at a time. Haider Ali is ok to try..but when you look at how awful we are in the middle to lower order I would go for hafeez.

Now when there’s easier matches like in Zimbabwe or at home I absolutely agree that we can try more than one youngster but in matches like now against South Africa he only didn’t get in on some technicalit. Otherwise he walks into this team.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Exactly mate, he's not gonna make it for the next 50-over World Cup and management need to be realistic of that matter, add to boot he's not played a List-A/ODI since the World Cup and so the question is is he able to handle playing the longer version now?

This is the problem people reverting back as oppose to moving forward, need to groom future prospects now that will be part of the 50-over World Cup.
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Exactly i would rather back the domestic performers than back a player who isnt going to make it til the next world cup its obvious he doesnt want to play the 50 over format
 
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