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Should Shadab Khan be picked for the Pakistan Test squad?

Should Shadab Khan be picked for the Pakistan Test squad?

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He's made an amazing start to his international carrer in the shortest format and has also been picked in the Pakistan ODI squad against the West Indies, but do you feel he should also be picked for the Pakstan Test squad against West Indies?
 
Yes I do think he should be picked. I know it's early days but already he has shown potential in PSL first and now at international level starting his career. Yasir and Shadab could be a good combination in Tests.
 
100pct yes!!!

If he doesn't play he'll still be around the players and be working with the best coaches..

If he does play then don't see why he can't play alongside Yasir given that the wickets in the Windies are now more remenesent of Indian bunsin burners
 
Playing Yasir and Shadab will be a waste. The spin bowlers who have had success are right or left hand orthadox spinners. The wickets have low bounce and not much turn meaning LBW and bowled is the usual mode of dismissal. We need another spin option to wrist spin which ideally is not Babar.
 
I would pick him in 16 or 17 but I won't play him in any test match.Just for the exposure.

As much as it might sound a little eccentric but I would like him to be under the wing of Misbah and Younis.Just bowling against Younis can teach him a lot of things because him being a terrific player of spin bowling.
 
I really want him to play and I know for a fact that he would be an immediate success and this tour would give him a lot of confidence for the future BUT, there are two reasons he shouldn't be selected:

- He's only 18 and Test cricket is very demanding. He'll get injured.
-You don't want to over bowl, like most of us know, he's the best talent we've had in years. Yasir is good too but he's old and not one for the future.
 
Shadab Khan likely to be in the Test squad however Yasir too should play in the starting XI.
Not sure if two leg spinner work well together or not, but Yasir must be our main focus. Shadab- secondary.
 
Although he is good enough but I think PCB should take care and manage his work load. Playing too much cricket along with T20 Leagues (he is playing in CPL already) would not be good for him.
 
If you have an extraordinarily talented student, keep challenging him with more difficult task to improve his skill. There is no reason to doubt why Shadab would not excel in test, give him a debut in Jamaica .
 
SARJ_BD said:
Shadab Khan likely to be in the Test squad however Yasir too should play in the starting XI.
Not sure if two leg spinner work well together or not, but Yasir must be our main focus. Shadab- secondary.
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warnie and macgill played together

anyways yasir and shadab khan both are two different spinners. And west indians are not good against leg spin so i don't think it's a bad idea to give him a chance.

Further, playing too much t20 might spoil him.

Its just an opinion.
 
Shadab is likely to ge selected as a all-rounder, the management wanted an all-rounder badly, so they tried Nawaz, who failed, he isn't gonna be selected soon, so chances are bright for Shadab, he won't be a regular though, he'll get a game in the WI series, maybe another one in the Bangladesh or Sri Lanka series as well.After that the management will assess his progress and will make the right decision hopefully. There's no harm in playing Shadab with Yasir, if both are picking up wickets, both have different strengths. But Shadab will face competition from Asghar, who was selected as a back up by Inzi on the Aus tour.
 
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I wouldn't have said it for any other teenage spinner but this kid really likes to get the feel of the game. Pick him in tests, he will have his failures but the experience will only put him on an accelerated learning curve.
 
No doubt about it - if nothing else, will send a signal to Yasir Shah to fix his own bowling.
 
WI is the best team for a young leggi to debut, unless it's against Zimboks.

Problem for PAK is the combination, which Misbah would probably go with 4 bowlers - which serves 2 purpose; he'll get 2 spinners & he'll be able to lobby for MoHa as "all-rounder". Ideally the combination should be 4.5 bowlers with 2 genuine spinners. I would have definitely played Asghar as one spinner; while it's harsh on Yasir, if he is dropped.

In that regard, PAK might play 2 Leggis. I would have played both Shadab & Asghar, backed by Amir & Wahab - depending on the wicket, it's an option between Yasir, Fahim or even a new kid like Aga Salman Ali or Talat.
 
I would like him to debut but PCB will play hafeeZ as well.

If 2nd opener is shehzad then pakistan will have three leg spinners ( Azhar , shadab and yasir) and two quick bowlers which i dont think PCB will be willing to do. I am pretty sure hafeez will be picked in the test squad.
 
MMHS said:
WI is the best team for a young leggi to debut, unless it's against Zimboks.

Problem for PAK is the combination, which Misbah would probably go with 4 bowlers - which serves 2 purpose; he'll get 2 spinners & he'll be able to lobby for MoHa as "all-rounder". Ideally the combination should be 4.5 bowlers with 2 genuine spinners. I would have definitely played Asghar as one spinner; while it's harsh on Yasir, if he is dropped.

In that regard, PAK might play 2 Leggis. I would have played both Shadab & Asghar, backed by Amir & Wahab - depending on the wicket, it's an option between Yasir, Fahim or even a new kid like Aga Salman Ali or Talat.
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a bit odd to suggest agha salman who we have never seen bat or bowl..by statistics he is good but u never know he may be just rolling his arms like hafiz these days who sometimes throws it..
 
DRsohail said:
a bit odd to suggest agha salman who we have never seen bat or bowl..by statistics he is good but u never know he may be just rolling his arms like hafiz these days who sometimes throws it..
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Idea is to play an offie, because WI should play few lefti. I am not sure about any other off spinning all rounder apart from MoHa/Malik; while there is no specialist offie who can out bowl those leggi or left arm spinners I mentioned. If Babar is ready to bowl 20 overs/Test if required, he can serve the purpose. PAK's pace attack is dominated by left armers, which gives a fantastic opportunity to off spinners against lefti, bowling round the wicket.
 
Citizen4 said:
Shadab is likely to ge selected as a all-rounder, the management wanted an all-rounder badly, so they tried Nawaz, who failed, he isn't gonna be selected soon, so chances are bright for Shadab, he won't be a regular though, he'll get a game in the WI series, maybe another one in the Bangladesh or Sri Lanka series as well.After that the management will assess his progress and will make the right decision hopefully. There's no harm in playing Shadab with Yasir, if both are picking up wickets, both have different strengths. But Shadab will face competition from Asghar, who was selected as a back up by Inzi on the Aus tour.
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Problem is that they can select M Hafeez for the all rounder spot.
 
MMHS said:
Idea is to play an offie, because WI should play few lefti. I am not sure about any other off spinning all rounder apart from MoHa/Malik; while there is no specialist offie who can out bowl those leggi or left arm spinners I mentioned. If Babar is ready to bowl 20 overs/Test if required, he can serve the purpose. PAK's pace attack is dominated by left armers, which gives a fantastic opportunity to off spinners against lefti, bowling round the wicket.
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thats a good idea..as we all know how wi play spin....perfect oppurtunity for misbah to induct his buddy into the team if he scores a fifty in coming 5 matches....
 
WI cannot play spinners.

I say, just play 2 bowlers (Yasir and Shadab) and 9 batsmen.

WI will fold in under 20 overs. Then Pak can pile about 700 runs against the WI trundlers. Humiliation for the Caribbean Brothers.
 
I really hope Shadab gets Shafiq's spot in the test team soon, Shafiq is the master of ducks, I lost all faith in him when he bagged a pair against the WI in UAE test series, also a pair in England and in total 5 ducks, most by a Pakistani test batsman in a calender year. His 100 in Australia is the most overrated performance in Pak cricket since Wahab vs Watson show, he was glorified when he failed to finish the game when Pak got into a position where victory was possible, but he threw it away. The most inconsistent Pak test cricketer of the last few years.
Test team needs an all-rounder, Shadab can be the solution.
 
In last decade are so(kind of Misbah effect), Pakistan is too cautious in introducing young players, specially at test level. Which was hallmark of Pakistan in past, we had teenagers in pretty much every test team in 2/3 decades before that, the time when we were consistently top 4 team and many times top 2, at test level...

Pakistan don't have infrastructure to bake talent for 5 years in domestic and then bring them on test level, this has never worked and will not work in future (as long as domestic infrastructure is so poor). Plus there is always a need of startup mentality in high growth sector of any and every industry, you need agents who break the noms and shake up the system. You don't want to force talent to a process all the time, its going to kill him, taming the tigger is not wise, you want to keep the beast in wild not in Zoo, he is as good as dead in Zoo anyway, what's the point? This is not a wise strategy.

Shadab is good enough to play all three formats, Sharjeel was good enough to play test, we took three years to take that step... Babar and Harris were good enough to play test 2/3 years ago, all these are/were missed opportunities...If we had been aggressive in addressing short coming of our one dimensional batting lineup, we would not have lost 6 tests in a row last season...This one dimensional 80s style test team has really bad effect in development of Pakistan team(LOIs and domestic ) on modern platform...Pakistan team is never discussed as contender in any LOI tournament in Misbah's era, we are bottom of the pile...Back in 80s/90s we were always taken seriously, now we are pretty much minnows in LOIs, We cannot continue on those policies...Seniorism has failed, experience first has failed, we got to go back to energizing the youth and flair as core service engine!!
 
Not fussed either way.

Even if Shadab doesn't play the Test series, we're playing Bangladesh away in the summer and Sri Lanka in the UAE in the autumn so spin-friendly conditions again.

That gives Shadab time to establish himself in the LOI teams before making a Test debut.
 
Should play him in my view. gets more side-spin than yasir
 
Should stick to LOIs for now. Don't want Misbah to bowl him to the ground.
 
Ideally I would want all three, Yasir , Ashghar and Shadab to be in playing 11
But with Sami Aslam - Azhar Ali
Followed by Babar, Younis, Misbah and Shafiq, it is not going to happen unless Misbah drops himself or retires mid series
 
Yatoo said:
Ideally I would want all three, Yasir , Ashghar and Shadab to be in playing 11
But with Sami Aslam - Azhar Ali
Followed by Babar, Younis, Misbah and Shafiq, it is not going to happen unless Misbah drops himself or retires mid series
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Misbah is likely gonna retire after this series, and Younis maybe later thhis year. I don't like Shafiq at all due to inconsistency, but he's not going anywhere after his 100 in Australia.

Shadab, Asghar and Yasir can play together though in spin friendly conditions in a dead rubber match maybe because they're not proven spinners yet.
Shadab as an allrounder, Asghar and Yasir as 2 spinners, along with 2 fast bowlers. 5 batsmen and Sarfraz as wk.
 
No. I'm afraid he might get injured, remember he is just 18 years old and this is his first full tour. He never would have put so much strain on his body for such a sustained period of time before. Playing three tests will surely result in an injury and we may miss out on his services in the CT.


Better if we let Shah and Asghar be the two spinners for tests.
 
I want him selected in the WI Test squad for experience but I'd rather he not play a match just yet. We can't rush this. He's only played 4 First Class matches.
 
Absolutely not. Yes, he's looked good but lets not take him to the name just yet.. We have so many young spinners in the domestic set up that deserve to be called up so that they can showcase their talent. Shadab mustn't be overused. He's only 18, lets not overuse him and have him found out before he can even make a mark!
 
Definitely.

Great players get introduced in all formats at a young age. :sachin

WI Tests are the best chance for Shadab to prove himself at the highest level.
 
Asghar and Yasir should be the spinners. Shadab can debut maybe against Sri Lanka in UAE.
 
Nope, no way.

If Pak were struggling in the spin department, then there would be a case of picking him, but there are quality spinners in the bank and waiting to make their debuts.

Both Zafar and Asghar should be ahead of him and have proven their mettle in FC.
 
Rayyman said:
Has only played 4 1st-class matches.
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It depends.

If he continues to dominate in the T20s/ODIs, you are looking at a player who is acclimatized to WI conditions, in form and has a psychological advantage over the opposition.

This gives him a leg up on Asghar/Zafar even with four 1st-class matches under his belt.
 
PP is a very funny place sometimes. 3 T20i's and half the people here would throw him into a test match
 
Shadab is one of those with a great learning curve he is already much better then what he looked at u 19 world cup i believe he will. Continue to develop more he plays that includes tests.
 
Definitely not, perhaps after a couple of years till he gets the stock delivery in place, currently he relies on his googly a bit too much but, he is a very smart lad and won't be long before he adjusts to the demands of the game. Yasir Shah is still the world's best spinner for me and you would need some variety to ease the burden on him and a good off spinner is what Pakistan needs desperately.

As far as Shadab khan is concerned he is remarkable player and will get better with every outing. I am only worried that Pakistan sees in him a specialist bowler when in reality he can offer much more than a bowler.
 
I would not play him now. After Mushtaq Ahmed, Shadab is the first wrist spinner who seems to know how to bowl in LOIs. Before this we have tried Danish Kaneria and Yaser Shah who both have struggled in shorter formats. With Pakistan struggling in the fast bowling department a real potent spin threat is needed who can pick wickets in the middle and late overs which is where we have struggled. I feel Shadab should play only in LOIs for now to ensure he is not confused about things like length to bowl and flight which has very different requirements in test cricket. For now Yasir and another off-spinner are ideal. Let Shadab settle into limited overs cricket.
 
Rayyman said:
Funny thing is that Dean Jones, Ramiz Raja and Waqar Younis were saying the same thing. :facepalm:
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The negativity you are spreading about Shadab, spare a bit of it for the man in your avatar. The guy has been awfully horrible in PSL and the 3 T20s so far. He has taken 1 , 1 wicket for all the people in the world. While as Shadab has taken 8 wickets with better economy rate in this series.

Knowing 2 words of English and spitting them on every opposition players doesn't make you a better player.
 
Brilliance said:
The negativity you are spreading about Shadab, spare a bit of it for the man in your avatar. The guy has been awfully horrible in PSL and the 3 T20s so far. He has taken 1 , 1 wicket for all the people in the world. While as Shadab has taken 8 wickets with better economy rate in this series.

Knowing 2 words of English and spitting them on every opposition players doesn't make you a better player.
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To be fair Imad isn't a wicket taker. He doesn't try to turn the ball or deceive batsmen in flight. His job is to contain and he's done that extremely well for a guy who bowls most of his overs in the powerplay.
 
His leg breaks already look more threatening then Yasir i believe this lad will be a star in all formats
 
His best spell of the series imo getting the batsman in trouble with his leg breaks his googly will be even more effective once he improves his consistency with leg breaks
 
Today we saw him bowl those big spinning leg breaks consistently .

We are yet to see the best of him with the bat and his batting has just as much potential as his bowling .

Just hope he keeps on improving.
 
I say this with all due respect, but those saying he shouldn't be picked for the tests no nothing about Pakistani Cricket.
 
I would disagree not because of his ability but we will put unnecessary burden him with so much workload.
Also, he will be found out after test cricket.

He will be good for T20/50overs, we should keep it simple for him. In 4-5 overs years, he can play test cricket.
 
yasir said:
In last decade are so(kind of Misbah effect), Pakistan is too cautious in introducing young players, specially at test level. Which was hallmark of Pakistan in past, we had teenagers in pretty much every test team in 2/3 decades before that, the time when we were consistently top 4 team and many times top 2, at test level...

Pakistan don't have infrastructure to bake talent for 5 years in domestic and then bring them on test level, this has never worked and will not work in future (as long as domestic infrastructure is so poor). Plus there is always a need of startup mentality in high growth sector of any and every industry, you need agents who break the noms and shake up the system. You don't want to force talent to a process all the time, its going to kill him, taming the tigger is not wise, you want to keep the beast in wild not in Zoo, he is as good as dead in Zoo anyway, what's the point? This is not a wise strategy.

Shadab is good enough to play all three formats, Sharjeel was good enough to play test, we took three years to take that step... Babar and Harris were good enough to play test 2/3 years ago, all these are/were missed opportunities...If we had been aggressive in addressing short coming of our one dimensional batting lineup, we would not have lost 6 tests in a row last season...This one dimensional 80s style test team has really bad effect in development of Pakistan team(LOIs and domestic ) on modern platform...Pakistan team is never discussed as contender in any LOI tournament in Misbah's era, we are bottom of the pile...Back in 80s/90s we were always taken seriously, now we are pretty much minnows in LOIs, We cannot continue on those policies...Seniorism has failed, experience first has failed, we got to go back to energizing the youth and flair as core service engine!!
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Wow, post of the year, for me, you have explained and solved the problems, so well and concisely, brother.
 
Too early, let him play at least 15 FC games. I would rather have Nawaz bowling in tandem with Yasir. Nawaz is more experienced comparatively, would enjoy these pitches, and he can bat as well, which will be a bonus.
 
Ultimate said:
Too early, let him play at least 15 FC games. I would rather have Nawaz bowling in tandem with Yasir. Nawaz is more experienced comparatively, would enjoy these pitches, and he can bat as well, which will be a bonus.
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Bro Shadab is a good bat. He is a proper batsman aswell.
 
yasir said:
In last decade are so(kind of Misbah effect), Pakistan is too cautious in introducing young players, specially at test level. Which was hallmark of Pakistan in past, we had teenagers in pretty much every test team in 2/3 decades before that, the time when we were consistently top 4 team and many times top 2, at test level...

Pakistan don't have infrastructure to bake talent for 5 years in domestic and then bring them on test level, this has never worked and will not work in future (as long as domestic infrastructure is so poor). Plus there is always a need of startup mentality in high growth sector of any and every industry, you need agents who break the noms and shake up the system. You don't want to force talent to a process all the time, its going to kill him, taming the tigger is not wise, you want to keep the beast in wild not in Zoo, he is as good as dead in Zoo anyway, what's the point? This is not a wise strategy.

Shadab is good enough to play all three formats, Sharjeel was good enough to play test, we took three years to take that step... Babar and Harris were good enough to play test 2/3 years ago, all these are/were missed opportunities...If we had been aggressive in addressing short coming of our one dimensional batting lineup, we would not have lost 6 tests in a row last season...This one dimensional 80s style test team has really bad effect in development of Pakistan team(LOIs and domestic ) on modern platform...Pakistan team is never discussed as contender in any LOI tournament in Misbah's era, we are bottom of the pile...Back in 80s/90s we were always taken seriously, now we are pretty much minnows in LOIs, We cannot continue on those policies...Seniorism has failed, experience first has failed, we got to go back to energizing the youth and flair as core service engine!!
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Yeah no need to ruin him in domestic.
I would play him at no 6/7 as an all rounder.
 
Only 18 and has delivered in a couple of T20's against some hacks. Definitely should not be in the test team yet, see how he does in the ODI's and slowly get him into the squad.
 
He averages 26 with the ball in FC cricket, which is decent. Nawaz averages 24 with the ball, which is good. Nawaz and Shadab in tandem, on spinning tracks, wow, the opposition will find it tough to handle. These two can also bat. I will axe Yasir, as he may not recover from the beating he got in Australia. I am changing my opinion, so, yes, Shadab should be picked for the Test series against West Indies, in place of Yasir.
 
According to the commentators his name is Shahrukh Khan!

Absolutely shameful they can't even be bothered to work on their pronunciation.
 
more exposure to tests the opponent will study how to play his variations and he will not be the trump card anymore for pak in LOIs is what I feel... When it comes to spoiling talents pak and PCB are right up there in no.1 rank...
 
add 2 extra votes from Dean Jones and Sarfraz. I really hope he gets his debut in the last game when the series would already be won by Pak.
 
Citizen4 said:
add 2 extra votes from Dean Jones and Sarfraz. I really hope he gets his debut in the last game when the series would already be won by Pak.
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Well Sarfraz has no input. Just barely as vice captain. Neither does Jones. Mainly because it's in Misbah and Arthur's hands.
 
Shadab can do role of Ashwin/Jadeja in test team. A guy who is wicket taker and can bat at and avg of 35/40. That just changes the dimension of test team. You got extra batsman.

He is more versatile than Yasir, his leg spin actually spins and has very good(probably one of the best in the world) googlie. How people can find him out?? - He has master googlie very well, which is most difficult ball to bowl.

Did Ashwin become ineffective after playing test?? - Leggy always had more weapons than finger spinners,

WI is the easiest side to debut guy like him. What we have to loose, we play two spinners anyway for WI, who cannot play spin. Shadab is easily the best spinner after Yasir(he has edge because of control), we are adding extra batsman, I don't see the down side 😼😽😽
 
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Asad Shafiq
Younis Khan
Misbah Ul Haq
Sarfraz Ahmed
Shadab Khan
Mohammed Amir
Wahab Riaz
Yasir Shah
Hasan Ali/Junaid Khan
 
I doubt pakistan are going to play two leg spinners in a test match, yes W.I wickets might be a bit on the slow side these days but its very rare to see to leggies playing together in same test match.

If memories serves me right last time i remember two leggies playing in a test in the W.i was back in 98/99 when the Aussies played both Macgill and warne in same game.

I doubt misbah will Pick Yasir and shadab in a final X1.
 
Ultimate said:
He averages 26 with the ball in FC cricket, which is decent. Nawaz averages 24 with the ball, which is good. Nawaz and Shadab in tandem, on spinning tracks, wow, the opposition will find it tough to handle. These two can also bat. I will axe Yasir, as he may not recover from the beating he got in Australia. I am changing my opinion, so, yes, Shadab should be picked for the Test series against West Indies, in place of Yasir.
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You're entitled to your opinion but fans like you are the reason we cry when Ashwin succeeds. A bowler has one OK (not even that bad) series and you guys lose it. Relax. He is the best spinner in the world by a margin, if not the best bowler. He'll bounce back stronger. You'll see.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Asad Shafiq
Younis Khan
Misbah Ul Haq
Sarfraz Ahmed
Shadab Khan
Mohammed Amir
Wahab Riaz
Yasir Shah
Hasan Ali/Junaid Khan
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why u drop sami aslam (actually pak doesnt deserve a test batsman like him as they are happy with bilal asif stuffs who can hit a 6 and get out)...asad shafiq cant score against WI bowling attack in UAE at no.3.. MISBAH is finished just playing to retire on a high note...
 
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