Should the BCCI allow Indian cricketers to play in foreign T20 leagues?

[MenInG]

This is Sunil Gavaskar's view

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Franchise T20 leagues are an ever-growing phenomenon in world cricket currently. After the concept became a hit in countries like India, Australia and England, even South Africa and UAE have gone ahead with new franchise T20 leagues of their own. IPL franchise owners control majority of the teams in the two leagues. The abundance of franchise cricket has meant that players from around the world are getting a chance to play in multiple lucrative T20 leagues. However, active Indian players have so far not been allowed to play in any of the foreign leagues.

Former Indian cricket team captain Sunil Gavaskar, in his column for Sportstar, touched upon the issue of the unavailability of Indian players in foreign leagues.

"Some overseas former players have said that the Indian players should be allowed to play the Big Bash or the Hundred. Basically, they want their leagues to have more sponsorship etc. They are concerned about their cricket, which is totally understandable," Gavaskar wrote.

"But when Indian cricket looks to protect its cricket by ensuring that their players stay fresh for their matches and thus restricting them from playing overseas, that is not acceptable to the guys from the 'old powers'. They are talking only about the Indian players being made available for their country's leagues but not the support staff or others who also can do a wonderful job as the cricketing world has found out over the last half dozen years or so."

He added that Indian players might be allowed to play in foreign leagues, especially in the UAE and SA T20 leagues, because majority of the teams there are owned by Indian enterprises

"The limit on what the players can earn and the small change as prize money makes the bigger fees and big prize money at the UAE and South African leagues a more attractive proposition," he wrote.

"The composition of the teams in these two new leagues is mainly the franchises that have teams in the IPL and hence the media in the 'old powers' has started blaming the IPL. The Board of Control for Cricket in India has nothing to do with these leagues but in all probability may allow some Indian players to play there. Of course, India will be playing international matches during this time and the cream of talent in Indian cricket will be playing for India and not in these leagues. Their franchises, though, may want them to play the odd game if there is a gap between the international matches."

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[MenInG]

So from what Sunny is saying that its not their skills but what they are worth to the advertisers that matters?

 

[introvert]

It should be allowed and if bcci somehow tries to block the move then player association should stand up and fight it out for it.

Few notable Indian players are currently playing in Royal London one day cup in england which is strange imo considering it's a whiteball tournament. If that's allowed then other t20 league participation should also be allowed.

Non contracted Indian players should be allowed to explore their options. Players who are out of Central contracts or far from team India selections should be allowed to play in league of their choice.

 

[MenInG]

Well upto BCCI to use these players as commodities but it does seems strange.

 

[Rajdeep]

It should not be allowed as that would dilute the IPL. On the contrary, I think players from every country should be made exclusive. It would give these leagues more meaning. Currently only Indian players are exclusive to 1 league/1 club.

I have said this many times before - make players exclusive and start Champions league. It will be a blockbuster tournament.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It should be allowed and if bcci somehow tries to block the move then player association should stand up and fight it out for it.

Few notable Indian players are currently playing in Royal London one day cup in england which is strange imo considering it's a whiteball tournament. If that's allowed then other t20 league participation should also be allowed.

Non contracted Indian players should be allowed to explore their options. Players who are out of Central contracts or far from team India selections should be allowed to play in league of their choice.

It is not allowed and should not be allowed. Unless the player is not playing for the central or state teams.

Indian players are not allowed to play T20 leagues or hundred or such leagues.

They can play other formats

 

[Saj]

They don't need to as they are well looked after financially.

Also some Indian players have been allowed to play County cricket recently with the main reason being to improve the player and get that player some experience rather than just making some money.

 

[introvert]

They don't need to as they are well looked after financially.

Also some Indian players have been allowed to play County cricket recently with the main reason being to improve the player and get that player some experience rather than just making some money.

Not everyone gets million dollar contract in IPL and Playing in overseas t20 league can aslo improve a white ball player and give him different conditions experience as well.

Imo a Player should be allowed to feature in any league that's not affecting his IPL participation.

 

[introvert]

It is not allowed and should not be allowed. Unless the player is not playing for the central or state teams.

Indian players are not allowed to play T20 leagues or hundred or such leagues.

They can play other formats

For central contracted player it's obvious but for state it doesn't make sense.

Imo a whiteball specialist who is not close to India selection is better off playing in overseas t20 leagues and improving his skills there than wasting his time in playing lowkey domestic t20 tournament in India.

What about those who are not yet picked or
Are dropped by IPL or players on brink of retirement. Shouldn't they have right to play in overseas t20 league and get quality game time as well as desired money when opportunity comes.

 

[Mp812]

The IPL is, after the NFL in the United States, the second-richest sports tournament in the world on a per-game valuation; its players are among the beneficiaries. The IPL franchises are spreading their wings into other markets and their marquee players are going with them. There has been talk of more than US$3 million a year for the best to attach themselves to a single franchise and globetrot with abandon.

Why would then players themselves want to play in other leagues?

 

[Saj]

Not everyone gets million dollar contract in IPL and Playing in overseas t20 league can aslo improve a white ball player and give him different conditions experience as well.

Imo a Player should be allowed to feature in any league that's not affecting his IPL participation.

But it's at the discretion of BCCI.

They are not desperate like some Boards for their players to play in other leagues.

I can understand why BCCI won't allow it.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

I think BCCI has been mulling allowing certain players. There were reports that they may allow non-contracted players (at state level) and international players who haven't played for the country in last 'x' no. of years.

Which I think was main point of contention for ex-Indian players like Irfan Pathan, Yuvraj and Raina.

However, you're never going to see BCCI budge on current players even if they are just domestic contracted player. It will simply hurt the brand IPL and even the franchise wouldn't want that.

 

[rvd]

Of course they should allow players to play in overseas T20 leagues.

Many players are from disadvantaged backgrounds and have a very short period to make money to support themselves and often their families. The BCCI should allow them to play.

 

[sweep_shot]

Absolutely.

How is it fair if Indian players don't play in other leagues but other players play in Indian league? That's unethical and unfair.

 

[jnaveen1980]

They should. But they won't. Atleast some fringe players if not contracted players.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They should. But they won't. Atleast some fringe players if not contracted players.

Dhoni Raina kinda of players may play a role.

 

[IMMY69]

But it's at the discretion of BCCI.

They are not desperate like some Boards for their players to play in other leagues.

I can understand why BCCI won't allow it.

On the contrary, I see all this as desperation.
Give it time, things have a habit of coming back to kick you in the proverbial.
In this instance it's got nothing do with cricket but everything to do with greed.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Should Indian players be allowed in other leagues… Absolutely Not!!
They are paid well enough in the country.
May be closer to retirement ex Ranji players can be allowed to increase their income.

 

[Hitman]

Absolutely.

How is it fair if Indian players don't play in other leagues but other players play in Indian league? That's unethical and unfair.

Players from other countries are not forced to play in the IPL.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

For the good of international cricket, BCCI should not allow them. Only T20 leagues of Pakistan, Australia and England can survive without Indian viewership. The best hope for the CSA and the UAE leagues to fail is if no Indian cricketers play in them.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Absolutely.

How is it fair if Indian players don't play in other leagues but other players play in Indian league? That's unethical and unfair.

BCCI pays other boards 100s of 1000s of dollars some times million plus to give NOC to the players.

 

[cricketjoshila]

For the good of international cricket, BCCI should not allow them. Only T20 leagues of Pakistan, Australia and England can survive without Indian viewership. The best hope for the CSA and the UAE leagues to fail is if no Indian cricketers play in them.

Naah. Already MI has done its brand extension.

The cape town team is called MI Capetown, pronounced as My Cape Town team.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Naah. Already MI has done its brand extension.

The cape town team is called MI Capetown, pronounced as My Cape Town team.

Brand extension won't get eyeballs from Indian viewers. From my understanding, they need to have Indian players playing in the league to penetrate the Indian market.

Part of me really wants these ventures to fail because I want to see enough time for quality international cricket.

 

[introvert]

BCCI pays other boards 100s of 1000s of dollars some times million plus to give NOC to the players.

I don't know how much they pay or A respective board get from thier player's IPL earnings.
Even if they pay, They pay that money to get foreign players participate in IPL.

What bcci is doing by not allowing Indian players outside IPL is wrong, acknowledge that. Let players choose wherever they want to play. They can't dictate players who are not centrally contracted.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't know how much they pay or A respective board get from thier player's IPL earnings.
Even if they pay, They pay that money to get foreign players participate in IPL.

What bcci is doing by not allowing Indian players outside IPL is wrong, acknowledge that. Let players choose wherever they want to play. They can't dictate players who are not centrally contracted.

The BCCI pays an amount equivalent to 20 per cent of the players salary to the board

If 10 Aussies go for a total bid of 5million, CA gets 1 million as fees from Bcci.

Why do you mean they cant dictate? ICC rules says that noc is needed for 5 years from the date of the players retirement.

 

[introvert]

The BCCI pays an amount equivalent to 20 per cent of the players salary to the board

If 10 Aussies go for a total bid of 5million, CA gets 1 million as fees from Bcci.

Why do you mean they cant dictate? ICC rules says that noc is needed for 5 years from the date of the players retirement.

If i am not wrong that money whatever percent it is is directly cut from player's salary. They are not giving any extra payment for NOC but just making simple process for their and player's benefit by dealing directly with respective cricket boards.


By "dictate" I meant although bcci has full authority but they should allow players who are not centrally contracted to participate in t20 league of their choice without any ipl sanctions.

 

[sweep_shot]

BCCI pays other boards 100s of 1000s of dollars some times million plus to give NOC to the players.

They pay. I agree.

But, it gives India an unfair advantage. Boards are too spineless/shortsighted to correct this.

 

[introvert]

I just found that pravin tambe played in cpl last year.

Here is an interesting excerpt from the article by Cricinfo
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/cpl-2020-pravin-tambe-becomes-first-indian-to-play-cpl-1230549

"Tambe was one of two Indian players - Asad Khan being the other - who had entered the CPL draft earlier this year. Indian players are currently not allowed play in overseas leagues unless they have retired from domestic cricket, which Tambe did in 2018 in order to take part in the unsanctioned T10 League.

He was disqualified from playing in the IPL as a result, but curiously, Tambe was still allowed to register himself in the 2020 IPL auction, where he was picked up by TKR's parent company for the Kolkata Knight Riders. That is understood to have happened because of an administrative error from the IPL governing council, who then withdrew his selection."

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/ipl/pravin-tambe-ipl-suspension-kkr-6288217/

When IPL chairman was asked about it He said

"He (Tambe) wont be allowed to play IPL,” Patel told The Indian Express. “He (Tambe) won’t be allowed other wise we have to allow everyone.”

Patel explained the rationale.

“The board only allow players to play in one day, three day, four day and county cricket and each player has to seek BCCI and respective state association’s no-objection certificate.”

So you have to retire from domestic cricket to play in overseas leagues. And if you choose to play overseas league you are disqualified from IPL. Not sure whether that disqualification is for permanently or for that specific year only.

Such a sad state of affairs. I think it's time for indian player association to step up brake shackles. If other country players can play any league of their choice without any sanctions then why can't Indian domestic players do same as well?

 

[cricketjoshila]

If i am not wrong that money whatever percent it is is directly cut from player's salary. They are not giving any extra payment for NOC but just making simple process for their and player's benefit by dealing directly with respective cricket boards.


By "dictate" I meant although bcci has full authority but they should allow players who are not centrally contracted to participate in t20 league of their choice without any ipl sanctions.

No. Its not deducted from the players'salary. Its paid by BCCI.

They are giving the board money for letting the player play the IPL.

BCCI is unlikely to dilute the IPL. A non contracted player today may be a contracted one tommorow and vice versa.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I just found that pravin tambe played in cpl last year.

Here is an interesting excerpt from the article by Cricinfo
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/cpl-2020-pravin-tambe-becomes-first-indian-to-play-cpl-1230549

"Tambe was one of two Indian players - Asad Khan being the other - who had entered the CPL draft earlier this year. Indian players are currently not allowed play in overseas leagues unless they have retired from domestic cricket, which Tambe did in 2018 in order to take part in the unsanctioned T10 League.

He was disqualified from playing in the IPL as a result, but curiously, Tambe was still allowed to register himself in the 2020 IPL auction, where he was picked up by TKR's parent company for the Kolkata Knight Riders. That is understood to have happened because of an administrative error from the IPL governing council, who then withdrew his selection."

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/ipl/pravin-tambe-ipl-suspension-kkr-6288217/

When IPL chairman was asked about it He said

"He (Tambe) wont be allowed to play IPL,” Patel told The Indian Express. “He (Tambe) won’t be allowed other wise we have to allow everyone.”

Patel explained the rationale.

“The board only allow players to play in one day, three day, four day and county cricket and each player has to seek BCCI and respective state association’s no-objection certificate.”

So you have to retire from domestic cricket to play in overseas leagues. And if you choose to play overseas league you are disqualified from IPL. Not sure whether that disqualification is for permanently or for that specific year only.

Such a sad state of affairs. I think it's time for indian player association to step up brake shackles. If other country players can play any league of their choice without any sanctions then why can't Indian domestic players do same as well?

BCCI pays the players well and takes life long care with pensions and medical costs. Why will they leave all this just for a few bucks in another league.

 

[introvert]

BCCI pays the players well and takes life long care with pensions and medical costs. Why will they leave all this just for a few bucks in another league.

Pension scheme is designed for players who retired or played majority of their career matches before 2003-04 for first class cricketers & before 1994 for Test Cricketers. Old crickers who didn't earn much back then because bcci was poor.

Pension scheme already have match number criterias where a player has to play x number of first class matches to be eligible for y amount of pension etc.

Those who have served Indian cricket in first class/test cricket more will get more pension and vice versa less pension if served less. So it's not really giving freebie money but it's good gratitude payback gesture by bcci to it's old players.

It can't be the reason for blocking current players from playing in other leagues. Players should be allowed to explore their options. Get taste of other leagues and conditions if they wish.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pension scheme is designed for players who retired or played majority of their career matches before 2003-04 for first class cricketers & before 1994 for Test Cricketers. Old crickers who didn't earn much back then because bcci was poor.

Pension scheme already have match number criterias where a player has to play x number of first class matches to be eligible for y amount of pension etc.

Those who have served Indian cricket in first class/test cricket more will get more pension and vice versa less pension if served less. So it's not really giving freebie money but it's good gratitude payback gesture by bcci to it's old players.

It can't be the reason for blocking current players from playing in other leagues. Players should be allowed to explore their options. Get taste of other leagues and conditions if they wish.

Is there a bcci policy that says players post 2003-04 wont receive pensio?

Can you name a few other boards who pay life long pension and medical costs of it playerrs?

 

[Savak]

BCCI have refused to give permission to Dhoni to be a mentor in the UAE T20 league and CSA league saying if he wishes to do so, he will have to completely retire from all sorts of Cricket and quit the IPL and have also further clarified that this policy applies to all Indian players in the Indian Cricket System (Contracted or Non Contracted).

No way will any indian player will dare go against the BCCI.

Also BCCI if reports are to believed is not happy with the IPL franchises buying teams in other leagues and have told them in private that being business owners, they have the right to do what they want but they better keep their affairs in the other leagues seperate from the IPL and not use their activities in the other leagues against the IPL.

 

[Savak]

IPL Owners in Foreign Leagues: The world’s richest cricket board BCCI is getting concerned about the growing interest of IPL team owners in the foreign leagues. Be it the Mumbai Indians, Rajasthan Royals, Kolkata Knight Riders, Chennai Super Kings, Lucknow Super Giants or others – all are on buying spree in the foreign leagues.

One of the BCCI top official reluctantly admitted to InsideSport that they are ‘very concerned‘ on the recent development.

In order to protect their interest, BCCI is unlikely to change the status of ban on Indian players playing in these foreign leagues.

“BCCI has created a brand IPL and the entire sporting world is in awe of it. We have to protect our brand. We are very concerned when the name of IPL owners is being associated with every foreign league.

“They are free to invest wherever they want but we will not allow any kind brand leveraging on account of IPL. No Indian player past or present would be allowed to join these leagues.”, said upset BCCI official.

IPL 2023: BCCI getting ‘very concerned’ about IPL team owners buying franchises in foreign leagues. ‘permission to players unlikely’: CHECK OUT

IPL Owners in Foreign Leagues – Why is BCCI Concerned? Be it the UAE’s ILT20, Cricket South Africa’s T20 league or Caribbean Premier League, IPL Owners are prominent buyers of teams in these leagues.

Caribbean Premier League: 3 Out of 5 owners are IPL Team owners i.e Rajasthan ROYALS, Punjab Kings and Kolkata Knight Riders

ILT20 League: KKR, MI, Delhi Capitals owners have taken teams in league promoted by the Emirates Cricket Board

CSA T20 League: All 6 teams in the league are owned by IPL Team owners.
BCCI is flooded with requests from various boards and players to allow non-contracted Indian players to play in these leagues. But the Indian board is unlikely to relent.

The BCCI has so far restricted their players’ participation in other leagues and the status quo on the subject is set to continue.

 

[introvert]

True dictatorship by BCCI.

If old players have spine they should stand up and create player association to fight such draconian rules which literally tells. Them that to play in BBL/uae league/csa league/hundred/blast etc. tournaments they have to first retire from domestic cricket and give up their current IPL contract.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Ravi Shastri, Zaheer Khan Takes On The IPL Controversy Ahead Of India's 1st T20I vs New Zealand

Wellington: Former India head coach Ravi Shastri believes that Indian cricketers are ‘absolutely fine’ playing IPL and domestic cricket in the country while adding that there’s already ‘enough opportunity’ in the existing system for the players to shine. In the aftermath of India’s ten-wicket thrashing at the hands of England in the semifinals of the T20 World Cup in Adelaide Oval, the BCCI’s decision to bar active cricketers from participating in overseas leagues has been a topic of discussion.

Though England have never played a match at the venue in the course of the tournament, four of their squad members — leg-spinner Adil Rashid, opener Alex Hales, fast-bowling all-rounder Chris Jordan and batter Phil Salt — had the experience of playing a large number of matches at Adelaide Oval, thanks to their stints with Adelaide Strikers in the Big Bash League (BBL).

Hales, a regular in playing the BBL, went to bag the Player of the Match award in the semifinal win over India with an unbeaten 86 and was well-supported by captain Jos Buttler, who was 80 not out and had two previous stints of playing in the BBL.

“There’s enough domestic cricket for all these players to get absorbed in the system and get an opportunity. Plus you get these India A tours, you get a lot of these other tours where at one given time you might have two Indian teams playing in the future.”

“Where the opportunity will come for the other lot to go somewhere else whilst India is in another country to go play and see what they can do. So I think there’s no need. They’re absolutely fine playing IPL cricket and focusing on domestic cricket. We need them to play domestic cricket in India as well,” said Shastri in a virtual press conference organised by Prime Video ahead of the first T20I between India and New Zealand at Wellington.

Former India left-arm pacer Zaheer Khan concurred with Shastri’s thoughts and felt that he doesn’t see any reason for the current cricketers to play in a particular T20 league.

“Well I feel there are a lot of processes in place. It’s not about playing only franchise cricket, it’s about going to different countries to learn things. I think that is something which is important and you’ve seen with the BCCI with their shadow tours.”

“I think that process is well in place. I don’t see any other reason right now for players to go and play in a particular tournament. I think what you have domestically right now is also a robust structure. So why depend on others?”

Zaheer, currently serving as the global head of cricket development for the three franchises under the Mumbai Indians umbrella, signed off by saying that people in India need to focus on cricket in the country rather than seeing outside.

“I think we have more than enough means for producing good players and you look at our band strength as well. I think that’s a classic example of seeing things. You can virtually play three line-ups and they will be able to compete at any level. So I think we should focus on that, focus on our country rather than looking outside.”

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...ead-of-indias-1st-t20i-vs-new-zealand-1053131

 

[ftbno1]

The reason behind Indians not playing in other leagues.

The real reason behind BCCI not allowing Indians to play in foreign league is simply financial.
If you are a Pakistani fan you will be more interested in BBL instead of IPL as it features Pakistani cricketers.
Similarly if BCCI allows Indian cricketers in other leagues their eyeballs in India will increase drastically and these league will complete for ad revenue which is generated through Indian audience.
This is sad truth thus I find it hard to see any cricketer playing on BBL or SAT20 in future. Infact they may prohibit women cricketers also.

 

[boomboomcheema]

True and it's very obvious they want to keep Indians, huge Indian audience interested in one league only , that is IPL

Imagine if Rohit Sharma or Kohli set to turn up for a BBL or SA T20 league, huge number of Indians would catch the action to watch their stars perform, thus giving a big boost to the viewership numbers of a foreign league.

 

[ftbno1]

I am not sure but is it legal or it can be interpreted as restricted trade practices. It

 

[Sir Alex]

I am not sure but is it legal or it can be interpreted as restricted trade practices. It

I think it can be challenged that BCCI is depriving non-contracted players of an opportunity to earn a living elsewhere. Contracted players are technically employees so they can be restrained using non compete clause.

But BCCi is a behemoth. Who will want to challenge it in India and put sand in their own food?

 

[cricketjoshila]

BBL SAT20 ILT20 are all played during the Indian season. So players are not going to play there.

Players are either under contract of the BCCI or its affiliated state boards. Outside of that anyone can go and play any league.

Robin Uthappa is an example.

 

[JattMaula]

I think it can be challenged that BCCI is depriving non-contracted players of an opportunity to earn a living elsewhere. Contracted players are technically employees so they can be restrained using non compete clause.

But BCCi is a behemoth. Who will want to challenge it in India and put sand in their own food?

It can definitely be challenged in court. Indian "restriction of trade" law is a British legacy law still almost intact. BCCI will almost definitely lose the case but it may actually harm majority of domestic (non-elite) cricketers long term.

IPL has quota for Indian players due to BCCI. It can cancel that. Domestic cricketer will be forced to compete with international players evenly for spots.

And overseas leagues will only employ the best of Indians, mediocre domestic talent will be left out of everything.

For example take Unadkat. No overseas franchise will employ him for much if at all. And no ipl team will find him useful if they are free to hire a real T20 Bowler from outside India.

Bumrah, Rohit, Sky etc will play ipl and they will also play other leagues. Rich will be richer and poor(mediocre) will earn nothing.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It can definitely be challenged in court. Indian "restriction of trade" law is a British legacy law still almost intact. BCCI will almost definitely lose the case but it may actually harm majority of domestic (non-elite) cricketers long term.

IPL has quota for Indian players due to BCCI. It can cancel that. Domestic cricketer will be forced to compete with international players evenly for spots.

And overseas leagues will only employ the best of Indians, mediocre domestic talent will be left out of everything.

For example take Unadkat. No overseas franchise will employ him for much if at all. And no ipl team will find him useful if they are free to hire a real T20 Bowler from outside India.

Bumrah, Rohit, Sky etc will play ipl and they will also play other leagues. Rich will be richer and poor(mediocre) will earn nothing.

All domestic players who play any of the domestic tournaments are contracted to the state association and the state association is affiliated to BCCI. So they can restrict the participation of the players.

 

[JattMaula]

All domestic players who play any of the domestic tournaments are contracted to the state association and the state association is affiliated to BCCI. So they can restrict the participation of the players.

Unfair contracts from monopoly can be fought in court too.

 

[JattMaula]

Indian players chafing from bcci control can go Unmukt Chand route too.

Go to a foreign cricket board and try playing ipl as a overseas player. You will find your fair market value pretty soon.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unfair contracts from monopoly can be fought in court too.

What monopoly? BCCI or state boards pay the players for these contracts. Players are free to leave and not sign any bcci contract. Uthappa plays ILT20.

 

[JattMaula]

What monopoly? BCCI or state boards pay the players for these contracts. Players are free to leave and not sign any bcci contract. Uthappa plays ILT20.

BCCI does have monopoly on cricket in India.

 

[WengerOut]

BCCI does have monopoly on cricket in India.

Someone else can form a board and can attract cricketers right? Ofcourse for national duties they should be okayed by the ICC.

 

[Rana]

India is already struggling to field their best XI because of injuries incurred during IPL or players recovering for IPL.

There is no way they will want to risk their players getting injured in other leagues

 

[JattMaula]

Someone else can form a board and can attract cricketers right? Ofcourse for national duties they should be okayed by the ICC.

You can try. It's a gray area.

BCCI has too much political backing to be challenged conventionally.

We had two hockey bodies some years ago iirc. It was a disaster.

 

[WengerOut]

You can try. It's a gray area.

BCCI has too much political backing to be challenged conventionally.

We had two hockey bodies some years ago iirc. It was a disaster.

What i meant was there is legally no issue for BCCI

 

[JattMaula]

What i meant was there is legally no issue for BCCI

It's a gray area legally. BCCI has gov mandate but it's not a gov institution. It has historical claim to legitimacy which has not been challenged properly yet.

 

[MenInG]

South Africa great AB de Villiers feels it is becoming increasingly difficult to keep players “inspired” for all three formats amid the tight schedule. It is thus a pressing need for boards and cricketers to have honest communication over the latter’s preferred choice of formats.

The 38-year-old, who shocked the cricketing world with his international retirement in 2018, said his playing career too could have been managed better. Three years later, he retired from all forms of cricket.

He left the game to spend more time with family, something which has become a luxury for an all-format modern cricketer. Considering the ever-crowded international calendar and mushrooming of T20 leagues around the world, playing all three formats has become impossible without taking frequent breaks in between.

England Test captain Ben Stokes was forced to retire from ODIs last year as he could not go on giving his best across formats. “That’s a tough question,” De Villiers told PTI when asked about the need for picking formats amid the relentless scheduling.

“Because I don’t want to be the guy to just say give up a format or two. And once again, it’s a global cricketing issue at the moment to keep the players inspired to play all formats of the game for their countries.”

De Villiers believes the players’ careers could be extended if they were clear about their ambitions across formats. He also expects the cricketing boards to clearly communicate to the players where they stand in the scheme of things.

“But I do think there’s room with the various boards around the world to pinpoint players, to have community discussions and communication early on in players’ careers, to understand what they want to achieve, first of all, and secondly, where they fit in with regards to the cricket in their own country and to represent the country internationally.

“... But also to be happy to play leagues around the world and gain experience. It’s invaluable. We spoke about it earlier, players like SKY (Suryakumar), Dewald Brevis, and myself, the way we took our games to the next level, largely because of these leagues.

“So ultimately, that is what we want to achieve. If it’s not achievable. And if there’s a clear sign that a player is maybe a bit weak in one format, or is maybe not as inspired to achieve milestones to go a long way in one or two formats, then yes, but that communication needs to happen.

“And I think during my career, communication could have been better from my side, but also from the Cricket South Africa side to have made sure that we planned accordingly. So it comes down to communication,” said ‘Mr. 360’.

De Villiers is also part of the SA20 commentary panel. The inaugural competition has taken an eight-day break to accommodate the ODI series between host South Africa and England.

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“I don’t think it is (break) ideal to be honest. So difficult to get the scheduling right and keep everyone happy. We want to see countries take each other on. It is the ultimate form of viewership but with all these leagues the excitement is there and it is financially healthy.

“It is very difficult for the ICC and everyone to make sure that the scheduling benefits everyone. I honestly don’t know what the answer is,” said de Villiers.

‘Doubt if we will ever see Indian players in overseas leagues’

The BCCI doesn’t allow Indian players to feature in overseas T20 leagues and it is not going to change in the foreseeable future. De Villiers sees a lot of merit in BCCI’s stance.

“I would love to see it happening very soon but you don’t see Indian players being released for leagues around the world. So I don’t know if that will ever change. And rightfully so. I mean, the BCCI has a very clear plan with the players, they want to win World Cups.

“They want to make sure the players have the exposure they need and obviously there’s no league better than than the IPL. Once some of the leagues maybe knock on their door, you never know,” he added.

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[cricketjoshila]

BCCI does have monopoly on cricket in India.

Hockey India has monopoly on Hockey.

Wrestling Federation of India on Wrestling

AIFF on Football.

Your point?

 

[cricketjoshila]

It's a gray area legally. BCCI has gov mandate but it's not a gov institution. It has historical claim to legitimacy which has not been challenged properly yet.

None of the sporting federations are govt institution.

 

[giri26]

Not needed. Already with just IPL we have most of our first choice players unavailable for international commitments. The last thing we want is players in various leagues. Only players who have retired from international cricket should be allow. Active players should just stick to IPL.

 

[SamNJ]

There should be sort of a setup where a 29-30 year old commits himself to T20s only. He should be allowed to play leagues and IPL. It will help exposure to various conditions.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

After India's ignominous 10-wickets defeat against England in the Semi-Final of T20 WC 2022, Rahul Dravid made a suggestion to allow Indian cricketers to be a part of the overseas league so they could learn more about different conditions around the world and be more adaptable and savvy in the ICC tournaments ahead. But almost 1 and a half year ahead, no such change in policy has been introduced by the BCCI and no surprise India is still suffering from this policy and just extending its long standing trophy drought.

So the question is should BCCI allow active Indian cricketers to venture their luck in overseas leagues?

 

[FearlessRoar]

I think that's the right decision,just look at the Indian test team, the heights they have reached, beating Australia in Australia and defeating England at home

 

[Cover Drive Six]

I think that's the right decision,just look at the Indian test team, the heights they have reached, beating Australia in Australia and defeating England at home

What heights are you talking about? You are comparing the wrong format.
Australia is consistently beating us in every LOI tournament. We are yet to win a T20 World Cup after the inauguration of the IPL. We are not performing well in the T20 format, with many IPL bullies failing to deliver in T20 tournaments.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It's a great idea.

Fans only get to see the players play for India or an IPL franchise. It's a great way to build team identity.

 

[Ahmed216]

Indian players playing in overseas leagues will increase their viewership which the Indian board does not want.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Rahul also talked about the above idea in following video from 4:40 onwards.

 

[JaDed]

Allow them but no central contract. Likes of Pandya and Kishan to just play IPL and stay out of Indian team FGS

 

[Statpadder Inc]

Nope, only if they retire. No need to dilute the ipls brand. And other leagues won't pay as much and our players would get injured

 

[Mockingbird]

As it is we play too much cricket, so a big no!

 

[Cricket Warrior]

I don't understand why Indian players arent allowed to play in foreign leagues. Whats the reason behind this restriction?

 

[sweep_shot]

BCCI doesn't allow their players to play in various foreign leagues but expect foreign cricketers to play in their leagues.

How is this fair for other boards?

This is how BCCI got rich with IPL. If other leagues were getting to sign Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah etc., they could've prospered more.

I think boards should do a deal with BCCI that BCCI MUST allow Indian players to participate in other leagues.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Before asking the BCCI, tell me why should they?
What is the point of playing in poor leagues like BGL (Bangla Garbage League)?

 

[big_gamer007]

Before asking the BCCI, tell me why should they?
What is the point of playing in poor leagues like BGL (Bangla Garbage League)?

It’s fine to not allow established players or players who have a future with Indian team.

But rubbish C grade players who don’t have any future should be allowed to play in other leagues to get money, mind you a D tier Indian domestic player will be much better than international Bangladeshi players not named Sakib.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

They were very smart.

Indian market is the biggest. They don't want to dilute it by letting players play abroad.

They can also pay their players so much money that nobody will want to play abroad. They can take those months off.

You gotta respect the BCCI's moves when it comes to franchise cricket.

However, I think they will be some players allowed to play soon under pressure from franchises who have overseas entitities. These franchises paid big money but my humble opinion is that there is no big market for these leagues to justify the money being spent. After a while the franchises will realise that the only way to make big money in SA or UAE or 100 is to appeal more to Indian market, so perhaps we will see some players being allowed to play in IPL teams in different countries.

 

[sweep_shot]

They were very smart.

Indian market is the biggest. They don't want to dilute it by letting players play abroad.

They can also pay their players so much money that nobody will want to play abroad. They can take those months off.

You gotta respect the BCCI's moves when it comes to franchise cricket.

However, I think they will be some players allowed to play soon under pressure from franchises who have overseas entitities. These franchises paid big money but my humble opinion is that there is no big market for these leagues to justify the money being spent. After a while the franchises will realise that the only way to make big money in SA or UAE or 100 is to appeal more to Indian market, so perhaps we will see some players being allowed to play in IPL teams in different countries.

This is unethical. I cannot respect such action.

I am also surprised other boards are okay with this.

The reason why India have the audacity to do this now is because other boards didn't object when IPL was at its infancy.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

It’s fine to not allow established players or players who have a future with Indian team.

But rubbish C grade players who don’t have any future should be allowed to play in other leagues to get money, mind you a D tier Indian domestic player will be much better than international Bangladeshi players not named Sakib.

Ranji players and Women IPL players are earning more money than those in some other leagues. Youngsters are getting good money in domestic cricket, so they don’t need to travel to play in other leagues, risk having their kit bags stolen, or be stuck waiting in hotels for non-payment.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This is unethical. I cannot respect such action.

I am also surprised other boards are okay with this.

The reason why India have the audacity to do this now is because other boards didn't object when IPL was at its infancy.

All boards have a right to deny NOC bro.

 

[sweep_shot]

All boards have a right to deny NOC bro.

All boards should deny NOCs for IPL, unless India also allow their players to play in other leagues.

Can't believe other boards are naive like this.

 

[Local.Dada]

All boards should deny NOCs for IPL, unless India also allow their players to play in other leagues.

Can't believe other boards are naive like this.

BPL should lead the way.

 

[sweep_shot]

BPL should lead the way.

Cricket Australia and ECB should lead the way. England invented the game; MCC should call the shots. How did they allow BCCI to hijack the sport?

 

[RahulBose]

Cricket Australia and ECB should lead the way. England invented the game; MCC should call the shots. How did they allow BCCI to hijack the sport?

Stinks of colonial mindset...

As if India asked for their permission.

 

[sweep_shot]

Stinks of colonial mindset...

As if India asked for their permission.

It is better if ECB run it instead of BCCI.

BCCI brings in petty politics and overcommercialization.

 

[RahulBose]

It is better if ECB run it instead of BCCI.

BCCI brings in petty politics and overcommercialization.

Who has stopped ECB from running it .

It's not as if the Britishers are kind hearted all of a sudden, if they could ... They would