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Should the fact Virat Kohli is playing on flat pitches and inferior bowlers be held against him?

Here is Kohli's record against the bowling attacks of Australia, England and South Africa, away:

Matches: 30
Average: 38
Centuries: 3
Centuries and average in won matches: 0 and 22

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/253802.html?class=2;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

avg of 38 (SR 85+) is not bad, but looks like his performances are not securing any wins and his team is winning without him contributing at all, (he got 0 fifty in wins)

Junaid brutally exposed his weakness so he is bound to struggle in testing conditions.

but full credit to him, for being the most consistent mega ftb.
 
avg of 38 (SR 85+) is not bad, but looks like his performances are not securing any wins and his team is winning without him contributing at all, (he got 0 fifty in wins)

Junaid brutally exposed his weakness so he is bound to struggle in testing conditions.

but full credit to him, for being the most consistent mega ftb.

He's great at what he does but is not without his weaknesses. Therefore the people in this thread that are saying that Kohli is outperforming everybody else and is far and away the best are simply glossing over some bitter truths.
 
He's great at what he does but is not without his weaknesses. Therefore the people in this thread that are saying that Kohli is outperforming everybody else and is far and away the best are simply glossing over some bitter truths.

he is doing lot better recently(2016), avg 76+ Sr 99+ (5 matches all against Aus, 91,59,117,106,8, first four resulted in loses, and when he scored 8, his team won :) )
 
avg of 38 (SR 85+) is not bad, but looks like his performances are not securing any wins and his team is winning without him contributing at all, (he got 0 fifty in wins)

Junaid brutally exposed his weakness so he is bound to struggle in testing conditions.

but full credit to him, for being the most consistent mega ftb.

Really, FTB?? :facepalm:

What was the performance in Asia Cup in Dhaka?? Those were real flat tracks when teams hardly managed to cross 100 in T20s. right !!

He has done well pretty much everywhere , but the only places he failed, those seem to have been good tracks, rest all were Flat tracks !! WAAAT a Logic Sir!!
 
He is absolutely murdering whatever is being put in front of him. If that happens to be flat tracks for now, not his fault. Let's see how he fares on his next tours to England, SA, etc. At this point, only a fool would bet against him.
 
But, again I have a reservation in your comments. It's not about Virat, I am a big fan of him - it's about your post. I understand, being rebellion or the devils advocate is a different status; but over doing something is not good.

I give another example - more or less, you have taken everything out of YK from helmet to underwear - UAE Khan, FTB, dancer .... I can go on. Same you are almost poet Kalidas, regarding Virat's last AUS tour - do you think, we don't understand cricket or don't watch it? :)

The topic of this post is, if Virat's stats should be held against him or not. My point is, NO - he is playing what is available in front of him. But, this is also true that he is playing in an era where batting stats are inflated for the nature of the game. Now, there are many players with 40/80 sort of stats - while Allen Border has 32/69 stats .... therefore that debate remains valid.

However, I think measuring Virat with stats is actually devaluing him - statistically, he is just at per with at least half a dozen contemporary player (he has 2 great home series hence now the stats are high - 3 months back, his Test average was in mid 40s - same can be said for Azhar - he is now batting at 48 average, as opener probably in 70s - in 10 Tests, 7 outside Asia without ZIM/WI, for an Asian opener, that's outstanding - but it's a small part of his career when he has hit the top).

Virat is far better player than what stats suggests, because he is contributing in win. Same can be said for Smith as well - and you said that for Root before he came to Asia, again you'll say that in English summer, before he goes to AUS.

These 4 are comparable to any era's top 4/5 players - I can say that beyond stats. How much ST would average now or Virat would have averaged in 90s is immaterial. By the way, Virat's IPL performance are not that great - if IPL is the benchmark, then you have to change your tone for AB De Villers ......

I don't draw parallels between Younis and Kohli. Younis has never been good enough to score against lateral movement and I don't need to look at stats when I have seen him fish wide outside the off-stump like an amateur for 17 years.

The way he averaged 4 in NZ a couple of months ago on green tops after the experience of 16 years and 100+ Tests summed it up for me, I don't have anything more to add on that. I also don't do the 'he is past his prime' nonsense - even in his so-called prime, he was a master fisherman both on and off the pitch.

In Kohli, I have full confidence that he will conquer all the challenges laid in his feet, because few players in 150+ years of the game have had better drive and work ethic. In Time, I expect Kohli to leave Younis in his dust as a Test batsman, which he has done in LOI cricket already. The gulf in class between the two batsmen is clear already, and Kohli is only entering his peak now.

I also don't judge Kohli by stats only, but the fact that he is the only player today to average 50+ in all three formats today certainly doesn't devalue him and puts him in the class of his own (which he is right now), but more than that, he is one of the most impactful cricketers I have ever seen.

When Kohli scores, 99% of the time Indian win regardless of the format. That is a special, special quality which even Sachin did not have.
 
avg of 38 (SR 85+) is not bad, but looks like his performances are not securing any wins and his team is winning without him contributing at all, (he got 0 fifty in wins)

Junaid brutally exposed his weakness so he is bound to struggle in testing conditions.

but full credit to him, for being the most consistent mega ftb.

So when is entire team failed and he still scored, the pitch was flat, but when he failed and entire team managed to score to win, the pitch was green!!

BRavo Logic!!! :))
 
Kohli is playing in pretty much the same era as ABDV or Amla,but people dont seem to bring up these discussions when talkng about greatness of ABDV.
 
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