Should the India versus England 3rd Test pitch be rated poor or unfit? Rated Average

[Geil]

The last match in the past four years which was rated poor was the South Africa v India (24/01/19) Wanderers Test

The wanderers test "had excessively steep and unpredictable bounce‚ and excessive seam movement.It deteriorated quickly as the match progressed‚ which made batting extremely difficult and hazardous‚ resulting in the medical staff from both sides having to come onto the field of play multiple times to treat their batsmen".

This was the quote by then Match referee Andy Pycroft

Javagal Srinath is the match referee for this test match so he will be the one who will rate this current pitch.

This pitch wasn't dangerous to play although in my opinion this pitch was certainly extremely difficult and challenging to bat right from Day 1

IMO this pitch should be rated either Average or Unfit.

I would call it Average because this isn't dangerous to bat like the Wanderers pitch but certainly challenging and difficult to bat.

How would you rate this pitch Average or Unfit?

 

[Devadwal]

Describe this Ahmedabad pitch in one word.

Pathetic

 

[Ab Fan]

Poor.

The rule is that if the contest between bat and bowl is massively one-sided towards one end, then the pitch should be qualified as " poor".

This test match will be over in two days.

Not sure how many points will be deducted for that for India.

 

[Devadwal]

Poor

 

[CanadianG00se]

Poor.

The rule is that if the contest between bat and bowl is massively one-sided towards one end, then the pitch should be qualified as " poor".

This test match will be over in two days.

Not sure how many points will be deducted for that for India.

I don’t think ICC can deduct points for poor pitch.

 

[Pakhs]

Poor.

The rule is that if the contest between bat and bowl is massively one-sided towards one end, then the pitch should be qualified as " poor".

This test match will be over in two days.

Not sure how many points will be deducted for that for India.

The Pitch is unfit and match will be over well under 2 days.

 

[Slim]

At least 110,000 can witness the pitch in front of their eyes vro!

 

[gani999]

Not poor.

It doesn't have to be rated 'poor' if it favoured the bowlers. It's partly the fault of the batsmen who were incapable of scoring runs and building partnerships on a wicket like this.

I doubt there would have been calls to rate the pitch 'poor' if the match had been a five day, high scoring borefest that ended in a draw.

 

[James]

Pitch should definitely be rated as Poor. No points within the World Test Championship should be awarded for the result of this match.

 

[Manunited18]

Pitch should definitely be rated as Poor. No points within the World Test Championship should be awarded for the result of this match.

Absolutely agree, ICC need to grow a pair and show leadership when it matters

 

[Geil]

Poor.

The rule is that if the contest between bat and bowl is massively one-sided towards one end, then the pitch should be qualified as " poor".

This test match will be over in two days.

Not sure how many points will be deducted for that for India.

I understand the poor pitch rating by you but if we go by the ICC definition of rating pitches then do you rate this match pitch poor as was the wanderers pitch which was also rated poor?

Wanderers pitch was dangerous to bat but this was difficult to bat but wasn't dangerous IMO so I don't think ICC or Srinath would rate it poor

 

[Pakhs]

Promotion of fast bowling culture by kholi, Now Indian fans will shout even louder that kholi should be hailed as the best Asian captain ever because of his promotion of fast bowling culture.

 

[pillionrider]

A difficult pitch to bat on, but England didn't use the advantage of the toss.

Both teams looked fairly ok whenever they had partnerships, but the nature of the pitch always ensured a collapse was around the corner.

Someone like Shane Watson would have smashed Axar to nothingness playing his slog sweeps. That's where Stokes was disappointing after having such a good start to the series.

This pitch is Indian cricket's version of the voting EVM. The losing team will cry and moan when they know deep down, the conditions that have been created ensured the winning team won fair and square.

However, a debate about the conditions and the circumstances under which they were created is a separate beast altogether

But the fact remains, whoever is better at playing the existing conditions, wins. Whether in cricket or politics.

England are welcome to prepare green seaming tracks when India visit next time. Whether they trust:

Their batsmen vs Bumrah, Shami, Ishant, Bhuvi/Siraj, Ashwin
over
Anderson, Broad, Archer, Stokes vs our batsmen

is the only question that matters

 

[90MPH]

ICC are going to do f all unfortunately but ideally it should be rated unfit so it sends a message to the home board you have to prepare a wicket that lasts 4/5 days.

 

[pillionrider]

Pitch should definitely be rated as Poor. No points within the World Test Championship should be awarded for the result of this match.

Yeah sure. You weren't singing this tune while rattling out 3-posts/minute when India were getting knocked over by Root )

 

[Manunited18]

Shambolic

 

[Geil]

Pitch should definitely be rated as Poor. No points within the World Test Championship should be awarded for the result of this match.

So then in your opinion wanderers pitch and Ahmedabad pitch are the same? No difference because wanderers pitch was rated poor but not unfit

There are I think five grades for rating 1.very good 2.good 3.Average 4.poor and 5. Unfit

 

[bahadur_billa]

There is no points deduction for poor pitch. Only if the pitch is dangerous and match is cancelled then the away team gets all the points. Only thing that can happen is the Ahmedabad Stadium getting 3 demerit points. 5 demerit points in a 5 year period gives the stadium 1 year ban from hosting international cricket.

 

[James]

Poor is when there is not a fair contest between bat and ball. If we are being honest, this game has not presented a balanced contest between bowlers and batsmen. Even if I did enjoy Root’s wickets. It’s a five-day format of cricket and the match is about to end in less than two days. That is a large red flag.

 

[Minnowbasher]

Poor

 

[ssuhaide]

Allotment

 

[Minnowbasher]

Rank

 

[Rajdeep]

It will be rated as poor and rightly so. ICC have taken action before as well and called 'Nagpur' pitch as poor.

India is a brilliant test side as we have seen during Australia tour and is capable of beating any team in any conditions. Not sure we needed rank turners to beat poms at home.

 

[Junaids]

Hilarious.

 

[pillionrider]

Basically a whole bunch of people were needlessly excited about pink ball test match, pink ball test match, and how Anderson and co were gonna run through the Indian team under lights.

Instead they got a 2-day test match )

 

[Junaids]

Poor.

Match over inside 2 days.

Only 385 runs scored in four innings.

No side managed to reach 150 in an innings.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

garbage

 

[Buffet]

Poor pitch.

 

[Geil]

Pitch and Outfield Ratings

ICC receives a rating on the performance of the pitch and the outfield for every Test Match, One Day International and Twenty20 International played between the countries. Pitches and outfields are marked after the match has ended by the ICC Match Referee on duty at the match. The rating is then provided as feedback to the host Member Board to assist in future pitch and outfield preparations for international matches at the relevant venue. In addition, if a pitch or outfield is marked as substandard the relevant Home Board and the venue are required to explain why the pitch and/or outfield performed below the required standard. A pitch or outfield is deemed to be substandard if it receives a rating of poor or unfit. Sanctions may be applied by ICC to a venue that presents a substandard pitch or outfield for international cricket.

The performance of pitches and outfields are rated as follows:

Very Good, Good, Average, Below Average, Poor, Unfit.

Source:https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/pitch-ratings


I understand why all ppers are rating this pitch poor but I would say first try to understand the definition of rating pitches by the ICC in the last four to five years then you find that the only pitch which was rated poor was the Wanderers pitch in 2019

Would you really say this Ahmadabad pitch was similar to Wanderers pitch. Wanders pitch was rated poor not even unfit.

It was rated poor because it was dangerous to play due to uneven bounce but Ahmadabad pitch wasn't dangerous like the Wanderers pitch so I don't understand why many are rating it poor?

 

[Reddy]

Poor.

The rule is that if the contest between bat and bowl is massively one-sided towards one end, then the pitch should be qualified as " poor".

This test match will be over in two days.

Not sure how many points will be deducted for that for India.

ICC does not deduct WTC points for poor pitch, some salty posters are just making new rules in their head, just ignore them.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Surgical Strike

 

[gibsyhesperis]

It is a poor pitch. Joe Root is not Shane Warne and he took a five-fer.
The highest score in the game will be 60 odd
It’s a shame, as it’s not a great advertisement for Test cricket.

India are a really good side (probably the best in the world) and should beat England at home without having to doctor the pitches so favourably.

 

[Muhammad]

Standard of the pitch is debatable but the standard of batting is definitely poor.

Yes it is tough, more so than is ideal but there’s generally been a complete lack of application and a defeatist mentality from the batsmen.

This pitch is probably not as tough as a couple that were produced for South Africa a few years ago. Then to watch supreme stroke players in Amla and De Villiers during the infamous blockathon was a remarkable example of adaptability.

Nothing approaching anywhere near that level of commitment has been in evidence today.

 

[Hyperion66]

Basically a whole bunch of people were needlessly excited about pink ball test match, pink ball test match, and how Anderson and co were gonna run through the Indian team under lights.

Instead they got a 2-day test match )

Yes exactly man

Only thing for me is I planned a small Friday night terrace party to drink and watch the match with buddies now after what happened today I will have to go with my usual Friday night-movie night thingy with family

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

It wil be rated poor.

Not happy with the fact that this pitch was dished out.

But this doesn't take away from the fact that batting standards have been woeful this test.

Eng 72-2 to 112 all out. Needless wickets and ****** batting.

India 99-3 to 145 all out. Shameful batting really.

The way England played Axar patel in the first over in the 3rd innings was one of the most horrible batting I have seen in a long long time.

You can't do THAT many basic mistakes and blame the pitch.

No wonder Sunny Gavaskar was so annoyed.

 

[Shafi]

Regardless the pitch England bats like associate team and should consider themselves like not to loose this match by innings. Apart from Root and couple of others most of their batsmen are rubbish. Even in last match Ashwin performed better than whole England team.

 

[Bewal Express]

Poor wicket destroyed a potentially good test. For me all the wickets in the series have been poor.

 

[OldWarHorse]

Tearjerker

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

If there's an option of "Pathetic" then that would a perfect rating

 

[naseem]

Not poor.

It doesn't have to be rated 'poor' if it favoured the bowlers. It's partly the fault of the batsmen who were incapable of scoring runs and building partnerships on a wicket like this.

I doubt there would have been calls to rate the pitch 'poor' if the match had been a five day, high scoring borefest that ended in a draw.

In plain language it is poor

 

[naseem]

Poorest of pathetic. pitches.....

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

It wil be rated poor.

Not happy with the fact that this pitch was dished out.

But this doesn't take away from the fact that batting standards have been woeful this test.

Eng 72-2 to 112 all out. Needless wickets and ****** batting.

India 99-3 to 145 all out. Shameful batting really.

The way England played Axar patel in the first over in the 3rd innings was one of the most horrible batting I have seen in a long long time.

You can't do THAT many basic mistakes and blame the pitch.

No wonder Sunny Gavaskar was so annoyed.

I personally don't have any issues with this pitch.

Think it will be rated poor just like Chennai based on ICC rulebooks.

I am just unhappy we dished out this pitch cos this is risky for our team who are awful awful players of spin.

A tough pitch made into a minefield by Indian bats.

We are just lucky we are not facing our own spinners or else it was game over lol.

 

[observer1]

Beach

 

[observer1]

When Joe Root bats like a tailender and gets 5-9 bowling, the word "poor" is a gross understatement.

 

[Buffet]

Poor.

Match over inside 2 days.

Only 385 runs scored in four innings.

No side managed to reach 150 in an innings.

I won't go by total score etc. Eng is not going to score 200+ if the ball turns much. Eng is inept when the ball turns.

The total score being XYZ is misleading. India batted poorly in one inning. If India had batted poorly in the last tests also then the stats would have looked poor in the last test as well.

Here is how it looks when you zoom out.

Eng's last 5 innings when the ball has been turning,

178
134
164
112
81



The total score will be always low if the opposition does not score in turning tracks. I won't judge a pitch based on how much Eng scores on turning tracks.

It is a poor pitch and it is not due to Eng not able to score. It is a poor pitch due to turning too much from the get-go and making it too hard for batsmen to score runs.

 

[NishanKonar]

If both teams get bowled out for sub 150 totals - then its poor pitch

No 2 ways about it

 

[IMMY69]

Just Imagine if Pakistan had produced a pitch like this...

 

[Buffet]

Regardless the pitch England bats like associate team and should consider themselves like not to loose this match by innings. Apart from Root and couple of others most of their batsmen are rubbish. Even in last match Ashwin performed better than whole England team.

The bold part will be ignored by many here.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

If both teams get bowled out for sub 150 totals - then its poor pitch

No 2 ways about it

Not thorough enough way to judge stuff.

If both teams are crap, they will crumble on a tough pitch.

Usually home teams are good in their conditions but our Maharathis are a special case.

 

[Pakhs]

Not thorough enough way to judge stuff.

If both teams are crap, they will crumble on a tough pitch.

Usually home teams are good in their conditions but our Maharathis are a special case.

Pitch has been exploding regardless of who is standing on the pitch.

 

[street cricketer]

Poor wicket destroyed a potentially good test. For me all the wickets in the series have been poor.

My feelings on this series.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

A completely doctored joke of a pitch. Whoever gave the go ahead to produce this pitch should be ashamed of themselves. To score 145 and still win the match inside 2 days is absolutely shambolic.

 

[street cricketer]

I think a pitch would be rated unfit if play gets abandoned due to dangerous conditions. Remember a wicket in the Caribbean against England that had the match abandoned after a few overs as so many guys were getting hurt. Similarly a match at the Ferozshah Kotla got abandoned for the same reason against Sri Lanka if I remember correctly.

 

[Geil]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

According to the ICC's pitch and outfield monitoring process, a pitch is said to be poor if any of the following apply:

The pitch offers excessive seam movement at any stage of the match
The pitch displays excessive unevenness of bounce for any bowler at any stage of the match
The pitch offers excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match
The pitch displays little or no seam movement or turn at any stage in the match together with no significant bounce or carry, thereby depriving the bowlers of a fair contest between bat and ball

This pitch certainly offered assistance to spinners but I am not so sure it offered excessive assistance, this is where I have my opinion differ from others, I would rate it as Average because this pitch wasn't like the pitches we have seen in Nagpur in 2015 or the 2017 pune pitch

 

[Amjid Javed]

Just Imagine if Pakistan had produced a pitch like this...

Indian fans like mamoon would be calling for pakistan to be stripped of test status.

 

[Ab Fan]

Pitch and Outfield Ratings

ICC receives a rating on the performance of the pitch and the outfield for every Test Match, One Day International and Twenty20 International played between the countries. Pitches and outfields are marked after the match has ended by the ICC Match Referee on duty at the match. The rating is then provided as feedback to the host Member Board to assist in future pitch and outfield preparations for international matches at the relevant venue. In addition, if a pitch or outfield is marked as substandard the relevant Home Board and the venue are required to explain why the pitch and/or outfield performed below the required standard. A pitch or outfield is deemed to be substandard if it receives a rating of poor or unfit. Sanctions may be applied by ICC to a venue that presents a substandard pitch or outfield for international cricket.

The performance of pitches and outfields are rated as follows:

Very Good, Good, Average, Below Average, Poor, Unfit.

Source:https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/pitch-ratings


I understand why all ppers are rating this pitch poor but I would say first try to understand the definition of rating pitches by the ICC in the last four to five years then you find that the only pitch which was rated poor was the Wanderers pitch in 2019

Would you really say this Ahmadabad pitch was similar to Wanderers pitch. Wanders pitch was rated poor not even unfit.

It was rated poor because it was dangerous to play due to uneven bounce but Ahmadabad pitch wasn't dangerous like the Wanderers pitch so I don't understand why many are rating it poor?

Read this.

https://www.crictracker.com/india-in...is-rated-poor/


What is a ‘Poor’ pitch?
According to ICC’s rules, the pitches are divided into different categories depending on the nature of the contest. As per the rules, a pitch is rated ‘Poor’ if it does not allow an even contest between bat and ball. As far as the ongoing game is concerned, India have done well with both bat and ball so far but it is England‘s failure with the bat that has played a big role in the pitch’s criticism.

“A poor pitch is one that does not even allow an even contest between bat and ball, either by favouring batters too much, and not giving the bowlers (seam and spin) from either side sufficient opportunity to take wickets, or by favouring the bowlers too much (seam or spin), and not giving the batters from either team the opportunity to make runs,” reads the ICC’s rule.

At the same time, the rules also state that a pitch is poor if it assists the spinners right from the start of the match. This is where things could get trickier for the home side as the spinners were able to get a sharp turn on the pitch right from day one.

 

[Reddy]

35/0 (7) CRR: 5

Good batting by India

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Pitch has been exploding regardless of who is standing on the pitch.

The word "exploding" gets many riled up. Its how it plays that matters. Not how it looks.

Chennai 2013 was a literal beach. Google it. They were using jaadu to clean it up. But scores were high by both sides.

Here bounce was consistent.

Turn was a bit iffy but that happens which is why you gotta either get to the pitch of the ball or play super late.

 

[guna]

I did not see any unplayable delivery in India's 2nd innings. Looked like a typical Day-2 pitch.

 

[Artaxerxes]

This is one of the worst pitches I have seen.The Indian fans will say there is nothing wrong with the pitch,its poor batting to blame .

 

[Geil]

Read this.

https://www.crictracker.com/india-in...is-rated-poor/


What is a ‘Poor’ pitch?
According to ICC’s rules, the pitches are divided into different categories depending on the nature of the contest. As per the rules, a pitch is rated ‘Poor’ if it does not allow an even contest between bat and ball. As far as the ongoing game is concerned, India have done well with both bat and ball so far but it is England‘s failure with the bat that has played a big role in the pitch’s criticism.

“A poor pitch is one that does not even allow an even contest between bat and ball, either by favouring batters too much, and not giving the bowlers (seam and spin) from either side sufficient opportunity to take wickets, or by favouring the bowlers too much (seam or spin), and not giving the batters from either team the opportunity to make runs,” reads the ICC’s rule.

At the same time, the rules also state that a pitch is poor if it assists the spinners right from the start of the match. This is where things could get trickier for the home side as the spinners were able to get a sharp turn on the pitch right from day one.

I have already posted why ICC rates a pitch poor which in this case it is

"The pitch offers excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match"

IMO certainly there was assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match but I am still skeptical in accepting that there was excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match to rate this pitch poor

Why I am skeptical because I don't think this pitch has offered the excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match like the 2017 and 2015 pune and nagpur pitch which is why I think ICC might not rate it poor

 

[Pakhs]

The word "exploding" gets many riled up. Its how it plays that matters. Not how it looks.

Chennai 2013 was a literal beach. Google it. They were using jaadu to clean it up. But scores were high by both sides.

Here bounce was consistent.

Turn was a bit iffy but that happens which is why you gotta either get to the pitch of the ball or play super late.

So if the pitch is exploding its fine? What sort of pitch starts exploding on the first day or even first session only one sort of pitch will do that which is not prepared properly.

Now how you play on it is irrelevant I can tell you how to play on ice just dont let the ball bounce does not mean its okay to play on ice. There has to be a certain standard of how pitches should be like at the top level India have been going below the belt too many time since Dhoni / Kholi era and something has to be done globally.

Other team have been doing it to for too long as well but this extreme use of home advantage by Dhoni and Kholi has pushed it too far for me and some sort of standardization has to be brought into the game.

 

[Pakhs]

I have already posted why ICC rates a pitch poor which in this case it is

"The pitch offers excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match"

IMO certainly there was assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match but I am still skeptical in accepting that there was excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match to rate this pitch poor

Why I am skeptical because I don't think this pitch has offered the excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match like the 2017 and 2015 pune and nagpur pitch which is why I think ICC might not rate it poor

Early in the match? Its still early in the match half way into 2nd Day lol

 

[Buffet]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

According to the ICC's pitch and outfield monitoring process, a pitch is said to be poor if any of the following apply:

The pitch offers excessive seam movement at any stage of the match
The pitch displays excessive unevenness of bounce for any bowler at any stage of the match
The pitch offers excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match
The pitch displays little or no seam movement or turn at any stage in the match together with no significant bounce or carry, thereby depriving the bowlers of a fair contest between bat and ball

This pitch certainly offered assistance to spinners but I am not so sure it offered excessive assistance, this is where I have my opinion differ from others, I would rate it as Average because this pitch wasn't like the pitches we have seen in Nagpur in 2015 or the 2017 pune pitch

I personally don't have an issue with any movement as long as it is not dangerous for batsmen. I have an issue with unvene bounce.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

According to the ICC's pitch and outfield monitoring process, a pitch is said to be poor if any of the following apply:

The pitch offers excessive seam movement at any stage of the match
The pitch displays excessive unevenness of bounce for any bowler at any stage of the match
The pitch offers excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match
The pitch displays little or no seam movement or turn at any stage in the match together with no significant bounce or carry, thereby depriving the bowlers of a fair contest between bat and ball

This pitch certainly offered assistance to spinners but I am not so sure it offered excessive assistance, this is where I have my opinion differ from others, I would rate it as Average because this pitch wasn't like the pitches we have seen in Nagpur in 2015 or the 2017 pune pitch

It wasn't that bad a pitch.

England had a golden opportunity to win this game (or come really close) if only they had fixed their mindset.

The first over of Axar in 3rd innings was telling.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

India should stop these pitches cos this is harming us more than helping us.

Once we learn how to play spin, we can dish out these pitches. lol.

 

[mazkhan]

When people like root get a 5fer alarm bells should be ringing .

Icc needs to get a grip on this

Theres 2 who are blatant pitch tamperers india and new Zealand

Followed by australia


Australia and New Zealand manipulate the pitch via drop in wickets. And new Zealand have a habit of producing green pitches with hybrid grass or pitches with invariable bounce that causes balls to stay low or rise up basically spit at the batsmen they used proper doctored pitch in 2nd test match for jamieson against pakistan where we saw horrible invariable bounce and people like shan and abid crapping it.

Whilst these indians keep producing these turners that are not even intl test standard pitch how can this be an advert for test cricket .

Also icc need to get rid of this pink ball , if u want day night use the white ball and change it every 50/60 overs.

 

[JattMaula]

Batsmen of both team should be rated poor.

 

[Geil]

I personally don't have an issue with any movement as long as it is not dangerous for batsmen. I have an issue with unvene bounce.

From Fair Cricketing sense I would rate this pitch surely poor but not poor as per ICC guidelines of rating a pitch because I could not find this pitch to be unplayable like the previous Indian pitches which were rated poor by ICC which is my argument

 

[Kaizoku]

Poor pitch. ICC should implement an SOP regarding preparation of pitch. There would be still a massive home advantage owing to nature of soil, weather conditions, home crowd and experience of playing.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Basically India's unnecessary collapse make it look worse. From 99/2 India's collapse that too against root was horrible. I have seen far far worse pitches than this.

 

[Firebat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cant watch the test match in Ahmedabad from our hotel in the West Indies but seriously game over on day 2!<br>Test cricket is a test between the skills of players mentally,physically and technically and when it is so much in favour of 1 skill it loses its appeal......<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvENG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvENG</a></p>— Mickey Arthur (@Mickeyarthurcr1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mickeyarthurcr1/status/1364926344145096708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Batsmen of both team should be rated poor.

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This.

Made me chuckle.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

Batsmen of both team should be rated poor.

Shortest completed Test match since 1935.
Either the batting is woeful or the pitch is poor.
Probably a bit of both

 

[Geil]

India should stop these pitches cos this is harming us more than helping us.

Once we learn how to play spin, we can dish out these pitches. lol.

certainly it shows India in a bad way especially when they have been the top test team in the past years and they are making pitches on which quite a few Indian batsman are struggling to score runs

 

[Markhor]

The word "exploding" gets many riled up. Its how it plays that matters. Not how it looks.

Chennai 2013 was a literal beach. Google it. They were using jaadu to clean it up. But scores were high by both sides.

Here bounce was consistent.

Turn was a bit iffy but that happens which is why you gotta either get to the pitch of the ball or play super late.

Come on dude, you're known for being objective but criticising poor techniques against spin and a poor pitch are not mutually exclusive. Even accounting for lousy batting techniques, which I certainly accept, part-timers like Joe Root should not be taking 5-8 against any Test lineup.

I'm for home advantage but not extreme conditions. This pitch was producing excessive turn not by global standards, but by Indian standards. Day 2 India pitches have produced average of 3.4° of turn since 2016. This Day 2 pitch produced 4.9° of turn so it was more than iffy.

This was the shortest Test since 1935 so unsurprising so many feel shortchanged.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

certainly it shows India in a bad way especially when they have been the top test team in the past years and they are making pitches on which quite a few Indian batsman are struggling to score runs

Absolutely.

A very shambolic test match from start to end.

 

[dildilpak]

if 30 wickets fall in the first five sessions despite having a number of high quality batsmen in both teams, it has to be a poor pitch.

 

[Robert]

Poor pitch. Apart from Rohit, nobody could bat on it.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Come on dude, you're known for being objective but criticising poor techniques against spin and a poor pitch are not mutually exclusive. Even accounting for lousy batting techniques, which I certainly accept, part-timers like Joe Root should not be taking 5-8 against any Test lineup.

I'm for home advantage but not extreme conditions. This pitch was producing excessive turn not by global standards, but by Indian standards. Day 2 India pitches have produced average of 3.4° of turn since 2016. This Day 2 pitch produced 4.9° of turn so it was more than iffy.

This was the shortest Test since 1935 so unsurprising so many feel shortchanged.

I think you got upset with my use of "iffy".

If you read my post carefully, I didn't say turn was iffy.

There was a lot of turn.

I said consistency of turn was iffy.

Which is why so many bats got out to the straighter ball.

Chenn had more consistent turn.

I am not happy with this pitch personally. Just that I can't call it an unplayable minefield cos that ain't true.