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Should there be a division two of the Pakistan Super League?

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This idea was coming in my mind it will be great to have psl division 2.
Reason no 1:The city fight going on for 7 and 8 franchise from now onward another division will mean we can have 8 more cities' teams.
Reason 2:Some good players who went unsold or who don't get chances in PSL including foreigners can get a chance there to improve themselves.
Reason 3:Good money for PCB
Reason 4:more entertainment and our players who don't get selected in PSL will not have to beg other countries' leagues or PCB for any allowance
It will be best the top 2 teams for PSL division 2 will get promoted in PSL division 1 and last 2 teams from PSL division one will be relegated to PSL division 2
There can be a under 19 and regional player quota in PSL DIV 2 so that more players will get chances
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If the league is small and there is tough competition for the a limited number of spots then the hardest will come forward, and the weak will be left behind.
 
Someone would have to be willing to spend a lot of money to create another 7-8 teams to justify two divisions of PSL.

However I do like the idea of regional player quotas. Regional rivalries are very important for franchise and club competitions in any sport as it can generate more interest amongst fans. However without the teams having local players these rivalries lack authenticity.

I'd also support a rule mandating two emerging players to be named in the starting XIs, I'd prefer to see youngsters given an opportunity to make a name for themselves than the same T20 franchise journeymen we've seen a hundred times before in other leagues.
 
Why not have like an under 23 or under 25 league. All the teams would have the same names and be owned by the current franchises, so Lahore is still Lahore Qalandars, Karachi are still the kings, and so on. Each of the current franchises basically would have a under 25 team.

You can still have foreign players but they have to be under 25 as well.

This would be great for new talent.
 
This idea was coming in my mind it will be great to have psl division 2.
Reason no 1:The city fight going on for 7 and 8 franchise from now onward another division will mean we can have 8 more cities' teams.
Reason 2:Some good players who went unsold or who don't get chances in PSL including foreigners can get a chance there to improve themselves.
Reason 3:Good money for PCB
Reason 4:more entertainment and our players who don't get selected in PSL will not have to beg other countries' leagues or PCB for any allowance
It will be best the top 2 teams for PSL division 2 will get promoted in PSL division 1 and last 2 teams from PSL division one will be relegated to PSL division 2
There can be a under 19 and regional player quota in PSL DIV 2 so that more players will get chances
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I don't think PSL can accommodate 12 teams (That's bare minimum for 2 Division). One reason is that the economics behind it - 12 teams means a smaller bucket and the foreign players' quality will go down. 2nd issue is over killing the interest. For PSL, what they can do is premium league & plate league after 10 matches (1st round). That's after double league 1st round, top 3 teams play for Premier league, bottom 3 for plate. 4 matches each, followed by a Gala Final for both league. That's 10+4+1 = 15 matches for 4 finalists, and in total 44 matches, which can be finished in 35-38 days. Otherwise if PSL is expanded or extended beyond it's economic capacity, what'll happen is Anamul & Shohag Gazi will end up playing in PSL 1st Division as foreign picks.

What you are telling is not a possibility, it's essential for any Domestic system - I wrote something on this and one of the major point there was 16 team (could be Regional model or Corporate model) National League in 2 Division, which should accumulate 200 top cricketers in Country + may be 50 youngsters. My suggestion was for List A, but T20 is probably call of the day, which is fair enough, still works.

But, what doesn't work is this joke - draft system for domestic cricket. It never worked for long term, won't ever work in a functional system, otherwise we would have seen it Europe or North American sports. Ideally, there should be 16 City based Team (Well, large Cities can have 2 teams like whites, blues, pinks, purples, crimsons, icy blues, metallic ashes ... doesn't matter), WITH AT LEAST 1/3rd THE PLAYERS ARE LOCAL, rest can be coming from other Cities. Idea is that, since talent isn't uniformly distributed across country, so every player will have a base City - he'll try to get into the club (s) of his city, if not he can get the NOC and go for open bidding from any other City - so at the end, at least 90% of top 200 players will have some club and more or less Blues, Dolphins, Stallions, Rams, Wolves .... to Mirpur Commandos & Gwadar Chankus will have comparable squad and PAK domestic stats will have some meaning - you won't be dropping from your chair (almost) after watch the belly size of a fast bowler taking 16 wickets in one match for the Premium league ..........

BUT, those clubs has to be a continuous process and the squad (most of it) will be retained so that there is a continuation in team culture - may be every year 2/3 players will be released, 2/3 coming from youth teams and 2/3 retires - but the core of every squad remains intact, Captain, coach (s) and selectors are retained for long term under some annual contract, so that it's a continuous process like what they are doing in IND or BD. In short, this is how club teams works in every sports - from Ice Hockey to EPL to Aussie rules to Sepak Takraw. This is a joke that every time they do some draft and players need to suck something to get his club - biggest piece of the Charade was that last year's T20 winners didn't make this years cut because of their FC result .... and some tool will say that I have a vendetta against PCB ......
 
There will be huge loses for PSL teams if they are relegated. PSL 2 consisting of 6 teams and all games played in Pakistan make sense. The most successful team can then be promoted as an extra team for PSL.
 
1 division is fine. Instead of focusing on the PSL so much, PCB should look to improve the first class structure and pitches.
 
1 division is fine. Instead of focusing on the PSL so much, PCB should look to improve the first class structure and pitches.
That would be the logical thing to do. But you are forgetting who you are giving this advice to, PCB.:yk2:asif
 
This idea was coming in my mind it will be great to have psl division 2.
Reason no 1:The city fight going on for 7 and 8 franchise from now onward another division will mean we can have 8 more cities' teams.
Reason 2:Some good players who went unsold or who don't get chances in PSL including foreigners can get a chance there to improve themselves.
Reason 3:Good money for PCB
Reason 4:more entertainment and our players who don't get selected in PSL will not have to beg other countries' leagues or PCB for any allowance
It will be best the top 2 teams for PSL division 2 will get promoted in PSL division 1 and last 2 teams from PSL division one will be relegated to PSL division 2
There can be a under 19 and regional player quota in PSL DIV 2 so that more players will get chances
Start discussing [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

No not a fan of 2 leagues in PSL :)
For me the biggest thing about PSL is its a medium for Pakistani players to show their talent. All the players should play against same quality of opposition.

For your points 2 and 4, what they should do is to increase the number of Pakistan players. Atleast 3 emerging with 2 in playing X1 is a must! Atleast 7-8 quality talented youngsters missed out.
 
Ideally for me the National T20 Cup would be played in Sept./Middle of Oct. with the 12-16 regional teams (like a full proper tournament with home and away matches) with only Pakistani players playing followed by the PSL draft in early November a few weeks after the final. This would allow the PSL teams to scout players throughout the tournament and process that information before drafting for the following edition of the PSL.

Patrons Cup - First class competition between Departments only from Nov-Jan. 10-14 teams (I'm not sure how many departments there are. Maybe divide into two divisions.)

During the Sept. - Jan. period also have regional/district Grade I, II, and U-19 tournaments happening.

PSL in Feburary

QeA Trophy (FC) / OD Cup in Feb - May between 5 teams (Punjab, Sindh, KP, Balochistan, Federal). These teams would ideally be selected based on performance in the preceding Departmental FC competition, therefor being a higher quality competition with smaller number of teams.

Ideally I think that would be happening every year so that players have a sense of seasons and knowing when they will be playing and hence getting paid regularly. Anyway, that's the quick and dirty explanation.
 
No, will lose the charm. Already 8-10 leagues and then div2,3 will never work.
 
No, the charm about PSL is that there aren't gazillion of teams in it, making the competition short and competitive.

If you make two divisions, it would make the tournament longer than needed and as many competitive games.
 
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