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Shubman Gill or Babar Azam - Who will be the number one ODI batter when the 2023 World Cup ends?

Shubman Gill or Babar Azam - Who will be the number one ODI batter when the 2023 World Cup ends?

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CerebralPatriot said:
Gill is easily the most talented batsmen of this generation and will dominate world cricket for at least the next 10 years.

Babar isn't even the most talented cricketer in Pakistan (Saud Shakeel is) however he will continue to stat pad and play the good innings on occasion
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Babar is the greatest Batter Pakistan has ever produced till date and one of the best ever to ever held a bat.
 
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RidiculousMan said:
Shubman not playing the last ODI tells you really that the team and the player is not after a rank. Bur rather simply to deliver in the main event. "World Cup".
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Shubman will be No.1 before 14th of October if not on the day
 
Gill is getting into that Virat Kohli zone of 2012. I will be surprised if he doesn't perform and win matches vs top teams also.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
The way Shubman is performing it's very unlikely that he will take any sort of pressure, as he has already scored significant number of runs recently which should boost his confidence enough to maintain his form.

Additionally, the World Cup is being held in India which will further alleviate any pressure he might feel becasue he would be playing on his home grounds.
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Preassure of home Crowd is unimaginible . 2012 t20 final SL lost it all due to preassure india lost it in 1996 semis against SL ! Imran khan famiusl7 once said his team failed to chase in 1987 infront of capacity home Crowd.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Don't care about rankings. Travis Head would have been most impactful if fit.
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Not necessarily. The stats for SENA and India batters is overinflated as they play on the truest wickets in the world. Travis Head is still scary good batter though but Asian conditions are different.
 
It will be Baber Azam, 9 centuries coming at the SR of 85%, getting to no 1 is important as compared to winning the WC.
 
MenInG said:
Gautam Gambhir:

"The kind of technique Babar Azam has, I think he will score three or four centuries for Pakistan in this World Cup,"

www.hindustantimes.com

Gautam Gambhir's ‘century’ prediction for Babar Azam can send alarm bells to all World Cup teams

Gautam Gambhir shared his views about batting superstars Rohit Sharma and Babar Azam in the lead-up to the ICC World Cup.
www.hindustantimes.com www.hindustantimes.com
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I mean I see that happening. He'll probs score against nedtherlands, NZ(He fancies NZ and Sodhi especially), and probably one more against any other teams.

He ain't scoring against Sri Lanka due to wallenge, Afghanistan due to rashid and mujeeb, and Australia or India. Babar has been poor against India in odi and I don't see him doing too well against stark, not that babar is bad, but stark's killer inswing will trouble any bat in the cup, including kohli.
 
mominsaigol said:
I mean I see that happening. He'll probs score against nedtherlands, NZ(He fancies NZ and Sodhi especially), and probably one more against any other teams.

He ain't scoring against Sri Lanka due to wallenge, Afghanistan due to rashid and mujeeb, and Australia or India. Babar has been poor against India in odi and I don't see him doing too well against stark, not that babar is bad, but stark's killer inswing will trouble any bat in the cup, including kohli.
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Well last time when babar faced starc in australia, he never got himself in trouble infact he was smashing him all over the park, so i dont think playing fast inswing deliveries can cause any sort of problems to babar because he is so good with his flick shots.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Well last time when babar faced starc in australia, he never got himself in trouble infact he was smashing him all over the park, so i dont think playing fast inswing deliveries can cause any sort of problems to babar because he is so good with his flick shots.
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Yh but stark against nedtherlands was bowling Ct 2017 amir Level inswings. Ain't no one playing that.

Regardless we'll see, Stark is inconsistent, he's not exactly known for bumrah level consistency lol.
 
mominsaigol said:
I mean I see that happening. He'll probs score against nedtherlands, NZ(He fancies NZ and Sodhi especially), and probably one more against any other teams.

He ain't scoring against Sri Lanka due to wallenge, Afghanistan due to rashid and mujeeb, and Australia or India. Babar has been poor against India in odi and I don't see him doing too well against stark, not that babar is bad, but stark's killer inswing will trouble any bat in the cup, including kohli.
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Babar averages 74 vs the Aussies and has already scored a Century against Starc being a 22 year old at their yard.
 
In the latest ICC Rankings, Pakistan skipper Babar Azam (857 ranking points) holds onto the top spot ahead of Shubman Gill (839) and Rassie van der Dussen (743), while his teammate Imam-ul-Haq (728) drops one place to fifth.
 
News coming in that Gill is down with dengue!

Not yet clear how many matches he will miss.

Source: Dainik Jagran.
 
Gill is set to miss first 2 matches of ICC world cup due to dengue. this is really big big blow.
 
This is a huge blow for Indian team considering the form Gill was in. Hoping for his speedy recovery.
 
I think it take atleast 15 day to recover from dengue as To achieve the full strength sometimes it even take one months.
This is big disaster for us
 
Personally I don’t care who’s No1. Whoever dominates the KO stages is No1 in my eyes.
 
Rahul Drvaid on Gill:

“He’s certainly feeling better today,"

"The medical team is monitoring on daily basis. We have 36 hours, we’ll see what decision they take. He’s certainly feeling better today.”

“Medical team hasn’t ruled him out as yet.

"We’ll keep monitoring him on a day to day basis. We’ll see how he feels day after tomorrow,”
 
Pakistan skipper Babar Azam holds onto top spot in the ODI batting rankings despite scores of 10 against Sri Lanka and five against Netherlands so far at the showpiece event.

India's young gun Shubman Gill remains in second place even while sidelined due to illness.
ICC
 
Babar had an advantage of playing two more matches due to Shubman's illness.

Now let's see how Shubman performs as he makes his return tomorrow.
 
I don' think he is playing. THey are just making some statements. IT is not possible to recover so fast from dengue as your immunity gets compromised. Hope the geniuses don't play him. Full recovery is necessary. This 99% is a fake number.
 
Apparently Shubman Gill is in good form and playing at home is giving him an advantage. But we can't deny the class of Babar. Because form is temporary but class is forever
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I don' think he is playing. THey are just making some statements. IT is not possible to recover so fast from dengue as your immunity gets compromised. Hope the geniuses don't play him. Full recovery is necessary. This 99% is a fake number.
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Misbah was describing how long it took him. I mean even a nornal viral can take 3 or 4 weeks for energy levels to recover.
 
I guess Gill will be playing today. But if he is not fit then he should definitely rest as dengue is not something you can take for fun.
 
In the latest ICC Players Ranking, Babar Azam is still the No1 Odi Batter with 836 rating points while Shubman Gill is in 2nd place with 816 points. The points difference has reduced and we might see a new No. 1 batter after this World Cup ends.
 
With Babar failing yesterday and Shubman scoring a 50 against Bangladesh the gap between them is narrowing fast. the matches on Sunday and monday may decide if Gill can dethrone Babar and claim the top spot in Men's ODI batsman rankings.

Also Gill needs 14 runs to become the fastest to 2000 runs. If he does that tomorrow he will take 38 innings to reach the milestone while Amla took 40 innings. Lots riding for Gill personally tomorrow.
 
Apt comparison this both accumulators or anchors or whatever is the term.
 
They've both had similarish tournaments so far, though Babar has played two more games.

Both have a 50 to their name of moot value, and then nothing scores (a string in Babar's case).
 
Sunzi said:
They've both had similarish tournaments so far, though Babar has played two more games.

Both have a 50 to their name of moot value, and then nothing scores (a string in Babar's case).
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But him missing 2 games due to dengue cost him points.
 
Sunzi said:
Yeah acknowledged.

I'm not talking about the rankings, just based it off tournament performances so far.
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Gill is a high risk batsman. He doesn't protect his wicket safely and pile up runs. Even the dismissal against Pakistan was nothing to do with ball being good. He middled it. Just a fantastic catch. Against BD he went for a lofted shot where he could have easily stat padded to a century. He is by nature an aggressive batsman.
 
I don't care about his ranking. I just want him to take his game to next level in all formats. If he stat pads for ranking he will lose some of his fans.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Gill is a high risk batsman. He doesn't protect his wicket safely and pile up runs. Even the dismissal against Pakistan was nothing to do with ball being good. He middled it. Just a fantastic catch. Against BD he went for a lofted shot where he could have easily stat padded to a century. He is by nature an aggressive batsman.
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Yeah, I see that. It feels, from what I've witnessed so far, that Gill could stamp his authority on a game - he's playing with more intent. Babar, I dunno, it's been meek failures and a meaningless 50 vs India which was almost counterproductive in the tempo it was made at as it felt like it put pressure on the rest of the team.
 
The difference between the 2 has narrowed down to 6 points. Pakistan play SA on Friday and India plays ENG on Sunday. Interesting week ahead in terms of battle between the 2 for the top spot.

Meanwhile the King has risen to no. 5 silently. If he continues his form in teh next 3 weeks there might be a surprise in store for all.
 
Gill is nowhere near Babar at this point. Babar looks so solid and confident. Gill has so far scored 16, 53, 26 in this WC. He has a long way to go before he can reach anywhere close to Babar. He needs to become a man and play a long innings in a crucial game to take his team home. Rankings don't really matter and can be very misleading.
 
Babar has got his form back, if he keeps playing like this i am sure he will remain the number 1 batter in ODIs for sure.

But at the other end Shubman is closing in very quickly, thanks to ICC! :D
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Babar has got his form back, if he keeps playing like this i am sure he will remain the number 1 batter in ODIs for sure.

But at the other end Shubman is closing in very quickly, thanks to ICC! :D
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lol at thank to ICC what does that mean?
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Babar has got his form back, if he keeps playing like this i am sure he will remain the number 1 batter in ODIs for sure.

But at the other end Shubman is closing in very quickly, thanks to ICC! :D
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Yes, I'm sure he was crying tears of joy to get his form back
 
Gill's Denuge really interrupted him somewhat. But still his timing was great. He looked good in each outing trying to dominate. When he turns it around it is goign to be an eye-catching stuff
 
Gautam Gambhir holding back no punches:

"You want to talk about Babar's captaincy and his batting...he scored three fifties in the last six games. I don't know why he is No.1 ranked ICC batter. Yes he has scored a lot of runs in the last two years. He has 19 centuries to his name but records and rankings are all too very overrated. A No.1 player is that who helps you win matches. He has scored a lot of runs but is yet to play an impactful knock where he has single-handedly won the game for the team. He scored three fifties in this World Cup but Pakistan went past 300 only once, against Australia, which they eventually lost,"
 
I dislike stat padders. Babar seems to play for it despite being a good but not great player. Gill appears to play more for the team and I do like that about him. Explosive player that can take the game away from you. Still has time. Let's see how this battle unfolds.
 
Gill has far more potential and ability than Babar. Gill is the next big thing after Kohli.

Babar will remain an average statpadder.
 
I think someone else wil become number 1 in ODIs because form of these 2 is not letting them go anywhere.

Rohit Sharma could be the one!
 
All the rankings are crap. Based of current form the batting ranks of the tournament shpuld be

1) Quinton de kock (Best batter of the tournament currently)

2) Virat Kohli ( He has the highest avg per game despite not having the most runs. Despite a duck, his avg is still 88 and the highest minus kl rahul)

3) Makram (Best no 4)

4) David Warner (2nd best opener of the tournament so far)

5) Rohit sharma (Best right handed opener)

6) Ravindra

7) Klaseen

8) Daryl Mitchell

9) Devon Conway

10) KL Rahul

Honorable Mentions: Travis head(Only played one game, Glenn maxwell( good batting but 40 ball 100 came against minnow, but end of tournament he'll > Mitchell and Klaseen)

^^ the rank > is the definitive rank atm.
 
Babar Azam - 818 rating.

Shubman Gill - 816 rating.

The difference is just 1 point for the number 1 ranking in ODIs
 
Devadwal said:
Babar Azam - 818 rating.

Shubman Gill - 816 rating.

The difference is just 1 point for the number 1 ranking in ODIs
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He has to find form. I don't mind him losing form after world cup. Before world cup he was expected to be the key for India. Rohit has done the weight lifting for all the guys with the support from Kohli/Rahul.
 
He has a good chance to become no. 1 next week as he is playing a relatively weaker SL while babar has to play Nz. Gill will play SA again on Sunday but a big 100 tomorrow will help him and India a lot as well as attain personal glory as well.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He has to find form. I don't mind him losing form after world cup. Before world cup he was expected to be the key for India. Rohit has done the weight lifting for all the guys with the support from Kohli/Rahul.
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Agreed. His form is crucial for knockout stage. Maybe today is the day where he can find the form Back. He need to play sensible at the start of inning becouse Rohit is other hand play attacking game , no pressure for run rate at all.
 
mominsaigol said:
All the rankings are crap. Based of current form the batting ranks of the tournament shpuld be

1) Quinton de kock (Best batter of the tournament currently)

2) Virat Kohli ( He has the highest avg per game despite not having the most runs. Despite a duck, his avg is still 88 and the highest minus kl rahul)

3) Makram (Best no 4)

4) David Warner (2nd best opener of the tournament so far)

5) Rohit sharma (Best right handed opener)

6) Ravindra

7) Klaseen

8) Daryl Mitchell

9) Devon Conway

10) KL Rahul

Honorable Mentions: Travis head(Only played one game, Glenn maxwell( good batting but 40 ball 100 came against minnow, but end of tournament he'll > Mitchell and Klaseen)

^^ the rank > is the definitive rank atm.
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The South African batsmen including De Kock have excelled while batting first. But fail to deliver even against Dutch while chasing. Markram was the only one who put up his hand against Pakistan. Until they chase a total aginst big teams its useless to rate any SA batsmen in this tournament. Kohli took his team home when IND was reeling at 2/3 vs AUS and then again took IND home (atleast almost) when he had bat with the last recognized batsmen in Jaddu against NZ.
 
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