So this is the same team our bowling attack conceded 342 runs?

[MRSN]

great performance from the Indian bowlers. They have really announced themselves big time here. not just talk and hype from their fans or ex players they are walking the talk as well.

It's their batting that is expected to be scary but they have owned NZ and BD with their bowling.

The worrying signs after watching BD bat against this Indian attack is performance of our bowlers against the same side. Our fast bowlers are supposed to be really faaaast and Indian fast bowlers are supposed to be trundlers yet we see Indian fast bowlers putting great show when it comes against quality sides.

So is Pakistan's bowling attack inferior to the Indians?

 

[Rayyman]

Think before you post pal.

Pak. v Ban. was played with really small boundaries compared to Ind. v. Ban.

 

[MRSN]

Think before you post pal.

Pak. v Ban. was played with really small boundaries compared to Ind. v. Ban.

boundary size is irrelevant when Indian pacers make BD batsmen dance with swing and bounce on the pitch.

 

[Rayyman]

boundary size is correlative when Indian pacers make BD batsmen dance with swing and bounce on the pitch.

Different pitch.

 

[troodon]

All Indian fans knew that Indian bowling is top class. Only Aus or SA can be compared with Indian attack. Noting surprising there.

Bangla did not expect Indian bowling to be this good. They did not get any respite from any bowler (may be Bumrah a bit who clearly showed nerves).

It was overcast and Indian bowlers swing and seamed the ball at pace. Not much Bangla could have done.

 

[Syed1]

Different conditions, different pitch.

 

[blue_champion]

Think before you post pal.

Pak. v Ban. was played with really small boundaries compared to Ind. v. Ban.

so what if it's a small boundary, is it stopping your bowlers from getting wickets through bowled,LBW or caught behind

 

[wasimjunior]

Different conditions, different pitch.

This was a road. 300 par track.

Indias seam attack is on new levels right now and could have us in serious trouble

 

[troodon]

This is just a practice match. Not a real one.

It is supposed to know your strengths and team combination.

Bangla got exposed on a slightly helpful pitch for pacers.

 

[MRSN]

Different pitch.

excuses. We were losing by a big margin if it wasn't for the heroics of a newbie.

 

[blue_champion]

Different conditions, different pitch.

Ok,let us say the pitch and conditions were so vastly different that a team that got 342 were bowled out for 84 but the opponent got 320+ on the same pitch? what do you say about that? is Indian batting that good

 

[Stark]

Think before you post pal.
Pak. v Ban. was played with really small boundaries compared to Ind. v. Ban.

Even though these are practice match going on, this is a chuckleworthy attempt.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Tamim - someone in great form - didn't play.

 

[Rayyman]

excuses. We were losing by a big margin if it wasn't for the heroics of a newbie.

Just take it easy. It was a warmup match. Not much to look into.

 

[MRSN]

Ok,let us say the pitch and conditions were so vastly different that a team that got 342 were bowled out for 84 but the opponent got 320+ on the same pitch? what do you say about that? is Indian batting that good

pitch can't be that good if Pandya can smack 80 in no time.

 

[Tusker]

Ok,let us say the pitch and conditions were so vastly different that a team that got 342 were bowled out for 84 but the opponent got 320+ on the same pitch? what do you say about that? is Indian batting that good

that too without any contributions from Kohli, Rohit, MSD, Yuvi who are the main batsmen.

 

[JaDed]

This is just a practice match. Not a real one.

It is supposed to know your strengths and team combination.

Bangla got exposed on a slightly helpful pitch for pacers.

This, everyone getting ahead of themselves but Bangla was defn exposed.

 

[Tusker]

Think before you post pal.

Pak. v Ban. was played with really small boundaries compared to Ind. v. Ban.

Did you watch the match ? BD players were not able to put bat on ball ... and all of them were caught by fielders within 30 yard circle.

 

[Coconut]

Tamim - someone in great form - didn't play.

As if it would've made any difference for Bangladesh. Bangladesh is nothing infront of India's world class bowling.

 

[idrizzy]

Indian bowlers have taken 20 wickets in both matches. However, conditions did help then in this match. Last match they bowled with discopline. We saw after 6 wickets - or in other words the shine of the ball - was taken off, it got easier to bat.

Still, it depends how these guys handle the pressure on 4th June.

 

[Gubol123]

Different conditions, different pitch.

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Yet we scored more than India against the same attack just two days ago

yet, it didn't stop you from taking a shot at Indian batting.

none of us should be reading too much into these practice matches unless it was too bad a performance. So BD has to rework on their combination and India shouldn't be reading too much into these results.

 

[Rayyman]

Did you watch the match ? BD players were not able to put bat on ball ... and all of them were caught by fielders within 30 yard circle.

Yea I did watch. Ball was seaming around at pace. Great conditions for bowling.

 

[Stewie]

Indian bowlers bowled well and banglas just don't seem to understand the concept of practice games.

 

[MRSN]

Tamim - someone in great form - didn't play.

our bowlers got smacked by Every BD batsman. Tamim didn't score 342 alone.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Different conditions, different pitch.

Yes different pitch but pak had a better weather condition to bowl at first up than the Indians bowling with the sun being out. They have hurried them with pace, bounce, swing and seam. All their pacers have bowled in good rhythm. No excuse that pak bowlers didn't bowl well. Boundary sizes doesn't matter if you beat the bat consistently which the Indians did

 

[Syed1]

Ok,let us say the pitch and conditions were so vastly different that a team that got 342 were bowled out for 84 but the opponent got 320+ on the same pitch? what do you say about that? is Indian batting that good

It's a different ball game when you are chasing, even a mild pitch becomes harder. Also BD were without the services of the guy who scored a century against us, Tamim Iqbal.

 

[JibranAnsari]

This is the same team which won a tournament few days ago

 

[Syed1]

Yes different pitch but pak had a better weather condition to bowl at first up than the Indians bowling with the sun being out. They have hurried them with pace, bounce, swing and seam. All their pacers have bowled in good rhythm. No excuse that pak bowlers didn't bowl well. Boundary sizes doesn't matter if you beat the bat consistently which the Indians did

Pakistan's best bowler wasn't playing. We were also bowling Wahab Riaz who wouldn't get a game.

 

[Rayyman]

Also, Ind didn't have phaast Wahab bowling for them. Who can't move the new ball an inch.

 

[Zak_Fan]

1) Indian attack is way superior, so it was expected.
2) Pakistan bowled on a ground with shorter boundaries, and flatter conditions. So the performance can be excused by their not so high current standards.

 

[aloo paratha]

Think before you post pal.

Pak. v Ban. was played with really small boundaries compared to Ind. v. Ban.

And conditions, cloudy weather aided bowlers.

 

[Coconut]

India has a world class bowling lineup.

 

[asifp]

England made 330 against South Africa, 4 days ago and yesterday was 37/7. Same team, same bowlers different outcome. Bad days can happen to anyone.

Saying that, I think India does have a fantastic bowling attack.
New Ball
Spin
Death bowling

they literally got it covered.

 

[joly]

Relax, Just a practice match

 

[ExpressPacer]

our bowlers got smacked by Every BD batsman. Tamim didn't score 342 alone.

Sure, but he set the tone which gave everyone confidence. Everyone else was struggling early on but as he got more comfortable, so did the rest.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Apples and oranges. Silly thread.

 

[kukkad kamaal]

India got 324: small boundaries
Bangladesh bundled out for 84: hugh boundaries , cloudy conditions
Okay

 

[ahmedzee]

so what if it's a small boundary, is it stopping your bowlers from getting wickets through bowled,LBW or caught behind

For goodness sake, it was a 40 m boundary. The square leg umpire was almost on the ropes.

 

[Tusker]

Yea I did watch. Ball was seaming around at pace. Great conditions for bowling.

So the boundary size had nothing to do with it right ? And ofcourse India probably batted on a different pitch to make 324

 

[ftbno1]

If this was a greentop then we have got second coming of viv richards in Pandya. He will score 10,000 runs in test with avg. of 60. If he can play such an innings on a greentop imagine havoc he will create on flat tracks.

 

[Rayyman]

So the boundary size had nothing to do with it right ? And ofcourse India probably batted on a different pitch to make 324

Absolutely ludicrous comment. I have no clue what you are saying in the first sentence.

As for your second statement, you are jumping to assumptions. I never said that India batted on a different pitch. They batted in the same one and did it well.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Pakistan's best bowler wasn't playing. We were also bowling Wahab Riaz who wouldn't get a game.

but still Amir will not the only 1 who will be the pacer in the line up.... hasan ali and junaid will most likely be in the 11 and these two also should equally bowl well.. Junaid khan was smashed for 22 runs by tamim in that match after taking the first wicket... Opponents can see amir off in the first PP and then amir himself becomes a poor bowler... Pak a country which had a rich history of pace bowlers not upto standard from the pace bowling department...

 

[aniket1911]

Since when does practice matches gives us clear picture?

Every team play with different strategy in real match. It should be looked to judge a form of a player / side but not conclusive enough to pass judgement.

 

[Syed1]

but still Amir will not the only 1 who will be the pacer in the line up.... hasan ali and junaid will most likely be in the 11 and these two also should equally bowl well.. Junaid khan was smashed for 22 runs by tamim in that match after taking the first wicket... Opponents can see amir off in the first PP and then amir himself becomes a poor bowler... Pak a country which had a rich history of pace bowlers not upto standard from the pace bowling department...

Junaid also happened to pick 4 wickets. If you remove that one bad over he has stats of 8 overs, 51 runs and 4 wickets. Which are excellent considering the total runs scored were 340 odd.

Hasan Ali had 2 wickets for 58 runs in his 10 overs. What more do you want????

Shadab Khan had 2 wickets for 55 runs in his 9 overs. Again very good performance.


Those are the only three main Pakistani bowlers that played. Apart from Imad who had a bad day. The rest won't play or bowl the amount of overs they did.

 

[Major]

If people think an inner circle being the boundary is relevent then oh god..
.

 

[captain crook]

Let's all calm down, shall we? I saw the match. Indians bowled well. Umesh and Bhuvanesh were breathing fire, alright. Never saw Indian pace bowlers bowling with so much intensity. However, this match severely exposed Bangla techniques. Practically no footwork. India won't find it this easy against better sides. As far as Pakistan game's considered, we played on a flat pitch with no movement and short boundaries.

All in all, we need to carefully strategize against India or similar fate awaits us. They have 4 solid fast bowlers who can move ball either way. Greta luxury to have.

 

[dani2k]

Gotta say...it is quite funny to see fans going overboard over practice matches. Does anyone remember how Pakistan fared in the 2009 T20 practice matches? They lost both theirs and India won both theirs leading to threads like "Just quit already...let us go and watch India play!".

We all know how that ended. By all means make your predictions and feel as you want to. But practice matches are just that..at the end of the tournament they count zilch.

 

[Snak3eye5]

People are forgetting that this just just a practice game and that both sides were just using different combinations and seeing which players are in form. Also PLease dont think for a second that India can do the same to Pakistan what India just did to Bangladesh. Its aples and oranges and hte pitch was different. Also Bangladesh did not play with their main players and India will not be using the same lineup either. Pakistan has the players to negate Indian bowling. Nothing to look here.. A plus here is that no one on the Indian side has player some of our newew players like Shadab, babar and thats going to be in our favor.

 

[Tusker]

Absolutely ludicrous comment. I have no clue what you are saying in the first sentence.

you were saying the boundary size were the reason for BD scoring 300+ in the 1st match and I proved you that the boundary size had nothing to do with the Total in todays game.

As for your second statement, you are jumping to assumptions. I never said that India batted on a different pitch. They batted in the same one and did it well.

Good ... so we all agree that Indian bowlers did far better than your bowlers to contain BD.

 

[IAJ]

Lols, why not just wait till the 4th and see, دودھ کا دودھ اور پانی کا پانی ھو جاے گا

 

[Coconut]

you were saying the boundary size were the reason for BD scoring 300+ in the 1st match and I proved you that the boundary size had nothing to do with the Total in todays game.



Good ... so we all agree that Indian bowlers did far better than your bowlers to contain BD.

There's no comparison between Pakistan's and india's current bowling attack. India has one of the best bowling attack in world right now whereas Pak currently holds the record of giving away the most number of runs in limited overs Cricket.

 

[Rayyman]

you were saying the boundary size were the reason for BD scoring 300+ in the 1st match and I proved you that the boundary size had nothing to do with the Total in todays game.



Good ... so we all agree that Indian bowlers did far better than your bowlers to contain BD.

Your comprehension skills are highly vacuous.
What are you trying to prove?
The boundary sizes had an effect on the scores in the first match, not the second one.

Again, you show off your dearth of intelligence.
The pitches were different in both matches. The first match had fine batting conditions, while the second was more suited for the bowlers.

Try to impart some meaningful knowledge when posting; Instead of attempting to boost your mile-high ego.

 

[cricketInsight]

Indian pace attack is being underestimated by everyone. They have the ability to be really good on their day.

 

[Tusker]

Your comprehension skills are highly vacuous.
What are you trying to prove?
The boundary sizes had an effect on the scores in the first match, not the second one.

That the boundary sizes argument is a lame excuse to defend Pak bowling.... especially when India (minus star batsmen) piled on 324 and on the exact same pitch bundled out BD for 84 in 24 overs without Jadeja's bowling and Ashwin getting only 1 over. India would have still won if we had allowed BD to bat one more time to get 240 in 26 heck even 30 overs.

Again, you show off your dearth of intelligence.
The pitches were different in both matches. The first match had fine batting conditions, while the second was more suited for the bowlers.

Try to impart some meaningful knowledge when posting; Instead of attempting to boost your mile-high ego.

Bluster and bile is a easy things to do on a anonymous forum.

 

[Hawkeye]

This was a road. 300 par track.

Indias seam attack is on new levels right now and could have us in serious trouble

Spot on.

We have Junaid leading our attack. Or.. Wahab.

 

[Syed1]

Spot on.

We have Junaid leading our attack. Or.. Wahab.

Amir and Hasan are on paid vacation????

 

[Tridibans_16]

People are forgetting that this just just a practice game and that both sides were just using different combinations and seeing which players are in form. Also PLease dont think for a second that India can do the same to Pakistan what India just did to Bangladesh. Its aples and oranges and hte pitch was different. Also Bangladesh did not play with their main players and India will not be using the same lineup either. Pakistan has the players to negate Indian bowling. Nothing to look here.. A plus here is that no one on the Indian side has player some of our newew players like Shadab, babar and thats going to be in our favor.

Thank you so much for coming back! I am feeling less worried about 4th now Lols.....

 

[Tusker]

There's no comparison between Pakistan's and india's current bowling attack. India has one of the best bowling attack in world right now whereas Pak currently holds the record of giving away the most number of runs in limited overs Cricket.

I wouldn't say best in the world ... but certainly a very decent bowling unit. Shami is still not 100% fit and spinners will not be as effective here in CT. The difference is Umesh. When he is not spraying the bowl he will be the difference.

 

[Ellipsism]

Your comprehension skills are highly vacuous.
What are you trying to prove?
The boundary sizes had an effect on the scores in the first match, not the second one.

Again, you show off your dearth of intelligence.
The pitches were different in both matches. The first match had fine batting conditions, while the second was more suited for the bowlers.

Try to impart some meaningful knowledge when posting; Instead of attempting to boost your mile-high ego.

Explains why India piled on the runs in the first innings.

 

[Rayyman]

Explains why India piled on the runs in the first innings.

They batted well. As I had said above.

 

[htariq25]

40 metre boundary...

 

[Lynx]

The myth that Pakistan have a strong bowling attack will well and truly be exposed in the CT. The reason Bangladesh feasted on our bowling attack and were all at sea against India's tells you the difference in quality of the two bowling line ups.

Amir hasn't done anything of note since his comeback yet people keep hyping him to the moon. He's lost whatever mojo he had. Same with Junaid, bowls gun barrel straight and will be spanked all around the ground. Less said about Wahab the better. Hassan Ali is the only pacer who deserves his place in our team and who I have high hopes from; doesn't have the pace of the other 3 but is canny with many variations up his sleeve, a real thinking bowler. Plus, we don't have any decent spinners to bail us out anymore. Shadab is still unproven in the ODI format.

Hence, it was no surprise Bangladesh scored against us. They still are a very good batting unit.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan's bowling at best will need to minimize the amount of runs they concede, Pakistan's batting has to be the one to win this and Pakistan need to chase.

 

[Hawkeye]

Amir and Hasan are on paid vacation????

Can't do anything alone, and on a flat track they'll be negated pretty much.

 

[ar2020]

These are PRACTICE matches...

 

[Sidilicious]

Thank you so much for coming back! I am feeling less worried about 4th now Lols.....

hehe.

The kind of confidence snakeyes gives, even an inform Kohli doesn't provide!

 

[Ellipsism]

They batted well. As I had said above.

Give up.

India's bowling attack is twice as strong as ours.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

It's simple.

Ind bowlers did bowl very well and bd batted rubbish.

Pak and bd bowling were rubbish and small boundary.

And all these are practice match. Wait to judge teams till the end of at least group stage.
/end of thread

 

[90MPH]

Gotta say...it is quite funny to see fans going overboard over practice matches. Does anyone remember how Pakistan fared in the 2009 T20 practice matches? They lost both theirs and India won both theirs leading to threads like "Just quit already...let us go and watch India play!".

We all know how that ended. By all means make your predictions and feel as you want to. But practice matches are just that..at the end of the tournament they count zilch.

Could not have said it better.

Pakistan lost all their practice matches prior to the 1992 World Cup. But no cares as they were about getting used to the conditions and in the end it paid dividend.

That said I think Sl, Bangladesh and Pakistan especially will struggle as they don't have the same calibre of players compared to India, England, SA, NZ and Australia.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

People are forgetting that this just just a practice game and that both sides were just using different combinations and seeing which players are in form.

Also PLease dont think for a second that India can do the same to Pakistan what India just did to Bangladesh. Its aples and oranges and hte pitch was different. Also Bangladesh did not play with their main players and India will not be using the same lineup either. Pakistan has the players to negate Indian bowling. Nothing to look here.. A plus here is that no one on the Indian side has player some of our newew players like Shadab, babar and thats going to be in our favor.

but pak will play batsmen who r not in form ,actually also who doesnt even belong to the format..

 

[Abdullah]

Relax. We will score 280 and defend it inshAllah.
If we bowl first amir will rip the game open for us.
In reality I only see a 25 over game being played maximum so we need to bowl first

 

[Shafi]

If Tamim and Mashrafee played India would not score 324 and Bangladesh will not bowled out by 84

 

[Shafi]

If you see clearly through history we had Imran, Wasim and Waqar along with Shoaib, Saqlain and how many World Cup we won. 1 by some miracles.

On the other hand, India never had quality fast bowlers like us baring Kapil but they won 3 World Cup, because their bowlers never rely on talent alone. They use their brain and work hard.

Give Sarfraz both Wasim, Waqar, Shoiab, Razzaq and Saqlain we will still not qualify for the final. Because we don't have strong mind to cope with pressure.

Players like Srinath, Prasad, Probakar performed better than 2W in the pressure situation

 

[idrizzy]

This thread is banta

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Indian bowlers always do wel in tourneys, they don't try to be heros, just try to be smart

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Facts: Bd scored 58,78 (odi) and 84(practice) under CAPTAIN SHAKIB.

 

[Buffet]

Too many conclusions based on practice matches.

 

[yasir]

If you see clearly through history we had Imran, Wasim and Waqar along with Shoaib, Saqlain and how many World Cup we won. 1 by some miracles.

On the other hand, India never had quality fast bowlers like us baring Kapil but they won 3 World Cup, because their bowlers never rely on talent alone. They use their brain and work hard.

Give Sarfraz both Wasim, Waqar, Shoiab, Razzaq and Saqlain we will still not qualify for the final. Because we don't have strong mind to cope with pressure.

Players like Srinath, Prasad, Probakar performed better than 2W in the pressure situation

When did India win the third World Cup?

 

[Titan24]

Lol! The guys is counting T20 world cup win for India but not for Pakistan.

 

[Titan24]

Guys who understand cricket will agree that in England when cloud covers come in, same pitch starts to behave differently. Same was the case with eng vs sa 3rd ODI and Ind vs Bnd warm up match. Thing to note here is that India has played both their practice matches in Oval which is more bowler friendy if cloud covers are present, its going to be a different experience playing in edgebaston on 4th of July considerinf the picth behaves pretty differently and Pakistan has already played one complet match there.