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Solution for Pakistani citizens' issues vs a solution for Kashmir issue - Which is more preferred?

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If there is an opportunity provided to Imran to completely solve one out of many Pakistani internal problems versus Kashmir issue which one people here will prefer?
 
I will always prefer to solve issues of Pakistani citizens first and foremost. We must put our fellow Pakistani brothers first before anyone and everyone else.
 
I am Kashmiri and see Kashmiris as Pakistani citizens so it’s all and one for me despite you trying to divide people.
 
Internal problems anyday for me, we can't provide a decent life to our own citizens so why should we bother about outsiders before them.

Pakistan comes first.
 
Internal problems anyday for me, we can't provide a decent life to our own citizens so why should we bother about outsiders before them.

Pakistan comes first.

See my post above yours. Secondly, Kashmiris will be desiring even more to become part of Pakistan as IK fixes things.
 
Both.

You're creating a false dichotomy. There's something called multitasking, the department working on the Kashmir issue isn't going to be doing the work of the other ministries.

I swear people create some of the dumbest scenarios.
 
I am Kashmiri and see Kashmiris as Pakistani citizens so it’s all and one for me despite you trying to divide people.

No offence.you considering yourself a Pakistani citizen doesn't matter.This is more about official Pakistani citizens and who voted for Imarn Khan or any other party.
 
I am Kashmiri and see Kashmiris as Pakistani citizens so it’s all and one for me despite you trying to divide people.

Kashmiris however see themselves as their own identity (I am talking about IOK not Azad Kashmir). They do not see themselves as Pakistani or Indian, but Kashmiris. Their first choice would be to have their own nation.

I think most Azad Kashmiris like yourself do see themselves as Pakistanis.
 
Both.

You're creating a false dichotomy. There's something called multitasking, the department working on the Kashmir issue isn't going to be doing the work of the other ministries.

I swear people create some of the dumbest scenarios.

No Government in world can achieve everything together.If you want to chose between these which is your preference?

Let us frame question differently if you want,Are you ok if both didn't work out if Imran spends effort on everything simultaneously?
 
No Government in world can achieve everything together.If you want to chose between these which is your preference?

Let us frame question differently if you want,Are you ok if both didn't work out if Imran spends effort on everything simultaneously?

My preference would be for IK to fix the internal issues first.

Pakistan can not challenge India at any forum with their own economy in shambles and political instability.

Fixing domestic issues as well as international image of Pakistan will give Pakistan a lot more credibility when facing India at the UN and other international forums in regards to Kashmir.

So your first choice is actually the first step to achieving the second choice.
 
No Government in world can achieve everything together.If you want to chose between these which is your preference?

Let us frame question differently if you want,Are you ok if both didn't work out if Imran spends effort on everything simultaneously?

Again this is so dumb. Khan will have people working under him assigned to different tasks. This isnt a "this or that" situation. The people working on resolving the Kashmir issue won't be the same working on the economy or education, they'd have different expertise and roles.

If you've ever held a job in a sizable organization thrn you wouldn't be creating such childish scenarios.
 
Because of Kashmir we have acrimonious relationship with India that causes us to spend a lot of resources on our army that also gives armed forces have an unhealthy level of interest in our politics for the same reason. Cleaning corruption from our politics is half the battle solving kashmir issue is the other half.
 
Again this is so dumb. Khan will have people working under him assigned to different tasks. This isnt a "this or that" situation. The people working on resolving the Kashmir issue won't be the same working on the economy or education, they'd have different expertise and roles.

If you've ever held a job in a sizable organization thrn you wouldn't be creating such childish scenarios.

Khan can have millions of people working under him but no way he can solve all issues.Actually no country able to solve all of their issues.Also its not like just because Khan is there India will just do whatever he wants :)
 
I think China could have been a big help for India if the relations between the two countries weren't so strained. Since Xinjiang style reeducation camps are somewhat acceptable to Pakistani awaam, India could deal with the separatists like that and it wouldn't cause so much outcry in Pakistan. Win-win for all.
 
Kashmiris however see themselves as their own identity (I am talking about IOK not Azad Kashmir). They do not see themselves as Pakistani or Indian, but Kashmiris. Their first choice would be to have their own nation.

I think most Azad Kashmiris like yourself do see themselves as Pakistanis.

You will be surprised my friend. When push comes to shove, they would join Pakistan.
 
We will solve both issues our way. Thanks for your concern. These two issue dont cross each other and wont cross ever. The reason for the economic woes of Pakistan is not Kashmir issue. It is the corruption .
 
Kashmiris however see themselves as their own identity (I am talking about IOK not Azad Kashmir). They do not see themselves as Pakistani or Indian, but Kashmiris. Their first choice would be to have their own nation.

Who told you that this is the general wish of Kashmiris?
 
This thread is clearly aimed at creating a divide between Pakistanis and Kashmir. Sad to see some naive Pakistanis falling into the trap. But this naivety is expected from a part of the population looking at how many votes PMLN got even this time around.
 
Again this is so dumb. Khan will have people working under him assigned to different tasks. This isnt a "this or that" situation. The people working on resolving the Kashmir issue won't be the same working on the economy or education, they'd have different expertise and roles.

If you've ever held a job in a sizable organization thrn you wouldn't be creating such childish scenarios.

Exactly this.

The government aren't going to be concentrating their entire efforts on, for example, healthcare. That is just a total waste of time and resources. There will be people who specialise in healthcare working on that, similarly there will be ministers, diplomats, etc who specialise on Kashmir affairs, and they will be looking after that.

The scenario being presented is stupid, it's like saying that all the chefs in a kitchen will be cutting one carrot at the same time, total waste of time, and probably makes things more difficult.
 
Looking past the divisive tone of the post I'd prioritize the Kashmir issue. Putting the Kashmir issue to rest will help take care of a lot of problems faced by Pakistan. Lasting peace between India and Pakistan can be achieved which will be to everyone's benefit.
 
Exactly this.

The government aren't going to be concentrating their entire efforts on, for example, healthcare. That is just a total waste of time and resources. There will be people who specialise in healthcare working on that, similarly there will be ministers, diplomats, etc who specialise on Kashmir affairs, and they will be looking after that.

The scenario being presented is stupid, it's like saying that all the chefs in a kitchen will be cutting one carrot at the same time, total waste of time, and probably makes things more difficult.

Question is not about trying.If there is an opportunity to fix a solution to one of Pakistani citizens issue or Kashmiri people issue which one you prefer?
 
Question is not about trying.If there is an opportunity to fix a solution to one of Pakistani citizens issue or Kashmiri people issue which one you prefer?

It is a very stupid and childish scenario, but obviously the Pakistani government first and foremost exists to serve the citizens of the realm it governs. How are we meant to do anything for Kashmir if Pakistan is a mess?
 
This thread is clearly aimed at creating a divide between Pakistanis and Kashmir. Sad to see some naive Pakistanis falling into the trap. But this naivety is expected from a part of the population looking at how many votes PMLN got even this time around.

Most will not though. Be rest assured bhai! 😊🇵🇰💚
 
Who told you that this is the general wish of Kashmiris?

Various polls conducted with in the last decade show majority of Kashmiris in IOK prefer independence. You could argue that polls coming out of such a heavily policed region could be biased by India. But if they were going to bias them so heavily why not just do what they do in their media and show how majority of Kashmiris "love" India lol.

Not saying I blame the Kashmiris for wanting to be independent, Pakistan is not as thriving as it was in the 60s comparing it to the rest of the region.

Obviously they dont want to be with India, so it leaves them with one choice really.
 
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