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Spoiler Alert 2.0: India will fail to win the upcoming Test series in England despite its young guns-dominated strong squad

What will be the outcome of the upcoming 5-Match Test series between England and India?


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Last year, the Indian team made a mockery of Bazball on their home soil but now the tables are going to turn soon as red ball home bully now faces another steep challenge to defeat their adversary in a series in SENA. For record, India have failed to win each of their last Test series in each of SENA nation. So will team India prove us wrong by changing this script or like before the spoiler will become reality.

With all top guns like Jasprit Bumrah, Arshdeep Singh, Mohammad Siraj, Kuldeep Yadav etc can India ace the England tour this once?
 
Haha...nice thread.

But wonder why my thread, where I put my neck out saying India will win this test series because -

A) England bowling attack is very weak

B) Indian team is gun with all deadwoods like Kohli, Rohit, Pu-Rane etc dropped

C) Team is filled with young performers and potential future stars

Got merged with main India tour of England thread.

:kp
 
What is my friend @sweep_shot 's prediction on this series? He single handedly won India last 2 ICC trophies with his reverse jinxes. Please come with some more predictions for this tour.

:ashwin
 
I am truly not aware of it...but plz correct if I get it wrong are you putting your neck on line for India's triumph in upcoming series.
Haha...nice thread.

But wonder why my thread, where I put my neck out saying India will win this test series because -

A) England bowling attack is very weak

B) Indian team is gun with all deadwoods like Kohli, Rohit, Pu-Rane etc dropped

C) Team is filled with young performers and potential future stars

Got merged with main India tour of England thread.

:kp
 
Looking forward to Bumrah vs Root.... although youngsters will cope much better with Bumrah but I would love to see Root showing some heart. Root has some mental issues. Evident from his performance in Australia.

If Root plays Bumrah on merit then Bumrah would be doomed big time.
 
Don't underestimate brother Sweepshot, he was the first one to rightly predict the BGT series outcome...if you remember
What is my friend @sweep_shot 's prediction on this series? He single handedly won India last 2 ICC trophies with his reverse jinxes. Please come with some more predictions for this tour.

:ashwin
 
Looking forward to Bumrah vs Root.... although youngsters will cope much better with Bumrah but I would love to see Root showing some heart. Root has some mental issues. Evident from his performance in Australia.

If Root plays Bumrah on merit then Bumrah would be doomed big time.
I agree. If Bumrah gets Root, it only means Root wasn't playing on merit and wasn't concentrating.

Also , if Shoaib Bashir gets smashed by Indian batsmen , it's because he didn't take his job seriously
 
I agree. If Bumrah gets Root, it only means Root wasn't playing on merit and wasn't concentrating.

Also , if Shoaib Bashir gets smashed by Indian batsmen , it's because he didn't take his job seriously
Or England is not taking this series seriously :kp
 
Don't underestimate brother Sweepshot, he was the first one to rightly predict the BGT series outcome...if you remember

Last 2 Test series for India:

0-3 against NZ
1-3 against Australia

I think India is likely to struggle in Test format moving forward. It is because many of their main players are retired/retiring/declining.

New guys don't seem that great in Test; they are more suitable for T20.

:inti
 
He always says india will lost.u can't deal with a broken clock as its also correct twice.in t20 wc and ct, he said for 15 times india will loose.
Ok sure, thankfully not much time left this once... another exciting series...besides some battles on PP too. 👍
 
Last 2 Test series for India:

0-3 against NZ
1-3 against Australia

I think India is likely to struggle in Test format moving forward. It is because many of their main players are retired/retiring/declining. New guys don't seem great in Test (mostly good for T20).

:inti
I think there players are still not better equipped to adapt in overseas conditions and against first tier teams.
 
I think there players are still not better equipped to adapt in overseas conditions and against first tier teams.

Correct.

They no longer have solid Test batters like Pujara. The new guys don't seem as capable in Test format as previous generation. This is the T20 generation I guess.

India haven't won any Test series in England after 2007. They had a golden chance last time but they blew it. I expect England to win 4-1 this time. :dav
 
OP has given trailer. Now don't start questioning the movie if Indian wins one Test like you did during BGT.

Don't be timid like your PAK players and show some jazva and daler :rabada2
OK bide your time, have you forgotten how you lot disappeared last time...Good luck this time 👍
 
OP has given trailer. Now don't start questioning the movie if Indian wins one Test like you did during BGT.

Don't be timid like your PAK players and show some jazva and daler :rabada2
We should not compare indian Team to Pakistan anymore. Pakistan is Minnows team in all formats Where we are at top . No comparison at all

:kp
 
BGT is no where close to ashes.

Ashes has historical value.

Bang on, mate. Ashes is unrivalled for us Australians in terms of history, rivalry and prestige. We like to win everything but Ashes is just a little more special.
 
BGT is no where close to ashes.

Ashes has historical value. Logically india and England should have some sort of trophy to signal the England oppression vs India's freedom.

The reason india shoved their into it was because they wanted to be seen and heard and attention seek.

Kinda like how you operate on this forumn.

Agree.

BGT is a relatively new series in terms of importance. Indians tend to overrate it. :inti

Ashes Series goes back to 19th century. More prestigious.
 
I am in a dilemma because I hate Stokes and his Bazball rubbish and want to see him lose but at the same time, I also hate India, so I don’t know what to hope for.
 
Is that why ground attendance and all sorts of other records were being broken during the last BGT just 6 months ago ? Perhaps you have a conspiracy theory to cover for that ? Evil invading Martians maybe ? Have some shame and acknowledge that there is nothing like BGT in practically every aspect cricket and otherwise.​

It generally broke records for Australia-India series, not overall records.
 
I am in a dilemma because I hate Stokes and his Bazball rubbish and want to see him lose but at the same time, I also hate India, so I don’t know what to hope for.

Come on. You know you hate India more than you can ever hate Stokes.
 
If Bumrah stays fit enough to chuck through the tests, then India has a good chance.
 
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Wow no need for spoiler threads. This is not even a spoiler. India is going to lose. This is coming from an Indian fan. This is going to be a tough series for the team and for the fans. I will be happy if this team can win one Test. The batting is inexperienced and Pant has been in terrible form, so this is going to be a struggle.
 
nope ... overall records were broken like highest match attendance across 5 days of a testmatch at Australia's premier ground: MCG.


Yes, for a single test. Despite that it still couldn't come close to breaking the record for a test series in Australia (it didn't even make the top 3). That's before we even get on to the frankly embarrassing attendances for the return series in India.
 
Yes, for a single test. Despite that it still couldn't come close to breaking the record for a test series in Australia (it didn't even make the top 3). That's before we even get on to the frankly embarrassing attendances for the return series in India.

Thats just one of the records .... the test also broke the highest 5th day attendance at MCG with 74K people attending. The question is if Ashes is such a clear winner why are BGT tests even featuring in the top 10 list of any attendance records of any ground in Aus ( let alone the top one for MCG and Perth ) ?


 

Thats just one of the records .... the test also broke the highest 5th day attendance at MCG with 74K people attending. The question is if Ashes is such a clear winner why are BGT tests even featuring in the top 10 list of any attendance records of any ground in Aus ( let alone the top one for MCG and Perth ) ?



The highest attendance for a test in Perth is still an Ashes test, and that'll be comfortably beaten by another Ashes test when the first at the new stadium is played there later this year.
 
The highest attendance for a test in Perth is still an Ashes test, and that'll be comfortably beaten by another Ashes test when the first at the new stadium is played there later this year.


Thats because the test lasted only 3.5 days and Aus did not play well. If it was a close contest and the game had lasted the full 5 days it would most certainly have broken the Perth record .... in any case it still broke the D1 attendance record at Perth.

As I said any non-ashes tests should not even be anywhere close to breaking any kind of attendance records hence why BGT is a Marque series on par with Ashes.
 
Thats because the test lasted only 3.5 days and Aus did not play well. If it was a close contest and the game had lasted the full 5 days it would most certainly have broken the Perth record .... in any case it still broke the D1 attendance record at Perth.

As I said any non-ashes tests should not even be anywhere close to breaking any kind of attendance records hence why BGT is a Marque series on par with Ashes.
If Indians can break the mcg test match attendance why can't they do it for Perth,which is a much smaller one
 
Agree.

BGT is a relatively new series in terms of importance. Indians tend to overrate it. :inti

Ashes Series goes back to 19th century. More prestigious.
Indians overrate everything due to their need for approval.
 
JioHotstar bags the Digital rights of India vs England Test series . that is great news because Hotstar is so smooth to use compared to Sony LIV.

Sony sports network has TV right for This series.

:kp
 
Thats because the test lasted only 3.5 days and Aus did not play well. If it was a close contest and the game had lasted the full 5 days it would most certainly have broken the Perth record .... in any case it still broke the D1 attendance record at Perth.

As I said any non-ashes tests should not even be anywhere close to breaking any kind of attendance records hence why BGT is a Marque series on par with Ashes.

Another record that'll be demolished when England actually play a test at the new stadium.
 
Finally some good Test cricket on the horizon. Can't wait to see Bumrah up against Root. I just hope he remains injury free throughout the series. And finally, I hope rain doesn't play too much of a spoilsport. Expecting absolutely no rain in England at this time would be like expecting it to snow in the middle of a desert.​
 
JioHotstar bags the Digital rights of India vs England Test series . that is great news because Hotstar is so smooth to use compared to Sony LIV.

Sony sports network has TV right for This series.

:kp
A big coup by Hotstar. They have now got Indian + IPL + SA + OZ + ENG cricket digital rights for Indian audiences.

SonyLiv reduced to SL and NZ cricket digital rights only.
 
The Indian team looks quite underwhelming at the moment. Honestly, I’m not even sure they’ll be competitive enough to win a single Test against England. :unsure:
But an underwhelming looking team beat Aus in Aus once upon a time... so who knows...
 
Indians overrate everything due to their need for approval.
That is because in a white man's world, we the brown boys need to fight extra hard for our rights and nothing is given on a golden spoon. Not only we need to fight for our rights against white boys but also against jealous brown neighbour's who wish to have the success India has. There is no doubt that India has given much better fight or even got better of Australian test side in last 2 decades or so compared to what England has served at them. The rivalry of Border-Gavaskar trophy is purely build on skills and competition on field unlike Ashes which is grossly one sided but somehow glorified because someone did something in 1882 or unlike India v Pakistan which is a political rivalry but on the field there is no competition. Any lover of the sport will choose competition in a sporting field than some silly legacy.
 
I am in a dilemma because I hate Stokes and his Bazball rubbish and want to see him lose but at the same time, I also hate India, so I don’t know what to hope for.
lol let them destroy each other and miss the WTC final then
 
That is because in a white man's world, we the brown boys need to fight extra hard for our rights and nothing is given on a golden spoon. Not only we need to fight for our rights against white boys but also against jealous brown neighbour's who wish to have the success India has. There is no doubt that India has given much better fight or even got better of Australian test side in last 2 decades or so compared to what England has served at them. The rivalry of Border-Gavaskar trophy is purely build on skills and competition on field unlike Ashes which is grossly one sided but somehow glorified because someone did something in 1882 or unlike India v Pakistan which is a political rivalry but on the field there is no competition. Any lover of the sport will choose competition in a sporting field than some silly legacy.

The Australian-English rivalry is across multiple sports. We hate losing to them in any sport, let alone, cricket.

Also, BGT will never ever reach the level where senior citizens throw punches at each other in the parking lot like Chappell and Botham did. It just means so much more to both sides.
 
@mominsaigol rightly predicted this long ago, Bumrah not available for all Tests against England
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Jasprit Bumrah Delivers Bad News To BCCI Ahead Of England Tests Squad Selection: 'Body Can't...' - Report

Star India pacer Jasprit Bumrah is unlikely to be available for the entirety of the upcoming England tour, according to a report. India will play a five-match Test series against England, starting June 20, and the BCCI is likely to announce the squad on Saturday, May 24. Following the retirements of stalwarts Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, majority of players who were part of the Australia tour are set to retain their spots. However, a couple of new faces will be travelling to England as part of the senior squad.

According to a report in The Indian Express, Bumrah is unlikely to play all five matches as he has informed the BCCI that his body can't take the toll of more than 3 Test matches. "With Jasprit Bumrah already informing the board that his body can't take the toll of more than three Tests matches, the selection committee were known to be in a dilemma on whether to fly out with a similarly iffy bowler," the report said.

Source: NDTV
 
@mominsaigol rightly predicted this long ago, Bumrah not available for all Tests against England
=====
Jasprit Bumrah Delivers Bad News To BCCI Ahead Of England Tests Squad Selection: 'Body Can't...' - Report

Star India pacer Jasprit Bumrah is unlikely to be available for the entirety of the upcoming England tour, according to a report. India will play a five-match Test series against England, starting June 20, and the BCCI is likely to announce the squad on Saturday, May 24. Following the retirements of stalwarts Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, majority of players who were part of the Australia tour are set to retain their spots. However, a couple of new faces will be travelling to England as part of the senior squad.

According to a report in The Indian Express, Bumrah is unlikely to play all five matches as he has informed the BCCI that his body can't take the toll of more than 3 Test matches. "With Jasprit Bumrah already informing the board that his body can't take the toll of more than three Tests matches, the selection committee were known to be in a dilemma on whether to fly out with a similarly iffy bowler," the report said.

Source: NDTV
Haha oh Bhai , when the team announced , chief selector already told the reporter that Bumrah workload is important so he will play only 3 or 4 test maximum . What reports it's a open news

You posted old news before the team selections .lol 🤣🤣🤣

:kp
 
Haha oh Bhai , when the team announced , chief selector already told the reporter that Bumrah workload is important so he will play only 3 or 4 test maximum . What reports it's a open news

You posted old news before the team selections .lol 🤣🤣🤣

:kp
Im always correct, it seems you cant handle my recognition and status. Getting jealous 😄
 
@mominsaigol rightly predicted this long ago, Bumrah not available for all Tests against England
=====
Jasprit Bumrah Delivers Bad News To BCCI Ahead Of England Tests Squad Selection: 'Body Can't...' - Report

Star India pacer Jasprit Bumrah is unlikely to be available for the entirety of the upcoming England tour, according to a report. India will play a five-match Test series against England, starting June 20, and the BCCI is likely to announce the squad on Saturday, May 24. Following the retirements of stalwarts Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, majority of players who were part of the Australia tour are set to retain their spots. However, a couple of new faces will be travelling to England as part of the senior squad.

According to a report in The Indian Express, Bumrah is unlikely to play all five matches as he has informed the BCCI that his body can't take the toll of more than 3 Test matches. "With Jasprit Bumrah already informing the board that his body can't take the toll of more than three Tests matches, the selection committee were known to be in a dilemma on whether to fly out with a similarly iffy bowler," the report said.

Source: NDTV
Just built different.
 
Haha oh Bhai , when the team announced , chief selector already told the reporter that Bumrah workload is important so he will play only 3 or 4 test maximum . What reports it's a open news

You posted old news before the team selections .lol 🤣🤣🤣

:kp
Lol your comment reminded me of Sachin Tendulkar's Ferrari
 
We all know who does this here...and by the way good news for you Guys Atkinson is facing Hamstring injury.
He is just another trundler and need helpfull conditions . we don't care who will England play . They can bring anyone , we are ready :kp
 
probably will e 3-1 or 2-1 in favor of England. I wont be surprised if it ends up with 4-0 .. anything else will be a huge surprise and bonus for India. This WTC cycle is goner for India.
 
If Bumrah, Siraj and Arshdeep are the bowling attack along with Jaddu and Reddy, India has a strong chance of winning more than a Test. Batting looks inexperienced and many are playing a Test series for the first time in England. But they have the talent to pull off surprise wins.
 
England is fragile against good bowling. Bumrah can pick up 2-3 wickets in his opening spell each time.
 
If Bumrah, Siraj and Arshdeep are the bowling attack along with Jaddu and Reddy, India has a strong chance of winning more than a Test. Batting looks inexperienced and many are playing a Test series for the first time in England. But they have the talent to pull off surprise wins.
Reddy is not a Test level bowler, sooner we understand better for us and jadeja will be not much effective so basically we left with Only three bowling options which is not good at all .

We need four proper Pacers + Jadeja against bazball cricket .

Bumrah
Siraj
Parsidh krishna
Thakur / Arshdeep

This should be bowling attack for first Test :kp
 
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Hopes aren't high this time because of the obvious inexperience in batting department.

I will be happy if its 1-2 result and we manage a couple of draws.

1-3 is expected
1-4 would be a disaster
0-5 would mean we say goodbye Shubhan Gill as captain.

A tie would be a phenomenal result.

If we win, it might just be more impressive than our twin test series wins down under.
 
Bumrah is a generational talent and a match winner. He alone will win at least 1 test for Bharat.

If the rest of the team can pull up to win 2, it will be a great result for us.
 
@mominsaigol rightly predicted this long ago, Bumrah not available for all Tests against England
=====
Jasprit Bumrah Delivers Bad News To BCCI Ahead Of England Tests Squad Selection: 'Body Can't...' - Report

Star India pacer Jasprit Bumrah is unlikely to be available for the entirety of the upcoming England tour, according to a report. India will play a five-match Test series against England, starting June 20, and the BCCI is likely to announce the squad on Saturday, May 24. Following the retirements of stalwarts Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, majority of players who were part of the Australia tour are set to retain their spots. However, a couple of new faces will be travelling to England as part of the senior squad.

According to a report in The Indian Express, Bumrah is unlikely to play all five matches as he has informed the BCCI that his body can't take the toll of more than 3 Test matches. "With Jasprit Bumrah already informing the board that his body can't take the toll of more than three Tests matches, the selection committee were known to be in a dilemma on whether to fly out with a similarly iffy bowler," the report said.

Source: NDTV

Glad Bumrah camp is finally realizing he cannot keep doing it non stop.

he will have to pick and choose and only play premier test series like Australia, England, Bangladesh, NZ etc
 
Glad Bumrah camp is finally realizing he cannot keep doing it non stop.

he will have to pick and choose and only play premier test series like Australia, England, Bangladesh, NZ etc
Bumrah camp? Im not a part of bumrah camp. Im neutral and I actually like the indian team but their some irritating pests that I have to deal with on a daily basis which is why I say certain things I dont mean to them.

Anyway back to topic, any moron can tell that a guy who had a back injury which caused him to miss out for 2 entire years of playtime Including wtc final simply cause of indian mangament running him into the ground and then this followed by another back injury which forced him to skip out on CT due to overdoing it in BGT is clearly an injury prone canon

And hence cannot play a 5 match test series for obvious reasons.

5 match tests are gruelling for even the fittest bowlers like James Anderson, Starc, Brett Lee, Mcgrath etc etc who have gotten injured numerous times in the past.

Why would an injury prone Bumrah escape this fate?
 
Bumrah camp? Im not a part of bumrah camp. Im neutral and I actually like the indian team but their some irritating pests that I have to deal with on a daily basis which is why I say certain things I dont mean to them.

Anyway back to topic, any moron can tell that a guy who had a back injury which caused him to miss out for 2 entire years of playtime Including wtc final simply cause of indian mangament running him into the ground and then this followed by another back injury which forced him to skip out on CT due to overdoing it in BGT is clearly an injury prone canon

And hence cannot play a 5 match test series for obvious reasons.

5 match tests are gruelling for even the fittest bowlers like James Anderson, Starc, Brett Lee, Mcgrath etc etc who have gotten injured numerous times in the past.

Why would an injury prone Bumrah escape this fate?

I meant Bumrah and his support team.
He can't play every series. He's an asset that must be deployed in the biggest matches. I don't understand why BCCI doesn't create a special A+++ contract enabling him 4X the remuneration of a regular A category player given what he brings to the table is 4X value of any other player in the team. He's worth his wait in Emarald's for BCCI.
 
I meant Bumrah and his support team.
He can't play every series. He's an asset that must be deployed in the biggest matches. I don't understand why BCCI doesn't create a special A+++ contract enabling him 4X the remuneration of a regular A category player given what he brings to the table is 4X value of any other player in the team. He's worth his wait in Emarald's for BCCI.
He's a player, not the son of Bill Gates.

The problem with india is that out of the big 5 (India + Sena) it is the least talented country when it comes to bowling talent.

In terms of batting talent it is by far the best or 2nd best debatable with Australia since its inception but in terms of bowling talent it is by far the worst.

Bumrah is a massive outlier for india, a bowler whos essentially in the realm of Mcgrath, Marshall, and many others. But by this logic mcgrath and Marshall and many others should have been given a similar treatment.

Let's not turn him into heel brock lesnar who renamed Raw into Monday Night raw Staring brock lesnar, started riding in private jets and got full rights to override everyone's orders including Vince Mcmahon
 
Reddy is not a test level bowler, sooner we understand better for us and jadeja will be not much effective so basically we left with Only three bowling options which is not good at all .

We need four proper Pacers + Jadeja against bazball cricket .

Bumrah
Siraj
Parsidh krishna
Thakur / Arshdeep

This should be bowling attack for first Test :kp
Prasidh is useless. He does not swing the ball. He will be a flop in England. Arshdeep is a must.

Bumrah
Arshdeep
Siraj
Jaddu
Reddy/Shardul
 
Bumrah camp? Im not a part of bumrah camp. Im neutral and I actually like the indian team but their some irritating pests that I have to deal with on a daily basis which is why I say certain things I dont mean to them.

Anyway back to topic, any moron can tell that a guy who had a back injury which caused him to miss out for 2 entire years of playtime Including wtc final simply cause of indian mangament running him into the ground and then this followed by another back injury which forced him to skip out on CT due to overdoing it in BGT is clearly an injury prone canon

And hence cannot play a 5 match test series for obvious reasons.

5 match tests are gruelling for even the fittest bowlers like James Anderson, Starc, Brett Lee, Mcgrath etc etc who have gotten injured numerous times in the past.

Why would an injury prone Bumrah escape this fate?
Like wise mate...you defo ai'nt neutral plus you don't happen to throw though provoking explosions of great insights or come up smelling of roses each time you post here...coming back to the topic - strongly detect wish ful thinking on your part viv-a vis JazzBoom's injury- and your're trying to pass off as some soothsayer who saw the future or an expert of injuries- both of which your are not - so come off the high horse , will ya?
As an indian fan i'd say we'll struggle to take 20 wkts each time we go out, Arshdeep is a pop gun 125kmh railoo katta who is at is best in helpful conditions in T20's where batsmen have no choice but to attack him, But - in tests , where batsmen have all the time - he's toast halwa on ice...much like the animal harvest roadkill on the Delhi-Noida - Yamuna expressway - totally useless.
Shardul is a better bet than Arshdeep more so when you throw in his batting ability but i feel indian selectors have beentoo conservative to select the T&TFs like him and gone back to the past, siraj's best days are probably behind him, Prasidh does not look to give the control that Ishant once gave the indian team.
Selectors have not selected any youngster for the future -when it comes to the bowling department - pathetic!
Much to the delight of the 'locals' here, i feel if we come out of this series any better than 0-3, we've done pretty well. Can't see us making the WTC finals this cycle, and if we do not invest right - starting now...sorry to sound pessimistic to my fellow indian fans - we will be struggling in red ball cricket.
 
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