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Sri Lanka are knocked out of the Asia Cup after a 91-run loss against Afghanistan

RRR at 7 with no one to come after and 100+ runs still needed. Easy win for Afghans
 
Before next WC, Hathura's biggest challenge is to bring focus among his players. These Lankan players look disengaged, not focus and not proud to play for their country, just going through motion. 2 Run-outs from mix-up in a run chase in eliminator is not casual, a crime.

I don't think skill set of Lankan players are that poor - still they have some good batsmen, decent bowlers and a good, athletic fielding unit; but I don't see them interested in their game. Anjelo being a wonderful individual failed to motivate his players and first change I'll make is to replace him by Tisera or Chandi.

One of Hathura's key tactics that worked for BD team is that, he could bring synergy in the team - 2+2 made 5 for him. Here, SRL looks more divided, individualistic and missing at the finer elements of the game. They are taking brilliant catches, but drooping dollies at key moment. I won't be surprised if Hathura leaves before his contract unceremoniously. SRL should have stuck to a foreign coach, preferably an Aussie.
 
MMHS said:
Before next WC, Hathura's biggest challenge is to bring focus among his players. These Lankan players look disengaged, not focus and not proud to play for their country, just going through motion. 2 Run-outs from mix-up in a run chase in eliminator is not casual, a crime.

I don't think skill set of Lankan players are that poor - still they have some good batsmen, decent bowlers and a good, athletic fielding unit; but I don't see them interested in their game. Anjelo being a wonderful individual failed to motivate his players and first change I'll make is to replace him by Tisera or Chandi.

One of Hathura's key tactics that worked for BD team is that, he could bring synergy in the team - 2+2 made 5 for him. Here, SRL looks more divided, individualistic and missing at the finer elements of the game. They are taking brilliant catches, but drooping dollies at key moment. I won't be surprised if Hathura leaves before his contract unceremoniously. SRL should have stuck to a foreign coach, preferably an Aussie.
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Its simple, if most of the world played cricket all subcontinent teams ranking would be just like football and many other sports.
 
Almost certainly tournament over for SRL - Anjelo should be sacked only for this shot.
 
MMHS said:
Before next WC, Hathura's biggest challenge is to bring focus among his players. These Lankan players look disengaged, not focus and not proud to play for their country, just going through motion. 2 Run-outs from mix-up in a run chase in eliminator is not casual, a crime.

I don't think skill set of Lankan players are that poor - still they have some good batsmen, decent bowlers and a good, athletic fielding unit; but I don't see them interested in their game. Anjelo being a wonderful individual failed to motivate his players and first change I'll make is to replace him by Tisera or Chandi.

One of Hathura's key tactics that worked for BD team is that, he could bring synergy in the team - 2+2 made 5 for him. Here, SRL looks more divided, individualistic and missing at the finer elements of the game. They are taking brilliant catches, but drooping dollies at key moment. I won't be surprised if Hathura leaves before his contract unceremoniously. SRL should have stuck to a foreign coach, preferably an Aussie.
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Why Lanka playing so many all rounders ? Do you not think they should get some specialist batsmen ?
 
BDfanforever said:
Its simple, if most of the world played cricket all subcontinent teams ranking would be just like football and many other sports.
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That's probably not the reason for SRL's current situation. They are going down from former World Cup finalist to minnow level within a decade, in a cricket family of 10-12 teams, and in most countries, it's not even top sports.
 
That’s it another humiliating defeat . Horrible tournament for srilanka worst in their history.
 
MMHS said:
Before next WC, Hathura's biggest challenge is to bring focus among his players. These Lankan players look disengaged, not focus and not proud to play for their country, just going through motion. 2 Run-outs from mix-up in a run chase in eliminator is not casual, a crime.

I don't think skill set of Lankan players are that poor - still they have some good batsmen, decent bowlers and a good, athletic fielding unit; but I don't see them interested in their game. Anjelo being a wonderful individual failed to motivate his players and first change I'll make is to replace him by Tisera or Chandi.

One of Hathura's key tactics that worked for BD team is that, he could bring synergy in the team - 2+2 made 5 for him. Here, SRL looks more divided, individualistic and missing at the finer elements of the game. They are taking brilliant catches, but drooping dollies at key moment. I won't be surprised if Hathura leaves before his contract unceremoniously. SRL should have stuck to a foreign coach, preferably an Aussie.
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Angelo is holding the team back. They should have got rid of him after the CT and looked for a new young fresh team to take them to the WC. Now Angelo will go nowhere and ruin them not only in the next big ICC WC but the potential of the young esters. The old senior mentality is once again holding back an Asian team.
 
the_outsider said:
It was the same case against BD.

SL batsmen were playing T20 and gift-wrapping wickets to the opposition.
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No Bangladesh bowlers bowled accurately,wicket to wicket. Most of the Lankan wickets being LBW and bowled in that match tells you in favor of it.
 
Sri Lanka have a real problem playing ODI cricket in the UAE

Its funny how I still expect them to turn up and do well in the World cup.
 
Imagine Pakistan losing like this to Afgahns. There would be emergency declared in pakistan
 
So Pakistan will be playing Afghanistan , BD and India sounds delicious
 
Mainul said:
No Bangladesh bowlers bowled accurately,wicket to wicket. Most of the Lankan wickets being LBW and bowled in that match tells you in favor of it.
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BD bowled well. But not so well that the opposition should fold for 124. There was some terrible shots played. Tharanga hoicking across the line. Two runouts. It was good cricket from BD but it was also poor cricket from SL.
 
Asif321 said:
Imagine Pakistan losing like this to Afgahns. There would be emergency declared in pakistan
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That was hilarious and very true :)))



Emergency declared, martial law imposed, PCB disbanded, cricket team behind bars
 
Asif321 said:
Imagine Pakistan losing like this to Afgahns. There would be emergency declared in pakistan
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its not like Pakistan hasn't lost to minnows before. Most teams go through this.

SL need to start a proper rebuild, focus on youth, and make fitness a core part of culture. They need a hard-nosed coach like Mickey to instill discipline
 
I’m waiting for the “Afghanistan will win the Asia Cup” thread...
 
Russell Bechare trying hard to praise Afghanistan. Feel bad for him. His team is going home. He is passionate fan like Athar. Actually slightly better then Athar. One can hear Athar crying on the mic when BD is losing.
 
the_outsider said:
In LOIs.

They are still doing very well in Tests. Will be interesting to see if they can continue like that once Herath retires.
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How many overs did you watch eng vs ind 5 test 20 days on average and approximately 1800 overs. I would like an answe to all of you purists.
 
Justcrazy said:
Why Lanka playing so many all rounders ? Do you not think they should get some specialist batsmen ?
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I think, it's a selection blunder - they are thinking ODI & T20 in same line, but actually ODI is much closer to Test than T20. If Akila was playing on Saturday, it would have been really difficult for us to recover from effectively 3 down in 7 balls, to a 137 runs win. They played Dilruhan for his batting over Akila, which is madness.

All-rounders work when you are batting first or chasing on a belter with smallish boundary - everyone contributing something and you post a decentish total to defend or chase a big target on favorable condition. But, in 250-275 per condition, key is partnership and striking wickets in middle overs, which can't be done with bits & pieces bowlers - need specialist for both batting & bowling.

I think, recent trends of batting friendly ODI is the main reason for them to adopt that strategy - they are considering that with their bowling, they can't take 7-8 wickets effectively to restrict a side to a chaseable target; rather they are trying damage control while bowling and chase the target keeping high RR all-through, using batting depth. Similarly, batting first they start blasting from ball one, try to post a sizable total and then defend with score board pressure with "all-rounders". It can work in T20s as number of balls are few there, you don't need resource management (10 wickets) for 20 overs, but won't in ODI, where you need to maximize your top 5 wickets for 50 overs - partnership (& partnership breaker with ball) is key.
 
MMHS said:
That's probably not the reason for SRL's current situation. They are going down from former World Cup finalist to minnow level within a decade, in a cricket family of 10-12 teams, and in most countries, it's not even top sports.
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Yes SriLanka is down but at the same time you are discounting the rise of Bangladesh and Afghanistan who on slow wickets are a very dangerous sides because of their slow bowlers. People here have been saying Pakistan vs India will have 3 matches as both are sure to qualify for the finals. But to me though India and Pakistan are favorites I have been saying I won't be shocked if Afghanistan or Bangladesh get through to the finals.
 
Couch Cricketer said:
Yes SriLanka is down but at the same time you are discounting the rise of Bangladesh and Afghanistan who on slow wickets are a very dangerous sides because of their slow bowlers. People here have been saying Pakistan vs India will have 3 matches as both are sure to qualify for the finals. But to me though India and Pakistan are favorites I have been saying I won't be shocked if Afghanistan or Bangladesh get through to the finals.
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Did we improve? Really? :)
 
Afghans too good for Lankans.

Lankans haven't been the same team ever since Sanga and Jaya retired.

Afghanistan has it in them to beat big teams if their batsmen can put together a competitive score.
 
Really feeling sorry for Sanga - an ATG who grew up being top of world, then himself was part of it, now commenting in such demise.
 
Not sure why some are seeing this as a shock. When Afg won the toss and batted it was pretty much clear they would be strong fav.

Finish this quick Afg.
 
Really wanted Sri Lanka to win, good for Afghanistan , but gotta feel for sri lanka, but teams go through this hopefully they can re build a good team in the future they have really passionate fans
 
Couch Cricketer said:
Yes SriLanka is down but at the same time you are discounting the rise of Bangladesh and Afghanistan who on slow wickets are a very dangerous sides because of their slow bowlers. People here have been saying Pakistan vs India will have 3 matches as both are sure to qualify for the finals. But to me though India and Pakistan are favorites I have been saying I won't be shocked if Afghanistan or Bangladesh get through to the finals.
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I don't think many people deny that Bangladesh, and especially Afghanistan have improved a lot in the last 4 years. That much is evident to all.
 
Congrats to AFG (& BD) to make the cut, but I must say we are heading into an Asia Cup, where batting first (winning toss) is worth at least 50 runs handicap, if not 100. Teams batting first has the simplest task is to bat 50 overs and put whatever comes - even PAK had to sweat chasing 115 and it took like 25 overs, starting chase early (on a 35 overs old track). These wickets are really dying after 70-75 overs - must have to praise PCB selectors for their bold call of picking 6 pacers here.
 
seems like super 4 will be interesting now, will consists of India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan, all who share a rivalry with Pakistan, each game will be intense for sure, but result will be the same regardless of the opponent a Pakistan win inshAllah :)
 
nextover666666 said:
seems like super 4 will be interesting now, will consists of India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan, all who share a rivalry with Pakistan, each game will be intense for sure, but result will be the same regardless of the opponent a Pakistan win inshAllah :)
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haha well said brother i second you here :)
 
MMHS said:
Congrats to AFG (& BD) to make the cut, but I must say we are heading into an Asia Cup, where batting first (winning toss) is worth at least 50 runs handicap, if not 100. Teams batting first has the simplest task is to bat 50 overs and put whatever comes - even PAK had to sweat chasing 115 and it took like 25 overs, starting chase early (on a 35 overs old track). These wickets are really dying after 70-75 overs - must have to praise PCB selectors for their bold call of picking 6 pacers here.
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very interesting point.
 
MMHS said:
Congrats to AFG (& BD) to make the cut, but I must say we are heading into an Asia Cup, where batting first (winning toss) is worth at least 50 runs handicap, if not 100. Teams batting first has the simplest task is to bat 50 overs and put whatever comes - even PAK had to sweat chasing 115 and it took like 25 overs, starting chase early (on a 35 overs old track). These wickets are really dying after 70-75 overs - must have to praise PCB selectors for their bold call of picking 6 pacers here.
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I really shudder to think what will happen if we have to chase and Sharma gets out early. Dhoni will come in by 25th over mark and guide us to a respectable defeat.
 
Congrats to Afghanistan. Now BD can rest Mushi and Shakib(Both have injury issue) in the match against Afghanistan and I have a feeling that they will lose to them without these big guns. Though that would not be a bad thing considering the fact if Bd becomes group runner up then they wont play the very next match in next day in the super four of this Asia cup.
 
Imran Hasan said:
Congrats to Afghanistan. Now BD can rest Mushi and Shakib(Both have injury issue) in the match against Afghanistan and I have a feeling that they will lose to them without these big guns. Though that would not be a bad thing considering the fact if Bd becomes group runner up then they wont play the very next match in next day in the super four of this Asia cup.
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We would loose huge ranking points if we loose to Afg. The tournament should not be about winning it, it should be to maintain good rankings.
 
Asif321 said:
Imagine Pakistan losing like this to Afgahns. There would be emergency declared in pakistan
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:)) That's well put.

MMHS said:
Congrats to AFG (& BD) to make the cut, but I must say we are heading into an Asia Cup, where batting first (winning toss) is worth at least 50 runs handicap, if not 100. Teams batting first has the simplest task is to bat 50 overs and put whatever comes - even PAK had to sweat chasing 115 and it took like 25 overs, starting chase early (on a 35 overs old track). These wickets are really dying after 70-75 overs - must have to praise PCB selectors for their bold call of picking 6 pacers here.
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These UAE wickets make for poor spectacles as a viewer. It's hard to bat fluently, particularly during run chases, on surfaces where the pitch gets slower and slower as the match progresses.

This is one of the reasons why our ODI batting has lagged behind the top teams. On these surfaces even 250 is safe.
 
BDfanforever said:
We would loose huge ranking points if we loose to Afg. The tournament should not be about winning it, it should be to maintain good rankings.
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I did miss this point but I do not like the fixture where you have to play last group match and first super four match in successive days. We have narrowly missed the win this cup in the past but BD have to win a major tournament in any cost to get proper recognition.
 
battler said:
I really shudder to think what will happen if we have to chase and Sharma gets out early. Dhoni will come in by 25th over mark and guide us to a respectable defeat.
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No I don't think so. Dhoni still shines when the matches under 280 or under. It's only 300+ matches where he struggles to keep up nowadays.

This tournament looks like its going to be a 260-270 tournament. I'm betting on Dhoni to come good here.
 
the_outsider said:
That's very unfair. They were WC runner-ups and T20 champions in this very decade.
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Speaking of ODIs only. WC ended in 2011. They have been minnows for 7 years now. Didn't they get whitewashed by Zim at home or something? Got absolutely demolished in the Asia Cup
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Speaking of ODIs only. WC ended in 2011. They have been minnows for 7 years now. Didn't they get whitewashed by Zim at home or something? Got absolutely demolished in the Asia Cup
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Yeah they have been terrible for the last 3 years. But they were a good LOI side till 2015. Made it to the QF in the 2015 WC with 4 wins in 6 games. Sanga made 4 back-to-back centuries. It's harsh for you to write them off for this entire decade. They were a good team upto the first-half of it.
 
BDfanforever said:
We would loose huge ranking points if we loose to Afg. The tournament should not be about winning it, it should be to maintain good rankings.
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Disagree, chance of winning any silverware should be Bangladesh's priority.
 
Feel bad for Sri Lanka, hopefully they will make the right changes now and rejuvenate their team.
 
Congrats Afghans.

I have 4 afghani friends at work, one in particular is more cricket following, must be over thrilled to bits, not seen him for a week.
 
Slim said:
Feel bad for Sri Lanka, hopefully they will make the right changes now and rejuvenate their team.
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Sri lankan coach should be sacked and so should many of these players, would have asked for the same had Pakistan lost against such a team
 
the_outsider said:
Yeah they have been terrible for the last 3 years. But they were a good LOI side till 2015. Made it to the QF in the 2015 WC with 4 wins in 6 games. Sanga made 4 back-to-back centuries. It's harsh for you to write them off for this entire decade. They were a good team upto the first-half of it.
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Hmm. Ok I might have to filter them out after 2015 then. It's sad how much they depended to Sanga to be a good team.
 
next few years will be tough on Lanka. I don't see any outstanding player coming of lanka anytime soon...

On other hand Afg playing great cricket. This shows you have to promote cricket at grass root level to produce good players.
 
Never expected the exodus of Jaywardene and Sangakarra to hit the SL team this hard. Mathews has declined horribly especially after the retirement of those 2 players.
 
Why did Sri Lanka make Matthews captain when is a proven failure as skipper ? Also why is Tharanga playing ahead of Dickwella? Lankans have the talent but they aren't performing. Matthews should never captain Sri Lanka again.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Hmm. Ok I might have to filter them out after 2015 then. It's sad how much they depended to Sanga to be a good team.
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Their problem was they didn't groom the young guys when the likes of Sanga and Mahela weren't around. Now there is no one to guide a very inexperienced team. And they never got to learn from their seniors, which is a big part of the development of any cricket team.

Add to that all the corruption in SLC and a poor domestic system and the end result is this.

After Australia's dramatic fall in LOIs in the last 3 years I never thought I would see anything like that again. But SL's rate of downfall makes Australia's slide look like nothing.
 
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