Statistically the greatest ODI performances?

[Napa]

Statistically, the two contenders for the greatest performance in a game have to be:

Batting
Rohit Sharma: 264
Why? The second best score is only 237* (Guptill) and the third best 219 (Sehwag).

Bowling
Stuart Binny: 4.4 overs, 2 maidens, 4 runs, 6 wickets

Why? This is simply a staggering outlier. For bowlers with best ODI performance as listed by Cricinfo, the next best average is 1.71 runs/wkt (Afridi) while Binny is at 0.67 (considerably less than half of the second best). For runs per over, Binny at 0.85 is about 30% better than 2nd placed Gilmour at 1.16.

www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-pakistan-2017/engine/match/1077954.html

If I was to bet on an ODI record that will never ever be broken, it has to be Binny's. His performance simply defies belief when compared to the next best.

Rohit's record probably will never be broken, but Binny's will certainly never be broken.

 

[Citizen4]

records are meant to be broken, it will be stupid to say they will never get broken.

The modern game has become very aggressive and there's a good possibility that Rohit's record can be broken by several openers, Warner, De Kock, Guptil, Roy, Hales etc. all have the capability to do that once they get going on a real flat pitch. AB, Du Plessis and Buttler can do it too if they open.

Binny's record can also be broken on a bowling friendly pitch against a minnow, just like Binny got that record.

 

[Big Mac]

I'm surprised you missed the real answer, given that it is also held by another Indian.

Sunil Gavaskar faced 174 deliveries in his epic knock of 36* as he batted out the entire 60 overs against England in the 1975 World Cup.

No other top order batsman will carry his bat in a 50 over game and match his strike rate of 20.68, this record has stood for almost 42 years and I am sure it won't be bettered for as long as I live.

 

[Napa]

records are meant to be broken, it will be stupid to say they will never get broken.

The modern game has become very aggressive and there's a good possibility that Rohit's record can be broken by several openers, Warner, De Kock, Guptil, Roy, Hales etc. all have the capability to do that once they get going on a real flat pitch. AB, Du Plessis and Buttler can do it too if they open.

Binny's record can also be broken on a bowling friendly pitch against a minnow, just like Binny got that record.

Binny's record is from the list that contains all ODIs, not just against great teams but also teams that would be hammered by minnows like Kenya, Netherlands and Ireland. Simply Binny's record is so much better than the second best that it is stupidest to think it will ever be broken.

Correct link for Cricinfo's best ODI bowling performances is:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283204.html

 

[Citizen4]

Binny's record is from the list that contains all ODIs, not just against great teams but also teams that would be hammered by minnows like Kenya, Netherlands and Ireland. Simply Binny's record is so much better than the second best that it is stupidest to think it will ever be broken.

Correct link for Cricinfo's best ODI bowling performances is:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283204.html

if someone predicted that a mediocre cricketer like Binny would end up with bowling figures like that, people would have laughed at him and called him joker. Anything can happen in cricket, it's not something that cant be broken, there are much better bowlers in world cricket and on bowling friendly wickets againstminnows they can end up with better figures, it's foolish to think it will never get broken, every record can get broken just the way it was first made.

 

[Napa]

I'm surprised you missed the real answer, given that it is also held by another Indian.

Sunil Gavaskar faced 174 deliveries in his epic knock of 36* as he batted out the entire 60 overs against England in the 1975 World Cup.

No other top order batsman will carry his bat in a 50 over game and match his strike rate of 20.68, this record has stood for almost 42 years and I am sure it won't be bettered for as long as I live.

Nah, Gavaskar's efforts were nowhere as impressive Pakistani top order's 4 wkts for 1 run in another WCC game. A team effort should always get more respect than an individual's accomplishment.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/engine/current/match/656417.html

 

[Big Mac]

A team effort should always get more respect than an individual's accomplishment.

Says the guy who created a thread about individual accomplishments.

 

[Napa]

Says the guy who created a thread about individual accomplishments.

Everything in proper order, first a thread about individual accomplishments, to be followed by a thread about something greater, team accomplishments. Stay tuned.

Cute girl btw...

 

[zayn]

Probably one of the worst threads in the history of Pakpassion.

 

[Nostalgic]

Probably one of the worst threads in the history of Pakpassion.

Not statistically.

Not yet, anyhow.

 

[Monsee]

LOL, a silly thread created just to celebrate two of the most mind boggling and least significant performances...and commonality there is, drum roll, both from India!

/CloseThread!

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

i know its not statistically the best, but whenever there is a discussion that has the words 'best odi performance' there is only one thing i can think of


Im biased i know, but that was one of the greatest innings of all time.

Surely Pakistan's best along with Inzi 92

 

[Napa]

i know its not statistically the best, but whenever there is a discussion that has the words 'best odi performance' <b>there is only one thing i can think of</b>
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Im biased i know, but that was one of the greatest innings of all time.

Surely Pakistan's best along with Inzi 92

Sometimes a picture is not worth a thousand words, please do share the story behind the picture.

 

[Big Mac]

i know its not statistically the best, but whenever there is a discussion that has the words 'best odi performance' there is only one thing i can think of
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Im biased i know, but that was one of the greatest innings of all time.

Surely Pakistan's best along with Inzi 92

Yeah, that was amazing. I couldn't believe how well he was striking the ball that day, doubly so considering he forgot his bat in the changing room. Popeye is a legend

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Sometimes a picture is not worth a thousand words, please do share the story behind the picture.

it doesn't at all match the criteria for this thread, but I'm shameless in bringing it up. Just look at the scorecard lol

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/match/461567.html

 

[Napa]

it doesn't at all match the criteria for this thread, but I'm shameless in bringing it up. Just look at the scorecard lol

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/match/461567.html

Well played indeed by Razzaq indeed!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Statistically, the two contenders for the greatest performance in a game have to be:

Batting
Rohit Sharma: 264
Why? The second best score is only 237* (Guptill) and the third best 219 (Sehwag).

Bowling
Stuart Binny: 4.4 overs, 2 maidens, 4 runs, 6 wickets

Why? This is simply a staggering outlier. For bowlers with best ODI performance as listed by Cricinfo, the next best average is 1.71 runs/wkt (Afridi) while Binny is at 0.67 (considerably less than half of the second best). For runs per over, Binny at 0.85 is about 30% better than 2nd placed Gilmour at 1.16.

www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-pakistan-2017/engine/match/1077954.html

If I was to bet on an ODI record that will never ever be broken, it has to be Binny's. His performance simply defies belief when compared to the next best.

Rohit's record probably will never be broken, but Binny's will certainly never be broken.

You mean his numbers defy belief. Statistically the best but performance wise there have been many better.

Unless it's athletics stats are only 1 picture of a puzzle in sport.

 

[Napa]

You mean his numbers defy belief. Statistically the best but performance wise there have been many better.

Unless it's athletics stats are only 1 picture of a puzzle in sport.

It may be true that "performance wise there have been many better", after all performance also lies in the eyes of the beholder. That is why the subject of the thread also includes the word "statistically".

 

[KingKhanWC]

It may be true that "performance wise there have been many better", after all performance also lies in the eyes of the beholder. That is why the subject of the thread also includes the word "statistically".

I think you're getting confused with beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. Performance is best judged on conditions in play, the quality of the opposition, the pressure of the situation and possibly the condition of the sportsman(in some situations where an injured player performs).

What do you feel are the two batting and bowling performances of ODI cricket and how they compare with the statistically best performances?

 

[Major]

Simply Binny's record is so much better it is stupidest to think it will ever be broken.

Correct link for Cricinfo's best ODI bowling performances is:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283204.html

This has to be the worse thread ever created on pakpassion.

So in the thread title the op is inviting others to discussio , then in the op he explains us two records.

When another poster said that the bowling record is possible to be broken, the op goes on to say its the stupidest to think otherwise and this record could never be broken.

(Someone should pull out shadabs recent performance for this guy)

So what is the purlose of the thread? To boost about two mediocre indian cricketers who have this record with no argument being allowed to say otherwise?

This thread should be binned seriously

 

[coy0607]

I'm surprised you missed the real answer, given that it is also held by another Indian.

Sunil Gavaskar faced 174 deliveries in his epic knock of 36* as he batted out the entire 60 overs against England in the 1975 World Cup.

No other top order batsman will carry his bat in a 50 over game and match his strike rate of 20.68, this record has stood for almost 42 years and I am sure it won't be bettered for as long as I live.

Sharma's record will be broken- a guy like Warner or ABD just need to have a really good day to break it

Gavaskar's record will NEVER ever be broken

 

[Napa]

I think you're getting confused with <b>beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.</b>

I am quite aware of the original phrase, thank you. The deeper meaning of the phrase deals with the difference between the subjective and the objective.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Kevin O Brien though I am biased.

110 for 5 off 25 overs. Needed 210 off 25 overs. Pretty much an unfamiliar quantity in world cricket still and smashes the fastest ever WC hundred off 50 balls. Against your biggest rivals too. Epic

 

[Major]

Also i did the maths.

As you are talking about statistics here, its funny how you consider binnys 6 wickets to be better then afridi's 7 wickets.

But oh well you have used the criteria of runs per wickets analysis( which is flawed, but hey lets play your game)

So by the same analysis logic, I did this:

BEHOLD!

Courtney Walsh took 5 wickets for 1 run in this match,
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65839.html

You said binny had a better stat as 4/6 gave you = 0.67

Applied the same theory on Walsh's performance, 1/5 = 0.2





Conclusion, statistically and flawed logically, Walsh has a better performance. Binny never made this record in the first place.


and you are right, no one will ever be able to break this record just like that Gavaskar 36* of 174 balls one.


@big_mac this is where you come and post mind blowing fancy gifs to my reply.

oh i almost forget

For runs per over,

while Binny is somewhere in the 0.80ish....., Walsh should be at o.20ish......

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Also i did the maths.

As you are talking about statistics here, its funny how you consider binnys 6 wickets to be better then afridi's 7 wickets.

But oh well you have used the criteria of runs per wickets analysis( which is flawed, but hey lets play your game)

So by the same analysis logic, I did this:

BEHOLD!

Courtney Walsh took 5 wickets for 1 run in this match,
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65839.html

You said binny had a better stat as 4/6 gave you = 0.67

Applied the same theory on Walsh's performance, 1/5 = 0.2

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Conclusion, statistically and flawed logically, Walsh has a better performance. Binny never made this record in the first place.


and you are right, no one will ever be able to break this record just like that Gavaskar 36* of 174 balls one.


@big_mac this is where you come and post mind blowing fancy gifs to my reply.

oh i almost forget

For runs per over,

while Binny is somewhere in the 0.80ish....., Walsh should be at o.20ish......

This is the truth. Binny never created any record. Walsh did it first and still has it intact. OP needs to do more research

 

[Napa]

Also i did the maths.

As you are talking about statistics here, its funny how you consider binnys 6 wickets to be better then afridi's 7 wickets.

But oh well you have used the criteria of runs per wickets analysis( which is flawed, but hey lets play your game)

So by the same analysis logic, I did this:

BEHOLD!

Courtney Walsh took 5 wickets for 1 run in this match,
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65839.html

You said binny had a better stat as 4/6 gave you = 0.67

Applied the same theory on Walsh's performance, 1/5 = 0.2

View attachment 73913



Conclusion, statistically and flawed logically, Walsh has a better performance. Binny never made this record in the first place.


and you are right, no one will ever be able to break this record just like that Gavaskar 36* of 174 balls one.


@big_mac this is where you come and post mind blowing fancy gifs to my reply.

oh i almost forget

For runs per over,

while Binny is somewhere in the 0.80ish....., Walsh should be at o.20ish......

Walsh's performance is impressive, as is your knowledge of cricket stats. I admit I stand corrected, statistically and otherwise Walsh's performance is superior to Binny's

 

[Syed1]

Probably one of the worst threads in the history of Pakpassion.

Makes a thread about individual scores, says team achievements hold more importance LMAO

 

[ocfan]

Sachin's 100th century in Losing cause will never be broken in ODI history.

 

[MMHS]

Statistically, the two contenders for the greatest performance in a game have to be:

Batting
Rohit Sharma: 264
Why? The second best score is only 237* (Guptill) and the third best 219 (Sehwag).

Bowling
Stuart Binny: 4.4 overs, 2 maidens, 4 runs, 6 wickets

Why? This is simply a staggering outlier. For bowlers with best ODI performance as listed by Cricinfo, the next best average is 1.71 runs/wkt (Afridi) while Binny is at 0.67 (considerably less than half of the second best). For runs per over, Binny at 0.85 is about 30% better than 2nd placed Gilmour at 1.16.

www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-pakistan-2017/engine/match/1077954.html

If I was to bet on an ODI record that will never ever be broken, it has to be Binny's. His performance simply defies belief when compared to the next best.

Rohit's record probably will never be broken, but Binny's will certainly never be broken.

I think, Walsh had ODI figures of 5 for 1 - that's 0.20/wicket. While there are figures of 1/0, which means 0.00/wicket

Rohit's 264 is highest ODI score, therefore it doesn't need any other qualifier. Personally I believe Viv's 189* was almost unreal - 189 out of 272/9 & then England losing by 100 margin. I think, second highest in that match was in 30s. And, he added 112 in last 11 overs with Holding (Mike playing 6/7 balls in total)

Closely followed by Sanath's 189, out of around 290 & India all out for <60 in same match.

 

[SL_Fan]

One of em by the king himself

The highest tenth-wicket stand in one-day internationals involved a famous innings quite a while ago: at Old Trafford in 1984, West Indies were in trouble at 166 for 9 against England when Michael Holding walked out to join Viv Richards. But Viv seemed unconcerned, and blasted his way to 189 not out - the highest ODI score at the time - and put on 106 with Holding, who managed 12 not out. Said Wisden: "In 14 overs they added 106, Richards's share being 93.

 

[SL_Fan]

Greatest ODI a/r performance?

 

[Hawkeye]

No idea why everyone's bashing the OP.

Just pick any of the Fawad Alam knocks. Nothing better out there statistically.

 

[BD-fan]

I'm surprised you missed the real answer, given that it is also held by another Indian.

Sunil Gavaskar faced 174 deliveries in his epic knock of 36* as he batted out the entire 60 overs against England in the 1975 World Cup.

No other top order batsman will carry his bat in a 50 over game and match his strike rate of 20.68, this record has stood for almost 42 years and I am sure it won't be bettered for as long as I live.

Game, Set, and Match.

 

[MMHS]

Greatest ODI a/r performance?

Indeed a great match for Lala, but I think, the best ever ODI performance was this one

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64303.html

 

[The_Odd_One]

Can't beat these figures:

Chaminda Vaas: 8-19-8

Those 8 wickets came from top 9 batsmen.

 

[SL_Fan]

Indeed a great match for Lala, but I think, the best ever ODI performance was this one

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64303.html

Yeah another one from the king himself was going back and forth on that and the Afridi blitzkrieg. The 12/7 won me over