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Allrounders gives team great balance. A good allrounder should be able to be find a spot in team both as a batsman and bowler.
A perfect allrounder is a mix of ATG batsman + ATG bowler. So far in no one has been able to claim that spot. But some ATG A/R's have reached that for a span of 3-4 years.
I am using following table to categorized Batsman and Bowlers by average. Its not a perfect table because it doesn't take account of factors like longevity , quality of opposition etc.
[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Batman [/td][td]Avg 50+ [/td][td]Avg (40-50) [/td][td]Avg (30-40) [/td][td]Avg (25-30) [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Status [/td][td]Great [/td][td]Good [/td][td]Decent [/td][td]Average [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowler [/td][td]Under 25 [/td][td]Under 30 [/td][td]Under 35 [/td][td]Under 40 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Status [/td][td]Great [/td][td]Good [/td][td]Decent [/td][td]Average [/td][/tr]
[/table]
Based on above table AR can be categorized.
[table=width: 700, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]AR Status [/td][td]Bat 50+ [/td][td]Bat (40-50) [/td][td]Bat (35-40) [/td][td]Bat (30-35) [/td][td]Bat (25-30) [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl Under 25 [/td][td]Undefined [/td][td]Undefined [/td][td]GOAT Bowling AR [/td][td]ATG Bowling AR [/td][td]Great Bowling AR [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl (25-30) [/td][td]Undefined [/td][td]GOAT AR [/td][td]ATG AR [/td][td]Great AR [/td][td]Good Bowling AR [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl (30-35) [/td][td]GOAT Batting AR [/td][td]ATG Batting AR [/td][td]Great Batting AR [/td][td]Good AR [/td][td]Decent Bowling AR [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl (35-40) [/td][td]Good Batting AR [/td][td]Decent Batting AR [/td][td]Average Batting AR [/td][td]Average AR [/td][td]Bits and Pieces AR [/td][/tr]
[/table]
No AR over a full career has averaged above 40 with bat and under 25 with ball.
Some A/R's over a span of 3-4 years have done it though.
I selected some performances (min 1000 runs , 50 wickets)
50+ bat avg and Under 25 bowl average - Shaun Pollock (2001-03)
Gary Sobers nearly achieved the same (1961-63)
45+ bat avg and Under 20 bowl average - Imran Khan (1980-83)
Table for 6 great AR with career records and peak year performance.
[table=width: 750, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Name [/td][td] Record [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Bat Av [/td][td]100 [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Bowl Av [/td][td]5W [/td][td]Ave Diff [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gary Sobers [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1954-1974 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]8032 [/td][td]57.78 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]235 [/td][td]34.03 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]23.74 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gary Sobers [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1961-1963 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]1021 [/td][td]51.05 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]25.43 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]25.61 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Ian Botham [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1977-1992 [/td][td]102 [/td][td]5200 [/td][td]33.54 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]383 [/td][td]28.4 [/td][td]27 [/td][td]5.14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Ian Botham [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1978-1980 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]1480 [/td][td]36.09 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]143 [/td][td]20.2 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]15.88 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Imran Khan [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1971-1992 [/td][td]88 [/td][td]3807 [/td][td]37.69 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]362 [/td][td]22.81 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]14.88 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Imran Khan [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1980-1983 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]1176 [/td][td]45.23 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]134 [/td][td]16.35 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]28.88 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Jacques Kallis [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1995-2013 [/td][td]166 [/td][td]13289 [/td][td]55.37 [/td][td]45 [/td][td]292 [/td][td]32.65 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]22.71 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Jacques Kallis [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1999-2002 [/td][td]43 [/td][td]3436 [/td][td]62.47 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]105 [/td][td]27.7 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]34.76 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Keith Miller [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1946-1956 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]2958 [/td][td]36.97 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]170 [/td][td]22.97 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]13.99 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Keith Miller [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1949-1952 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1047 [/td][td]38.77 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]62 [/td][td]20.12 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]18.64 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Shaun Pollock [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1995-2008 [/td][td]108 [/td][td]3781 [/td][td]32.31 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]421 [/td][td]23.11 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]9.19 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Shaun Pollock [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]2001-2003 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]1256 [/td][td]54.6 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]115 [/td][td]21.85 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]32.75 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
A perfect allrounder is a mix of ATG batsman + ATG bowler. So far in no one has been able to claim that spot. But some ATG A/R's have reached that for a span of 3-4 years.
I am using following table to categorized Batsman and Bowlers by average. Its not a perfect table because it doesn't take account of factors like longevity , quality of opposition etc.
[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Batman [/td][td]Avg 50+ [/td][td]Avg (40-50) [/td][td]Avg (30-40) [/td][td]Avg (25-30) [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Status [/td][td]Great [/td][td]Good [/td][td]Decent [/td][td]Average [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowler [/td][td]Under 25 [/td][td]Under 30 [/td][td]Under 35 [/td][td]Under 40 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Status [/td][td]Great [/td][td]Good [/td][td]Decent [/td][td]Average [/td][/tr]
[/table]
Based on above table AR can be categorized.
[table=width: 700, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]AR Status [/td][td]Bat 50+ [/td][td]Bat (40-50) [/td][td]Bat (35-40) [/td][td]Bat (30-35) [/td][td]Bat (25-30) [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl Under 25 [/td][td]Undefined [/td][td]Undefined [/td][td]GOAT Bowling AR [/td][td]ATG Bowling AR [/td][td]Great Bowling AR [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl (25-30) [/td][td]Undefined [/td][td]GOAT AR [/td][td]ATG AR [/td][td]Great AR [/td][td]Good Bowling AR [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl (30-35) [/td][td]GOAT Batting AR [/td][td]ATG Batting AR [/td][td]Great Batting AR [/td][td]Good AR [/td][td]Decent Bowling AR [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bowl (35-40) [/td][td]Good Batting AR [/td][td]Decent Batting AR [/td][td]Average Batting AR [/td][td]Average AR [/td][td]Bits and Pieces AR [/td][/tr]
[/table]
No AR over a full career has averaged above 40 with bat and under 25 with ball.
Some A/R's over a span of 3-4 years have done it though.
I selected some performances (min 1000 runs , 50 wickets)
50+ bat avg and Under 25 bowl average - Shaun Pollock (2001-03)
Gary Sobers nearly achieved the same (1961-63)
45+ bat avg and Under 20 bowl average - Imran Khan (1980-83)
Table for 6 great AR with career records and peak year performance.
[table=width: 750, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Name [/td][td] Record [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Bat Av [/td][td]100 [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Bowl Av [/td][td]5W [/td][td]Ave Diff [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gary Sobers [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1954-1974 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]8032 [/td][td]57.78 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]235 [/td][td]34.03 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]23.74 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gary Sobers [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1961-1963 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]1021 [/td][td]51.05 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]25.43 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]25.61 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Ian Botham [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1977-1992 [/td][td]102 [/td][td]5200 [/td][td]33.54 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]383 [/td][td]28.4 [/td][td]27 [/td][td]5.14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Ian Botham [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1978-1980 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]1480 [/td][td]36.09 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]143 [/td][td]20.2 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]15.88 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Imran Khan [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1971-1992 [/td][td]88 [/td][td]3807 [/td][td]37.69 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]362 [/td][td]22.81 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]14.88 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Imran Khan [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1980-1983 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]1176 [/td][td]45.23 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]134 [/td][td]16.35 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]28.88 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Jacques Kallis [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1995-2013 [/td][td]166 [/td][td]13289 [/td][td]55.37 [/td][td]45 [/td][td]292 [/td][td]32.65 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]22.71 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Jacques Kallis [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1999-2002 [/td][td]43 [/td][td]3436 [/td][td]62.47 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]105 [/td][td]27.7 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]34.76 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Keith Miller [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1946-1956 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]2958 [/td][td]36.97 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]170 [/td][td]22.97 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]13.99 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Keith Miller [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]1949-1952 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1047 [/td][td]38.77 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]62 [/td][td]20.12 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]18.64 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Shaun Pollock [/td][td]Overall [/td][td]1995-2008 [/td][td]108 [/td][td]3781 [/td][td]32.31 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]421 [/td][td]23.11 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]9.19 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Shaun Pollock [/td][td]filtered [/td][td]2001-2003 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]1256 [/td][td]54.6 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]115 [/td][td]21.85 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]32.75 [/td][/tr]
[/table]