Stats Thread : India vs Pakistan (Lower-Order Batting contribution)

[jeetu]

Lately conversations related to lower order contribution was raised by many people. There is a growing perception that Pakistan's lower order has not contributing much lately with the bat while India's lower order is contributing a lot.

So i did some number crunching to see the real picture.

All time record for players ( batting position 8- 11) , min runs 500.

Player	Span	Mat	Runs	Ave	100	50
MS Dhoni (INDIA)	2005-2014	14	628	69.77	2	4
N Kapil Dev (INDIA)	1978-1993	61	1967	32.78	2	13
Kamran Akmal (PAK)	2002-2010	22	889	31.75	3	2
R Ashwin (INDIA)	2011-2016	34	1196	31.47	2	6
Saleem Yousuf (PAK)	1982-1990	21	538	29.88	0	2
RA Jadeja (INDIA)	2013-2016	15	508	28.22	0	2
Imran Khan (PAK)	1971-1988	29	839	27.96	1	1
SMH Kirmani (INDIA)	1976-1986	63	1598	27.55	1	6
RG Nadkarni (INDIA)	1959-1968	28	781	26.93	0	4
KS More (INDIA)	1986-1993	47	1180	26.81	0	7
IK Pathan (INDIA)	2003-2008	24	670	26.8	1	3
Moin Khan (PAK)	1990-2004	31	694	23.93	1	4
S Madan Lal (INDIA)	1974-1986	30	669	22.3	0	4
Wasim Akram (PAK)	1985-2002	87	2160	22.26	2	6
KD Ghavri (INDIA)	1974-1981	38	900	21.95	0	2
Intikhab Alam (PAK)	1959-1977	31	791	21.37	0	5

This list has pretty even distribution.

However thing changed drastically in last few years.

Similar table as above but last 3 years data. (min runs 200)

Player	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50
J Yadav (INDIA)	2016-2016	3	221	104	73.66	1	1
RA Jadeja (INDIA)	2014-2016	14	500	90	31.25	0	2
B Kumar (INDIA)	2014-2016	10	334	63*	23.85	0	3
R Ashwin (INDIA)	2014-2016	15	408	58	22.66	0	3
A Mishra (INDIA)	2015-2016	8	256	59	21.33	0	2
Mohammed Shami (INDIA)	2014-2016	18	215	51*	16.53	0	1
Yasir Shah (PAK)	2014-2016	20	226	30	10.76	0	0

The above list is filed Indian batsman.

Next table shows all teams records since Jan 2014

Team	Players	Mat	Inns	Runs	Ave	SR
Australia	27	65	355	4766	18.61	51.81
South Africa	26	48	237	3201	18.29	48.76
England	27	75	427	5820	18.13	53.69
New Zealand	21	55	330	4404	17.75	60.21
India	26	59	335	4524	17.74	53.88
West Indies	26	52	324	4096	16.18	53.45
Bangladesh	25	27	169	1874	14.75	52.49
Sri Lanka	25	55	349	3413	12.87	49.29
Zimbabwe	23	18	138	1350	12.27	39.55
Pakistan	22	50	272	2479	12.09	46.6

Pakistan tail contribtion is even less Zimbabwe. It's a big shock.

Here is player performnce for Pakistan in same time frame. (min 100 runs)

Player	Span	Mat	Runs	Ave	SR	50
Adnan Akmal	2011-2012	4	125	62.5	40.84	0
Sarfraz Ahmed	2014-2016	5	183	45.75	79.22	1
Bilawal Bhatti	2013-2014	2	70	35	45.75	0
Tanvir Ahmed	2011-2013	4	140	35	61.94	1
Mohammad Nawaz (3)	2016-2016	1	25	25	35.21	0
Sohail Khan	2011-2016	7	177	19.66	71.95	0
Zulfiqar Babar	2013-2016	15	144	16	69.56	1
Mohammad Amir	2016-2016	8	150	12.5	54.34	0
Abdur Rehman	2011-2014	18	264	11.47	39.75	1
Saeed Ajmal	2011-2014	25	317	11.32	39.82	0
Yasir Shah	2014-2016	20	226	10.76	47.18	0
Rahat Ali	2013-2016	19	127	9.07	38.48	0
Mohammad Sami	2012-2012	1	9	9	52.94	0
Mohammad Talha	2014-2014	3	34	8.5	47.22	0
Wahab Riaz	2011-2016	18	187	8.13	41.37	0
Junaid Khan	2011-2015	22	122	7.17	39.86	0
Umar Gul	2011-2013	15	123	6.83	39.04	0
Mohammad Irfan	2013-2013	4	28	5.6	32.18	0
Ehsan Adil	2013-2015	3	21	5.25	51.21	0
Imran Khan	2014-2016	8	6	1.5	28.57	0
Aizaz Cheema	2011-2012	7	1	-	4.34	0
Asad Shafiq	2012-2012	1	-	-	-	-

 

[Abdullah719]

Abysmal stats for Pakistan's tail. Worse than Zimbabwe since 2011, some achievement. Wahab, Rahat, Imran and previously Gul, Junaid and Irfan have all been like certified #11s. Even Yasir who has a bit of ability tends to get dismissed too cheaply way too often.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Pakistan's entire batting side would have abysmal stats if you want to make a comparison.

Moaning over the bowlers inability to stick around or actually contribution won't cut nobody no slack.

 

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan's entire batting side would have abysmal stats if you want to make a comparison.

Moaning over the bowlers inability to stick around or actually contribution won't cut nobody no slack.

Really?

Same period, top 7 stats:

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Ok I wasn't being too lenient in that aspect. ��

 

[Abdullah719]

To add to OP (stats from Jan 2011):

Team	#1-7 bat avg.	#8-11 bat avg.	Difference
Pakistan	42.09	12.09	30
Sri Lanka	37.48	12.87	24.61
Australia	40.77	18.61	22.16
South Africa	40.23	18.29	21.94
Bangladesh	36.45	14.75	21.7
India	38.54	17.74	20.8
England	38.76	18.13	20.63
New Zealand	35.86	17.75	18.11
Zimbabwe	28.73	12.27	16.46
West Indies	32.27	16.18	16.09

 

[Justcrazy]

I do not understand why Pakistan Tail is so poor , and nothing has been done so far.

 

[Saj]

These days once Pakistan are 6 down then start getting ready for the innings to end.

From time to time Sarfraz will knock a few runs with the tail and Sohail Khan hit a few runs in NZ, but most of the time it's shambolic batting.

Most of the recent tailenders can barely hold a bat.

 

[The_Odd_One]

On paper it is actually strong. Wahab, Aamir, Sohail, and Yasir can all bat. The problem is that in reality, they don't.

 

[Saj]

Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain, Shoaib Akhtar even Mushy could hang around and make some vital runs.

Unlike the current crop of rabbits we have.